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Play or be dropped
« on: September 04, 2009, 07:31:29 AM »
Play or be dropped - WI selector

http://www.cricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/423471.html

Clyde Butts, the West Indies' chairman of selectors, has warned striking players to make themselves available for the region's domestic one-day tournament next month or face exclusion from the ensuing tour of Australia. Butts was hopeful, though not certain, that the industrial dispute between the board and the players will be resolved before the touring squad to Australia is announced, but raised the possibility that another weakened side, such as that humbled by Bangladesh in July, could be named if the unofficial deadline is not observed.

"The board is hoping to resolve this as quickly as possible," Butts told Cricinfo. "The board has asked the players to make themselves available for a domestic tournament from October 10, and if they do that, then I am confident we will have a strong squad for Australia. There has been a statement released about this.

"If that doesn't happen, then it depends on how the board views things. I believe there is a rule that players have to play in the domestic tournament preceding a tour to be considered. I am hopeful most, if not all, the players will make themselves available for that tournament and we can proceed as normal.

"Certainly, it would be very difficult for a young team to go to a place like Australia and not have the senior players to rub shoulders with and learn from. I am hoping the impasse will have been resolved by then, but I just don't know for sure. I am optimistic, however."

Butts, a former Test offspinner, admitted that neither the players nor the board could afford a long-term continuation of their industrial dispute, from both a financial and general interest perspective. Since the likes of Chris Gayle, Shivnarine Chanderpaul and Ramnaresh Sarwan withdrew their candidacy for selection, West Indies have suffered embarrassing Test and one-day series defeats to Bangladesh and named a severely weakened side for this month's Champions Trophy in South Africa.

"This will probably go on for a little while yet (but) I don't think West Indies cricket can afford to go down this road much longer," Butts said. "There isn't a person in this region who doesn't want to see their best players represent them, and the hope is that the impasse will soon be over so cricket can again be the winner.

"It is difficult as chairman of selectors when you are unable to pick your best team. There is a concern about (players retiring to play Twenty20 cricket), but from the players I have spoken to that is not on the cards. Most want to play cricket for the West Indies and are looking forward to doing so again at some point in the future."

Butts added that Darren Powell's withdrawal from West Indies' Champions' Trophy squad was due to injury, and not pressure exerted by WIPA, the players' union. Powell, the most experienced member of West Indies' original 15-man squad, has been replaced by uncapped fast bowler Kevin McLean.

"As far as I know it was injury related," he said. "He hurt himself playing a game in Jamaica and that's why he has had to pull out."

Alex Brown is deputy editor of Cricinfo

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Re: Play or be dropped
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2009, 08:05:36 AM »
Is one of two things will happen if the players continue the strike and a weakened team is selected for the Australia tour.
1) Cricket Austrailia will cancel the tour on the grounds that they not willing to play an 'under strength' WI team....not like the 'A' team is not an understrength team as well eh.  ;)  In which case WI may be forced to pay a fine.
2) Austrailia will play the games but use the opportunity to try out up and coming players.  If not just play with the A team and blow out WI in 2 days and help some men to better their averages.  I could see Ponting trying to break Lara's record.
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Re: Play or be dropped
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2009, 08:37:14 AM »
Ponting? break Lara's record? surely u jest? ;D I don't think we're that bad...even the 2nd best team...
I think the board is trying to exert some authority and flex some muscle. the fact is the players made themselves available before the icc games and they still were not considered....the board is playing one-upmanship with wipa and the team is suffering..
what next? :-\

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Re: Play or be dropped
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 08:59:31 AM »
Ponting? break Lara's record? surely u jest? ;D I don't think we're that bad...even the 2nd best team...
I think the board is trying to exert some authority and flex some muscle. the fact is the players made themselves available before the icc games and they still were not considered....the board is playing one-upmanship with wipa and the team is suffering..
what next? :-\

That's why ah say trying to break the record.  Them Aussies was devastated when Lara take back the record from Hayden...so they go want to give it a shot.  Doh underestimate them Aussies nah.  All they have to do is take first knock...and with the bowlers we have, who couldn't lickup Bangladesh...trust me...it not that hard to break that record.

I agree with you about the board trying to flex they muscle 100%.  I know the WI community go be suffering for a while, but I agree with the board's stance on this one.  I really really doh like the board members no more than anybody else...and i find they doing real shit for a long time now, but when frigging mediocre (at best) players holding me to ransome....nah that shit have to stop somewhere.  Yuh cyah be amongst the highest paid in the world already, have the worst record and performances to go along with it and then want to make demands and whatnot.

I still putting plenty blame on the board though for not handling the thing properly from earlier on.  If yuh have negotiated contracts...then honour them, but put things in place to deal with the performance and other issues that causing the strife now.
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Re: Play or be dropped
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2009, 09:19:31 PM »
the fact is the players made themselves available before the icc games and they still were not considered....the board is playing one-upmanship with wipa and the team is suffering..
what next? :-\

Our cricket suffers when our best players don't play in our domestic competitions. The rule that exists should be enforced more often and while the WICB is a dysfunctional unit I cannot critisize them insisting that these guys play. What possible reason can they have for not playing?

 

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