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« Reply #240 on: February 16, 2009, 07:50:48 AM »


 Wim was football trash , get over him.

.....and Maturana is the corbeaux that keep circling the trash....

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« Reply #241 on: February 16, 2009, 08:01:48 AM »
This is madness. What is Jack Warner waiting for to get rid of El cobo, until we loose the next game.


he used shit tactics... why did he bring on glen, when we were up a goal?

eh, why not bring on a defensive player to run at the heels of those salvadorians eh?

why the f**k was dennis lawrence blockin ince in the post, so he could try to toss his f**kin head at a shot?

how f**king stupid is that!?


what team employs that tactic and does it ever work!?



why was ince on that last play not marking the open side of the goal when dennis lawrence was supposed to be on it, you're suppose to be on that open side of the goal even if dennis lawrence wasnt on it... basic shit that doesnt happen to any team but ours, or atleast any successful team, the man is a f**king jackass.

i doh care what yuh say the careless and lack of ability to motivate his players from that game is enough evidence, yes he geh columbia into the wc great f**kin job, he also did it while they had a particular grap of very talented players.


 and i garantee you, if we do get into this WC which im still quite hopeful for, it will again be because he has inherited a good group of footballers.

i've given the man time and ive been mostly quite, but this is shit.



Seeing that the mark buss is Latapy who was in charge for the game vs El Salvador, what now?



Latas making this statement, I guess he was just talking huh “He (Maturana) is the head coach and the only philosophy and opinion that counts is his. We have to try and do what he’s teaching us and is asking of us.”

We can only assume of what we hearing are true and try to make sense out of “rumors” we hearing from de bad grape vines hanging around here, :heehee: of who really running things with the team. This further tells me, if there is any truth to Latas running the ship in El Salvador, is the real coach is ah bam bam. If he allowing the assistant to fully take charge while he’s present sitting on de bench…like he mouth was duck tape. If I’m running an organization and the President sitting back and allowing the vice President to make dumb decisions to cause the Company to go bankrupt…then tell me who is really the one who stupid and need to be fired?
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« Reply #242 on: February 16, 2009, 08:11:52 AM »
This is madness. What is Jack Warner waiting for to get rid of El cobo, until we loose the next game.


he used shit tactics... why did he bring on glen, when we were up a goal?

eh, why not bring on a defensive player to run at the heels of those salvadorians eh?

why the f**k was dennis lawrence blockin ince in the post, so he could try to toss his f**kin head at a shot?

how f**king stupid is that!?


what team employs that tactic and does it ever work!?



why was ince on that last play not marking the open side of the goal when dennis lawrence was supposed to be on it, you're suppose to be on that open side of the goal even if dennis lawrence wasnt on it... basic shit that doesnt happen to any team but ours, or atleast any successful team, the man is a f**king jackass.

i doh care what yuh say the careless and lack of ability to motivate his players from that game is enough evidence, yes he geh columbia into the wc great f**kin job, he also did it while they had a particular grap of very talented players.


 and i garantee you, if we do get into this WC which im still quite hopeful for, it will again be because he has inherited a good group of footballers.

i've given the man time and ive been mostly quite, but this is shit.



Seeing that the mark buss is Latapy who was in charge for the game vs El Salvador, what now?



Latas making this statement, I guess he was just talking huh “He (Maturana) is the head coach and the only philosophy and opinion that counts is his. We have to try and do what he’s teaching us and is asking of us.”

We can only assume of what we hearing are true and try to make sense out of “rumors” we hearing from de bad grape vines hanging around here, :heehee: of who really running things with the team. This further tells me, if there is any truth to Latas running the ship in El Salvador, is the real coach is ah bam bam. If he allowing the assistant to fully take charge while he’s present sitting on de bench…like he mouth was duck tape. If I’m running an organization and the President sitting back and allowing the vice President to make dumb decisions …to cause the Company to go bankruptthen tell me who is really the one who stupid and need to be fired?

well dat is how maturana gt there to begin with camps sit back and waner hire who he want
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« Reply #243 on: February 16, 2009, 08:17:05 AM »
Tings easier 4 Mats b4 it was D snr chipmunk who was runnin tings so nuff ah he bmobile minutes ue up havin 2 call and text 4 d line up changes etc. Now Latas rite dey so he savin he minutes 2 call wifey back home 2 say is d easiest piece a change I ever make.
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« Reply #244 on: February 16, 2009, 10:16:03 AM »
Allyuh notice how this thread is becoming one of the longer ones on this forum?!!

Wonder if the powers that be will take any notice before its too late?! :notlistening:
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« Reply #245 on: February 16, 2009, 10:48:58 AM »
Allyuh notice how this thread is becoming one of the longer ones on this forum?!!

Wonder if the powers that be will take any notice before its too late?! :notlistening:

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« Reply #246 on: February 16, 2009, 11:35:43 AM »
Bottom line........accountability for  results and performance  lies squarely on the player. The coach does that play the game, the fitness of the player is  the direct responsibility of a true PROFESSIONAL player.

Despite the system employed by a  a coach, despite the  substitutions, and despite anything out of the player's control, the one constant  variable is the player's performance and decision making ability on that field. If the players are not up to that task, then "the blame dear Brutus lies not in the starts but within.....(  Shakespeare's Julius Caesar).

Bottom line... our players have to take a degree of responsibility for results; look in the mirror and answer to the image as to if they felt they were honest in bringing their A game to the field on any given day.

I am not here to honour the coach nor to praise him but I do think that the evil that men do live after them the good is often interred with their bones...

We need to rise up when all hope appears to be lost. In Viktor's Frankl's book " Man's Search for Meaning" , he states, " Even the helpless victim of a hopeless situation, facing a fate he cannot change, may rise above himself, may grow beyond himself , and by so doing change himself. He may turn a personal tragedy into a triumph."

So as we turn our attention to hypothetical reasons for defeat, we ought to look at the current reality and take lessons so as to not perpetuate or attribute our defeats unto others. In setback like these all men have to look into that mirror and answer questions as to their role in the outcome!!!!
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« Reply #247 on: February 16, 2009, 03:21:58 PM »
Bottom line........accountability for  results and performance  lies squarely on the player. The coach does that play the game, the fitness of the player is  the direct responsibility of a true PROFESSIONAL player.

Despite the system employed by a  a coach, despite the  substitutions, and despite anything out of the player's control, the one constant  variable is the player's performance and decision making ability on that field. If the players are not up to that task, then "the blame dear Brutus lies not in the starts but within.....(  Shakespeare's Julius Caesar).

Bottom line... our players have to take a degree of responsibility for results; look in the mirror and answer to the image as to if they felt they were honest in bringing their A game to the field on any given day.

I am not here to honour the coach nor to praise him but I do think that the evil that men do live after them the good is often interred with their bones...

We need to rise up when all hope appears to be lost. In Viktor's Frankl's book " Man's Search for Meaning" , he states, " Even the helpless victim of a hopeless situation, facing a fate he cannot change, may rise above himself, may grow beyond himself , and by so doing change himself. He may turn a personal tragedy into a triumph."

So as we turn our attention to hypothetical reasons for defeat, we ought to look at the current reality and take lessons so as to not perpetuate or attribute our defeats unto others. In setback like these all men have to look into that mirror and answer questions as to their role in the outcome!!!!

AB, I agree with a lot of what you said, but in essence I believe a lot of it falls on the coach as well.  He has to examine himself and realize whether he is also a true professional...just as his players must show professionalism themselves.  He plays the role of mentor and tutor to his charges and if he does not impart his knowledge and experience in the best way possible, then he is just as culpable.  Note I didn't say to the best of his ability...but the best way possible.  When a student of the game looking to the senior man to aid in his development and that senior lacks the competence to aid in the development then he has to shoulder some responsibility too.  Children live what they learn.
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« Reply #248 on: February 16, 2009, 04:38:11 PM »
Bottom line........accountability for  results and performance  lies squarely on the player. The coach does that play the game, the fitness of the player is  the direct responsibility of a true PROFESSIONAL player.

Despite the system employed by a  a coach, despite the  substitutions, and despite anything out of the player's control, the one constant  variable is the player's performance and decision making ability on that field. If the players are not up to that task, then "the blame dear Brutus lies not in the starts but within.....(  Shakespeare's Julius Caesar).

Bottom line... our players have to take a degree of responsibility for results; look in the mirror and answer to the image as to if they felt they were honest in bringing their A game to the field on any given day.

I am not here to honour the coach nor to praise him but I do think that the evil that men do live after them the good is often interred with their bones...

We need to rise up when all hope appears to be lost. In Viktor's Frankl's book " Man's Search for Meaning" , he states, " Even the helpless victim of a hopeless situation, facing a fate he cannot change, may rise above himself, may grow beyond himself , and by so doing change himself. He may turn a personal tragedy into a triumph."

So as we turn our attention to hypothetical reasons for defeat, we ought to look at the current reality and take lessons so as to not perpetuate or attribute our defeats unto others. In setback like these all men have to look into that mirror and answer questions as to their role in the outcome!!!!

AB, I agree with a lot of what you said, but in essence I believe a lot of it falls on the coach as well.  He has to examine himself and realize whether he is also a true professional...just as his players must show professionalism themselves.  He plays the role of mentor and tutor to his charges and if he does not impart his knowledge and experience in the best way possible, then he is just as culpable.  Note I didn't say to the best of his ability...but the best way possible.  When a student of the game looking to the senior man to aid in his development and that senior lacks the competence to aid in the development then he has to shoulder some responsibility too.  Children live what they learn.
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Yes the coach is there for a reason and given the circumstances, the players look up to the coach for direction. That is why all have to look  in that mirror and answer some critical questions prior to the next game.



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« Reply #249 on: February 18, 2009, 06:42:22 PM »
That man is still the coach? i thought any day now i would log on to the site and see where they sack this mad fella! come on TTFF, what yuh waiting for, a loss against the honduras??     GET RID!!!
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« Reply #250 on: February 18, 2009, 06:56:54 PM »
Can anybody tell me why he was chosen in the first place? I jus wonderin.

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« Reply #251 on: February 18, 2009, 07:45:19 PM »
Can anybody tell me why he was chosen in the first place? I jus wonderin.

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« Reply #252 on: February 18, 2009, 08:27:12 PM »
Can anybody tell me why he was chosen in the first place? I jus wonderin.
He and Jack bounce up in Zurich ,one evening and over a few cocktails ...well the rest is history .

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« Reply #253 on: February 19, 2009, 12:31:29 AM »
Can anybody tell me why he was chosen in the first place? I jus wonderin.
He and Jack bounce up in Zurich ,one evening and over a few cocktails ...well the rest is history .

I guess a few cocktails can mek yuh understand anybody, unless Jack already speak espanol

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« Reply #254 on: February 19, 2009, 10:47:34 AM »
Can anybody tell me why he was chosen in the first place? I jus wonderin.
He and Jack bounce up in Zurich ,one evening and over a few cocktails ...well the rest is history .

Nah it had to be more than that to get Jack to hire he; That need to get lock up for summiting false credentials to TTFF.
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« Reply #255 on: February 19, 2009, 08:56:37 PM »
Can anybody tell me why he was chosen in the first place? I jus wonderin.

He was not Dutch.
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« Reply #256 on: March 28, 2009, 07:09:36 PM »
is time he have to go  >:( the man clueless on team selection
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« Reply #257 on: March 28, 2009, 08:26:02 PM »
what effin coach worth his effin salt takes of the TWO hardest working players?

the players he put on i have no problem with but scotty subbed over john?? no effin way

john missed 2-3 sitters

maturana is a effin goat

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« Reply #258 on: March 28, 2009, 08:27:17 PM »
what effin coach worth his effin salt takes of the TWO hardest working players?

the players he put on i have no problem with but scotty subbed over john?? no effin way

john missed 2-3 sitters

maturana is a effin goat



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« Reply #259 on: March 28, 2009, 08:28:07 PM »
a bottle of piss connected to a battery can run the team better

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« Reply #260 on: March 28, 2009, 08:32:43 PM »
what effin coach worth his effin salt takes of the TWO hardest working players?

the players he put on i have no problem with but scotty subbed over john?? no effin way

john missed 2-3 sitters

maturana is a effin goat
I don't agree totally. Stern should have stayed on with Scotty and Jones......ah mean we was trying to win.

Also absolutely no reason to take of Daniel........

I have to join the bandwagon...Maturana has to go !!!!!!!

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« Reply #261 on: March 28, 2009, 08:34:40 PM »
Me eh find Daniel was doing much.

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« Reply #262 on: March 28, 2009, 08:35:18 PM »
what effin coach worth his effin salt takes of the TWO hardest working players?

the players he put on i have no problem with but scotty subbed over john?? no effin way

john missed 2-3 sitters

maturana is a effin goat

With all due respect, you don't know football for u to say Maturana doesn't know what he is doing. De man taking some shit players and making them competitive against better teams. So Stern John takes no responsiility for his misses? So the players don't take any responsibility for playin shit? What else u want Maturana to do, go on the field and play himself? Maturana is controversial, but a very good coach and he clearly understands how to develop players despite them lacking fundamentals.

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« Reply #263 on: March 28, 2009, 08:36:45 PM »
what effin coach worth his effin salt takes of the TWO hardest working players?

the players he put on i have no problem with but scotty subbed over john?? no effin way

john missed 2-3 sitters

maturana is a effin goat
Stern miss 2-3 sitters. You saw a different game ?

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« Reply #264 on: March 28, 2009, 08:38:30 PM »
what effin coach worth his effin salt takes of the TWO hardest working players?

the players he put on i have no problem with but scotty subbed over john?? no effin way

john missed 2-3 sitters

maturana is a effin goat
I don't agree totally. Stern should have stayed on with Scotty and Jones......ah mean we was trying to win.

Also absolutely no reason to take of Daniel........

I have to join the bandwagon...Maturana has to go !!!!!!!

Daniel contributed absolutely nothing tonight. He's one of my fav players, but he wa sineffective tonight, as he was for the last 2 or 3 games. He needs to find a club.

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« Reply #265 on: March 28, 2009, 08:40:20 PM »
this is not about stern he get selected to start dais not he fault.

Mats is a goat talk done
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« Reply #266 on: March 28, 2009, 08:41:33 PM »
a bottle of piss connected to a battery can run the team better

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« Reply #267 on: March 28, 2009, 08:45:44 PM »
what effin coach worth his effin salt takes of the TWO hardest working players?

the players he put on i have no problem with but scotty subbed over john?? no effin way

john missed 2-3 sitters

maturana is a effin goat
Stern miss 2-3 sitters. You saw a different game ?
De only sitters I see were missed by Hondurans. Maybe GS using a new definition of 'sitter'.

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« Reply #268 on: March 28, 2009, 08:46:52 PM »
daniel deserved to be subbed, as for stern or scotland it could have gone either way regarding the sub, one coach could look at it and say scotland had the better chances so keep him on, another coach will say stern has the track record so keep him on.
overall, i think maturana did well with the subs today.
as for the starters that is another story.
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« Reply #269 on: March 28, 2009, 08:51:12 PM »
i think maturana did well with the subs today.
as for the starters that is another story.
My sentiments also. Good subs. Shitty starting central midfield.

 

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