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Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« on: April 24, 2009, 06:45:12 PM »
Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
By: Alberto Cagliano (Europe Features).


Rome - A few years ago, la Repubblica columnist Vittorio Zucconi wrote that only madmen would continue calling the Italian Serie A the best league in the world.

Time proved the veteran journalist to be right and today, despite a fourth World Cup won in 2006, it is hard to find someone who feels like comparing Italy's top flight with that of England or Spain where the best players in the world tend to go these days.

With games from several European leagues available on pay TV, it is often painful for Italian football buffs to zap through channels, let alone thinking of the European tournaments, where no Serie A club went beyond the quarter finals.

The latest league showdown between leaders Inter Milan and second- place Juventus, both ejected from the Champions League, has lost its dominance and appeal from the 1908s and 1990s.

The 1-1 draw was marked by few worthy actions, plenty of tactics, some unfair behaviour and, most notably, the racist slurs against Mario Balotelli.

The 18-year-old talent was born in Italy to a Ghanaian family, scored Inter's goal, and was repeatedly booed by vast sectors of Turin's stadium, which cost Juve a game to be played behind closed doors.

Juve coach Claudio Ranieri, formerly at Chelsea, recalled how two fans were banned from stadiums for five years in England for insulting Dwight Yorke of Blackburn Rovers as the Trinidad and Tobago forward was about to come on in a game.

'If this happened in Italy,' Ranieri said. 'Violent fans would think twice before doing or saying certain things.'

Laws to ban hooligans exist in Italy, but it often happens that arrested fans are those who should not have been at the game due to previous offences.

The Interior Ministry has a plan to monitor the public through the distribution of club-issued fan cards, but the initiative has failed to take off amidst lukewarm attention from the same clubs and open scorn by die-hard fans.

Inter coach Jose Mourinho provided a defence of Juve in the Balotelli case, but his words seemed to backfire on Italian football fans in general.

'What happened Saturday was not a first time,' Mourinho said. 'It happened in many stadiums and also at home.'

Racism aside, the Portuguese provided a fresh look at Italian football after his successful experiences at Porto and Chelsea.

'Life here isn't easy,' he said about the frequent replacements of coaches, which so far took place at seven Serie A teams, two of which made two changes.

'I say that Italian coaches are clever technically and are capable of handling this pressure.'

Mourinho bluntly named football in England 'nicer, more spectatular and more orientated towards the future.'

Although coaches know how to deal with stress, their teams often fail to entertain the crowds that often shrink to groups of die-hard fans.

Attendance still has long been a way to go to meet a healthy level but it seems that things are not going that bad after years of small numbers following a vast game-rigging scandal in 2006.

The League of professional football (Lega Calcio) has monitored a growing trend, with average game attendance at 24,600, up by 2,000 compared to last year and more than 6,000 than two years ago.

Italian stadiums, however, are a far cry from the English ones that can be admired on television.

'Look at those guys! They could almost touch the players on throw-ins,' is a frequent comment among Italian TV viewers.

Most Italian stadiums still have a track around the pitch and high fences are a common view almost everywhere. Juventus appear set on building a new state-of-the-art arena, while Roma and Lazio are also eyeing the possibility.

High-definition broadcast allows to notice how English pitches look like pool tables, while in Italy, poor turf conditions often impair playing skills.

Television commentators, particularly those of paid channels, do their best to make the games entertaining, but often leave viewers puzzled when they praise shooters for their 'impressive power,' overlooking the fact that the ball flew five metres above the bar.

A close-range shot slammed into a goalkeeper chest is seldom called, as it should, a bestial blunder, but gets transformed into 'a prodigious save.'

In a perverse homage to triteness, each shot hitting the post is a 'palo clamoroso,' and it is always described as a case of bad luck, rather than lack of precision.

If it's true that there problems in football, facing them objectively could be a good way to start solving them.
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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2009, 07:39:07 PM »
Damn... wide-ranging criticism there.  If he was anything but Italian he might be branded a hater.

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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2009, 07:47:50 PM »
well the last few weeks i watch was very exciting
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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2009, 08:52:00 PM »
Television commentators, particularly those of paid channels, do their best to make the games entertaining, but often leave viewers puzzled when they praise shooters for their 'impressive power,' overlooking the fact that the ball flew five metres above the bar.

A close-range shot slammed into a goalkeeper chest is seldom called, as it should, a bestial blunder, but gets transformed into 'a prodigious save.'

In a perverse homage to triteness, each shot hitting the post is a 'palo clamoroso,' and it is always described as a case of bad luck, rather than lack of precision.

If it's true that there problems in football, facing them objectively could be a good way to start solving them.


wait til he listen to radio commentary of football with the heart attack cast we have in Trinidad.
... or when a man pull off a drag, spanner or cap another man - yuh could swear from the reaction of the crowd he score a goal, even though he get one hard bat or collect some blade from the next defender.
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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2009, 10:46:06 PM »
Television commentators, particularly those of paid channels, do their best to make the games entertaining, but often leave viewers puzzled when they praise shooters for their 'impressive power,' overlooking the fact that the ball flew five metres above the bar.

A close-range shot slammed into a goalkeeper chest is seldom called, as it should, a bestial blunder, but gets transformed into 'a prodigious save.'

In a perverse homage to triteness, each shot hitting the post is a 'palo clamoroso,' and it is always described as a case of bad luck, rather than lack of precision.

If it's true that there problems in football, facing them objectively could be a good way to start solving them.


wait til he listen to radio commentary of football with the heart attack cast we have in Trinidad.
... or when a man pull off a drag, spanner or cap another man - yuh could swear from the reaction of the crowd he score a goal, even though he get one hard bat or collect some blade from the next defender.

lol! acb man, I totally agree with you. I saying that for years- that is one of the major problems with our football and development, our standards are too low, a player would do something that's just routine in players in top leagues, and he'll sit back and admire it after he now finished hitting his umpteenth misplaced pass. Blasted standards too low, from the players and the supporters.

I like this article though, its really refreshing to hear such honest and thought out criticism coming from someone so affiliated with the target, always nice to hear, first step to solving a problem is admitting it, so thats good from Italy so far, I'm proud of them*awww*. We have plenty blasted admitting to do here in TnT.

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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2009, 10:05:19 AM »
Juve coach Claudio Ranieri, formerly at Chelsea, recalled how two fans were banned from stadiums for five years in England for insulting Dwight Yorke of Blackburn Rovers as the Trinidad and Tobago forward was about to come on in a game.

Yorke was actually with Birmingham City at the time (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/blackburn/article394465.ece) but otherwise, really good article. And it's a shame really, considering all the fantastic memories of Italian football when I was growing up (Maradona @ Napoli, Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard @ AC Milan, Klinsmann and Matthaus @ Inter Milan etc)  :beermug:

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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2009, 06:49:44 PM »
Juve coach Claudio Ranieri, formerly at Chelsea, recalled how two fans were banned from stadiums for five years in England for insulting Dwight Yorke of Blackburn Rovers as the Trinidad and Tobago forward was about to come on in a game.

Yorke was actually with Birmingham City at the time (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/blackburn/article394465.ece) but otherwise, really good article. And it's a shame really, considering all the fantastic memories of Italian football when I was growing up (Maradona @ Napoli, Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard @ AC Milan, Klinsmann and Matthaus @ Inter Milan etc)  :beermug:

what was sad about that incident was that Yorke's own boss/ Birmingham owner made some comments to the press alluding that Yorke over-reacted to the incident.
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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2009, 06:55:30 PM »
Juve coach Claudio Ranieri, formerly at Chelsea, recalled how two fans were banned from stadiums for five years in England for insulting Dwight Yorke of Blackburn Rovers as the Trinidad and Tobago forward was about to come on in a game.

Yorke was actually with Birmingham City at the time (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/blackburn/article394465.ece) but otherwise, really good article. And it's a shame really, considering all the fantastic memories of Italian football when I was growing up (Maradona @ Napoli, Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard @ AC Milan, Klinsmann and Matthaus @ Inter Milan etc)  :beermug:
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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2009, 06:58:38 PM »
Juve coach Claudio Ranieri, formerly at Chelsea, recalled how two fans were banned from stadiums for five years in England for insulting Dwight Yorke of Blackburn Rovers as the Trinidad and Tobago forward was about to come on in a game.

Yorke was actually with Birmingham City at the time (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/blackburn/article394465.ece) but otherwise, really good article. And it's a shame really, considering all the fantastic memories of Italian football when I was growing up (Maradona @ Napoli, Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard @ AC Milan, Klinsmann and Matthaus @ Inter Milan etc)  :beermug:
those were de days when serie A was king.

Amen 2 dat
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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2009, 07:21:28 PM »
Juve coach Claudio Ranieri, formerly at Chelsea, recalled how two fans were banned from stadiums for five years in England for insulting Dwight Yorke of Blackburn Rovers as the Trinidad and Tobago forward was about to come on in a game.

Yorke was actually with Birmingham City at the time (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/blackburn/article394465.ece) but otherwise, really good article. And it's a shame really, considering all the fantastic memories of Italian football when I was growing up (Maradona @ Napoli, Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard @ AC Milan, Klinsmann and Matthaus @ Inter Milan etc)  :beermug:
those were de days when serie A was king.

Even with the recent dominance of the EPL and rise of La Liga .... I hard pressed to identify a period of football that was more spectacular than that era in Serie A - I still rank that era and the best and most entertaining in football that I have ever seen.

It would be interesting to see what some of the older heads on the forum think about that era compared to others. I sure it must have some old thread to dig up covering that discussion.
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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2009, 08:18:38 AM »
I like this article though, its really refreshing to hear such honest and thought out criticism coming from someone so affiliated with the target, always nice to hear, first step to solving a problem is admitting it, so thats good from Italy so far, I'm proud of them*awww*. We have plenty blasted admitting to do here in TnT.

We'll never admit to any real problems here... not in the manner in which this guy did. If we do you'll see how public reaction will be to condemn, which is natural except that good sense never prevails and the benefits of the message are lost.

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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 02:17:09 AM »
I like this article though, its really refreshing to hear such honest and thought out criticism coming from someone so affiliated with the target, always nice to hear, first step to solving a problem is admitting it, so thats good from Italy so far, I'm proud of them*awww*. We have plenty blasted admitting to do here in TnT.

We'll never admit to any real problems here... not in the manner in which this guy did. If we do you'll see how public reaction will be to condemn, which is natural except that good sense never prevails and the benefits of the message are lost.

True dwolfman, plenty work hadda get done in TNT on peoples' minds.

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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2009, 09:55:18 AM »
I found Serie A this season to be very entertaining.

The last Milan derby was one of the better games I have seen this season, in any league.

Zlatan has been a joy to watch all season long. And though it hardly (if ever) materialised, Pato, Kaka, R10 running out for AC would be a Sat afternoon well spent.



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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 08:09:47 AM »
i agree dis season was nice...nuff team wit rel spirit an quality..daz how i like all 20 teams to be

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Re: Italian football has lost its class and appeal.
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2009, 08:15:28 AM »
I found Serie A this season to be very entertaining.

The last Milan derby was one of the better games I have seen this season, in any league.

Zlatan has been a joy to watch all season long. And though it hardly (if ever) materialised, Pato, Kaka, R10 running out for AC would be a Sat afternoon well spent.



I agree.
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