Do that. Let me ask you one more thing...you tink maturana come here to win digicel cup ? Well I dont ! Every thing he does is with ah view to qualifying for the WC ..no one will remember the digicel tournament if we qualfy fpr de WC. remember the time we beat jamaica in de caribbean cup final in T&T and were eliminated by them in the WC soon after? Who came out winner there ? look jamaica gone ahead to the next round ..you tink dey celebrating ? they must be wondering what we complaining about. They beat Mexico and Honduras yet could not beat our second string team , at home ! ...you think they happy ? yet we are unhappy. A big strong forward just burst on de scene, someone the coach was critisized for Picking ...you notice dat ?
That is why the players you named are irrelevant ...that is why I asked if Maturana is scouting forwards now ....come up with players to replace the same whitley and daniel etc. and i will listen to you . By the way dont forget that daniel is the leading scorer in this competition and our free kick specialist and a midfielder so think about that when you are considering his replacement.
In my view maturana is picking his teams with the WC team in mind. One thing I would say is that he still needs to find players, as Yorke and latapy eh playing no 90 mins at high or any other altitude next round.
I was impressed by a defense force player called Chris Durity as a good holding midfielder but he eh get a chance yet. there will always be players people feel should be on a national team ..in every country ...even on teams that have won a World Cup ! so this is nothing new ...
If of course you believe we should try to win every tournament we take part in ... ignoring the bigger picture.... the one which will make or break you ...then we wont see much eye to eye on the matter.
Again no one talking about winning, the GC. I am talking about consistent performance and quality play on the field. If you consistently have players who show they not up to the task, why keep them on. Some of the players who play in the GC is the same players (who if you look at pre-qualification to the HEX) will be in the team come HEX time. Yet, these same players struggle against minnow teams. How can you argue that?
Thread for the T&T vs England Game (01-Jun-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers:[/b]
Clayton Ince (Walsall), Marvin Phillip (W Connection).
Defenders:
Kern Cupid (W Connection),
Makan Hislop (United Petrotrin), Ancil Farrier (University Of Southern Connecticut), Dennis Lawrence (Swansea City), Kareem Smith (United Petrotrin), Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders), Akeem Adams (W Connection).
Midfielders:
Dwight Yorke (Sunderland),
Aurtis Whitley (capt) (W Connection), Ataullah Guerra (San Juan Jabloteh), Hayden Tinto (Caledonia AIA),
Khaleem Hyland (Un-Attached), Carlos Edwards (Sunderland),
Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin).
Forwards:
Kenwyne Jones (Sunderland), Stern John (Southampton), Darryl Roberts (Un-Attached).
Thread for the T&T v Jamaica Game (07-Jun-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers:[/b]
Clayton Ince (Walsall/ENG), Marvin Phillip (W Connection/TRI), Jan-Michael Williams (Un-Attached).
Defenders:
Kern Cupid (W Connection/TRI),
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public/TRI),
Makan Hislop (United Petrotrin/TRI), Ancil Farrier (University Of Southern Connecticut/USA), Dennis Lawrence (Swansea City/ENG), Kareem Smith (United Petrotrin/TRI), Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders/PUR), Akeem Adams (W Connection/TRI),
Aklie Edwards (Defence Force/TRI), Anton Pierre (Defence Force/TRI).
Midfielders:
Aurtis Whitley (capt) (W Connection/TRI), Ataullah Guerra (San Juan Jabloteh/TRI), Hayden Tinto (Caledonia AIA/TRI), Stephan David (Caledonia AIA/TRI),
Khaleem Hyland (Un-Attached), Carlos Edwards (Sunderland/ENG),
Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin/TRI), Kevaughn Connell (l'Entente SSG/FRA), Kevon Carter (Defence Force/TRI).
Forwards:
Jason Scotland (Swansea City/ENG), Darryl Roberts (Un-Attached), Jerol Forbes (United Petrotrin/TRI).
Thread for the T&T vs Bermuda Game (15-June-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers:[/b]
1.Clayton Ince (Walsall/ENG), 18.Jan-Michael Williams (Un-Attached).
Defenders:
2.Kern Cupid (W Connection/TRI), 4.
Makan Hislop (United Petrotrin/TRI), 3.Ancil Farrier (University Of Southern Connecticut/USA), 6.Dennis Lawrence (Swansea City/ENG), 13.Kareem Smith (United Petrotrin/TRI), 5.Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders/PUR), 15.
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public FC/TRI).
Midfielders:
9.
Aurtis Whitley (capt) (W Connection/TRI), 8.
Khaleem Hyland (Un-Attached), 7.Carlos Edwards (Sunderland/ENG), 17.
Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin/TRI), 11.Hayden Tinto (Caledonia AIA/TRI), 16.Stephan David (Caledonia AIA/TRI).
Forwards:
12.Jason Scotland (Swansea City/ENG), 10.Darryl Roberts (Un-Attached), 14.Stern John (Southampton/ENG).
Thread for the T&T vs Bermuda Game (22-June-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers:[/b]
1.Marvin Phillip (W Connection/TRI), 18.Jan-Michael Williams (Un-Attached).
Defenders:
2.Kern Cupid (W Connection/TRI), 4.
Makan Hislop (United Petrotrin/TRI), 6.Dennis Lawrence (Swansea City/ENG), 5.Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders/PUR), 15.
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public FC/TRI), 3.Michael Edwards (Defence Force/TRI), 13.Kareem Smith (United Petrotrin/TRI).
Midfielders:
9.
Aurtis Whitley (capt) (W Connection/TRI), 8.
Khaleem Hyland (Un-Attached), 7.Carlos Edwards (Sunderland/ENG), 17.
Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin/TRI), 11.Kevon Carter (Defence Force), 16.Stephan David (Caledonia AIA/TRI).
Forwards:
12.Jason Scotland (Swansea City/ENG), 10.Darryl Roberts (Un-Attached), 14.Stern John (Southampton/ENG), 13.Jerol Forbes (United Petrotrin/TRI).
Thread for the T&T vs El Salvador Game (14-Aug-08).
The 18-man squadGoalkeepers[/b]
Marvin Phillip (W Connection), Cleon John (San Juan Jabloteh).
Defenders
Cyd Gray (San Juan Jabloteh),
Makan Hislop (United Petrotrin), Gyasi Joyce (Caledonia AIA),
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public), Radanfah Abu Bakr (Caledonia AIA), Aklie Edwards (Defence Force).
Midfielders
Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin),
Khaleem Hyland (Unattached), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA), Kerry Baptiste (Joe Public),
Aurtis Whitley (W Connection), Clyde Leon (W Connection).
Forwards
Anthony Wolfe (North East Stars), Cornell Glen (Unattached), Andre Toussaint (W Connection).
Akeil Guevara (visa problems).
Thread for the T&T vs Cuba Game (20-Aug-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers[/b]
Marvin Phillip (W Connection), Jan Michael Williams (Ferencvaros FC).
Defenders
Cyd Gray (San Juan Jabloteh),
Makan Hislop (United Petrotrin), Dennis Lawrence (Swansea City),
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public), Avery John (Miami FC), Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders).
Midfielders
Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin),
Khaleem Hyland (Unattached), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA), Christopher Birchall (Coventry City), Clyde Leon (W Connection), Kerry Baptiste (Joe Public).
Forwards
Anthony Wolfe (North East Stars), Cornell Glen (Unattached), Andre Toussaint (W Connection), Darryl Roberts (Denizlispor FC).
Thread for the T&T vs Guatemala Game (06-Sept-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers
Marvin Phillip (W Connection), Jan Michael Williams (Ferencvárosi TC)
Defenders
Makan Hislop (United Petrotrin), Avery John (Miami F.C.), Dennis Lawrence (Swansea City), Cyd Gray (Clico San Juan Jabloteh), Julius James (Toronto F.C.),
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public F.C.), Aklie Edwards (Defence Force), Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders).
Midfielders
Carlos Edwards (Sunderland AFC), Anthony Wolfe (North East Stars), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA), Dwight Yorke (Sunderland AFC),
Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin), Clyde Leon (W Connection),
Khaleem Hyland (Unattached), Kerry Baptiste (Joe Public F.C), Akeil Guevera (North East Stars).
Forwards
Andre Toussaint (W Connection), Jason Scotland (Swansea City), Cornell Glen (Unattached).
Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (10-Sept-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers
Marvin Phillip (W Connection), Jan Michael Williams (Ferencvárosi TC)
Defenders
Makan Hislop (United Petrotrin), Gyasi Joyce (Caledonia AIA), Dennis Lawrence (Swansea City), Cyd Gray (Clico San Juan Jabloteh), Julius James (Toronto F.C.),
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public F.C.), Aklie Edwards (Defence Force), Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders).
Midfielders
Carlos Edwards (Sunderland AFC), Anthony Wolfe (North East Stars), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA),
Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin), Clyde Leon (W Connection), Kerry Baptiste (Joe Public F.C), Akeil Guevera (North East Stars).
Forwards
Andre Toussaint (W Connection), Jason Scotland (Swansea City), Cornell Glen (Unattached).
Thread for the T&T vs Guatemala Game (11-Oct-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers
Clayton Ince (Walsall, Eng), Marvin Phillip (W Connection, Tri)
Defenders
Dennis Lawrence (Crewe Alexandra, Eng), Avery John (Miami FC, USA),
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public, Tri), Cyd Gray (Clico San Juan Jabloteh, Tri),
Makan Hislop (United Petrotrin, Tri), Aklie Edwards (Defence Force, Tri), Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders).
Midfielders
Dwight Yorke (Sunderland, Eng) Clyde Leon (W Connection, Tri), Russell Latapy (Falkirk, Scotland),
Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin, Tri), Christpher Birchall (Coventry City, Eng),
Khaleem Hyland (S.V. Zulte Waregem, Belgium), Carlos Edwards (Wolverhampton Wanderers, Eng), Anthony Wolfe (North East Stars, Tri).
Forwards
Andre Toussaint (W Connection, Tri), Cornell Glen (Clico San Juan Jabloteh, Tri), Darryl Roberts (Denizlispor Kulubu, Turkey), Jason Scotland (Swansea City, Eng).
Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (15-Oct-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers
Clayton Ince (Walsall, Eng), Marvin Phillip (W Connection, Tri)
Defenders
Dennis Lawrence (Crewe Alexandra, Eng), Avery John (Miami FC, USA),
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public, Tri),
Makan Hislop (United Petrotrin, Tri), Aklie Edwards (Defence Force, Tri), Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders).
Midfielders
Dwight Yorke (Sunderland, Eng) Clyde Leon (W Connection, Tri), Russell Latapy (Falkirk, Scotland),
Keon Daniel (United Petrotrin, Tri), Christpher Birchall (Coventry City, Eng),
Khaleem Hyland (S.V. Zulte Waregem, Belgium), Carlos Edwards (Wolverhampton Wanderers, Eng).
Forwards
Andre Toussaint (W Connection, Tri), Cornell Glen (Clico San Juan Jabloteh, Tri), Stern John (Southampton, Eng), Darryl Roberts (Denizlispor Kulubu, Turkey), Jason Scotland (Swansea City, Eng).
Thread for the T&T vs Cuba Game (19-Nov-2008).
T&T Squad:Anthony Warner, Clayton Ince,
Makan Hislop, Dennis Lawrence,
Keyeno Thomas, Aklie Edwards, Cyd Gray, Dwight Yorke, Josh Johnson,
Keon Daniel, Khaleem Hyland, Carlos Edwards, Christopher Birchall, Clyde Leon, Russell Latapy, Stern John, Kenwyne Jones, Jason Scotland.
Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (03-Dec-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers.
Marvin Phillip (W Connection), Jan Michael Williams (Ferencvárosi TC).
Defenders.
Sean Power (Joe Public), Cyd Gray (San Juan Jabloteh),
Makan Hislop, Karlon Murray (San Juan Jabloteh), Julius James (Toronto FC),
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public), Avery John (Miami FC), Aklie Edwards (Defence Force), Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders).
Midfielders.
Aurtis Whitley (W Connection), Clyde Leon,
Khaleem Hyland (SV Zulte Waregem), Arnold Dwarika (Joe Public),
Keon Daniel (Unattached), Anthony Wolfe (North East Stars).
Forwards.
Andre Toussaint (W Connection), Cornell Glen (San Juan Jabloteh), Errol McFarlane (Al Mabarrah).
Thread for the T&T vs Barbados Game (05-Dec-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers.
Marvin Phillip (W Connection), Jan Michael Williams (Ferencvárosi TC).
Defenders.
Sean Power (Joe Public), Cyd Gray (San Juan Jabloteh),
Makan Hislop, Karlon Murray (San Juan Jabloteh), Julius James (Toronto FC),
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public), Avery John (Miami FC), Aklie Edwards (Defence Force), Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders).
Midfielders.
Aurtis Whitley (W Connection), Clyde Leon,
Khaleem Hyland (SV Zulte Waregem), Arnold Dwarika (Joe Public),
Keon Daniel (Unattached), Anthony Wolfe (North East Stars).
Forwards.
Andre Toussaint (W Connection), Cornell Glen (San Juan Jabloteh), Errol McFarlane (Al Mabarrah).
Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (07-Dec-2008).
T&T Squad:Goalkeepers.
Marvin Phillip (W Connection), Jan Michael Williams (Ferencvárosi TC).
Defenders.
Sean Power (Joe Public), Cyd Gray (San Juan Jabloteh),
Makan Hislop, Karlon Murray (San Juan Jabloteh), Julius James (Toronto FC),
Keyeno Thomas (Joe Public), Avery John (Miami FC), Aklie Edwards (Defence Force), Osei Telesford (Puerto Rico Islanders).
Midfielders.
Aurtis Whitley (W Connection), Clyde Leon,
Khaleem Hyland (SV Zulte Waregem), Arnold Dwarika (Joe Public),
Keon Daniel (Unattached), Anthony Wolfe (North East Stars).
Forwards.
Andre Toussaint (W Connection), Cornell Glen (San Juan Jabloteh), Errol McFarlane (Al Mabarrah).
I just highlighted a couple players who are consistently in the team across all tournament. If you look at the line up you will find more players who play consistently across tournaments. So your argument that the WC is more important than the GC does not really apply cause the WC players are featuring big time in WC games, yet we cannot play well and get result.
Argue again.
