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Joran van der Sloot, the Dutch man once considered a suspect in the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, is the suspect in the killing of a woman in Peru, Peruvian police officials said Wednesday.

There is "incriminating evidence" linking Van der Sloot to the killing of 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez, who was found dead in a Lima hotel room Wednesday, Cesar Guardia Vasquez, of the criminal investigations unit said at a news conference.

The hotel room where Flores was found was registered in Van der Sloot's name, he said.

A hotel guest and an employee witnessed the pair entering the hotel room together at 5 a.m. on Sunday, Guardia said.

Police have video of the previous night, May 29, of Van de Sloot and Flores together at the Atlantic City Casino in Lima, he said.

According to immigration officials, Van de Sloot fled to Chile over land on Monday, Guardia said.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/02/peru-cops-holloway-suspect-now-wanted-in-womans-death/
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 06:17:20 PM »
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 05:57:38 AM »
He and he giant head on ah serial killer vibes...a south american jail go do he good.
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 09:01:33 AM »
$$$ does seem to be no object ...

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 09:06:51 AM »
Nancy Grace panties wet!

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 11:17:49 AM »
Lemme hear what he fadda will say now.... >:(

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 11:21:13 AM »
CNN breaking news: Former Natalee Holloway case suspect Joran van der Sloot, wanted in slaying in Peru, has been apprehended in Chile


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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 04:48:47 PM »
5 yrs 2 d day dat Halloway disappear. Dat is how he celebrate gettin away wit murder commit another.
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2010, 05:59:28 PM »
Santiago, Chile (CNN) -- Joran van der Sloot, the suspect in a young woman's slaying this week in Peru and previously considered a suspect in the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway in Aruba, was captured Thursday in Chile, authorities said.

Van der Sloot is the main suspect in this week's slaying of 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez, who was found Wednesday in a Lima, Peru, hotel room registered to the Dutch man. Chilean police told CNN that paperwork showed that van der Sloot entered Chile on Wednesday.
Peruvian Interior Minister Octavio Salazar Miranda said Thursday that Peru has made arrangements with Interpol to extradite van der Sloot.

Van der Sloot also faces an arrest warrant on charges of extortion and wire fraud in Alabama, U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance said Thursday. The charges are unrelated to the killing of a Peruvian woman, and deal with an attempt to sell details about Holloway for $250,000, Vance said.

Van der Sloot, 23, was traveling alone in a taxi near the Chilean central coastal city of Vina del Mar when he was detained, said Douglas Rodriguez, spokesman for the Chilean Investigative Police.
Van der Sloot was transported Thursday afternoon to police headquarters in Santiago, Chile's capital.
TV images showed him emerging from a black police SUV at the police station. His hair, which had been black in previous images, was red and worn in a close-cropped crew cut.

In Peru, a wake was held Thursday in Lima for Flores, who was scheduled to be buried later in the day.
An uncle of Natalee Holloway said he was saddened by the Flores family's loss.

"We are disappointed that Joran has been able to do this to another young girl," Paul Reynolds told CNN. "He was not held accountable for what happened to Natalee and as a result has been able to repeat his actions. Sorry this other family has to go through the same thing we have.

Van der Sloot, who was arrested in connection with Holloway's disappearance in 2005 but later released, has denied any involvement in her case.
There is "incriminating evidence" linking van der Sloot to the killing of Flores, said Peruvian criminal investigator Cesar Guardia Vasquez.
The woman's bludgeoned body was found in Room 309 of the Hotel Tac in the Miraflores section of Lima, police said. She suffered blunt trauma to the head, breaking her neck, and to her torso and back, Peruvian police said Thursday.

Van der Sloot had been staying at the hotel since arriving from Colombia on May 14, police said. Room 309 was booked in his name, authorities said.
A hotel guest and an employee witnessed the pair entering the hotel room together at 5 a.m. Sunday, Guardia said. Police have video of van der Sloot and Flores together the previous night at the Atlantic City Casino in Lima, he said.
Two Peruvian cab drivers said in an interview on CNN affiliate America TV that they drove a man matching van der Sloot's description to a city on the other side of the Chilean border.
"He paid me and I took him to Arica, to the border," cab driver Oswaldo Aparcana said.
The man sat in the front seat and smoked many cigarettes, Aparcana said. The passenger told the cabbies he used to live in Aruba, said the other driver, Carlos Alberto Uribe.

The victim's father said he believes van der Sloot is responsible for the young woman's death.
"We have all the evidence to show that the killer is this man," businessman and race-car driver Ricardo Flores told CNN en Espaņol.
But van der Sloot's former attorney, Joseph Tacopina, told CNN it was too early to reach any conclusions.
"I just think we need to take a step back before we get to the 'I told you so' stage, and let's see what the evidence is here," Tacopina said Thursday.

Tacopina said he is not representing van der Sloot and no longer has a good relationship with the family.
Holloway, the Alabama teenager, disappeared May 30, 2005, five years to the day since the hotel videotape that officials say showed van der Sloot and Flores going into his hotel room. Both women are reported to have met van der Sloot at a night spot.

Ricardo Flores said police found his daughter's car about 50 blocks from the hotel. Inside the car, he said, authorities found pills like those used in date rapes.
Ricardo Flores said he did not believe his daughter knew the Dutch citizen beforehand.
Both of them speak English and they struck up conversation at the casino, he said.
Interpol had alerted its office in Chile and other bordering countries of the case and placed them on alert in case van der Sloot tried to leave that country, Peruvian Interpol Interim Director Gerson Ortiz told CNN.
Van der Sloot was arrested in Aruba in 2005 along with two other men, brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, in connection with Holloway's disappearance. They were later released.

In 2007, they were arrested a second time after Aruba's then-chief prosecutor, Hans Mos, said he had received new evidence in the case.
Van der Sloot, who was attending college in the Netherlands, was brought back to Aruba. But judges ruled the new evidence -- which included an Internet chat the same day Holloway disappeared in which one of the three youths said she was dead -- was not enough to keep them jailed.

In 2008, prosecutors sought unsuccessfully to arrest van der Sloot a third time after a videotape surfaced on Dutch television. In it, van der Sloot tells a man he considered to be his friend that he had sex with Holloway on the beach after leaving the nightclub, then she "started shaking" and lost consciousness. He said he panicked when he could not resuscitate her and called a friend who had a boat. The two put Holloway's body in the boat, he said, and then he went home. The friend told him the next day that he had carried the body out and dumped it in the ocean.

But an Aruba court ruled there was not enough evidence to re-arrest him. Aruban prosecutors said authorities had met with van der Sloot in the Netherlands, but in a two-hour interview he denied any role in Holloway's disappearance.

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2010, 06:01:55 PM »
And this victim was the daughter of some big wig in Peru. Businessman who also ran for President and also a wealthy car racer. I was listening to a lawyer on cnn. She said if convicted, he will spend 35 years in jail...no parole.  In a Peru jail...he will be lucky if he last 1 year, especially once the other jail mates find out who he killed.


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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2010, 09:07:55 AM »
aaaaahhhhh yes Karma is a biatch!!....
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2010, 04:09:50 PM »
aaaaahhhhh yes Karma is a biatch!!....

how is this karma?

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2010, 07:45:16 PM »
aaaaahhhhh yes Karma is a biatch!!....

how is this karma?



also... people acting like de fella done guilty arready.  True, where there is smoke there is fire... but leh we wait and see what kinda evidence they have on him before we start constructing gallows.  If guilty then yes, he should swing.

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2010, 09:27:03 PM »
Van der Sloot arrives at Lima police headquarters
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/05/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T2

Lima, Peru -- Murder suspect Joran van der Sloot arrived Saturday at the Lima police headquarters in Peru, where he is facing charges that he killed a Peruvian woman.

Van der Sloot, handcuffed and wearing a protective vest, was escorted through a news conference held by Peruvian authorities as photographers snapped photo after photo.
The body of 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez was found Wednesday in a Lima hotel room registered to van der Sloot, a Dutch citizen who was twice arrested and released in connection with the 2005 disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

Flores' body was badly beaten and investigators believe a tennis racquet in the room was used in the killing, Carlos Gonzalo, spokesman for Peru's Interior Ministry, told CNN. Despite reports that a baseball bat was the murder weapon, Gonzalo said there was not a baseball bat in the room.
Video: Van der Sloot arrives in Peru Video: Holloway's uncle on van der Sloot arrest Video: Victim's family speaks

The Dutch Consulate is now involved in the case and has volunteered a defense attorney for van der Sloot, according to Carlos Neyra, a spokesman for the Peruvian Investigative Police.
Gonzalo said van der Sloot has asked for his mother, though authorities couldn't confirm whether she's coming to Lima.
Surveillance video from a casino on May 30 shows Flores and van der Sloot playing cards at the same table, he said. The woman won about 5,000 soles (about $1,755), though it was not found in the room or the victim's car, Gonzalo said.
He said "they found bloodied clothes with" van der Sloot and that investigators are testing them, as well as the tennis racquet, for DNA.
He added that there is no other suspect connected to Flores' death.
A hotel worker is seen in a surveillance video speaking to van der Sloot as he is leaving the hotel, Gonzalo said. When investigators questioned the workers, he told them that van der Sloot told him "don't bother my girl." Van der Sloot indicated that he would be returning to the room, according to the worker.
The hotel workers became suspicious after no one else left the room, and eventually a foul smell came from it, Gonzalo said. It wasn't immediately clear how much time lapsed between the conversation on video and workers noticing the smell.

Chilean authorities delivered van der Sloot to their Peruvian counterparts on Friday in the border town of Santa Rosa, where he was greeted by hecklers and dozens of media personnel jostling for position to get a better picture of the Dutch citizen.
The Dutch Consulate has told Peruvian authorities that it is not comfortable with the way van der Sloot has been presented to the media, Neyra said. The Peruvian Minister of the Interior is asking authorities not to talk about the case without his authorization.
Paperwork showed that van der Sloot entered Chile the same day Flores' body was found, Chilean police told CNN. He was captured in Chile on Thursday and transported to the border to be expelled, said Macarena Lopez, a spokeswoman for Interpol.
The Chileans drove van der Sloot across the border to a Peruvian police station. He made a 100-foot walk from the car to the station as journalists pushed past a police line and a handful of hecklers rained loud and angry obscenities on the suspect's head.
Van der Sloot was taken inside the station for processing. From there, he was to be taken to the nearby town of Tacna and then flown to Lima.
Holloway was on a high school graduation trip to the Caribbean island of Aruba in 2005 when she disappeared. Van der Sloot was arrested twice in connection with the case but released both times. He denied any involvement and has not been charged.

Van der Sloot also faces an arrest warrant on charges of extortion and wire fraud in Alabama, U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance said Thursday. The charges are unrelated to the killing of the Peruvian woman and deal with an attempt to sell details about Holloway for $250,000, Vance said.

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2010, 06:38:18 AM »
aaaaahhhhh yes Karma is a biatch!!....

how is this karma?



Sooner or later he deeds woulda catch up with him.....kill once and get away with it, so hey why not kill again.  Now its true as Bakes says, he hasn't been found guilty, but if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, its certainly not a cow.  I have a sneaky feeling he was allowed to get away with Natalee Holloway's murder cuz daddy was there to step in and get him off.....

So like ah say, karma is a bitch.....

Ah have a problem with how he was paraded before the media though....dais how they does do it in Peru??   ??? ???
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2010, 08:09:31 AM »
aaaaahhhhh yes Karma is a biatch!!....

how is this karma?



Sooner or later he deeds woulda catch up with him.....kill once and get away with it, so hey why not kill again.  Now its true as Bakes says, he hasn't been found guilty, but if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, its certainly not a cow.  I have a sneaky feeling he was allowed to get away with Natalee Holloway's murder cuz daddy was there to step in and get him off.....

So like ah say, karma is a bitch.....

Ah have a problem with how he was paraded before the media though....dais how they does do it in Peru??   ??? ???

YES!!! Everyday!

It's also very common to see vigilante justice being executed at the very same media parade. Script: perpetrator paraded, member of the offended faction or party or victim's relatives hussling in to hit some cuff, whatever they could geh way wid.

Last week in Ecuador one of the major issues was members of the indigenous community meteing out punishment according to their customs to some offenders implicated in a homicide (they were being publicly displayed... that is, they were hanging naked from some contraption ...and the main offender was held somewhere else just so mainstream authorities couldn't get to him ... anyway, Ecuador's AG was blocked (literally physically impeded) from reaching these guys seen hanging alive, although he had a security detail ... local TV had a debate about the impropriety/propriety of having dual systems of justice in place ... the indigenous populace argues their way allows for immediate reinsertion in society, whereas the mainstream method does not even affect proper rehabilitation. The State recognizes its version, not the other.

Quite provocative stuff ... women carrying barrels and sacks on their backs uphill while in their undies etc. All on TV.

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2010, 08:36:30 AM »
yeh he guilty , unless the girl stab she self, they show the video where he and d girl enter the room, and he leave by himself after , he have to keys to the room, the room under his name, and the videos show nobody else entered or left the room. they go work that in jail  :devil:

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2010, 10:21:05 AM »
Ah have a problem with how he was paraded before the media though....dais how they does do it in Peru??   ??? ???

whey yuh mean Peru... yuh fuhget what does go on in Trinidad or what?  All yuh have to do was watch de photos of the taxi driver they arrest fuh de disappearance of the li'l girl two years ago and how the police march him thru POS with a crowd heckling him and threatening him.  At one point de man try to hide he face in he chest and ah Sargeant grab he chin and shove he head upwards... to ensure that he properly get shamed nah.  Presumption of innocence? lol

Meanwhile jury pool get taint... anybody seeing that done thinking he guilty arready, especially how people in TnT does think.

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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2010, 10:34:18 AM »
yeh he guilty , unless the girl stab she self, they show the video where he and d girl enter the room, and he leave by himself after , he have to keys to the room, the room under his name, and the videos show nobody else entered or left the room. they go work that in jail  :devil:

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Yuh mean de YouTube video, right?  Because I doh think yuh have de however many hours of video showing the entire sequence of who enter the room when.  Supposedly employees entered after smelling the body... yuh think that body start decomposing overnight as the video suggest?  Do we even know that she was dead by the time he's shown leaving the room?

I not trying to defend de fella or argue that he innocent, but all that video does is establish a connection between him and the victim.  I hope for his sake that whomever sits on his jury (or yours, should you find yourself in a similar situation, God forbid) not as quick to rush to judgment based on circumstantial evidence with somebody life/liberty at stake.

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2010, 02:22:37 PM »
i don't know this whole case sounding fishy...Is it just me but I also find it strange that he doesn't lock the door as in turn the key and such...It could probably lock from inside...who know...She's a wealthy girl for all we know it could be her wealthy ex boyfriend who's jealous and took revenge..Maybe a politician's son or somebody high in society...Cover ups are possible..!!!

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2010, 02:23:13 PM »
Ah have a problem with how he was paraded before the media though....dais how they does do it in Peru??   ??? ???

whey yuh mean Peru... yuh fuhget what does go on in Trinidad or what?  All yuh have to do was watch de photos of the taxi driver they arrest fuh de disappearance of the li'l girl two years ago and how the police march him thru POS with a crowd heckling him and threatening him.  At one point de man try to hide he face in he chest and ah Sargeant grab he chin and shove he head upwards... to ensure that he properly get shamed nah.  Presumption of innocence? lol

Meanwhile jury pool get taint... anybody seeing that done thinking he guilty arready, especially how people in TnT does think.


That happens here going to and from court.  The parade before the media was apparently made for a press conference or something of that nature....that's just weird....anyway I still maintain that karma is a bitch, daddy eh around to help him now....
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2010, 02:26:23 PM »
I not trying to defend de fella or argue that he innocent, but all that video does is establish a connection between him and the victim.  I hope for his sake that whomever sits on his jury (or yours, should you find yourself in a similar situation, God forbid) not as quick to rush to judgment based on circumstantial evidence with somebody life/liberty at stake.

uuuuummmm Bakes, people have been found guilty based on circumstantial evidence before right? 
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Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2010, 02:32:31 PM »
I not trying to defend de fella or argue that he innocent, but all that video does is establish a connection between him and the victim.  I hope for his sake that whomever sits on his jury (or yours, should you find yourself in a similar situation, God forbid) not as quick to rush to judgment based on circumstantial evidence with somebody life/liberty at stake.

uuuuummmm Bakes, people have been found guilty based on circumstantial evidence before right? 

Indeed... and in many cases it was subsequently discovered that they were wrongly convicted.  We only hear of the higher profile exonerations... if ever, but for many of us it's not until you get closer to the issue that you realize how frequently these wrongful convictions take place.


Again, not saying he innocent but...

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2010, 02:33:47 PM »
Yuh mean de YouTube video, right? 

no not the video alone, i know they cut it. But investigators stated nobody else entered or left the room based on the video evidence. either way it look already that they find him guilty  :devil:, but in his defense he have to come good to explain how he Innocent, unless people does walk through walls.
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2010, 02:40:42 PM »
Yuh mean de YouTube video, right? 

no not the video alone, i know they cut it. But investigators stated nobody else entered or left the room based on the video evidence. either way it look already that they find him guilty  :devil:, but in his defense he have to come good to explain how he Innocent, unless people does walk through walls.

I dunno de exact situation with that hotel... but yuh doh find it more than a little bit curious that they just so happen to have a camera trained on the entrance to that room?  Maybe they have all the rooms under surveillance like that... or maybe is just luck... or maybe it have more facts that haven't yet been made public.

Either way my chief concern if I were in his shoes (innocent or guilty) is that all of this trial in the media will make it harder for him to find an impartial jury.  No matter the charges and no matter the defendant we never want to have a jury going into the trial with dey minds done made up arready.  Justice isn't about finding somebody guilty for the girl's murder, but finding the right somebody guilty.

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2010, 02:45:02 PM »
And that is exactly what shows like Nancy Grace and stuff do..Find someone guilty before the case even begins...How hard is it to find members for a jury who will remain impartial when shows like these exists???

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2010, 03:03:52 PM »
And that is exactly what shows like Nancy Grace and stuff do..Find someone guilty before the case even begins...How hard is it to find members for a jury who will remain impartial when shows like these exists???

Like all the other pogroms programs on Faux News I doh really watch that Nancy Grace nonsense.  She not interested in justice or nutten like that, her chief interest is in riling people up enough that they tune in to her show and generate ad revenue.

 

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