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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #960 on: September 10, 2015, 08:48:49 PM »
This probably means that PNM voters in the PNM strongholds came out and voted in much higher numbers than usual.

Normally PNM stronghold voters average around a 50% turnout while UNC stronghold voters average a 75% turnout but I suspect that for these 2015 elections the PNM stronghold voters averaged at least a 70% turnout meaning that finally young Black people in PNM stronghold areas like Laventille came out in high numbers to vote.
Not really. The bottom 10 constituencies in turnout were once again most PNM strongholds. Total turnout was 66.84%, but Laventille's were 55-56%. Up from the last 2 elections, but less than 2002 and still less than average. Only 2 of the bottom 10 constituences had a 60% or higher turnout.

One noticeable thing is that UNC strongholds, while still above average, weren't as high as in prior years. Seems like a combination of higher than recent (i.e. last two elections) voting in PNM strongholds and lower than recent voting in UNC strongholds helped the PNM win the popular vote.

Still, this election follows the trend for the last few decades where PNM strongholds don't vote at national averages.

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #961 on: September 10, 2015, 09:00:18 PM »
This probably means that PNM voters in the PNM strongholds came out and voted in much higher numbers than usual.

Normally PNM stronghold voters average around a 50% turnout while UNC stronghold voters average a 75% turnout but I suspect that for these 2015 elections the PNM stronghold voters averaged at least a 70% turnout meaning that finally young Black people in PNM stronghold areas like Laventille came out in high numbers to vote.
Not really. The bottom 10 constituencies in turnout were once again most PNM strongholds. Total turnout was 66.84%, but Laventille's were 55-56%. Up from the last 2 elections, but less than 2002 and still less than average. Only 2 of the bottom 10 constituences had a 60% or higher turnout.

One noticeable thing is that UNC strongholds, while still above average, weren't as high as in prior years. Seems like a combination of higher than recent (i.e. last two elections) voting in PNM strongholds and lower than recent voting in UNC strongholds helped the PNM win the popular vote.

Still, this election follows the trend for the last few decades where PNM strongholds don't vote at national averages.

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Note I did make that speculative post before the official EBC figures just above were published.
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #962 on: September 10, 2015, 09:07:39 PM »
On the topic of Sancho.....ah still waiting to see how much he lost by.  Initial figures shows it wasn't a blow out but still...... :whip: :whip: :flamethrower:

Damn arse!!  Yuh want to sell out.....go ahead.  The people aren't fools.....

I believe that Sancho lost to Glenda Jennings-Smith the PNM candidate for Toco/Sangre Grande by 2,365 votes.

Glenda Jennings-Smith polled 9,214 votes for the PNM while Sancho polled 6,849 votes for the UNC.

Go here for details: http://www.elections.tt/

I've been avoiding using these figures being bandied about because they are not OFFICIAL EBC figures.  I heard on I95.5fm earlier that the official figures were out but I'm not seeing anything on the EBC website.....

Based on the Official EBC figures just released Sancho got a sound enough beating from PNM candidate Glenda Jennings-Smith in Toco/Sangre Grande!  :)

Glenda polled 12,005 votes for the PNM while Sancho polled 8,101 votes for the UNC which is a defeat by 3,904 votes so thats almost a 4,000 votes defeat that Sancho suffered.  :beermug:
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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #963 on: September 10, 2015, 11:47:16 PM »
Making good elections better
Express editorial


Despite the intensity of the election campaign, Trinidad and Tobago has once again delivered such a smooth transition from one government to another that even foreign observers were moved to applaud. For this, everyone should take a bow.

The Caricom observer mission headed by Orette Fisher, and the Commonwealth Group led by Sir Paul Tovua, both signed off on the results, expressing praise for this country’s electoral arrangements. The Caricom observer team also concluded that Monday’s outcome “reflects the will of the people of T&T”.

Amid the widespread negative views about the performance of State institutions, the Elections and Boundaries Commission (EBC), charged with upholding democratic principle and practice, observably delivered on its mandate. The voting and related exercises met the objective criteria of visiting missions, while gaining the approval of local observers and election participants.

Election 2015 has, however, raised a few new issues and challenges that demand attention. In particular, the impact of new communication technology which has all but nullified the architecture of regulation designed to depoliticise the voting process. Text messaging, social media commentary and advertising all challenge existing regulations. Also, despite the EBC’s advisory against cell phones in the voting booth, several persons reported seeing no appropriate arrangements at polling stations and, in fact, some even claimed to have carried their phones into the booth. Photos of ballots were actually posted online although it is not clear whether these were real or fake. Social media is proving to be a challenge not only for Trinidad and Tobago but the world over. It openly defies the old information order and forces everyone to re-think their assumptions about information control and public behaviour.

Before the election focus shifts, however, all parties should take the opportunity to reckon with and rectify the question of campaign financing. Allegations of influence peddling in high office have now become commonplace. Political investors are known to engage in open horse-trading with politicians. Unless T&T finds a way to unhook the sticky fingers of political investors from government, the citizen’s power and role in the political process will quickly diminish and the electorate will be relegated to the status of rubber-stamping the representatives of special interests.

Campaign finance reform is thus an urgent item that must get onto Parliament’s legislative agenda before the next election. The public will expect both the Government and Opposition to keep their promise to promote and back it.

On the upside, one of the outstanding positives noted in Campaign 2015 was the high level of public engagement in the issues. Through a multitude of social media groups, members of the public tackled everything from politicians’ private lives to their public agendas. They also policed the electoral process and created solidarities of support against the occasional ugliness that was spewed by extremists.
However, even as technology continues to change the parameters of politics, Trinidad and Tobago succeeded in keeping its aplomb while changing governments.

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #964 on: September 11, 2015, 07:09:53 AM »
I am not an attorney and do not pretend to be one, but even in my layman's eyes, Mrs. Persad-Bissessar and co. do not have a case even on the basis of elementary logic and reasoning.

As many other on here have pointed on here (and indeed across the whole country), who on earth could the Partnership have ascertained whether or not it was ahead in the vote count at 6:00pm on Monday 7th September?

In its hot and sweaty haste to create mischief and potentially undermine the new government, the Partnership does not seem to realize that it has just opened itself up to a very troubling line of questioning. If it was aware of the vote tally at 6:00pm, then the question of fraudulent activity in the elections becomes a real possibility.

Also, the Partnership appears to have accepted the EBC's ruling when it was initially announced and is only now belatedly making this challenge.

Goodness grief...

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« Reply #965 on: September 11, 2015, 12:19:22 PM »
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TWO days after losing Monday’s general election, former prime minister Kamla Persad- Bissessar yesterday officially congratulated new Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley and the incoming People’s National Movement (PNM).
Her congratulations to Rowley, who is also PNM political leader and Diego Martin West MP, came hours after Rowley took the oath of office at Queens Hall in St Ann’s, and hours before she looked set to be made the new Opposition Leader after her party resolved that she remain as its political leader.
Speaking with Newsday, Persad-Bissessar said, “I congratulate the new Prime Minister and the new government.” Persad-Bissessar, who is also United National Congress (UNC) political leader and Siparia MP, said the new focus of the People’s Partnership (PP) coalition is rebuilding and re branding itself as a “viable Opposition” in the 11th Parliament which is expected to be convened soon.

https://www.facebook.com/UNC-United-National-Congress-106385386218744/timeline/

That was from the UNC facebook page. That seems to me as accepting the results, which is contrary to other releases about contesting the results. It's tough to keep up with what they're doing.

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #966 on: September 11, 2015, 07:43:59 PM »
not that last couple tho Pro...only thing them spewing at each other is sweet nothings in each other's ear ;D

If he want to keep he sweet wife happy he go spew more than nothings in she ears

a couple pearl earrings is ah start
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« Reply #967 on: September 11, 2015, 07:55:48 PM »
don't read too much into this, it was simply a passing comment.
maybe what i intended to convey was your anti rowley sentiments and concurrence with that ultra dud called controversial.
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TT,,... dais you!?!?


Nevertheless, I am simply elated that yet another democratic transition has taken place without any violence.
Moreso, without any trickery and legal 'blackholes' that require international monitors to come and watch we like lil chirren

It have big countries that could learn from Trinbago

I proud too bad of the people of T&T

Okay, so whey allyuh think is the  first setta tings should be done

Tamp down significantly on crime? ('cause in reality only a Saddam type dictatorship can truly eliminate it)
Expose Dana Seetahal and Selwyn Richardson murderers?
Sen Jack, Ish and Steve in dey plane rides?
More Jump and wave celebrations in Manzanilla?
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« Reply #968 on: September 12, 2015, 09:21:32 AM »
Okay, so whey allyuh think is the  first setta tings should be done

Tamp down significantly on crime? ('cause in reality only a Saddam type dictatorship can truly eliminate it)
Expose Dana Seetahal and Selwyn Richardson murderers?
Sen Jack, Ish and Steve in dey plane rides?
More Jump and wave celebrations in Manzanilla?
#1 priority should be the economy. We need a plan and contingencies in case this low oil price ends up lasting for a long period of time.

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« Reply #969 on: September 12, 2015, 09:37:15 AM »
We need transparency with respect to the budget ... to assess how to plot the course. Once the sitting Minister convenes with the outgoing Minister, and with the PS and staffers, a clear  policy prescription is expected to be tabled.

Unfortunately, T&T is not an environment in which economic stability necessarily drives diminution in the criminal economy.

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« Reply #970 on: September 12, 2015, 09:57:35 AM »
Okay, so whey allyuh think is the  first setta tings should be done

Tamp down significantly on crime? ('cause in reality only a Saddam type dictatorship can truly eliminate it)
Expose Dana Seetahal and Selwyn Richardson murderers?
Sen Jack, Ish and Steve in dey plane rides?
More Jump and wave celebrations in Manzanilla?
#1 priority should be the economy. We need a plan and contingencies in case this low oil price ends up lasting for a long period of time.

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« Reply #971 on: September 12, 2015, 11:43:41 AM »
I would suggest some folks in this thread pause, read this article, and reflect:

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http://m.guardian.co.tt/columnist/2015-09-12/heart-darkness

Heart of darkness

Paolo Kernahan

Published: Saturday, September 12, 2015

All Indian is scyaaamp and drunkards, black people lazy or dem is bandit, see-reean is bandit in suit, de Whiteman is ah oppressor from colonial days (and should jess hush he mout), chinee only like money and dog.

If we are honest with ourselves, the racial stereotypes listed above are very familiar to us, or have even crossed our own lips at some time or another.

Elections 2015 opened a fissure, exposing the dark heart of racism, prejudice and negativity that pumps hatred through the veins of this nation.

That people were surprised by all the nastiness, points to either a well-nurtured naiveté or garden variety stupidity.

We are masters of pretence, masking our foibles with the pantomime of mirth, conviviality and plastic unity.

I recall my time in the media when every state function was opened with performances by the Shiv Shakti Dancers and the Malick Folk Performers. Representatives of the two major races revelled in cultural expression together on the same stage!

Then, attendees would have to sit down, then stand up, then sit down again as Pundit, Imam, Bahai, Pastor, “Seven-days” delivered interminable blessings.

This flimsy charade neatly encapsulates our attitude towards race relations. We bury our heads (not in the sand though) and pretend that we are a melting pot nation, a diverse mix of races and cultures all living in harmony. This…is…garbage.

Facebook, in the aftermath of the elections, became an environment of unfathomable toxicity.

Even as Dr Keith Rowley delivered a particularly-gracious victory speech, designed to assuage the hostilities of the elections, to wake people to the reality that we must all live and work together, the mob on the ground had different ideas.

Political zealots surged at the fences, hurling putrid abuse at the former Prime Minister, cavalierly condemning this woman as a creature of loose morals, a hyper-charged libido and an agent of iniquity.

For their part, the UNC supporters, wounded in defeat, mounted their own racist offensive. The party’s page was transformed into an unofficial, smouldering hate group.

The comments laid bare a society unbound by conventions of civility and grace.

One common incendiary notion is that “Africans” are intellectually inferior and, as such, are ill-suited to a leadership role in the society.

This warped ideology in turn had the effect of attracting PNM supporters to the page. Spoiling for a fight, they deposited their own racist posts. What was remarkable is that the anti-racists are blind to their own racism.

One post read “all of those nasty comments on the UNC’s Facebook page, the only cure for that is Lanate.”

That person couldn’t appreciate that he was guilty of the same offence the post was meant to repudiate.

Elsewhere, a video surfaced of some men attempting to burn, an apparently fire-proof UNC jersey. The video was peppered with guttural obscenities and racist remarks.

Others, who felt themselves above the fray, also contributed to the noxious atmosphere. It was widely suggested, by many people from whom I expected better, that those who didn’t vote for the PNM, are on the side of immorality. Invoking the name of Jesus (in Jesus name!) as the weak-minded are often wont to do, PNM supporters posit that Dr Keith Rowley’s victory at the polls was somehow ordained by God; he was sent from up above to rid this country of the wicked UNC/Hindu government…In Jesus name, H.I.M.

Thus, you have introduced into the equation the ethos of good versus evil.

No platform for unity can be built on nakedly inferred religious intolerance.

But calls for “unity” among citizens are an illusion.

What we truly want is acquiescence. In 2010 and now, hush yuh mout’ we time now!

Additionally, it was laughable to read puerile quips about East Indians with respect to alcohol. We are in fact a nation of drinkers so that is just the pot calling the kettle Indian.

Quibbling over who drinks more than whom is practised obfuscation.

We blame our politicians for fomenting racial and other varieties of hatred but politicians merely exploit the hate resident in the hearts of our people.

Facebook was a snapshot of a pervasive scourge in society. Anyone who believes that the post-elections vitriol was restricted to social media, is either a fool, a liar or both.

Hatred in the heart is difficult, if not impossible to expunge. Older generations are lost to this pernicious affliction.

We must inoculate our children against the heredity of racial hatred and mistrust.

There ought to be an aggressive and sustained education campaign to teach our children about appreciation for cultural differences.

Modules must be introduced in our schools to programme future generations with an understanding of cultural diversity in T&T.

They must be given the mental software to counteract the hatred encoded in our national DNA.

Many will deny it, but both sides of the political divide were guilty of great atrocities.

Trinis love to say: “One love, we all have to live here.”

Of course, we all have to live together but, as this week aptly demonstrated, we don’t have to like it.

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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #972 on: September 12, 2015, 11:56:35 AM »


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Re: T&T 2015 General Elections Thread
« Reply #973 on: September 12, 2015, 02:20:59 PM »
On the topic of Sancho.....ah still waiting to see how much he lost by.  Initial figures shows it wasn't a blow out but still...... :whip: :whip: :flamethrower:

Damn arse!!  Yuh want to sell out.....go ahead.  The people aren't fools.....

I believe that Sancho lost to Glenda Jennings-Smith the PNM candidate for Toco/Sangre Grande by 2,365 votes.

Glenda Jennings-Smith polled 9,214 votes for the PNM while Sancho polled 6,849 votes for the UNC.

Go here for details: http://www.elections.tt/

I've been avoiding using these figures being bandied about because they are not OFFICIAL EBC figures.  I heard on I95.5fm earlier that the official figures were out but I'm not seeing anything on the EBC website.....

Based on the Official EBC figures just released Sancho got a sound enough beating from PNM candidate Glenda Jennings-Smith in Toco/Sangre Grande!  :)

Glenda polled 12,005 votes for the PNM while Sancho polled 8,101 votes for the UNC which is a defeat by 3,904 votes so thats almost a 4,000 votes defeat that Sancho suffered.  :beermug:

 :cheers: :cheers: :party: :wavetowel: :flamethrower: :applause: :applause:

I always counted Toco/Sande Grande in my list of seats for the PNM before the election, I just wanted to win to be big......bye, bye Sancho, bye, bye......You should have enough SIS money to keep you nice and tidy for a while......
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« Reply #974 on: September 12, 2015, 09:49:37 PM »
In less than a week the UNC Facebook page has degenerated from a well organized Supports group to nothing more than a hate group. :(

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« Reply #975 on: September 12, 2015, 10:45:27 PM »
In less than a week the UNC Facebook page has degenerated from a well organized Supports group to nothing more than a hate group. :(

I think it is good when folks show their true colours so we know what to expect if we ever put God out of our minds and vote their party back into power again in the futture.  :beermug:
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Work begins for PNM Govt —and PP Opposition
« Reply #976 on: September 12, 2015, 11:22:08 PM »
Work begins for PNM Govt —and PP Opposition
By Gail Alexander (T&T Guardian)
Published: Saturday, September 12, 2015


Gail Alexander

For 378,447 new reasons—which PNM obtained last Monday—T&T has seen a more relaxed Keith Rowley.

The confidence which thousands reposed in Rowley in Monday’s general election made him comfortable enough at yesterday’s swearing-in of his new Cabinet at Queen’s Hall, to share details of how he’d once stood on that same stage to participate in a student forum and froze, unable to speak.

Rowley whose journey from dumbstruck student at Queen’s Hall to being made Prime Minister at that same venue was paid in fitting musical tribute at Wednesday’s swearing-in function via rendition of The Impossible Dream. Some of the sentiments which his journey may have evoked has therefore cropped up in the immediate statesman’s note of his maiden speech on victory night.

That has set the tenor for his tenure and will be held up if his government strays from such tenets. Indeed, as MSJ leader David Abdulah said post-swearing-in, the administration will hardly have any “honeymoon.” This, given demands presented by the country, various groups including labour and supporters, some of whom may not have properly heeded—over Monday’s celebratory strains—Rowley’s warnings of difficult times ahead.

Rowley has so far made efforts to redirect the energy flow from election fervour to settling down, reaching out to non-PNMites and assuring equity. How the Government—comprising seven experienced people in a Cabinet of 21—makes good on its mandate, his statements and enacts further, still necessary, healing remains to unfold.

The PNM Government will be hamstrung on special majority legislation. Parliament confirmed its 23 seats will only be enough to pass simple majority bills. This, unless Rowley secures the assistance of incoming Opposition Leader—which it’s confirmed will be—Kamla Persad-Bissessar’s team.

PNM’s victory has elicited deep chagrin for the PP, particularly loss of St Joseph, Toco/Manzanilla and La Horquetta on which it had banked, and Moruga, a huge surprise since candidate Clifton de Coteau had been allowed to contest on the basis of strong support. But De Coteau’s 10,275 votes were closely pipped by PNM’s Lovelle Francis’ 10,808.

PNM’s Andre Monteil, keeping his vow to bring home Moruga to honour late colleague Martin Joseph—whose plan projected PNM’s 23 seat win-says ex-UNC MP Winston Peters assisted him. Apart from campaign manager Rohan Sinanan, PNMites also praise Jacquie Lazarus—Rowley’s DM West ops head of many years—for copping the marginals.

Jack Warner, losing the election battle, won his war with the PP, the campaign fall-out of which may have benefitted the PNM. His fate with his US case remains to unfold under new PNM Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi.

For the regrouping PP, challenges ahead include the COP’s future, after most COP candidates got half (or less) of respective winners’ votes and ex-COP member, St Augustine challenger Nalini Dial got half of COP leader Prakash Ramadhar’s 12,606 votes.

Challenges remain for Persad- Bissessar’s leadership, particularly following her non-appearance at UNC’s Rienzi Complex following Monday’s defeat. While obviously upset, leadership would have demanded shelving of emotion in favour of comforting supporters who needed it in the face of the stunning defeat.

She may also be looked askance since PP’s campaign based on “Kamla 2015” failed to resonate with all of T&T. Nor will five elections which the PP has lost under her leadership stand her in good stead as a future political option, unless the PP finds a way of recovering lost gloss.

While her stocks are strong with heartland support, the East-West corridor rode a “wave” back to PNM as it did against it in 2010. PP’s first job with its time in Opposition (as the PNM did) is implementation of infrastructure and necessary work to hold its turf and woo non-traditional areas without depending on PNM flubbing. Indeed UNC’s Fuad Khan narrowly held San Juan Barataria with 8,733 votes to Hafeez Ali’s 8,182. UNC’s St Joseph and Toco hopes, Vasant Bharath and Brent Sancho also fell by 2,000 odd votes to PNM’s winners there.

Immediately, UNC/COP which hasn’t an Opposition whip, begins from Tuesday planning 2016 budget responses and for UNC’s leadership elections, due within two months.
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New ministers sworn in
« Reply #977 on: September 13, 2015, 12:08:43 AM »
New ministers sworn in
By Rachael Espinet (T&T Guardian)
Published: Friday, September 11, 2015


Prime Minisiter Dr Keith Rowley delivering his speech at the oath taking of the new Government Cabinet. Photo: Khamal Georges

Twenty-one new Government Ministers and one Parliament Secretary were sworn into office this morning as the new Cabinet for People’s National Movement administration.

Out of these 22 appointments, there were six Senatorial appointments.

The swearing in ceremony for the new Cabinet took place at Queen’s Hall, St Ann’s before President Anthony Carmona.

Prime Minister, Dr Keith Rowley said he is taking personal responsibility for the new Cabinet.

“We are here to serve all the people of Trinidad and Tobago, and as Prime Minister of this country, I intend to hold every single one of them to the oath of office,” Rowley said.

Rowley noted that a number of the people he appointed to the Cabinet reinforces his commitments to give young people a prominent place in the Government.

“We have put the affairs of the state in the hands of the young people of Trinidad and Tobago," he said.

Rowley then called on citizens to adopt a spirit of volunteerism where people willingly give back to the country.

“I want to appeal to the nation to bring back a sense of volunteerism...Not everything you do should carry a pay cheque. Let us get rid of the gimme gimme attitude. Let us be confident that what we have done in the dark can be defended in the light,” Rowley said.

On Wednesday, Rowley, Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi and Minister of National Security retired Major General Edmund Dillon were sworn into office. The Cabinet will comprise of 23 members.

Other successful candidates, Glenda Jennings-Smith, Esmond Forde, Adrian Leonce and Dr Lovell Francis did not get any Cabinet positions.

The following is a list of the new government Cabinet:

1.    Senator Clarence Rambharat, Minister of Agriculture and Land Resources


 2.    MP Stuart Young, Minister in the Office of Attorney General and Legal Affairs


3.    MP Maxie Cuffie, Minister of Communications


4.    MP Nyan Gadsby-Dolly, Minister of Community, Culture and the Arts


5.    MP Anthony Garcia, Minister of Education


6.    MP Nicole Olivierre, Minister of Energy and Energy Affairs


7.    MP Colm Imbert, Minister of Finance


8.    Senator Dennis Moses, Minister of Caricom and Foreign Affairs


9.    MP Terrence Deyalsingh, Minister of Health


10.    MP Marlene McDonald, Minister of Housing and Urban Development


11.  Senator Jennifer Baptiste-Primus, Minster of Labour and Small Enterprises Development


12.  MP Camille Robinson-Regis, Minister of Planning and Sustainable Development


13.  MP Randall Mitchell, Minister of Public Administration


14.    MP Ancil Antoine, Minister of Public Utilities


15.  Senator Franklin Khan, Minister of Rural Development and Local Government


16.  MP Cherrie-Ann Crichlow-Cockburn, Minister of Social Development and Family Services


17.  MP Darryl Smith, Minister of Sport and Youth Affairs

       
18.  MP Shamfa Cudjoe, Minister of Tourism


19.    Senator Paula Gopee-Scoon, Minister of Trade and Industry
     
   
20.     MP Fitzgerald Hinds, Minister of Works and Transport
     

21.  MP Ayanna Webster Roy, Minister in the Office of the Prime Minister
       

22.  Senator Avinash Singh, Parliament Secretary in the Ministry of Agriculture
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EBC: PNM won popular vote
« Reply #978 on: September 15, 2015, 07:01:56 PM »
EBC: PNM won popular vote
By Jensen La Vende (T&T Guardian)
Published: Friday, September 11, 2015


Despite the claim that the People's Partnership received the popular vote, statistics from Elections and Boundaries Commission (EBC) state it was the winning party the People's National Movement which received that prize.

During her concession speech on election night former prime minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar said the People's Partnership, which comprises the United National Congress (UNC), Congress of the People (COP), Tobago Organisation of the People (TOP) and the National Joint Action Committee (NJAC), won the popular vote.

But according to the EBC yesterday of the 1,099,279 eligible voters, 734,792 voted which represented 66.84 per cent of the eligible voters.

Of those who voted 2,452 ballots had to be rejected. The PNM got a total of 378,447 votes to take 51.68 per cent of the voters. The runner-up, the UNC, got 290,066 votes or 39.61 per cent. The People's Partnership received a total of 46.65 per cent of the votes.

Independent Liberal Party (ILP) won 5,123 votes while the COP won 6.01 per cent or 43,991 votes.

PNM candidate for Arouca/Maloney Camile Robinson-Regis won the most votes overall with 14,843 out of 18,200 valid votes cast.

The highest number of eligible voters came from the constituency of Moruga/Tableland with 21,132 valid votes. That seat was won by PNM's Dr Lovell Francis.

Of the leaders of the two major political parties, UNC and PNM, Persad-Bissessar won 14,896 votes of the 19,651 valid votes while Dr Keith Rowley won 12,855 of the 16,907 valid votes.
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« Reply #979 on: September 15, 2015, 07:32:32 PM »
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PNM candidate for Arouca/Maloney Camile Robinson-Regis won the most votes overall with 14,843 out of 18,200 valid votes cast.

The highest number of eligible voters came from the constituency of Moruga/Tableland with 21,132 valid votes. That seat was won by PNM's Dr Lovell Francis.

Of the leaders of the two major political parties, UNC and PNM, Persad-Bissessar won 14,896 votes of the 19,651 valid votes while Dr Keith Rowley won 12,855 of the 16,907 valid votes.

Most votes overall? Percentage wise?!? Maybe that's what is meant?.?

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« Reply #980 on: September 15, 2015, 07:48:28 PM »

1.    Senator Clarence Rambharat, Minister of Agriculture and Land Resources


Haven't always agreed with everything he wrote, but I found his columns to be intelligent, on point... and above all else very fair.  Never had an inkling that he was pro-PNM until his candidacy was leaked on Facebook.  He a very smart fella who gave up a lucrative career in Canada to come back home and heed the call of service in his native Mayaro community.


6.    MP Nicole Olivierre, Minister of Energy and Energy Affairs


What's the scoop on her... anybody know?  Energy is a very important portfolio and we need somebody with vision running this.  I know Kevin Ramnarine from primary school days, we ere in class together up until Common Entrants when it was discovered he was too young to sit with us... his mother taught both of us.  On the strength of that I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but while there's nothing I could really blame him for, I don't see anything I could credit him for either.  5 years went by with nary a public comment... not what we need when energy production is our main natural resource.


7.    MP Colm Imbert, Minister of Finance


As an individual, this man has the personality of the south end of a horse facing north.  Thin-skinned and crotchety for no reason, the polar opposite of the temperance one should exhibit when in public office.  That being said, he too is a smart fella and I believe that his actual service in public office has been commendable.  Now as for what ca a civil engineer could bring to the portfolio of finance... that is anyone's guess.


17.  MP Darryl Smith, Minister of Sport and Youth Affairs


What part of a football this man ever see?  Kidding, not the most important portfolio, but one which enjoys a high profile.  He has quite a task at hand in dealing with all the various sporting bodies, not the least of which being the TTFA.  Hopefully the two bodies can now find a way to mutually seek the best interest of local football.

       
18.  MP Shamfa Cudjoe, Minister of Tourism


Rising f**king star!  Nuff said.


19.    Senator Paula Gopee-Scoon, Minister of Trade and Industry
     

Supposedly she son plays soccer for Princeton... ent figure out who yet, though.  Great school, good program.  

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« Reply #981 on: September 16, 2015, 01:20:23 AM »
i am hearing all kinds of irrelevant things but what i am not hearing is whether or not kamla conceded in terms of "did she drop the inquiry into the elections going one extra hour, or is she still going through with it?"

i think it's very disrespectful to the nation that she didn't make an official speech saying that she has accepted defeat and will not further pursue the court proceedings in regard to the legitimacy of the election results. honestly i think the actions of this lady it is my sincere opinion that she is petty and void of class, specifically to concede on social media especial when she has access to so many mainstream media outlets.

does this speech amount to the fact that she's done/ through /over with the inquiry into the election legitimacy or not?

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« Reply #982 on: September 16, 2015, 06:29:31 AM »
i am hearing all kinds of irrelevant things but what i am not hearing is whether or not kamla conceded in terms of "did she drop the inquiry into the elections going one extra hour, or is she still going through with it?"

i think it's very disrespectful to the nation that she didn't make an official speech saying that she has accepted defeat and will not further pursue the court proceedings in regard to the legitimacy of the election results. honestly i think the actions of this lady it is my sincere opinion that she is petty and void of class, specifically to concede on social media especial when she has access to so many mainstream media outlets.

does this speech amount to the fact that she's done/ through /over with the inquiry into the election legitimacy or not?

That is precisely the question. How can Mrs. Persad-Bissessar concede for the second time on facebook and then have the UNC legal team go ahead with its challenge of the election results on the grounds of the EBC's extension of the polling division close times?

Isn't she an attorney? Can she not see the inherent contradiction in her public statements and actions?

I fear that she is becoming mentally unstable.

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« Reply #983 on: September 16, 2015, 02:49:25 PM »
i am hearing all kinds of irrelevant things but what i am not hearing is whether or not kamla conceded in terms of "did she drop the inquiry into the elections going one extra hour, or is she still going through with it?"

i think it's very disrespectful to the nation that she didn't make an official speech saying that she has accepted defeat and will not further pursue the court proceedings in regard to the legitimacy of the election results. honestly i think the actions of this lady it is my sincere opinion that she is petty and void of class, specifically to concede on social media especial when she has access to so many mainstream media outlets.

does this speech amount to the fact that she's done/ through /over with the inquiry into the election legitimacy or not?

That is precisely the question. How can Mrs. Persad-Bissessar concede for the second time on facebook and then have the UNC legal team go ahead with its challenge of the election results on the grounds of the EBC's extension of the polling division close times?

Isn't she an attorney? Can she not see the inherent contradiction in her public statements and actions?

I fear that she is becoming mentally unstable.
yup, i watch the news this morning on line and saw where she is still going through with the inquiry in court with her legal team. i believe that this is very dangerous for the country and she may cause serious discord in the nation amongst the population. this woman is now acting like a person who have something very much so to hide and is fearful of an indictment, and what's worst is that she actually doesn't have one person on her team who could reach out to her and tell her that she is being ridiculous and harmful to the nation, and this kind of behavior is scary and indicative of someone who has dictatorial ambitions. this is not good.

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« Reply #984 on: September 16, 2015, 02:59:41 PM »
i am hearing all kinds of irrelevant things but what i am not hearing is whether or not kamla conceded in terms of "did she drop the inquiry into the elections going one extra hour, or is she still going through with it?"

i think it's very disrespectful to the nation that she didn't make an official speech saying that she has accepted defeat and will not further pursue the court proceedings in regard to the legitimacy of the election results. honestly i think the actions of this lady it is my sincere opinion that she is petty and void of class, specifically to concede on social media especial when she has access to so many mainstream media outlets.

does this speech amount to the fact that she's done/ through /over with the inquiry into the election legitimacy or not?

That is precisely the question. How can Mrs. Persad-Bissessar concede for the second time on facebook and then have the UNC legal team go ahead with its challenge of the election results on the grounds of the EBC's extension of the polling division close times?

Isn't she an attorney? Can she not see the inherent contradiction in her public statements and actions?

I fear that she is becoming mentally unstable.
yup, i watch the news this morning on line and saw where she is still going through with the inquiry in court with her legal team. i believe that this is very dangerous for the country and she may cause serious discord in the nation amongst the population. this woman is now acting like a person who have something very much so to hide and is fearful of an indictment, and what's worst is that she actually doesn't have one person on her team who could reach out to her and tell her that she is being ridiculous and harmful to the nation, and this kind of behavior is scary and indicative of someone who has dictatorial ambitions. this is not good.

Just remember that Kamla said if her party don't win the elections there will be blood in the streets.

I think she should take 100% blame for all the racist statements that many of her party supporters have been spewing on social media since her party lost the elections.
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« Reply #985 on: September 16, 2015, 03:13:27 PM »
i am hearing all kinds of irrelevant things but what i am not hearing is whether or not kamla conceded in terms of "did she drop the inquiry into the elections going one extra hour, or is she still going through with it?"

i think it's very disrespectful to the nation that she didn't make an official speech saying that she has accepted defeat and will not further pursue the court proceedings in regard to the legitimacy of the election results. honestly i think the actions of this lady it is my sincere opinion that she is petty and void of class, specifically to concede on social media especial when she has access to so many mainstream media outlets.

does this speech amount to the fact that she's done/ through /over with the inquiry into the election legitimacy or not?

That is precisely the question. How can Mrs. Persad-Bissessar concede for the second time on facebook and then have the UNC legal team go ahead with its challenge of the election results on the grounds of the EBC's extension of the polling division close times?

Isn't she an attorney? Can she not see the inherent contradiction in her public statements and actions?

I fear that she is becoming mentally unstable.
yup, i watch the news this morning on line and saw where she is still going through with the inquiry in court with her legal team. i believe that this is very dangerous for the country and she may cause serious discord in the nation amongst the population. this woman is now acting like a person who have something very much so to hide and is fearful of an indictment, and what's worst is that she actually doesn't have one person on her team who could reach out to her and tell her that she is being ridiculous and harmful to the nation, and this kind of behavior is scary and indicative of someone who has dictatorial ambitions. this is not good.

Just remember that Kamla said if her party don't win the elections there will be blood in the streets.

I think she should take 100% blame for all the racist statements that many of her party supporters have been spewing on social media since her party lost the elections.
did she really say that? wow that is extremely irresponsible for a democratic leader to relay unto her supporters. it would be nice to actually see this party dismantled and disbanded like so many other political parties that existed in trinidad and tobago in the past. we don't need these kinds of miscreants in leadership positions in our nation's highest offices.

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« Reply #987 on: September 18, 2015, 06:26:00 PM »
Not surprisingly for me. Just after somebody went to town with a speech about the need for " common sense ".

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« Reply #988 on: September 18, 2015, 06:51:41 PM »
I believe the UNC executive knows very well they have little to no chance of winning this fight in court. This is a move to rally their base support. If they can have their supporters believe the election was stolen this will keep their supporters behind the call of the rising sun and add more hatred fuel towards the PNM

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« Reply #989 on: September 18, 2015, 08:37:20 PM »
I believe the UNC executive knows very well they have little to no chance of winning this fight in court. This is a move to rally their base support. If they can have their supporters believe the election was stolen this will keep their supporters behind the call of the rising sun and add more hatred fuel towards the PNM

And distract the base from the real issue of their Queen leading them to 5 defeats at every election since 2010.  They will be too busy working themselves into a frenzy over this non issue to question their Queen and the leaders in the party.

In my layman's eyes, I don't think the petitions will succeed.  But let's say they do and we have to go back to the polls in the 6 named marginals.  The cut arse will be worse than before.  And I personally going and campaign in St. Joseph to ensure Mr. Terrence Deyalsingh wins again (I woulda go Moruga since that result was real close, but that a lil too far..... ;D).

Oh and ah see Brent Sanko parading up and down the TV screen tonight on the news singing for his supper. Like the SIS money run out already.  His cut arse will be worse than before.  Damn arse.....
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