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football philosophy: death of possession football?
« on: July 13, 2009, 12:03:45 PM »
Eddie Hart grounds, a youth man blaze pass 3 defenders and square a beautiful ball in front the goal. The small man getting cuss.  Why yuh eh pass the ball back to the midfield? a old fella say.
I was introduced to the concept of possession football a while back (1990ish ) and at 11yrs it made some sense. If you have possession they cant score, they run and get tired and when something open up you go score.
Today that doh make no sense.  The team that score the most goals win and when you attack you score.
Im curious as to what the football philosophy is and some justification.

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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2009, 12:11:11 PM »


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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2009, 12:12:07 PM »
the truth is... no one can put it down to one thing
or else we wont be following this game
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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 12:25:20 PM »
The old man made a correct but out of context statement.  There needs to be a purpose for possession. What does the team on the field intend to get out of their holding the ball?

The primary purpose of possession is to move the ball and players into good attacking positions to get behind the defense and score.  The value derived here can be measured in goals.  A 3 pass possession resulting in a goal = A 15 pass possession resulting in a goal

The secondary purpose of possession is to keep the ball away from the opponent so they have less opportunities to score. The value derived here is indirect or psychological at best but important.


 
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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2009, 12:29:47 PM »
the truth is... no one can put it down to one thing
or else we wont be following this game

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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 01:22:12 PM »
That is our problem ,we give away the ball in midfield. Dont talk about the defence they pass it to the opposition. Herein lies the problem. It is either boom kick or straight to the opponent

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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2009, 02:13:30 PM »
Eddie Hart grounds, a youth man blaze pass 3 defenders and square a beautiful ball in front the goal. The small man getting cuss.  Why yuh eh pass the ball back to the midfield? a old fella say.
I was introduced to the concept of possession football a while back (1990ish ) and at 11yrs it made some sense. If you have possession they cant score, they run and get tired and when something open up you go score.
Today that doh make no sense.  The team that score the most goals win and when you attack you score.
Im curious as to what the football philosophy is and some justification.

It have to do with your plan of execution and your players.  If the youth man could do that all day with good success then let him.  If you have Kaka and Zidane in your middle, then it obvious what you need to do.
I read on the board something that goes like this.  "The ball is like a magnet, passing it around builds up the energy to attract goals."  except in the case os USA and Spain.  So I guess i with BM.
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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2009, 03:11:53 PM »
A 30 yards pass from a defender to a forward resulting in a goal is just as exciting as a 10 touch possession which results in a goal. The essence of good football is to know when and how to use your skills to your advantage. With all the great ball possession Brazil, Arg, Paraguay, Uraguay does play, they play lots of long ball when the see fit. I would want our able to be able to play both possession and long ball, but at a faster pace.

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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2009, 03:59:54 PM »
Is this the original B&S?
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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2009, 04:20:32 PM »
Is this the original B&S?

you see any cussing and bitterness?
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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2009, 05:00:27 PM »
Is this the original B&S?

you see any cussing and bitterness?
Well i had tuh ask BC i know for ah fact that two members can't have the said exact name, and this was the case with reggae fan who had tuh reregister, and came back as a new member under the same name, so i was thinking maybe it's the same scenario.

i also think TI had the same problem.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2009, 05:37:54 PM »
Is this the original B&S?

you see any cussing and bitterness?

Probably did a 60days in St. Anns, some shock therapy or somebody finally caught up with him bitch slapped some manners into him!

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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2009, 05:56:43 PM »
Is this the original B&S?

you see any cussing and bitterness?

Probably did a 60days in St. Anns, some shock therapy or somebody finally caught up with him bitch slapped some manners into him!
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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2009, 10:45:53 AM »
Is this the original B&S?

you see any cussing and bitterness?

Probably did a 60days in St. Anns, some shock therapy or somebody finally caught up with him bitch slapped some manners into him!

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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2009, 11:03:51 AM »
the truth is... no one can put it down to one thing
or else we wont be following this game
and thats the beautiful truth
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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2009, 06:51:43 PM »
1st I didn't know that there was a user  named bake and shark before i choose a name. i am NOT the original.

2nd My original idea for the topic was not to say you have to play the game one way or another but to find out the general ideas and the approach to the game the members have.

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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2009, 07:00:17 PM »
1st I didn't know that there was a user  named bake and shark before i choose a name. i am NOT the original.

2nd My original idea for the topic was not to say you have to play the game one way or another but to find out the general ideas and the approach to the game the members have.


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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2009, 09:23:24 AM »
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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2009, 03:37:32 PM »
BTW, where the original sharks boy, he got eightysixed or what ?
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Re: football philosophy: death of possession football?
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2009, 07:13:58 AM »
The old man made a correct but out of context statement.  There needs to be a purpose for possession. What does the team on the field intend to get out of their holding the ball?

The primary purpose of possession is to move the ball and players into good attacking positions to get behind the defense and score.  The value derived here can be measured in goals.  A 3 pass possession resulting in a goal = A 15 pass possession resulting in a goal

The secondary purpose of possession is to keep the ball away from the opponent so they have less opportunities to score. The value derived here is indirect or psychological at best but important.



 I hear yuh, and the key is attack = goals.
but i feel like trinidadians have a lot of skill and creativity it's coached OUT of players.
how often yuh go to a game and hear some jeers when somebody do something creative, somebody take on a defender and at the same time get applauded for attempting a bad pass?
it's like the mentality and philosophy in tt is to never attack.