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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #60 on: May 25, 2010, 06:03:21 PM »
Why does it pain so much to afford a man the recognition he so richly deserves?

Jack has done so much and done so well, not only politically, but in business as well. That his dealings may be suspect or immoral is a topic well discussed and debated and will not continue in this particular post.

What will be however, is Jack's potential benefit to our football.

Haven't we benefitted enough? Whether negative or positive? Or are we all disguised hypocrites who have their hand out because 'daddy get a big wuk'?

Jack's affiliation (interference) with our football should remain unchanged. Do you expect Jack to throw sums of money in football's direction because his party has now been elected into government? Wasn't he doing that before? Or have we all gotten more greedy and are now mirroring the very trait Jack possesses that we claim to abhor?

For those who may not be so showered with the waters of knowledge, or those whose knowledge has been evaporated by the intense heat of ignorance, Jack does not need Trinidad's money. While he can do with it and surely will not refuse it...he does not NEED it.

Football will remain the same...the beneficiary of Jack's benevolence, via his personal wealth, or the beneficiary of govt funding (as in the previous administration) via his new found political power. Similarly, it may suffer ffrom the opposite.

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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #61 on: May 25, 2010, 06:04:36 PM »
Quote from: dinho on May 25, 2010, 04:31:54 PM
You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.

If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.

As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.

Someday this might work as a moving eulogy at Jack funeral... but I don't see how any of that makes him "...the best administrator this country has known."
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #62 on: May 25, 2010, 06:13:25 PM »
Quote from: diamondtrim on May 25, 2010, 06:03:21 PM
Why does it pain so much to afford a man the recognition he so richly deserves?

Jack has done so much and done so well, not only politically, but in business as well. That his dealings may be suspect or immoral is a topic well discussed and debated and will not continue in this particular post.

What will be however, is Jack's potential benefit to our football.

Haven't we benefitted enough? Whether negative or positive? Or are we all disguised hypocrites who have their hand out because 'daddy get a big wuk'?

Jack's affiliation (interference) with our football should remain unchanged. Do you expect Jack to throw sums of money in football's direction because his party has now been elected into government? Wasn't he doing that before? Or have we all gotten more greedy and are now mirroring the very trait Jack possesses that we claim to abhor?

For those who may not be so showered with the waters of knowledge, or those whose knowledge has been evaporated by the intense heat of ignorance, Jack does not need Trinidad's money. While he can do with it and surely will not refuse it...he does not NEED it.

Football will remain the same...the beneficiary of Jack's benevolence, via his personal wealth, or the beneficiary of govt funding (as in the previous administration) via his new found political power. Similarly, it may suffer ffrom the opposite.


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seriously: when I read this line I stumbled....please explain Thanks
"Haven't we benefitted enough? Whether negative or positive? Or are we all disguised hypocrites who have their hand out because 'daddy get a big wuk'?"
sounds like you promoting the "negatively benefitted" as a GOOD thing ???
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #63 on: May 25, 2010, 06:57:47 PM »
Benefitting from Jack is rarely portrayed as positive on this forum, hence my purposely apparently confusing statement.

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« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2010, 06:59:24 PM »
Quote from: dinho on May 25, 2010, 04:31:54 PM

You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.

If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.

As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.

he got rid of the competiton dinho
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« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2010, 06:59:40 PM »
Quote from: diamondtrim on May 25, 2010, 06:57:47 PM
Benefitting from Jack is rarely portrayed as positive on this forum, hence my purposely apparently confusing statement.
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2010, 07:05:29 PM »
Quote from: diamondtrim on May 25, 2010, 06:57:47 PM
Benefitting from Jack is rarely portrayed as positive on this forum, hence my purposely apparently confusing statement.



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« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2010, 07:16:23 PM »
Quote from: Trini _2014 on May 25, 2010, 06:59:24 PM
Quote from: dinho on May 25, 2010, 04:31:54 PM

You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.

If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.

As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.

he got rid of the competiton dinho
The man league was very Popular indeed and Jack shut it down
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2010, 07:43:25 PM »
Quote from: diamondtrim on May 25, 2010, 06:57:47 PM
Benefitting from Jack is rarely portrayed as positive on this forum, hence my purposely apparently confusing statement.



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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2010, 07:58:58 PM »
Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then  he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #70 on: May 25, 2010, 08:02:00 PM »
Quote from: jai john on May 25, 2010, 07:58:58 PM
Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then  he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !

how he getting rid of kamla?
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2010, 08:09:14 PM »
Quote from: Trini _2014 on May 25, 2010, 06:59:24 PM
Quote from: dinho on May 25, 2010, 04:31:54 PM

You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.

If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.

As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.

he got rid of the competiton dinho

Is that not what war, politics, sport and business are all about?
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #72 on: May 25, 2010, 08:28:36 PM »
Quote from: D.H.W on May 25, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: jai john on May 25, 2010, 07:58:58 PM
Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then  he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !

how he getting rid of kamla?

Declaring that she not fit 4 public office. Watch d ride.
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2010, 08:32:13 PM »
Quote from: weary1969 on May 25, 2010, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: D.H.W on May 25, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: jai john on May 25, 2010, 07:58:58 PM
Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then  he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !

how he getting rid of kamla?

Declaring that she not fit 4 public office. Watch d ride.
hear de ride right here
Jack go tell Kamla
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2010, 08:38:04 PM »
Quote from: D.H.W on May 25, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: jai john on May 25, 2010, 07:58:58 PM
Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then  he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !

how he getting rid of kamla?
I eh know how yet, but he get rid of Panday so he could definitely get rid of Kamla...especially cause she not as surrounded with loyal subjects since it have men like Dooks and McLeod there with there own agenda.
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« Reply #75 on: May 25, 2010, 08:49:32 PM »
Quote from: spideybuff on May 25, 2010, 08:38:04 PM
Quote from: D.H.W on May 25, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: jai john on May 25, 2010, 07:58:58 PM
Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then  he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !

how he getting rid of kamla?
I eh know how yet, but he get rid of Panday so he could definitely get rid of Kamla...especially cause she not as surrounded with loyal subjects since it have men like Dooks and McLeod there with there own agenda.
well I hope that she gets her own singular advisors as she will need them
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #76 on: May 25, 2010, 10:55:15 PM »
Quote from: Flickin Killa a/k/a Mad Scorpion on May 25, 2010, 02:43:43 PM
Quote from: frico on May 25, 2010, 02:11:30 PM
I am a bit baffled by what I am reading,I am 5000 miles away so maybe I dont know the full facts.I am wondering if the UNC/COP and others were not aware of JW as some sort of Lucifer,at least that is what I read.It would be stupid to accept certain people in your Party if you are aware of the character and attitude of that person especially if they could be a problem.I would also like to know if the UNC benifitted from having someone who weilds power world-wide,he is a big man and that is good for the UNC and not the other way round.If JW wanted to join the PNM would would he have been refused,I doubt it.
 I have to say too,that our footballers who went on strike for money that was promised is the reason why our football went the way it did after 2006.Many of the players did not want to take part in the action but was forced to do so,for the good of our football greed should have been put aside for a while.What did those footballers expect JW to do,he would obviously teach them who is boss,you cant always "fight fire with fire",sometimes you must "stoop to conquer".

So dem man was jus suppose to say nah it eh no big scene right now ent?!  You songin like de type who if police lock yuh up mistakenly an yuh end up in jail, yuh go offer up some buttom even before ah man board yuh oui!

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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #77 on: May 26, 2010, 07:08:03 AM »
Quote from: Bake n Shark on May 25, 2010, 04:11:36 PM
Quote from: Arimaman on May 25, 2010, 09:22:54 AM
I am no JW supporter but let's be honest now.  Trinidad football probably would not be as developed without him.  I know I know, he eh the most honest person when it comes to money, however, he has done a lot of good.  Truth be told, the man did mortgage his home in the early 80's to host those CONCACAF tournaments and he did put our football on the map.  What we all don't like about him is his arrogance and his money hungry ways.

However, to ask whether he really care about we football is unfair....

Unfair?? I cyah believe de shit I does read sometimes nah.  Yuh know yuh's mih boy but ah think somebody slip sumting in yuh orange peel tea dis morning, cuz yuh talk A-grade assness dey.  Anything Jack Warner do fuh TnT football he did it with ah mind towards making money.  And best believe he done recoup he investment.  No I didn't consult de seer woman and me eh no mind reader, but I does pay attention to facts and human behavior and all the facts and all ah de li'l "human" behavior left in jack tells me he only have one love, and that comes in different hues and varying denominations.

I willing tuh concede dat like young Anakin Skywalker there probably once some semblance of good resident inside he cold heart, but de powers of de darkside dun take he over long before he became Jack Vader and start f**kking up allyuh Trinis with he Jedi mind tricks.  He make allyuh so bazodee that allyuh fuhget all de innocent lives he destroy, all de careers he manipulated, frustrated and truncated... and allyuh gorn and hand him de keys to guvahment now.  Now allyuh wondering if TnT football go benefit??

As I tell ah man in ah next thread... football??  Allyuh feel Jack ever give a f**k about ah football??  Football was just a vehicle for he tuh line he pocket and now that allyuh hand him a government office it have real money to make now.  Football??

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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #78 on: May 26, 2010, 07:11:58 AM »
Quote from: D.H.W on May 25, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: jai john on May 25, 2010, 07:58:58 PM
Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then  he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !

how he getting rid of kamla?
well lets see ..first was dem fellas in the old TTFA ...then dem two fellas on de way up to concacaf Presidency , then Dooks, then , Panday, then Ramesh, a first salvo at wade mark ( who gone silent now )  de soca warriors who dared to stand up and demand their pound of flesh, gally, stuart Charles...Yup ..he have de experience and a long list of casualties to back it up ...." Cant we all say ..dont worry..Jack always finds a way ? "
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« Reply #79 on: May 26, 2010, 10:34:54 AM »
Quote from: jai john on May 26, 2010, 07:11:58 AM
Quote from: D.H.W on May 25, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: jai john on May 25, 2010, 07:58:58 PM
Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then  he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !

how he getting rid of kamla?
well lets see ..first was dem fellas in the old TTFA ...then dem two fellas on de way up to concacaf Presidency , then Dooks, then , Panday, then Ramesh, a first salvo at wade mark ( who gone silent now )  de soca warriors who dared to stand up and demand their pound of flesh, gally, stuart Charles...Yup ..he have de experience and a long list of casualties to back it up ...." Cant we all say ..dont worry..Jack always finds a way ? "

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« Reply #80 on: May 26, 2010, 12:00:58 PM »
football and now politics in T&T are controlled by three people ....Austin, Jack, Warner !
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« Reply #81 on: May 26, 2010, 12:23:44 PM »
Quote from: jai john on May 26, 2010, 12:00:58 PM
football and now politics in T&T are controlled by three people ....Austin, Jack, Warner !

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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #82 on: May 26, 2010, 02:02:38 PM »
To some of the posters on this MB,cant we learn to respect people's views instead of cussing dem,agree to disagree like civilized people.Jumping up and cussing me because I have a view is is a sure sign of ignorance.
We are in the year 2010 lets look at things different coz Trinbagonians are sophisticated and educated people.
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« Reply #83 on: May 26, 2010, 07:07:46 PM »
Quote from: Bake n Shark on May 25, 2010, 04:11:36 PM
Quote from: Arimaman on May 25, 2010, 09:22:54 AM
I am no JW supporter but let's be honest now.  Trinidad football probably would not be as developed without him.  I know I know, he eh the most honest person when it comes to money, however, he has done a lot of good.  Truth be told, the man did mortgage his home in the early 80's to host those CONCACAF tournaments and he did put our football on the map.  What we all don't like about him is his arrogance and his money hungry ways.

However, to ask whether he really care about we football is unfair....

Unfair?? I cyah believe de shit I does read sometimes nah.  Yuh know yuh's mih boy but ah think somebody slip sumting in yuh orange peel tea dis morning, cuz yuh talk A-grade assness dey.  Anything Jack Warner do fuh TnT football he did it with ah mind towards making money.  And best believe he done recoup he investment.  No I didn't consult de seer woman and me eh no mind reader, but I does pay attention to facts and human behavior and all the facts and all ah de li'l "human" behavior left in jack tells me he only have one love, and that comes in different hues and varying denominations.

I willing tuh concede dat like young Anakin Skywalker there probably once some semblance of good resident inside he cold heart, but de powers of de darkside dun take he over long before he became Jack Vader and start f**kking up allyuh Trinis with he Jedi mind tricks.  He make allyuh so bazodee that allyuh fuhget all de innocent lives he destroy, all de careers he manipulated, frustrated and truncated... and allyuh gorn and hand him de keys to guvahment now.  Now allyuh wondering if TnT football go benefit??

As I tell ah man in ah next thread... football??  Allyuh feel Jack ever give a f**k about ah football??  Football was just a vehicle for he tuh line he pocket and now that allyuh hand him a government office it have real money to make now.  Football??

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Looking at the poll I see that we currently have 14 dotish posters who actually believe that Jack being in MORE power than he was previously will somehow benefit T&T football!

If that happens then it will be by pure accident rather than by design!  8)

Don't forget that T&T went to a World Cup in 2006 despite Jack rather than because of him!
To believe anything else is to be totally blind to the damage he has been doing to T&T football over the years!
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #84 on: May 26, 2010, 07:25:09 PM »
Quote from: sammy on May 25, 2010, 04:34:43 PM
Quote from: frico on May 25, 2010, 10:20:11 AM
Is JW the most hated man ever in TT?
nope.  just on this board

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« Reply #85 on: May 26, 2010, 07:33:47 PM »
Quote from: Trini _2014 on May 25, 2010, 06:59:24 PM
Quote from: dinho on May 25, 2010, 04:31:54 PM

You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.

If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.

As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.

he got rid of the competiton dinho
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« Reply #86 on: May 26, 2010, 10:18:24 PM »
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #87 on: May 27, 2010, 08:27:50 AM »
Anil Roberts going and be Sports Minister.. I ent see it posted before

http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/05/26/new-pm-look-cabinet-surprises

John Sandy go be National Security... so wha Jack taking?
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #88 on: May 27, 2010, 08:37:11 AM »
Quote from: FF on May 27, 2010, 08:27:50 AM
Anil Roberts going and be Sports Minister.. I ent see it posted before

http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/05/26/new-pm-look-cabinet-surprises

John Sandy go be National Security... so wha Jack taking?



yuh see this right here...

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“We will try to keep that promise of ours,” Persad-Bissessar added. On the possible appointment of defeated candidates to ministerial posts, Persad-Bissesar said she was not of the view that persons who lost an election should be given a forefront posting in ministries. She said there would be places for them and they would have a role to play but not in frontline ministerial postings.

:applause: for that...
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Re: Jack in power: good for football? (regardless of the rest of the country)
« Reply #89 on: May 27, 2010, 09:53:08 AM »
Quote from: FF on May 27, 2010, 08:27:50 AM
Anil Roberts going and be Sports Minister.. I ent see it posted before

http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/05/26/new-pm-look-cabinet-surprises

John Sandy go be National Security... so wha Jack taking?


One report said Foreign Affairs
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