you talk much too-too!
The founding fathjers of which nation were libertarian? Surely you not referring to the founding fathers of the US of A!
Say it ain't so.
First of all, if you claim to be libertarian know what that means and what it means in historical and political context!
Which founding father was about to allow prostitution and public obscenity.
certainly they all held the belief that there should be limited interference by governmnet!
But to call them libertarian is careless. Do you feel that the founding fathjers believed that freedom of speech applied to anything but speech?
If you said that the founding fathers would find exception with the way government intrudes on the lives of private citizens then you would be correct.
libertarians that allowed slavery?
Libertarians like to quote Thomas jefferson and claim he was libertarian, he had nothing in common with libertarianism. The same holds true if he were to be compared to a democrat or conservative.
To equate libertarianism with the classical liberalism that influenced our Founding Fathers is a great philosophical error.
take your minarchist views somewhere else.
Here we go again...lol
Yes, the founding fathers were Libertarian...or known back then as Classical Liberals.
Yes, there was slavery. Yes, Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. However, this new young 3rd world nation were fighting a war for Independence from England. Before the Declaration of Independence was signed, there was at first a stalemate between the northern states and the southern states concerning slavery. Most states were against it, but they were forced to compromise just to have an agreement among all on basically declaring war on the most powerful and wealthest nation at the time...England. The issue of slavery was put asisde to be tackled at another time.
Finally, after many years going back and forth on the issue, it was tackled successfully by a Libertarian minded anti-slavery group who formed a political 3rd party in 1854 specifically to fight slavery...the Republican Party.
Bredz, i could go on and on, but i have a fete and a lil' Jamaican ting to hit tonight. Ah leaving jus' now...wish me luck...lol.
good luck, but you still talking too-too.
Libertarianism is a new construct, there is nothing classical about it. according to Benjamin Tucker (i took a whole lot of classes in both History and political science...a whole lot!) the classically liberal constitution granted Congress the explicit ability to grant patents and lay tariffs, two of the four cornerstones of privilege and statism!!
just how is that Libertarian?
Only you know the answer to that!
Well, bredz, it looks like u missed or slept through a few classes, or u should get your tuition re-imbursed, because yuh talking real chipidness now...lol.
What were your grades in those classes??? U need to go back to dem professors and get yuh money back...steuppes.
Look up "Classical Liberal". Simple...Look it up.
Yes, to nit-pick, the word "Libertarian" is fairly new...not the idea. Yes, the foinding fathers were libertarina in the policy they adopted for the US...but they themselves didn't fully realize the implications of the Dec of Independence & the Constitution (Pursuit of Happiness etc). It's kinda' like Albert Einstein and the Therory of Relativity. As intelligent and a genius as he was, he, really didn't see all that his theory implied. Many physicists years later devolped furthered his work, using his theory. The same olds true for the founding fathers ogf the US...they didn't fully really the impact of the docs they were signing. But it does not change the fact that the docs is what we call today, by definition, "Libertarian".
Anyhows, u like big government in yuh arse...I don't.
Did government study and take your classes for u? did governement make u a fighter...give u the will to succeed?
Does government...the nanny state, wake u up every morning and makes u breakfast before u go out and conquer your piece of the world in your career?
Did government make you the resourceful & intelligent person that u are?
If u answer yes to any questions, well, all the best to u and the nanny state.
Me...I beg to differ. I don't need a nanny state...sorry.
