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« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2008, 07:39:14 AM »
Ok..I over de euphoria of last night...kinda ;D

It was a good win, a vital win. In my opinion, T&T is proving to be one of the mentally toughest sides in the region. Those were two back to back clutch performances when we needed them most. It's no surprise that it required a solid base of players who went through the fire of the last Hex, and the Bahrain playoff. Of course, we still have to finish the job. It is by no means over. One more game left.

Assuming we make the Hex...this side needs some SERIOUS work papa. We played a very very poor USA B team and I believe that if the linesman didn't botch that offside call in the 2nd half against Altidore, you talking a very different result. We were also fortunate to get a penalty out of nothing because of Altidor's inexperience. Altidor (yeah..him again) also missed a sitter of a header basically on the goal line. And Latas 'goal'. Well...he actually missed. good fortune the keeper big head got in the way  ;D We probably won't be so lucky in the Hex. But you also make your own luck and we deserved the win over the 90 minutes of play, if that concept even means anything in football.

Sadly we still play a slow, overly laborious style of football, with little change of pace when we need quick transition from midfield to defense. We need to be able to move the ball more quickly. if every man on T&T squad played with the heart and intensity of Birchall and Carlos, we'd be a powerhouse in Concacaf. Dat is why lesser or equally talented sides like Jamaica does beat we. We like to call them wild..but is 11 Birchall's they coming at us with. I mean dat alone doh win matches..but we need to improve that. Plus, the core of this team to play more together to build some chemistry. chemistry and confidence moves mountains in sport.

lastly..tactically, we not going to see much improvement in defense imo. Talles is the only man in that back 4 i think MUST start. I think we need a 2nd ball harrier to help Brichall. T&T needs a solid 5 man midfield, or we will struggle (imo). Big teams like Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy etc...play with 2 hustlers in the middle and a deep lying playmaker. Yorke is  a lock as the deep lying playmaker and Birchie is our Gattusso/Mascherano/Gliberto Silva. I think we also need a complimentary defensive midfielder like a De Rossi/Cambiasso/Josue.

latas didn't look his regular self. didn't see the Guate game, but maybe lacking match practice. maybe just age. don't see him as a starter against tougher harder running teams.

Keon Daniel has tons of skill and potential, but he needs to open up and play with speed now and then..aka Carlos Edwards. We marvel at his talent, but he kills our attack almost every time he gets the ball because he allows the opponent to regroup fuss he slow on the ball. lot to be said about all that skill and ability to maintain possession tho. If he could play a little quicker at times, he would be T&T's next bonafide star. Then again..I hear he playing out of position.

Carlos..hope that was not a one-off. That was the Carlos of old. Confident, fast, determined and taking on his man with no shortage of success. The crossing is till toots (like I say..carlos of old)..but the assist on the first goal was perfection.

Yorke, Birchie, Carlos, Keon Daniel, Talles, Ince must start. De rest of the starting lineup need a little rejiggering, if last night's performance is anything to go by.

Yeah..I smiling at work. Det think I loss meh mind over here. Is not even de Hex and I feel like we jess win something huge. Imagine if we had never disband this side.

GO T&TT!!!!

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Re: Warriors make history with 2-1 win over USA.
« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2008, 07:42:03 AM »
Congratulations, Trinis! Your team played well last night. The midfield looked especially solid, and all the players were hungry and determined. In particular, the old-timer duo of Yorke and Latapy shined. I think that quite a few of our youngsters were a bit overwhelmed by the Trini determination and spirit, and it showed.

That being said, you guys clearly received two huge gifts with those botched offside calls. Especially on the second, as Altidore would have been 1on1 with your keeper right in the middle of the box. Count yourselves lucky for that.

Anyway, good luck in your final game. I would much rather see you guys in the Hex than those dirty, diving Guats. You deserve it more.

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« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2008, 07:42:50 AM »
Plenty plenty wuk but we does wuk hard when we eh postin here so dem have 2 wuk hard 2 get 2 SA
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Re: Warriors make history with 2-1 win over USA.
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2008, 07:44:53 AM »
Ok..I over de euphoria of last night...kinda ;D

It was a good win, a vital win. In my opinion, T&T is proving to be one of the mentally toughest sides in the region. Those were two back to back clutch performances when we needed them most. It's no surprise that it required a solid base of players who went through the fire of the last Hex, and the Bahrain playoff. Of course, we still have to finish the job. It is by no means over. One more game left.

Assuming we make the Hex...this side needs some SERIOUS work papa. We played a very very poor USA B team and I believe that if the linesman didn't botch that offside call in the 2nd half against Altidore, you talking a very different result. We were also fortunate to get a penalty out of nothing because of Altidor's inexperience. Altidor (yeah..him again) also missed a sitter of a header basically on the goal line. And Latas 'goal'. Well...he actually missed. good fortune the keeper big head got in the way  ;D We probably won't be so lucky in the Hex. But you also make your own luck and we deserved the win over the 90 minutes of play, if that concept even means anything in football.

Sadly we still play a slow, overly laborious style of football, with little change of pace when we need quick transition from midfield to defense. We need to be able to move the ball more quickly. if every man on T&T squad played with the heart and intensity of Birchall and Carlos, we'd be a powerhouse in Concacaf. Dat is why lesser or equally talented sides like Jamaica does beat we. We like to call them wild..but is 11 Birchall's they coming at us with. I mean dat alone doh win matches..but we need to improve that. Plus, the core of this team to play more together to build some chemistry. chemistry and confidence moves mountains in sport.

lastly..tactically, we not going to see much improvement in defense imo. Talles is the only man in that back 4 i think MUST start. I think we need a 2nd ball harrier to help Brichall. T&T needs a solid 5 man midfield, or we will struggle (imo). Big teams like Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy etc...play with 2 hustlers in the middle and a deep lying playmaker. Yorke is  a lock as the deep lying playmaker and Birchie is our Gattusso/Mascherano/Gliberto Silva. I think we also need a complimentary defensive midfielder like a De Rossi/Cambiasso/Josue.

latas didn't look his regular self. didn't see the Guate game, but maybe lacking match practice. maybe just age. don't see him as a starter against tougher harder running teams.

Keon Daniel has tons of skill and potential, but he needs to open up and play with speed now and then..aka Carlos Edwards. We marvel at his talent, but he kills our attack almost every time he gets the ball because he allows the opponent to regroup fuss he slow on the ball. lot to be said about all that skill and ability to maintain possession tho. If he could play a little quicker at times, he would be T&T's next bonafide star. Then again..I hear he playing out of position.

Carlos..hope that was not a one-off. That was the Carlos of old. Confident, fast, determined and taking on his man with no shortage of success. The crossing is till toots (like I say..carlos of old)..but the assist on the first goal was perfection.

Yorke, Birchie, Carlos, Keon Daniel, Talles, Ince must start. De rest of the starting lineup need a little rejiggering, if last night's performance is anything to go by.

Yeah..I smiling at work. Det think I loss meh mind over here. Is not even de Hex and I feel like we jess win something huge. Imagine if we had never disband this side.

GO T&TT!!!!

Spot on Filho, I particularly want to endorse your pt about our lack of intensity at times w/the exception of Chris and Carlos....based on the game vs Guatemala, Wolfe showed he can be that 2nd hustler in midfield, we'll see how everything pans out....
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Re: Warriors make history with 2-1 win over USA.
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2008, 07:46:14 AM »
Yeah..I smiling at work. Det think I loss meh mind over here. Is not even de Hex and I feel like we jess win something huge. Imagine if we had never disband this side.
GO T&TT!!!!

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« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2008, 07:48:28 AM »
Leh we not talk bout side dat get disband hapy thoughts happy thoughts
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« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2008, 07:49:48 AM »
Congratulations, Trinis! Your team played well last night. The midfield looked especially solid, and all the players were hungry and determined. In particular, the old-timer duo of Yorke and Latapy shined. I think that quite a few of our youngsters were a bit overwhelmed by the Trini determination and spirit, and it showed.

That being said, you guys clearly received two huge gifts with those botched offside calls. Especially on the second, as Altidore would have been 1on1 with your keeper right in the middle of the box. Count yourselves lucky for that.

Anyway, good luck in your final game. I would much rather see you guys in the Hex than those dirty, diving Guats. You deserve it more.

Cheers!  :beermug:

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Re: Warriors make history with 2-1 win over USA.
« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2008, 08:01:26 AM »
Good game WARRIORS, you guys deserve that victory. BIRCHALL was Man of the Match for me, i really cant see him being left off this team again nah, he's a boss.....i must admit, before Latas score i was cussin for them to take him off, even after he scored i still felt the same way. But congrats to him and the team all the same.
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« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2008, 08:10:23 AM »
Now scotland is a good player and has done well for his club, however some players are better for their club than their country, scottie has a stern john finish, they are similar players.

From watching the game I believe scottie needs to come off the bench because he was not effective, I saw mistrapping and throwing away chances, when he had a chance to dribble into the box he passed. Hes a poacher in every sense of the word.

The coaching staff should start roberts and sub on glen, john doesn't look 100% and should not have been subbed in. It is obvious when jones returns he will start, but the 2nd and 3rd option should be roberts and glen. They are the opposite of john and scottie and we need that variation upfront.

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Re: Scotland shouldn't start ahead of Roberts and Glen
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2008, 08:15:42 AM »
I find Scotland should start on the left wing, his speed strength is needed on that left.

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Re: Scotland shouldn't start ahead of Roberts and Glen
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2008, 08:16:01 AM »
Now scotland is a good player and has done well for his club, however some players are better for their club than their country, scottie has a stern john finish, they are similar players.

From watching the game I believe scottie needs to come off the bench because he was not effective, I saw mistrapping and throwing away chances, when he had a chance to dribble into the box he passed. Hes a poacher in every sense of the word.

The coaching staff should start roberts and sub on glen, john doesn't look 100% and should not have been subbed in. It is obvious when jones returns he will start, but the 2nd and 3rd option should be roberts and glen. They are the opposite of john and scottie and we need that variation upfront.

Well he need to loose fat or whatever it is have him slow so. Well doh worry, we have KJ coming back. He do he best, but they should let Roberts get some burn.
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Re: Scotland shouldn't start ahead of Roberts and Glen
« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2008, 08:16:18 AM »
Fellas it was reported that Glen had an injury as did Stern.

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Re: Scotland shouldn't start ahead of Roberts and Glen
« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2008, 08:17:13 AM »
R u serious ???

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Re: Scotland shouldn't start ahead of Roberts and Glen
« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2008, 08:18:21 AM »
I find Scotland should start on the left wing, his speed strength is needed on that left.

Scotty in front ah who on the left wing, Keon or Hyland? He ent ready to go over deh nah Sky. :-\
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« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2008, 08:19:55 AM »
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Re: Scotland shouldn't start ahead of Roberts and Glen
« Reply #75 on: October 16, 2008, 08:31:34 AM »
I find Scotland should start on the left wing, his speed strength is needed on that left.

Scotty in front ah who on the left wing, Keon or Hyland? He ent ready to go over deh nah Sky. :-\

I had a few friends with me watching the match in its entirety, scottie doesnt have the speed of a glen or roberts, on one occassion he couldn't beat the defender to the ball in oppositions 1st third, if it was glen, glen would have won the race, if glen is injured ok, but roberts is much better a player and he comes back in the mid to assist on defense and build up, I think the coaching staff needs to give scottie a rest, he is a good player for his club but he is failing for his country. Latas gave him some gifts for instance and he throw away and didn't do anything with them.

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« Reply #76 on: October 16, 2008, 09:14:11 AM »
lastly..tactically, we not going to see much improvement in defense imo. Talles is the only man in that back 4 i think MUST start. I think we need a 2nd ball harrier to help Brichall. T&T needs a solid 5 man midfield, or we will struggle (imo). Big teams like Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy etc...play with 2 hustlers in the middle and a deep lying playmaker. Yorke is  a lock as the deep lying playmaker and Birchie is our Gattusso/Mascherano/Gliberto Silva. I think we also need a complimentary defensive midfielder like a De Rossi/Cambiasso/Josue.

Whitely?

Yorke, Birchie, Carlos, Keon Daniel, Talles, Ince must start. De rest of the starting lineup need a little rejiggering, if last night's performance is anything to go by.

Add Cyd, Sancho and Avery to the defense, Whitely to the middle, KJ as the striker and we good to go!

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« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2008, 09:14:16 AM »
To play with Zess we have to pick players with zess.

Picking a squad and telling them to run hard will never work.

For example Telesford have zess and yorke have none. but Teslesford cannot maintain possesion so we in a catch 22

In the end our players choices are limited so if we need to play slow we need to play slow.

Speed of Play is not easily increased.
The tendancy of our players is the slow build up.

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Any Highlights of T&T vs USA?
« Reply #78 on: October 16, 2008, 09:31:58 AM »
Any Highlights of T&T vs USA?

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« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2008, 09:40:20 AM »
Congratulations, Trinis! Your team played well last night. The midfield looked especially solid, and all the players were hungry and determined. In particular, the old-timer duo of Yorke and Latapy shined. I think that quite a few of our youngsters were a bit overwhelmed by the Trini determination and spirit, and it showed.

That being said, you guys clearly received two huge gifts with those botched offside calls. Especially on the second, as Altidore would have been 1on1 with your keeper right in the middle of the box. Count yourselves lucky for that.

Anyway, good luck in your final game. I would much rather see you guys in the Hex than those dirty, diving Guats. You deserve it more.

Cheers!  :beermug:


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GREAT game
It is amazing that Latas and Dwight scored for us

Well done USA... :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
maybe we should meet with both of our full squads
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« Reply #82 on: October 16, 2008, 09:47:35 AM »
lastly..tactically, we not going to see much improvement in defense imo. Talles is the only man in that back 4 i think MUST start. I think we need a 2nd ball harrier to help Brichall. T&T needs a solid 5 man midfield, or we will struggle (imo). Big teams like Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy etc...play with 2 hustlers in the middle and a deep lying playmaker. Yorke is  a lock as the deep lying playmaker and Birchie is our Gattusso/Mascherano/Gliberto Silva. I think we also need a complimentary defensive midfielder like a De Rossi/Cambiasso/Josue.

Whitely?

Yorke, Birchie, Carlos, Keon Daniel, Talles, Ince must start. De rest of the starting lineup need a little rejiggering, if last night's performance is anything to go by.

Add Cyd, Sancho and Avery to the defense, Whitely to the middle, KJ as the striker and we good to go!

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Dat looking like a nice side on the road...
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« Reply #83 on: October 16, 2008, 09:47:55 AM »
This was a good win for T&T.   If we were able to go with this team when we played USA in the first round I guarantee the score would not have been 3-0 in the usa's favor.  Although usa tried out a lot of their younger players this was still a very competitive game.  This time around we had Birchall and Yorke in the midfield and we had Lawrence to keep the defence in order.  Birchall and Yorke really hustled to win balls and distribute. Carlos Edwards and Keon Daniel also put in a good shift.  Our midfield Kept the USA tied down with tight marking, physicall play and consistent strong tackles.  This was the main thing that was different from the last time we played USA.  The last time we did not have the required personnel and our midfielders were timid and gave the USA a lot of time and space to play and punish us.  I think the presence of Yorke and Birchall for this game really helped our midfield and it inspired the other guys to step their game up and play like warriors.    :beermug:

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« Reply #84 on: October 16, 2008, 09:51:37 AM »
ah hungry for highlights.  I didnt tape the game because im superstitious, everytime i tape a game my team lose.  And i notice espn was using a local truck feed to the us because the game wasnt coming through on HD.  One day it will have HD broadcasting in TnT, its less expensive than how it was before.

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Re: Any Highlights of T&T vs USA?
« Reply #85 on: October 16, 2008, 09:54:31 AM »
Match video anyone ?

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Re: Any Highlights of T&T vs USA?
« Reply #86 on: October 16, 2008, 09:55:27 AM »
Thanks for the highlights, but does anyone know where (if at all) I can get the full game?

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« Reply #87 on: October 16, 2008, 09:59:51 AM »
lastly..tactically, we not going to see much improvement in defense imo. Talles is the only man in that back 4 i think MUST start. I think we need a 2nd ball harrier to help Brichall. T&T needs a solid 5 man midfield, or we will struggle (imo). Big teams like Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy etc...play with 2 hustlers in the middle and a deep lying playmaker. Yorke is  a lock as the deep lying playmaker and Birchie is our Gattusso/Mascherano/Gliberto Silva. I think we also need a complimentary defensive midfielder like a De Rossi/Cambiasso/Josue.

Whitely?

Yorke, Birchie, Carlos, Keon Daniel, Talles, Ince must start. De rest of the starting lineup need a little rejiggering, if last night's performance is anything to go by.

Add Cyd, Sancho and Avery to the defense, Whitely to the middle, KJ as the striker and we good to go!

I liking KJ up top and Whitley in the middle once they return to form from long term injuries. Avery at left back too. Cyah argue against Cyd..but I eh know about Sancho. How he looking these days?

To play with Zess we have to pick players with zess.

Picking a squad and telling them to run hard will never work.

For example Telesford have zess and yorke have none. but Teslesford cannot maintain possesion so we in a catch 22

In the end our players choices are limited so if we need to play slow we need to play slow.

Speed of Play is not easily increased.
The tendancy of our players is the slow build up.

eh? you don't have to have fast players to play with more urgency. and noone saying to always play with speed. dat is sensless. but at times, you have to change up the rythm of play. T&T play is generally too predictable and one-paced.

no team will ever achieve anything without having some element of zess. we need more. it isn't the only ingredient, we need..but we need more.

and yeah..you can take lethargic players and make them quicker. faster better thought process, smarter better timed runs off the ball, never say die attitude...they can be taught to some extent.
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« Reply #88 on: October 16, 2008, 10:00:43 AM »
I think the other person that can possibly compliment Birchall is Autis Whiley...what's the deal with him...nobody mentions him anymore..he played pretty well in the first few qualifiers....is he still injured....??
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« Reply #89 on: October 16, 2008, 10:03:55 AM »
To play with Zess we have to pick players with zess.

Picking a squad and telling them to run hard will never work.

For example Telesford have zess and yorke have none. but Teslesford cannot maintain possesion so we in a catch 22

In the end our players choices are limited so if we need to play slow we need to play slow.

Speed of Play is not easily increased.
The tendancy of our players is the slow build up.
KND2, You really think Yorke have no zess?  I think you are confused.  After watching Yorke for all these years I think he has some zess. He is just older and maybe not as energetic as before.  I think you might be confusing ZESS and WILDNESS.  I think that Telesford has plenty of ZESS but he is fairly wild and uncontrolled at times. This means he is not using his zess efficiently.  Yorke has some zess too, but he is really composed and makes things look so easy when he hustles to win a ball or distribute a ball.  Birchall has plenty plenty Zess, and he also has enough control and composure to be very effective.   Yorke has zess, he just not wild and overly energetic.
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