eX jUSTICE Volney

[Dutty]

It real interesting that ah man who's name is becomming an electoral 'issue'....must be limin on bondi beach blissfully unaware that it even have elections in trinidad

[truetrini]

I understood your point, I did not make my clear, sorry.  It was aberrant in MY view as he totally disregarded a qualified opinion and freed a man erroneously.  Then his frens and dem, who now on de same UNCOP platform agreed with his decision, only for the Privy Council to say dey was wrong.

sorry.

Still interested in knowing what the court of appeal said, or was they bypassed for the privy council?

I told you that Sharma and de rest ah dem say Volney was right..den the State took it to the highest court which ruled Volney erred

[Bakes]

I understood your point, I did not make my clear, sorry.  It was aberrant in MY view as he totally disregarded a qualified opinion and freed a man erroneously.  Then his frens and dem, who now on de same UNCOP platform agreed with his decision, only for the Privy Council to say dey was wrong.

sorry.

He didn't just disregard Des Vignes' opinion... he disCREDITED it.  He went out of his way to investigate, call his own expert witness (he's not a party to the case, nor should he be helping either side) and discredit a witness.  Real bizarro world thing.  Yeah it was a clear departure from procedure.

[sammy]

I understood your point, I did not make my clear, sorry.  It was aberrant in MY view as he totally disregarded a qualified opinion and freed a man erroneously.  Then his frens and dem, who now on de same UNCOP platform agreed with his decision, only for the Privy Council to say dey was wrong.

sorry.

Still interested in knowing what the court of appeal said, or was they bypassed for the privy council?

I told you that Sharma and de rest ah dem say Volney was right..den the State took it to the highest court which ruled Volney erred

so is not volney alone who erred in this instance, but rather our panel of judges failed, so then y all the attacks on volney alone? Maybe all of our judges are tainted?

[Bakes]

so is not volney alone who erred in this instance, but rather our panel of judges failed, so then y all the attacks on volney alone? Maybe all of our judges are tainted?

If you don't understand why Volney being "attacked" then something wrong in your head.  The Appellate panel didn't step outside their roles to compromise a trial... they merely found some b.s. justification for Volney's actions.

[sammy]

so is not volney alone who erred in this instance, but rather our panel of judges failed, so then y all the attacks on volney alone? Maybe all of our judges are tainted?

If you don't understand why Volney being "attacked" then something wrong in your head.  The Appellate panel didn't step outside their roles to compromise a trial... they merely found some b.s. justification for Volney's actions.

it other words, they defending the indefensible and should be chided as well?

[Brownsugar]

so is not volney alone who erred in this instance, but rather our panel of judges failed, so then y all the attacks on volney alone? Maybe all of our judges are tainted?

If you don't understand why Volney being "attacked" then something wrong in your head.  The Appellate panel didn't step outside their roles to compromise a trial... they merely found some b.s. justification for Volney's actions.

it other words, they defending the indefensible and should be chided as well?

Maybe....maybe the whole damn judicial system is a bunch a Volney's waiting to reveal themselves.....look Sammy yuh trying real hard.....yuh is a obvious opposition supporter, but come on nah man, take off yuh blinders for a bit and admit that Kamla make a big mistake in choosing this man....or rather he may have been foisted on her......hhhhhmmmm....

[Bakes]

it other words, they defending the indefensible and should be chided as well?

Fella... their actions weren't nearly as egregious as Volney's.  To top it off, is not them who now have the gall to leave the judiciary and immediately start campaigning for a political position.  If you have some argument to make as to why they're just as bad as Volney then let's hear it.

[truetrini]

well dem were opposition judges mostly anyway...so who knows what de fack was going on..Sharma come CJ after lol

[sammy]

it other words, they defending the indefensible and should be chided as well?

Fella... their actions weren't nearly as egregious as Volney's.  To top it off, is not them who now have the gall to leave the judiciary and immediately start campaigning for a political position.  If you have some argument to make as to why they're just as bad as Volney then let's hear it.

so judges in T&T dont vote and dont hold party cards? whats to say that they are not biased in the first place?
I ask again, how long should he have waited before he ran? Please enlighten me.
Also, have there not been situations like this in the country before thus setting a precedence ?

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Brown sugar, lol i not wearing any blinders. If u saying that due to the negative publicity kamla made a mistake then you could be right but that is left to be seen.

[truetrini]

it other words, they defending the indefensible and should be chided as well?

Fella... their actions weren't nearly as egregious as Volney's.  To top it off, is not them who now have the gall to leave the judiciary and immediately start campaigning for a political position.  If you have some argument to make as to why they're just as bad as Volney then let's hear it.

so judges in T&T dont vote and dont hold party cards? whats to say that they are not biased in the first place?
I ask again, how long should he have waited before he ran? Please enlighten me.
Also, have there not been situations like this in the country before thus setting a precedence ?

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Brown sugar, lol i not wearing any blinders. If u saying that due to the negative publicity kamla made a mistake then you could be right but that is left to be seen.

Yuh real pushing it, de ink wasn't dry and he get nominated, highly inappropriate even Kamla said she should have waited.

[sammy]

it other words, they defending the indefensible and should be chided as well?

Fella... their actions weren't nearly as egregious as Volney's.  To top it off, is not them who now have the gall to leave the judiciary and immediately start campaigning for a political position.  If you have some argument to make as to why they're just as bad as Volney then let's hear it.

so judges in T&T dont vote and dont hold party cards? whats to say that they are not biased in the first place?
I ask again, how long should he have waited before he ran? Please enlighten me.
Also, have there not been situations like this in the country before thus setting a precedence ?

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Brown sugar, lol i not wearing any blinders. If u saying that due to the negative publicity kamla made a mistake then you could be right but that is left to be seen.

Yuh real pushing it, de ink wasn't dry and he get nominated, highly inappropriate even Kamla said she should have waited.

TC, u your self said :

well dem were opposition judges mostly anyway...so who knows what de fack was going on..Sharma come CJ after lol

so what difference does it make if he got nominated right after he resign see that there are impartial judges on the bench?

[Bakes]

so judges in T&T dont vote and dont hold party cards? whats to say that they are not biased in the first place?

of course they do... but they usually don't wear their politics on their sleeves.

I ask again, how long should he have waited before he ran? Please enlighten me.

How long after retiring should football referies wait until they reveal their club allegiances?  Lemme know if yuh confused by the question so that I could point yuh to de explanation.

Also, have there not been situations like this in the country before thus setting a precedence ?

There have??  Can you name another former judge/justice who ran for political office or who endorsed a political party/candidate soon (or even long) after leaving the bench?

so what difference does it make if he got nominated right after he resign see that there are impartial judges on the bench?

The difference is that you call the impartiality of the judiciary into question because it makes it seem as though there was a pre-existing relationship between him and the party he now seeks to represent.  But I already explain all of this... if you didn't find it persuasive then you probably won't now, so I won't waste either of our time.

[sammy]

so judges in T&T dont vote and dont hold party cards? whats to say that they are not biased in the first place?

of course they do... but they usually don't wear their politics on their sleeves.

I ask again, how long should he have waited before he ran? Please enlighten me.

How long after retiring should football referies wait until they reveal their club allegiances?  Lemme know if yuh confused by the question so that I could point yuh to de explanation.

Also, have there not been situations like this in the country before thus setting a precedence ?

There have??  Can you name another former judge/justice who ran for political office or who endorsed a political party/candidate soon (or even long) after leaving the bench?

so what difference does it make if he got nominated right after he resign see that there are impartial judges on the bench?

The difference is that you call the impartiality of the judiciary into question because it makes it seem as though there was a pre-existing relationship between him and the party he now seeks to represent.  But I already explain all of this... if you didn't find it persuasive then you probably won't now, so I won't waste either of our time.

see? all a allyuh saying the man shoudla wait, but no-one willing to tell me how long. lol

[Bourbon]

so judges in T&T dont vote and dont hold party cards? whats to say that they are not biased in the first place?

of course they do... but they usually don't wear their politics on their sleeves.

I ask again, how long should he have waited before he ran? Please enlighten me.

How long after retiring should football referies wait until they reveal their club allegiances?  Lemme know if yuh confused by the question so that I could point yuh to de explanation.

Also, have there not been situations like this in the country before thus setting a precedence ?

There have??  Can you name another former judge/justice who ran for political office or who endorsed a political party/candidate soon (or even long) after leaving the bench?

so what difference does it make if he got nominated right after he resign see that there are impartial judges on the bench?

The difference is that you call the impartiality of the judiciary into question because it makes it seem as though there was a pre-existing relationship between him and the party he now seeks to represent.  But I already explain all of this... if you didn't find it persuasive then you probably won't now, so I won't waste either of our time.

see? all a allyuh saying the man shoudla wait, but no-one willing to tell me how long. lol

Well....i could say 20 minutes probably eh enuff time.

[Bakes]

see? all a allyuh saying the man shoudla wait, but no-one willing to tell me how long. lol

That is because common sense is something you either have or you don't have... others can't share what they have with you.

[sammy]

see? all a allyuh saying the man shoudla wait, but no-one willing to tell me how long. lol

That is because common sense is something you either have or you don't have... others can't share what they have with you.

lol...take win bredda.....he choulda wait some time right? lol ok bright man. u win.....he should wait some time.

[Bakes]

lol...take win bredda.....he choulda wait some time right? lol ok bright man. u win.....he should wait some time.

Is not a matter of being "bright"... if out ah de blue you and yuh wife mash up one day, and next day BAM yuh pick up with ah next woman... yuh doh think that will appear shady to de wife and de casual on-looker?  Whereas if yuh wait fuh some time tuh pass before yuh move in wid de new doolahin it wouldn't look as bad, no? 

It eh have no mathematical formula to tell you how long yuh should wait... that is something common sense should tell you, yuh eh have to be bright to figure dat out.

[truetrini]

lol...take win bredda.....he choulda wait some time right? lol ok bright man. u win.....he should wait some time.

Is not a matter of being "bright"... if out ah de blue you and yuh wife mash up one day, and next day BAM yuh pick up with ah next woman... yuh doh think that will appear shady to de wife and de casual on-looker?  Whereas if yuh wait fuh some time tuh pass before yuh move in wid de new doolahin it wouldn't look as bad, no? 

It eh have no mathematical formula to tell you how long yuh should wait... that is something common sense should tell you, yuh eh have to be bright to figure dat out.

Usa an analogy with ah rotten latrine seat Bakes............he go get dat!

[sammy]

lol...take win bredda.....he choulda wait some time right? lol ok bright man. u win.....he should wait some time.

Is not a matter of being "bright"... if out ah de blue you and yuh wife mash up one day, and next day BAM yuh pick up with ah next woman... yuh doh think that will appear shady to de wife and de casual on-looker?  Whereas if yuh wait fuh some time tuh pass before yuh move in wid de new doolahin it wouldn't look as bad, no? 

It eh have no mathematical formula to tell you how long yuh should wait... that is something common sense should tell you, yuh eh have to be bright to figure dat out.

how u think it would appear to the outside woman and she chirren and all who think they might have a chance to benfit from it? would they care? 

[Bakes]

how u think it would appear to the outside woman and she chirren and all who think they might have a chance to benfit from it? would they care? 

I guess that's where you and the rest of us disagree... you putting de interests of de outside woman and she chirren over the interests of yuh marri'd wife.  Just as Volney putting his own selfish political aspirations over the reputation of the judiciary.  To each his own.

[sammy]

how u think it would appear to the outside woman and she chirren and all who think they might have a chance to benfit from it? would they care? 

I guess that's where you and the rest of us disagree... you putting de interests of de outside woman and she chirren over the interests of yuh marri'd wife.  Just as Volney putting his own selfish political aspirations over the reputation of the judiciary.  To each his own.

the reputation of the judiciary is already of biased.

well dem were opposition judges mostly anyway...so who knows what de fack was going on..Sharma come CJ after lol

[truetrini]

how u think it would appear to the outside woman and she chirren and all who think they might have a chance to benfit from it? would they care? 

I guess that's where you and the rest of us disagree... you putting de interests of de outside woman and she chirren over the interests of yuh marri'd wife.  Just as Volney putting his own selfish political aspirations over the reputation of the judiciary.  To each his own.

the reputation of the judiciary is already of biased.

well dem were opposition judges mostly anyway...so who knows what de fack was going on..Sharma come CJ after lol

They were appointed by the then government and after losing to PNm..what de f**k I trying to explain to you, yuh done decide already..why de facking debate?

[sammy]

how u think it would appear to the outside woman and she chirren and all who think they might have a chance to benfit from it? would they care? 

I guess that's where you and the rest of us disagree... you putting de interests of de outside woman and she chirren over the interests of yuh marri'd wife.  Just as Volney putting his own selfish political aspirations over the reputation of the judiciary.  To each his own.

the reputation of the judiciary is already of biased.

well dem were opposition judges mostly anyway...so who knows what de fack was going on..Sharma come CJ after lol

They were appointed by the then government and after losing to PNm..what de f**k I trying to explain to you, yuh done decide already..why de facking debate?

all i simply trying to show allyuh that u cant get away from the fact that all of them politically link one way or the other no matter what - daiz all.

[truetrini]

how u think it would appear to the outside woman and she chirren and all who think they might have a chance to benfit from it? would they care? 

I guess that's where you and the rest of us disagree... you putting de interests of de outside woman and she chirren over the interests of yuh marri'd wife.  Just as Volney putting his own selfish political aspirations over the reputation of the judiciary.  To each his own.

the reputation of the judiciary is already of biased.

well dem were opposition judges mostly anyway...so who knows what de fack was going on..Sharma come CJ after lol

They were appointed by the then government and after losing to PNm..what de f**k I trying to explain to you, yuh done decide already..why de facking debate?

all i simply trying to show allyuh that u cant get away from the fact that all of them politically link one way or the other no matter what - daiz all.

errrr...everyone has already accepted that FACT!

[NYtriniwhiteboy..]

It real interesting that ah man who's name is becomming an electoral 'issue'....must be limin on bondi beach blissfully unaware that it even have elections in trinidad

if yuh mean boyce he right in trini...he only left for a couple years following the trial

[truetrini]

It real interesting that ah man who's name is becomming an electoral 'issue'....must be limin on bondi beach blissfully unaware that it even have elections in trinidad

if yuh mean boyce he right in trini...he only left for a couple years following the trial

eh heh?  Papers and everyone saying he resides in Australia still.

[NYtriniwhiteboy..]

he went aussie for a lil while..but that was not where he was based for long..he back in trini for couple years now

[Babalawo]

I see he put up a patch up website to clean up his PR.. lol That American stratagist aint know the man on the street don't be on the internet. Is mostly the foreign Trinis.

[sammy]

he went aussie for a lil while..but that was not where he was based for long..he back in trini for couple years now

hmmm....

cant we use dna or something to re-open this case and convict?