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Coaches Jobs on the line
« on: September 09, 2009, 07:49:14 AM »
A World Cup without France, Argentina or Portugal might previously have been unthinkable. Now it's a very real possibility for each of these world powers, and failure to qualify for the showpiece event in South Africa next year will have dire consequences for the employment of some of the highest profile managers in the international game.



Does Maradona have what it takes to be a top boss?

Sven Goran Eriksson, sacked by Mexico after failing to impress, was the biggest name to fall from the qualifiers this year although El Tri are now in a decent position to get through. But a bad result or two could also see the likes of Diego Maradona, Raymond Domenech and Carlos Queiroz relieved of their duties in disgrace.

In truth, these three have been walking a tightrope for some time and many would argue that they have not proved that they have what it takes to manage an international side. Domenech, of course, is the exception having led France to the World Cup final in 2006 but that now seems a lifetime away after abject failure at Euro 2008.

Argentina's Maradona, appointed in a flurry of emotion, is a name, an icon, and not a coach; Domenech has been living on borrowed time since his failure to get France out of their group at Euro 2008; while Portugal's Queiroz, it could be argued, has never impressed when given the managerial reigns - although remains a talented No.2.

The problem appears to be the reluctance of football associations to go back on their decisions. Maradona in particular is almost assured his place at the front of the national team because of the presence he has in the country.

But when he was presented almost a year ago, many criticised the appointment as one without footballing sense. The side were already struggling - having won just one match in seven at the end of Alfio Basile's reign - and the appointment of a man without any success as a coach, who had been out of the game for 13 years and who had a history of issues in his private life was deemed bizarre. But the AFA stood firm.

The hearts ruled the head for a second, yet no-one listened when Bolivia put six past them. The altitude was the cause in La Paz, but those in charge still appear to be dizzy from Maradona mania. A struggling win over Colombia, then defeat to Ecuador and finally, what would normally be a nail in the coffin, a home hammering against Brazil, was not enough to seal his fate and it seems only Argentine failure to qualify from CONMEBOL (for the first time in 40 years) will see him removed.

The fact that Maradona has called up 62 players, 29 of whom have one cap or none, suggests a desperate search for squad depth. Ten of the current squad ply their trade in Argentina (a high number given the resources on offer) and he has also attempted to use no less than six goalkeepers - none of whom have impressed.

Indeed, his approach to his squad has hindered Argentina's hopes. His refusal to play Juan Roman Riquelme and the overlooking of players who could add greatly to his armoury - notably Gonzalo, Esteban Cambiasso and Gonzalo Higuain - is his own fault, as are his tactics. Although perhaps he should never have been put in that position in the first place.

Standing only two points from elimination with three to play, Maradona cannot afford defeat against third-placed Paraguay; especially as the last qualifier is a tough away test in Uruguay. One feels he may need more than a 'Hand of God' to help him.


Queiroz made his name as a No.2.

In a similar position, Queiroz's Portugal could find themselves out of contention completely if they lose to Erwin Koeman's resurgent Hungary. While Queiroz does not hold anything like the kind of aura of Maradona, the Portuguese FA have perhaps been blinded by his excellent record as a No.2 at Manchester United. One look at his ten month spell in charge of Real Madrid suggests that he does not have the credentials to take charge of an international team.

Like Maradona, he has a host of talented players to choose from - including the best in the world, Cristiano Ronaldo - but the results have been poor enough to suggest he should have been sacked a long time ago. A 4-0 win over Malta may have started things off well, but failure to win any of the subsequent four matches, including 0-0 draws with Sweden and Albania, mean he could have been handed his P45 back in November - particularly after the 6-2 friendly drubbing against Brazil.

Worringly, Queiroz seems to blame his players. "They need to do more," Queiroz said back in March. "There's no reason why [Cristiano] Ronaldo, Nani, Simao, Maniche and Tiago shouldn't play as well when they are on international duty as they do for their club teams." Surely the onus is on the manager to motive them and not just pass the buck, but it won't be an easy task to hold onto his job for a man labelled ''dull'' and ''theoretical'' by a country still pining for the passionate dynamism of Felipe Scolari.

Another on borrowed time is France's Domenech, the source of much debate since the French FA decided not to ditch him after their failure at Euro 2008 and dreadful start in qualifying. Having somehow managed to keep his job since 2004, Domenech no longer has the respect of his countrymen and, while they have enjoyed a mini-revival since the opening defeat to Austria, Les Bleus are back in the spotlight after dreadful performances against the Faroe Islands and Romania.

The FFF president, Jean-Pierre Escalettes, has pledged his support to his charge in the past, saying: "He has the job of qualifying us for the World Cup. And I repeat that even if we have to go into the play-offs, it's still Raymond Domenech's job." But he was a shock choice when it was announced and many have questioned his suitability for the top job.

Many expected a former World Cup winner like Laurent Blanc or Jean Tigana to be given the role, but the FFF were swayed by Domenech's decade worth of experience with the French Under-21 side, if not by his attempts to bring Lyon into the public consciousness in the early 90s. One could still argue, despite a Zinedine Zidane-inspired World Cup final appearance, that it was the wrong choice and certainly that he should have been removed in 2008.


Domenech's results have not met expectations.

Recent quotes from Thierry Henry suggested that the squad does not back his tactical acumen and while he was not so bold as to suggest that the side had ''no style, no guidance and no identity" (as first reported), it is easy to see the point as the side have struggled for direction since the retirement of 'Zizou'.

Defeat to Serbia would end their hopes of automatic qualification and, while they remain in a decent position to qualify via the play-offs, the potential banana skin of a team like Croatia, Russia or Greece could finally end Domenech's reign.

Ultimately, the managers will take the blame, should the worst occur. But the reality is that the criticism should be levelled at the associations for their blind faith in bosses who should not have been entrusted with the responsibility of leading their nations for so long.

Of course, should the sides reverse their fortunes and scrape through to South Africa then they will claim their decisions have been justified; but, looking back, they may live to regret not choosing to cut the cord sooner.


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Re: Coaches Jobs on the line
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2009, 08:03:29 AM »

Argentina's Maradona, appointed in a flurry of emotion, is a name, an icon, and not a coach;

The problem appears to be the reluctance of football associations to go back on their decisions. Maradona in particular is almost assured his place at the front of the national team because of the presence he has in the country.

But when he was presented almost a year ago, many criticised the appointment as one without footballing sense. The side were already struggling - having won just one match in seven at the end of Alfio Basile's reign - and the appointment of a man without any success as a coach,

The hearts ruled the head for a second, yet no-one listened when Bolivia put six past them.
 


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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2009, 08:07:02 AM »

Argentina's Maradona, appointed in a flurry of emotion, is a name, an icon, and not a coach;

The problem appears to be the reluctance of football associations to go back on their decisions. Maradona in particular is almost assured his place at the front of the national team because of the presence he has in the country.

But when he was presented almost a year ago, many criticised the appointment as one without footballing sense. The side were already struggling - having won just one match in seven at the end of Alfio Basile's reign - and the appointment of a man without any success as a coach,

The hearts ruled the head for a second, yet no-one listened when Bolivia put six past them.
 


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Re: Coaches Jobs on the line
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 08:34:11 AM »
Great players do not necessarily make good coaches. Jack would stick with Latas and see what will happen after the Caribbean cup. That wil be latas make or break.

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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2009, 04:34:27 PM »
Great players do not necessarily make good coaches. Jack would stick with Latas and see what will happen after the Caribbean cup. That wil be latas make or break.
No NO!!! latas need to go as soon as the hex done! fresh start! clean slate! lets face it, the man is ah sh!t coach, get rid!
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2009, 10:15:51 PM »
Great players do not necessarily make good coaches. Jack would stick with Latas and see what will happen after the Caribbean cup. That wil be latas make or break.

Y it did not break d other fella so y must it b Latas Waterloo.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2009, 01:19:48 AM »
Great players do not necessarily make good coaches. Jack would stick with Latas and see what will happen after the Caribbean cup. That wil be latas make or break.
No NO!!! latas need to go as soon as the hex done! fresh start! clean slate! lets face it, the man is ah sh!t coach, get rid!

I would definitely agree to fire Latas if Latas keep Spann, call Chubby back, put KJ up front, and/or call back Dog. Then I know he not doing he job because no way shape or form these players warrant ah call up or to start ah game.

He need to do like Beenie and go watch every PFL game, really keep tabs on players. He picking players based on name and if he keep that up he need to go. Other than that give him time he obviously have potential.

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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 01:29:17 AM »
Great players do not necessarily make good coaches. Jack would stick with Latas and see what will happen after the Caribbean cup. That wil be latas make or break.
No NO!!! latas need to go as soon as the hex done! fresh start! clean slate! lets face it, the man is ah sh!t coach, get rid!

I would definitely agree to fire Latas if Latas keep Spann, call Chubby back, put KJ up front, and/or call back Dog. Then I know he not doing he job because no way shape or form these players warrant ah call up or to start ah game.

He need to do like Beenie and go watch every PFL game, really keep tabs on players. He picking players based on name and if he keep that up he need to go. Other than that give him time he obviously have potential.

Fellas like Peltier need ah chance now 

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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2009, 01:38:08 AM »
deh fire Gally, what did it get us for 10 years. - Struggles
With beenie and a plan to build we reached far. - But he did not play latas until it was too late..

We need to keep Latas for the long term. I like the passion he instill in de boys compared to all them other foreign no name shit hong like maturiana or what ever de hell he name is...

Yorke as assistant coach have a place too (but i ah little skeptical ah he) if he could drill we men into consistently scoring goals from now. Some of the under 20's now MUST be in goal scoring form.

Bottom line we need to BUILD with we own to be good. Use Latas, mould him as a coach. As a great midfielder he was one of the best in reading the game. Have him teach we boys to read de game.


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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2009, 05:20:58 AM »
The morning poll on I95.5 today is whether or Latapy should go....I think he should stay.....he MUST get at least 14 months...that's how the dentist parading as coach got....ah endure that, ah could endure Latapy for at least that long....
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2009, 05:32:49 AM »
The morning poll on I95.5 today is whether or Latapy should go....I think he should stay.....he MUST get at least 14 months...that's how the dentist parading as coach got....ah endure that, ah could endure Latapy for at least that long....

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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2009, 09:07:13 AM »
I really think some guys here being unfair.  Latas take over the team when they was already on the way out.  Allyuh wanted him to work magic even though he was ah Magician on the field.  Latas would have needed atleast a whole year to get the team he wanted to play the way he wanted.  Anyway my point is that Latas should be retained as National Coach and he needs an assistant who has a better resume than Yorke.  I sure Latas still have some contacts in Portugal or something to bring in his own peeps.

Give Latas the full 2.5 yrs to prepare for the next qualification in 2012.  TTFF should allow him to revamp the whole development programme.  Sit down with Lincoln Phillips now, formulate a plan.  Give Jack yuh ideas man.  Yorke could be a great PR man as far as getting more local sponsorship which will help with numerous friendlies since the TTFF doh have no money.  WE can be a force in the CONCACAF region but it begins with excellent planning.
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2009, 11:08:49 AM »
I really think some guys here being unfair.  Latas take over the team when they was already on the way out.  Allyuh wanted him to work magic even though he was ah Magician on the field.  Latas would have needed atleast a whole year to get the team he wanted to play the way he wanted.  Anyway my point is that Latas should be retained as National Coach and he needs an assistant who has a better resume than Yorke.  I sure Latas still have some contacts in Portugal or something to bring in his own peeps.

Give Latas the full 2.5 yrs to prepare for the next qualification in 2012.  TTFF should allow him to revamp the whole development programme.  Sit down with Lincoln Phillips now, formulate a plan.  Give Jack yuh ideas man.  Yorke could be a great PR man as far as getting more local sponsorship which will help with numerous friendlies since the TTFF doh have no money.  WE can be a force in the CONCACAF region but it begins with excellent planning.

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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2009, 11:15:07 AM »
Latapy should stay and I hope he uses more of the local talent.  The only way from here is up!!! 
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Kenton axed after Ticos slump
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2009, 06:50:29 PM »
Kenton axed after Ticos slump
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Rodrigo Kenton has paid the price for Costa Rica's poor recent form in 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa™ qualifying. The Central American nation's FA announced the boss's dismissal at a press conference on Monday in San Jose.

The coach, formerly a national team assistant and successful youth manager, took over the country's top post in June of 2008. He brought about a much-heralded revival after the disastrous reign of Hernan Medford nearly saw the Ticos eliminated from South Africa 2010 contention in the preliminary rounds at the hands of lowly Grenada.

However, after Kenton - a former player with local club giants Deportivo Saprissa - led the side to a first-place finish in the semi-final round, fortunes shifted in the final 'hexagonal.' After leading the six-team group for a large chunk of the campaign, the Costa Ricans - who have reached the last two FIFA World Cup finals and three overall - dropped their last three games, falling into the precarious fourth-place position with two matchdays to go.

It is likely that the Ticos will miss out on one of the three top spots in the North, Central America and Caribbean Zone, meaning they could face a play-off with South America's fifth-place finisher, a daunting proposition which might pit them against the likes of Argentina, Ecuador or Colombia.

"I would like to take the opportunity to thank Mr. Kenton for all of the work he has done," said FEDEFUT (Costa Rica's FA) President Eduardo Li to members of the media on Monday. "But results are important, and we have not got the right ones over the course of our last three matches."

The dramatic implosion of the Costa Rican side, which Kenton had revived by calling on youngsters like Celso Borges and Bryan Ruiz, has been nothing short of devastating. They lost their last three qualifying games to Mexico (at home in San Jose), Honduras and El Salvador, conceding eight goals and scoring none.

The powers that be in the FA clearly felt a message needed to be sent as the side aim to turn things around with all to play for in their last two games. The announcement of a new coach is expected in the next few days, with the next game - at home to eliminated Trinidad and Tobago - coming on 10 October. Costa Rica round out their account away against the USA four days later.
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October 2, 2008

When Rodrigo Kenton took over the reins in June, the atmosphere surrounding the Costa Rican team could scarcely have been grimmer. Former hero Hernan Medford had been sacked in acrimonious circumstances, and the team, widely regarded as the third part of CONCACAF's 'big three' behind USA and Mexico, were in deep crisis.

Three wins, nine points and 11 goals later, Costa Rica's fans and media are hailing a stunning turnaround and oozing confidence. FIFA.com recently caught up with the brain behind the revival.

"It was all gloom and doom when I took over the job," said Kenton, the former Saprissa player who took the position with less than a month to go before the group phase of CONCACAF qualifying for the 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa™. "Everyone was talking about how the team had lost its way and everyone was very negative. It wasn't a great time to take over the team!"

A side on the slide
Such negativity in the Central American country came about as a result of poor results stretching all the way back to the 2006 finals. After going out in the first round in Germany, the team struggled before making an early exit in the 2007 CONCACAF Gold Cup before drawing 2-2 with Grenada in pre-qualifying for South Africa 2010. It was the last straw, and Medford was sacked in June as the Ticos fell to 79th in the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking from a best-ever 17th.

"The first thing I had to do was change the attitude in the team," said Kenton, who assisted Bora Milutinovic at Costa Rica's first world finals at Italy 1990. "I knew once the players started to get into a rhythm and start playing good, attacking football, that the fans would come around."

Attitude is one thing, but the new coach also had to change the face of the team. "It's a strange thing in Costa Rica, but sometimes the players who are playing outside of the country don't get a chance," the Limon-born coach revealed. "But I knew that we had good players in Costa Rica spread out all over the world. It was my job to find the right balance."

Inside knowledge
Kenton also had a bit of inside information to help him in his new job. As the Costa Rican Olympic coach in the early 2000s, he had intimate knowledge of a talented, but tragically underused, crop of Tico players. Austria-based Froylan Ledezma, Junior Diaz and Gabriel Badilla (New England Revolution) are just a few of Kenton's more impressive call-ups. Perhaps his most inspired tap, though, was one Bryan Ruiz of Belgian club side K.A.A Gent.

"He is a very interesting player," enthused Kenton. "He's a very elegant player, but the first few times he was called up he didn't show too much. I kept faith in him, and before our last game against Haiti, ."

The 3-0 win over Haiti in Port au Prince was merely the culmination of Kenton's revolution. "It had been ages since we won a game on the road in the Caribbean, which is a lot harder than most people think," the coach said. "But it was built on the two previous results and the high spirit in the camp."

Strength to strength
In his first game in Group 3 of CONCACAF semi-final qualifying round, Kenton's men pulled off a 1-0 win over resurgent El Salvador in which the scoreline could have been much more impressive were it not for an outstanding performance from Salvadoran goalkeeper Miguel Montes. A month later they routed Suriname 7-0, scoring the most goals of any team on a September international break which saw 120 games played.

The Ticos are now on a perfect nine points from their three group games, and need only one more win to assure themselves of a finish in the top two and a place in the final group. Their next game is against Suriname in Paramaribo on 1 October.

"We want to keep the momentum going," Kenton concluded. "We're looking for wins and that's that. The people in Costa Rica are excited, the team's excited and I'm excited."
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2009, 06:56:09 PM »
Nice, we guh pull out an upset now in San Jose  :beermug:
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2009, 07:25:50 PM »
Nice, we guh pull out an upset now in San Jose  :beermug:

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Dunga shows way to Maradona
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2009, 07:31:37 PM »
Dunga shows way to Maradona

Dunga and Diego Maradona - two World Cup winners as players, who are going through contrasting fortunes as novice coaches.

Dunga has steered Brazil through to World Cup qualification with matches in hand, and has picked up the Copa America and the Confederations Cup along the way. Maradona, meanwhile, is sitting in the hot seat with his Argentina in danger of missing out on the World Cup for the first time since 1970.

So why has one of them taken so easily to coaching and the other is floundering?

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Re: Dunga shows way to Maradona
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2009, 07:36:42 PM »
diego and latas in de same boat.
soon ah go b ah lean mean bulling machine.

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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2009, 07:47:08 PM »
when dunga first took over he was heavily critisized, and was on the edge, so maradonna needs time, dunga has had more time as coach and with the team...

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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2009, 07:47:32 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2009, 07:51:59 PM »
CR don't play that. Win or die!!!!!!

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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2009, 08:21:49 PM »
Nice, we guh pull out an upset now in San Jose  :beermug:

CR shitty but not that shitty.

Maybe the transition under the new coach might help us  :)
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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2009, 08:32:28 PM »
Ah guh fuhgive allyuh, all yuh not familiar wid meh sarcasm, 100% RWB all de same
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Re: Dunga shows way to Maradona
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2009, 08:39:23 PM »
Dunga shows way to Maradona

Dunga and Diego Maradona - two World Cup winners as players, who are going through contrasting fortunes as novice coaches.

Dunga has steered Brazil through to World Cup qualification with matches in hand, and has picked up the Copa America and the Confederations Cup along the way. Maradona, meanwhile, is sitting in the hot seat with his Argentina in danger of missing out on the World Cup for the first time since 1970.

So why has one of them taken so easily to coaching and the other is floundering?

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Very simple, Dunga isn't/wasn't ah friggin crack-head!
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Re: Kenton axed after Ticos slump
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2009, 10:06:35 PM »
Bad timing, in my opinion.  One of the problems with Central American football...too rash in their decision making.

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Re: Kenton axed after Ticos slump
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2009, 11:17:15 PM »
Li doh play that.

More likely than not the replacement will be a Tico, buh even Beenie name gehhin called in the mix.

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Re: Dunga shows way to Maradona
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2009, 12:28:12 AM »
Dunga shows way to Maradona

Dunga and Diego Maradona - two World Cup winners as players, who are going through contrasting fortunes as novice coaches.

Dunga has steered Brazil through to World Cup qualification with matches in hand, and has picked up the Copa America and the Confederations Cup along the way. Maradona, meanwhile, is sitting in the hot seat with his Argentina in danger of missing out on the World Cup for the first time since 1970.

So why has one of them taken so easily to coaching and the other is floundering?

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Very simple, Dunga isn't/wasn't ah friggin crack-head!

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Seriously....That is the worst position ah drug addict could put deyself in.  Pressure and stress is triggers fuh them and that is the last thing they need (well beside crack itself).    He might need another trip to Cuba after all this.

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Re: Kenton axed after Ticos slump
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2009, 01:02:27 AM »
Bad timing, in my opinion.  One of the problems with Central American football...too rash in their decision making.

I disagree with you here.

WCQ ia ALL about the RESULT.  If you can't deliver, you're fired.  That simple.

Pay attention to de man quote:

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"I would like to take the opportunity to thank Mr. Kenton for all of the work he has done," said FEDEFUT (Costa Rica's FA) President Eduardo Li to members of the media on Monday. "But results are important, and we have not got the right ones over the course of our last three matches."

Dis eh no play ting.  Dis is SERIOUS BUSINESS.  Too late fuh tings like "deelopment" etc.  Either perform or you're replaced.  Daz why Argentina doin assness by continuin wit Maradona.  If dey continue...dey mightn't even make de playoff.

And there will be considerable weepin and wailin and gnashin of teet because de game's showcase event will be without de so called 2 best players in de game.
Carlos "The Rolls Royce" Edwards

 

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