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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2010, 02:17:17 PM »
I heard the containment tank thing they built didn't work on first try....what happen since?...
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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2010, 02:43:53 PM »
Dey made a smaller one....were supposed to try it today. Right now more of the news centered around the blame game dat going on.
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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2010, 11:47:09 AM »
wow - dutty, that pic says it all. :( 

an engineering prof from purdue uses a different method to calculate the leak rate and gets 70 000 barrels per day! compared to 5 000 from BP.

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BP to try pipe insertion today to stem oil gushing into Gulf

(CNN) -- BP will try again within the next day to cap a well that has gushed millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico, the energy company said Friday.

An effort last weekend to plug the leak with a four-story containment dome failed when natural gas crystals collected inside the structure, plugging an outlet at the top.

The latest attempt will involve a tube designed to be inserted into a ruptured pipe, collect oil and send it to a vessel on the surface, said Mark Proegler, a BP spokesman.

The insertion tube is on the sea floor, and engineers plan to move it into place Friday, Proegler said. The company also has lowered a smaller containment dome for use if the insertion tube does not stem the flow of oil, he said.

In Washington, President Obama criticized executives from BP and two other companies for blaming each other for the catastrophe.

"It is absolutely essential that going forward, we put in place every necessary safeguard and protection so that a tragedy like this oil spill does not happen again," Obama said after meeting Friday with Cabinet members to discuss the spill.

"This is a responsibility that all of us share," he said. "The oil companies share it. The manufacturers of this equipment share it. The agencies in the federal government in charge of oversight share that responsibility. I will not tolerate more finger-pointing or irresponsibility."

BP's efforts to plug the leak come amid growing concern that the company has been low-balling how much oil has poured out of the well: A researcher says up to 70,000 barrels of oil could be leaking per day, and BP stands by a 5,000-barrel figure.

Rep. Edward Markey, D-Massachusetts, sent BP a letter Friday asking for more details from federal agencies about the methods they are using to analyze the oil leak.

Markey, who chairs a congressional subcommittee on energy and the environment, said he will launch the formal inquiry after learning of independent estimates that are significantly higher than the amount BP officials have provided.

"The public needs to know the answers to very basic questions: How much oil is leaking into the Gulf and how much oil can be expected to end up on our shores and our ocean environment?" Markey said in a letter to BP. "I am concerned that an underestimation of the flow may be impeding the ability to solve the leak and handle management of the disaster."

BP has said that since the April 20 explosion of the Deepwater Horizon drill rig that about 5,000 barrels -- or 210,000 gallons -- have been pouring out of the well. The company says it reached that number using data, satellite images and consultation with the Coast Guard and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

"I think that's a good range," Doug Suttles, BP's CEO for exploration and production, said Friday.

But a researcher at Purdue University said BP's estimate is too low. Associate Professor Steve Wereley says about 70,000 barrels of oil are leaking each day, based on an analysis of video of the spill.

Wereley said he spent two hours Thursday analyzing the video using a technique called particle image velocimetry. He said there is a 20 percent margin of error, which means between 56,000 and 84,000 barrels could be leaking daily.

"You can't say with precision, but you can see there's definitely more coming out of that pipe than people thought," he said. It's definitely not 5,000 barrels a day."

At the Washington meeting, Obama consulted members of his Cabinet and other senior administration officials to determine the next steps in the effort to stop the oil spill, contain its spread and help affected communities.

The dispute over the size of the oil leak caps a week in which congressional committees grilled executives from BP and two other companies: drilling contractor Transocean Ltd., which owned the rig, and oilfield services contractor Halliburton, which was responsible for cementing the well shut once drilled.

The companies blamed each other.

BP pointed to Transocean, which said BP was responsible for the wellhead's design and Halliburton was responsible for the cement finishing work. Halliburton, in turn, said that its workers were just following BP's orders, but that Transocean was responsible for maintaining the rig's blowout preventer.

Obama took exception Friday.

"I did not appreciate what I considered to be a ridiculous spectacle during the congressional hearings into this matter," the president said. "You had executives of BP and Transocean and Halliburton falling over each other to point the finger of blame at somebody else. The American people could not have been impressed with that display, and I certainly wasn't."

BP, the Coast Guard, and state and local authorities have scrambled to keep the oil from reaching shore or the ecologically delicate coastal wetlands off Louisiana. They have burned off patches of the slick, deployed more than 280 miles of protective booms, skimmed as much as 4 million gallons of oily water off the surface of the Gulf and pumped more than 400,000 gallons of chemical dispersants onto the oil.

Investigators are still trying to determine what caused the April 20 explosion at the rig, which sank two days later. Eleven workers are missing and presumed dead.


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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2010, 02:40:33 PM »
Some interesting reading...

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The Atlantic Empress was a Greek oil tanker that was involved in two large oil spills. The spills together are the third largest oil spill on record and the second largest ship-based spill.

On July 19, 1979, during a tropical rainstorm, the ship collided with the Aegean Captain, off Trinidad and Tobago, spilling 287,000 metric tonnes of oil consigned to Mobil. The damage incurred from the collision was never completely remedied, and while being towed on August 2, the Atlantic Empress continued to spill an additional 41 million gallons (all together being 276,000 tonnes of crude oil) off Barbados. The Aegean Captain also spilled a large quantity of oil from her No. 1 tank. The Atlantic Empress sank on 3 August in deep water and her remaining cargo solidified. The spill from the two ships fortunately never came ashore.

By comparison, the infamous Exxon Valdez spill ten years later only saw 37,000 metric tonnes of oil released.
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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2010, 03:13:51 PM »
And Obama not keepin ghis promises at all.  Now he seems to be agreeing with Drill baby drill as he issuing off shore drilling permits, including several to the same BP.

Obama keep your promises.

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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2010, 03:59:22 PM »
While the impact of a large oil spill is great, the overall safety of offshore drilling is pretty good.

The US has over 4000 wells in the Gulf of Mexico alone. These have survived hurricanes and earthquakes with no resulting environmental catastrophe.

What is at issue here is the apparent lack of adequate regulatory oversight and of the equipment and plan needed to deal with a spill such as this.  I would imagine that there has been a general level of complacency giving the rarity of these incidents.
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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2010, 08:26:08 PM »
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704614204575245810666495600.html?mod=rss_com_mostcommentart

HOUSTON—BP PLC had its first breakthrough in the effort to stem the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, using robots to insert one end of a mile-long tube into a shattered oil pipe on the ocean floor. The goal is to siphon up some, if not most, of the crude gushing into the Gulf of Mexico.

In an early sign of success, BP said it had begun burning off gas emerging from the apparatus at the ocean's surface.

At BP's crisis center—where some 500 people are working round-the-clock—a bunker mentality eased a bit. "Everyone's encouraged now," said Richard Lynch, who is leading BP's subsea containment effort.

There's no assurance the risky maneuver will pan out. Like BP's previous efforts to curb the leak, this one has an improvised quality that exposes the difficulties of working at the frontiers of oil production. Several earlier attempts, including an attempt to place a large dome over the leaking oil well on the ocean floor, have failed.

The current strategy involves snaking a tube snugly into the leaking pipe. The tube is bent at one end like a hook and equipped with thick rubber fins intended to keep oil from leaking out around the edges.
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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2010, 09:32:45 PM »
f**k BP....they culpabale and caused this catastrope!  Ignoring the safety reports, so their honchos could buy another mansion or three.

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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2010, 05:55:39 AM »
f**k BP....they culpabale and caused this catastrope!  Ignoring the safety reports, so their honchos could buy another mansion or three.


Is a series of events. As it is....i trying to find a report about it. Apparently they put cement and started circulating the mud off..which led to the kick. The drilling contractor saying they were following instructions..buh doing that is madness anywhere....since the cement didnt get chance to set. What making it worse is the blame game. Buh....dahs de oilfield for you.
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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2010, 05:01:36 PM »


or they could use an old unused president’s house.
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Re: What f**king oil slick?
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2010, 09:23:38 PM »
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/849.html

Brit Hume and d eFox crew (neo-cons)saying is not ah big ting.

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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2010, 08:30:53 AM »
BREAKING

'Top kill' method 'stops BP oil leak' in Gulf of Mexico

BP has stopped the flow of oil and gas from a ruptured well into the Gulf of Mexico, a US official told local media.

The company's "top kill" effort has "stabilised the wellhead", Coast Guard commander Thad Allen said, adding that it was too early to declare success.

This is the first step, using mud, in BP's plan to seal the well for good with cement.

Eleven workers were killed in the initial explosion on the Deepwater Horizon rig five weeks ago.

Since then millions of gallons of oil have poured into the sea.

Later on Thursday, US President Barack Obama will extend a moratorium on deep-water offshore drilling for six months, the White House has said.

The move comes as his administration faces criticism of its handling of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
'Low pressure'

Adm Allen told US media the "top kill" procedure, which began on Wednesday, has pumped enough drilling fluid to block all oil and gas escaping from the well.

"They've been able to stabilise the wellhead, they're pumping mud down it. They've stopped the hydrocarbons from coming up," Adm Allen told WWL First News radio.

It was the first positive official assessment of BP's latest attempt to plug the well, after previous efforts failed.

BP has not yet commented in detail on the situation, saying merely that the operation was continuing.

Adm Allen said there was still pressure from the well, although at very low levels.

Once engineers have reduced the pressure to zero, they will begin pumping cement into the hole to seal the well, he added.

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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2010, 11:24:45 AM »
look like the head of the MMS gone - elizabeth birnbaum resigns. hopefully more to follow...

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« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2010, 12:05:54 PM »
look like the head of the MMS gone - elizabeth birnbaum resigns. hopefully more to follow...

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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2010, 12:30:29 PM »
look like the head of the MMS gone - elizabeth birnbaum resigns. hopefully more to follow...

What is the MMS??

It is under the Dept. of Interior, Minerals Management Service

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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2010, 04:37:10 PM »
BP has temporarily suspended 'top kill' effort

There's no end in sight for the situation in the Gulf of Mexico. Anderson Cooper reports live tonight from the region as BP attempts to stop the leak. Watch "AC360°" tonight at 10 ET on CNN for the latest on stopping the leak.

Venice, Louisiana (CNN) -- BP's much-anticipated effort to cap its undersea gusher in the Gulf of Mexico was temporarily suspended at midnight and was expected to resume Thursday evening, a BP executive said.

The "top kill" procedure continued until "just before midnight, when we stopped pumping operations," Doug Suttles, the company's chief operating officer, told reporters. BP has been evaluating the results of the first round of pumping over the past 16 hours.

"We have not yet pumped today," Suttles said. The light-brown material that's been seen flowing out of the well throughout Thursday was the previously pumped fluid mixed with oil.

"Nothing has actually gone wrong or unanticipated," Suttles said. He said engineers have been monitoring the process for the past 24 hours, and determining adjustments to the mud-like fluid being injected into the line to counter to flow of oil.

He said the next step will be to restock the drilling fluid and restart in the evening.

The latest development in the difficult top-kill procedure came as the Gulf Coast had been holding its breath all day Thursday over a spill that is now estimated at twice the size of the Exxon Valdez disaster.

BP's effort to suppress the oil spill by pumping heavy drilling fluid into the breach could take another 24 to 48 hours to complete, Bob Dudley, its managing director, reported earlier Thursday. At that time, the "top kill" attempt had so far been successful, and the company planned to start pumping more fluid down a second line in hopes of clogging the underwater well, he said.

Enormous brown plumes of drilling "mud" billowed from the damaged well during the process, which Dudley called "a "titanic arm-wrestling match" a mile below the surface. Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, who is leading the government's response to the oil spill, said the work "is moving along as everyone had hoped."

"They're pumping mud into the well bore, and as long as mud is going down, hydrocarbons are not going up," Allen told reporters Thursday afternoon. The work could take another night, he told reporters in Venice, near the mouth of the Mississippi River.

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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2010, 07:40:10 PM »
T. Boone Pickens on Larry King now basically saying none of this is going to work. No Top Kill, No Junk Shot. He might just be doing the ornery old man thing though.  He say if anything work is just luck.  the relief well is the answer. So we will be here another 38 days...
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« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2010, 07:01:54 AM »
T. Boone Pickens on Larry King now basically saying none of this is going to work. No Top Kill, No Junk Shot. He might just be doing the ornery old man thing though.  He say if anything work is just luck.  the relief well is the answer. So we will be here another 38 days...

At that rate de oil go reach deep in the caribbean
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« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2010, 08:57:08 AM »
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« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2010, 02:21:53 PM »
T. Boone Pickens on Larry King now basically saying none of this is going to work. No Top Kill, No Junk Shot. He might just be doing the ornery old man thing though.  He say if anything work is just luck.  the relief well is the answer. So we will be here another 38 days...

At that rate de oil go reach deep in the caribbean

It looking like Pickens was correct. top kill, junk shots, all them ting buss. On to the next plan.

What I really enjoy reading is the opinions of all the online "experts" who are like, just do X. Or the conspiracy theorists who think BP not really trying to close the well.

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« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2010, 02:24:47 PM »
BP says so far, Gulf well plug isn't working

COVINGTON, La. – A risky procedure to stop the oil spewing into the Gulf of Mexico has yet to show much success, and BP is considering scrapping it in favor of a different method to contain the worst oil spill in U.S. history, an executive said Saturday.

The comments from BP PLC chief operating officer Doug Suttles came amid increasing skepticism that the "top kill" operation — which involves pumping heavy drilling mud into a crippled well 5,000 feet underwater — would halt the leak.

The top kill began Wednesday, and "to date it hasn't yet stopped the flow," Suttles told reporters at Port Fourchon. "What I don't know is whether it ultimately will or not."

If the top kill fails, BP would cut off the damaged riser from which the oil is leaking and cap it with a containment valve that's already resting on the seafloor. BP is already preparing for that operation, Suttles said.

Since the top kill began Wednesday, BP has pumped huge amounts mud into the well at a rate of up to 2,700 gallons per minute, but it's unclear how much is staying there. A robotic camera on the seafloor appeared to show mud escaping at various times during the operation. On Saturday, the substance spewing from the well appeared to be oil, experts said.

BP has also tried several times to shoot assorted junk into the well's crippled blowout preventer to clog it up and force the mud down the well bore. That, too, has met with limited success.

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, addressing reporters after he spoke at a high school graduation ceremony in Denver, echoed what Suttles said and said officials were evaluating the next step. He said the relief well was the ultimate solution, but said something was needed to stop the spill until then.

"We're doing everything with the best minds in the world to make sure that happens," he said.

The oil spill began after the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig exploded in April, killing 11 people. It's the worst spill in U.S. history — exceeding even the Exxon Valdez disaster in 1989 off the Alaska coast — dumping between 18 million and 40 million gallons into the Gulf, according to government estimates.

Experts and other observers were growing increasingly skeptical that BP would be able to plug the well. Eric Smith, associate director of the Tulane Energy Institute, said Saturday that the top kill appeared headed for failure.

"They warned us not to draw too many conclusions from the effluent, but ... it doesn't look like it's working," he said.

BP had pegged the top kill's chances of success at 60 to 70 percent. The company says the best way to stop the flow of oil is by drilling relief wells, but those won't be completed until August.

Chris Roberts, a councilman in Louisiana's Jefferson Parish, said he was frustrated by BP's failures and perceived lack of transparency.

"We're wondering whether or not they're attempting to give everybody false hope in order to drag out the time until the ultimate resolution to it" — the completion of the relief wells, Roberts said.

Meanwhile, Coast Guard and Minerals Management Service officials heard a sixth day of testimony during hearings into the disaster in Kenner.

David Sims, BP's drilling operations manager for exploration and appraisal in the Gulf of Mexico, testified he was aware of well problems experienced by the Deepwater Horizon's drilling crew in the weeks and months leading up to the explosion. He said there were no serious problems the day the rig exploded.

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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #56 on: June 05, 2010, 09:05:40 AM »
T. Boone Pickens on Larry King now basically saying none of this is going to work. No Top Kill, No Junk Shot. He might just be doing the ornery old man thing though.  He say if anything work is just luck.  the relief well is the answer. So we will be here another 38 days...

I heard from a BP employee that BP always knew the relief well was the answer....everything else was just PR gimmickry.....
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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2010, 01:16:22 AM »
Oil Spill could possibly reach the Caribbean soon (Bahamas & Jamaica)..http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10650084&ref=rss

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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2010, 12:02:29 PM »
a padnah was telling me that BP US operations will take the legal hit for this, insulating the rest of the company.

look spike lee "directing" de president on the appropriate reaction (like is denzel he looking for?):

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if dis spill was off sakhalin, ah could well imagine putin's response. dem big ceo and dey spin merchants woulda be down at the beach all now with bucket and shovel.  :devil:

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Re: Oil slick off the coast of Louisiana
« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2010, 03:30:40 PM »
T. Boone Pickens on Larry King now basically saying none of this is going to work. No Top Kill, No Junk Shot. He might just be doing the ornery old man thing though.  He say if anything work is just luck.  the relief well is the answer. So we will be here another 38 days...

I heard from a BP employee that BP always knew the relief well was the answer....everything else was just PR gimmickry.....

Exactly. But the time needed for the relief well to be drilled woulda be time wasting and yuh woulda hear more noise. So...dey just do what they could trying to mitigate. It have no way they could stop that without a relief well. They could try and reduce the flow as much as possible..and risk the pressure forcing back the fluid back into the formation and fracturing somewhere else and thus causing further problems. So....sadly it hadda go so.
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