If Man U is favored, which I think they are.... if Barca wins it's an upset. simple.
I think people are confusing upset, with suprise.
This is a Goliath v Goliath match up so there will be no surprises (other than a dread blowout on either end)
With Barca's injuries & suspensions, and after viewing how Chelsea frustrated Barca's fluidity, add to that the somewhat EPL biased sentiment in the mainstream resulting from Chelsea's bout of weeping & moaning....I would think that the majority are leaning toward Man U winning this one...(that last part is just my perception).
An upset is when someone achieves a very unexpected victory against a clearly superior opponent. No way a Barca win will be an upset when they're being lauded as the best team in Europe.
If a no-name tennis player beats a number one seed like Serena...that's an upset. If Venus beats Serena although Serena was seeded number one, that's not an 'upset' because Venus is arguably just as good even though she wasn't 'favoured' to win based on the odds or 'seeded' as high as Serena.
thank you toppa... couldnt have said it better myself.
lol allyuh real jokey yes... This hadda go down as the most unnecessary fight-down I ever get on the board.
An upset is when the underdog beats the favorite.
A favorite is who the majority expects to win
In sports, that majority expectation is commonly determined by the bookmakers' odds, or some kinda established line/points spread.
So whether it's a vast majority or not, a marginal underdog, a huge underdog, a slight upset, a major upset...an upset is an upset.
Most upsets don't register on the radar (the press, the average person's senses) unless they are huge/major upsets....
In your example Toppa it has nothing to do with
clear superiority....Was Argentina clearly superior to Cameroon when Cameroon upset them in WC 90? Was Asafa Powell clearly superior to Richard Thompson when Richard upset him at the last olympics? Was Germany clearly superior to Bulgaria when they upset them in WC 94?....It has to do with, like you say, who the majority expects to win (of course most times the majority will expect the "superior" athlete to win)... and like I said, that majority is most conclusively determined by bookmakers' odds.
Whether
YOU choose to see it as an upset or not is a different story.
Next we hadda define majority lol
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