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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2010, 07:10:15 PM »
This man making me earn mih money... lucky fuh he Peru has no life and no capital punishment.  That said, them South American police master beat people into swearing they mother guilty.  It ent looking good but I waiting tuh hear all the facts presented.  Scaffold done build, man starting to measure rope... lol

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2010, 10:47:32 PM »
so she take his laptop and find out he was involved in the disappearance of Natalie? how she do that? she Google him while he was sitting there or he had files/picture/press clipping on his laptop?

Nah the article says that he left to go get coffee. When he returned he saw her with his laptop. Who knows what she was doing with it. Whether to email or just google his name (why would she in the first place, since she only met him the day before?) Dunno, but he get vex with her intruding into his private life....man get real vex.


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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2010, 08:06:15 AM »
he is a very strange human being indeed

 serial killers tend to be a little odd
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2010, 08:16:28 AM »
this fellah bad like red ants.. he involved in natalie holloway's disappearance, plus he extorting the parents for information about the whereabouts of her body.. plus he trying to run ah sex ring, and now this?? Nah boy... why this man have so much funding and freedom of movement?

sound from the story like the girl google him when he went to the coffee shop and found out about his history..
         

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2010, 08:28:58 AM »
So okay he said he broke her neck in the fight.
Then explain to me her disfigured face (her brother had to ID the body and he said her face was bloodied and disfigured). Plus explain the weapon a baseball bat.

The girl touch your laptop and you freak out enough to cause bodily harm that lead to death?
What the hell does your laptop contained?

Hopefully they get hold of his laptop and that hard drive....

Also, his freedom of movement across borders and continents, absent any word of official concern about the implications of his presence in the various countries raises a red flag to me ... put differently, ah want to believe had he landed at Piarco he would have been received quite differently ... allyuh really feel he woulda be flexing in Zen and pulling gyul easy so? Ah jes asking ...

asylumseeker, yes I think he would be flexing  in Zen and even making front page walking down Frederick Street as another tourist. I think he would be just another white dude that the natives will fall all over.  Let's face it, he isn't a ugly looking fella plus he has money and also tall  :)


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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2010, 08:56:16 AM »
this fellah bad like red ants.. he involved in natalie holloway's disappearance, plus he extorting the parents for information about the whereabouts of her body.. plus he trying to run ah sex ring, and now this?? Nah boy... why this man have so much funding and freedom of movement?

sound from the story like the girl google him when he went to the coffee shop and found out about his history..

amateur move... never leave ah woman in yuh house by sheself.

ah have ah partner does even bathe with he cellphone on de bathroom shelf
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2010, 09:28:59 AM »
this fellah bad like red ants.. he involved in natalie holloway's disappearance, plus he extorting the parents for information about the whereabouts of her body.. plus he trying to run ah sex ring, and now this?? Nah boy... why this man have so much funding and freedom of movement?

sound from the story like the girl google him when he went to the coffee shop and found out about his history..

amateur move... never leave ah woman in yuh house by sheself.

ah have ah partner does even bathe with he cellphone on de bathroom shelf

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2010, 09:52:44 PM »
Official: Van der Sloot says he knows location of Holloway's body

Lima, Peru (CNN) -- Joran van der Sloot told investigators during an interrogation that he knows the location of Natalee Holloway's body, but he would neither identify the location nor say what happened to her the night of her disappearance, a Peruvian police official told CNN Thursday in Lima.
"He says he knew the location of the American citizen but that he was going to explain everything to Aruban police," said Miguel Canlla, head of the homicide division of the Peruvian national police investigative unit.
Van der Sloot, twice detained but never charged in the disappearance of Holloway five years ago in Aruba, was arrested last week in connection with a different case: the slaying of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman in Lima, the nation's capital. He confessed to the Peruvian woman's slaying earlier this week, police said.

Van der Sloot was transferred from a police facility to the national attorney general's office Thursday morning, according to images broadcast by CNN affiliate America TV.
His attorney, Maximo Alonso Altez Navarro, told CNN his client will go from the attorney general's office to the Justice Ministry, where a judge will determine which jail he will go to.

The lawyer said he has spoken with the director of jails in Lima to make sure van der Sloot is safe once he is moved to one of the city's maximum-security prisons.
Altez said he planned to ask the judge in the case to strike down van der Sloot's confession in the Peruvian case, because he was not properly represented when he was interrogated.
The attorney said police got a public defense attorney to be present at the interrogation and subsequent confession, but that van der Sloot never agreed to this lawyer.
Altez also said he has found indications that the handling of the evidence was tainted, especially the way the body was handled during the crime scene investigation.
He intends to go to trial, Altez said.

The body of Stephany Flores was found last week in a hotel room registered to van der Sloot. Hotel surveillance video shows the pair entering his room and van der Sloot leaving alone more than three hours later.
Altez said Flores attacked van der Sloot first, after he confronted her for going through his computer. Police said Flores was badly beaten and suffered a broken neck.
Van der Sloot confessed Monday night after a seven-hour interrogation to killing Flores, a source with direct knowledge of the investigation told CNN.

The Dutch citizen told investigators that he left the hotel room to buy bread and coffee at a gas station next to the hotel, the source said.
Upon van der Sloot's return, he found Flores going through his laptop, where she found something linking him to Holloway's disappearance, the source said.

At that point, Flores wanted to leave, and the pair started arguing, according to the source.
Flores slapped van der Sloot, and he hit her back, and then grabbed her neck, the source said.
Van der Sloot told investigators he had smoked marijuana before the confrontation, the source said.
Although Flores' body was found half-dressed, there was no evidence that she had sexual intercourse that night, the source said.
Van der Sloot, 22, was arrested in Chile on June 4 and returned to Peru the next day.
While he was never charged in connection with Holloway's disappearance in 2005, he has been charged in Alabama with extortion and wire fraud charges. According to a document from Interpol, van der Sloot contacted a representative of Holloway's mother, Beth Holloway, on or around March 29 to ask for $250,000 in exchange for information on the whereabouts of Natalee Holloway's remains.
Van der Sloot received $25,000 last month, officials said.

A representative for Holloway's mother who paid the money was an undercover FBI agent, a federal law enforcement official told CNN.

However, the FBI and the U.S. attorney's office in Birmingham, Alabama, said Wednesday that the FBI did not supply the money.
"Some news accounts have suggested that the FBI provided $25,000 in funds that were transmitted to van der Sloot. This is incorrect. The funds involved were private funds," the FBI and U.S. attorney's office said in a statement.
The FBI and U.S. attorney's office in Birmingham arranged for a meeting in which van der Sloot was paid $10,000 in cash and another $15,000 in a wire transfer, a source familiar with the case said. The meeting took place in May, according to the U.S. attorney's office in Birmingham.
Interpol documents show that the $15,000 was transferred to a personal bank account in the Netherlands. The information about Natalee Holloway that van der Sloot provided to the FBI was not true, according to the documents.

Although the investigation involving alleged extortion had been in motion for several weeks at the time of Flores' death, "it was not sufficiently developed to bring charges prior to the time van der Sloot left Aruba," the FBI statement said.

"This is not due to any fault on the part of the FBI or the U.S. attorney's office, where agents and prosecutors were working as hard as possible to bring the case to fruition when they learned of the murder. A case based on events outside of the United States is a complex matter, and work was proceeding with all deliberate speed to prepare the evidence, the charges and the necessary procedures to obtain custody of van der Sloot," the statement said.

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2010, 10:26:11 PM »
HE GUILTY

And he move chupid just like OJ.

Yuh get off

Stay outta trouble. No. Dey figure dey cyah get ketch cause he beat ah murder wrap so nothing could trump that.

Bad move.

Which women yuh know ent ah macco. Take yuh computer and shut it down or move it outta site.

He wanted she to mess with him, he figure is Peru and they backward so he could get away easy easy.

Bad move.

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #69 on: June 11, 2010, 07:12:19 AM »


He wanted she to mess with him, he figure is Peru and they backward so he could get away easy easy.

Bad move.

true, problem is he and he giant head kill ah rich man daughter
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2010, 10:59:21 AM »
Is true he ehad real big, if ah ants start to walk around he head, by de time it reach half way is ah damn batchack

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« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2010, 11:51:49 AM »
Is true he ehad real big, if ah ants start to walk around he head, by de time it reach half way is ah damn batchack


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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2010, 03:46:11 PM »
So, if de FBI din give this man $$$$ arguably the Peruvian woman would have been alive today?

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2010, 05:16:22 PM »
So, if de FBI din give this man $$$$ arguably the Peruvian woman would have been alive today?

The money came from the mother not the FBI. The FBI apparently had some charges they could have held him on (wire fraud), but also the Aruba police could have held him again for at least 180 days based on new evidence from that extortion incident.

I heard he passed through Colombia when two girls went missing as well, but haven't read if they found any further evidence to make a link.

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2010, 05:20:15 PM »
Official: Van der Sloot says he knows location of Holloway's body
he come back with this shit again
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2010, 05:21:38 PM »
So, if de FBI din give this man $$$$ arguably the Peruvian woman would have been alive today?

The money came from the mother not the FBI. The FBI apparently had some charges they could have held him on (wire fraud), but also the Aruba police could have held him again for at least 180 days based on new evidence from that extortion incident.

I heard he passed through Colombia when two girls went missing as well, but haven't read if they found any further evidence to make a link.


There are reports the FBI paid him $25K ... seems this was separate from what he received from the mother.

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2010, 05:29:17 PM »
So, if de FBI din give this man $$$$ arguably the Peruvian woman would have been alive today?

The money came from the mother not the FBI. The FBI apparently had some charges they could have held him on (wire fraud), but also the Aruba police could have held him again for at least 180 days based on new evidence from that extortion incident.

I heard he passed through Colombia when two girls went missing as well, but haven't read if they found any further evidence to make a link.


There are reports the FBI paid him $25K ... seems this was separate from what he received from the mother.
that story is real messed up
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20007505-504083.html
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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2010, 05:38:27 PM »
Official: Van der Sloot says he knows location of Holloway's body
he come back with this shit again

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Re: Peru cops: Holloway suspect van der Sloot wanted for murder again
« Reply #78 on: June 11, 2010, 08:31:06 PM »
So, if de FBI din give this man $$$$ arguably the Peruvian woman would have been alive today?

The money came from the mother not the FBI. The FBI apparently had some charges they could have held him on (wire fraud), but also the Aruba police could have held him again for at least 180 days based on new evidence from that extortion incident.

I heard he passed through Colombia when two girls went missing as well, but haven't read if they found any further evidence to make a link.


There are reports the FBI paid him $25K ... seems this was separate from what he received from the mother.

I think the answer is "both"... the way I interpret the reports is that someone connected to the FBI (perhaps an agent) who is also a relative of the mother arranged a wire transfer in the amount of $25k.  Officially the FBI had no connection... but you know how that goes.

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« Reply #79 on: June 12, 2010, 04:03:14 AM »
So, if de FBI din give this man $$$$ arguably the Peruvian woman would have been alive today?

apparently the FBI sanctioned the payments to get him in their clutches.  They wired a lawyer and sent him to meet with Joran for the second time.

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Holloway attorney details van der Sloot sting
John Q. Kelly set up suspect, who said he would show Holloway’s remains
 
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John Q. Kelly, the attorney for Natalee Holloway’s mother, recounts his involvement in a sting operation to nab Joran van der Sloot for murder and extortion.

Could the FBI have prevented Peru murder?

June 10: Federal sources say that before arresting Joran van der Sloot in an extortion sting, they wanted to confirm new clues in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway that he leaked for cash.

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updated 12:58 p.m. ET, Fri., June 11, 2010
Joran van der Sloot was so desperate for money that $100 — with only a promise of more to come — was all he needed to further an FBI sting operation and spark a chain of events that ended with him confessing to a Peruvian woman's savage death, according to the lawyer who provided the funds.

In a TODAY exclusive, John Q. Kelly, an attorney for Natalee Holloway's mother, offered new details about the sting operation that likely allowed van der Sloot to flee Aruba for Peru.

Van der Sloot has been suspected almost from the beginning of being responsible for Natalee Holloway’s disappearance in Aruba five years ago, and Thursday, Peruvian police told NBC News that he admitted knowing the location of Holloway’s remains. They added that he was willing to tell authorities in Aruba where to find the Alabama teenager’s remains.

In March, van der Sloot reached out to Kelly, demanding $250,000 from Holloway’s mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, in exchange for leading Kelly to the teenager’s remains, Kelly told TODAY.

Kelly said that when van der Sloot contacted him, he did not think he was going to learn the truth. His feelings, he said, were, “skepticism, caution, assuming everything he was going to tell me was false — but I had to understandably think that it might be true, also; so approach it very carefully and keep communicating.”

Kelly agreed to meet van der Sloot alone and brought no money — angering the suspect. Kelly then called the FBI to set up a sting, telling TODAY it only took $100 to convince van der Sloot to start talking with him again.

'A win-win situation'
Kelly said he ultimately decided he couldn’t lose by playing along with van der Sloot's demands for money in exchange for revealing the location of Holloway's remains.

“It was a win-win situation. He was either going to pay the money, and if the information turned out to be true, Beth would get closure, she’d bring Natalie home. Assuming it was false, it would be extortion and wire fraud once falsehoods are proven. Either way, he’d be boxed in,” Kelly told TODAY. Kelly said van der Sloot wanted $25,000 up front, with the rest to be provided when the remains were recovered and proven to be Holloway’s, Kelly said.

So Kelly went to Aruba in April to meet with van der Sloot without telling anyone but his own wife and Twitty. He met van der Sloot for about two hours in a hotel.

“No money, no recording devices. Nobody knew I was there,” Kelly said Friday. “It was Easter Sunday. It was one-on-one in a hotel room for a couple hours. He thought I was bringing the $25,000. I engaged him in a long series of conversations. I was trying to get as much information as I could.”

Van der Sloot wanted money, and when Kelly said he didn’t have it with him, the man got “very angry, very agitated, very upset.”

Kelly said it was nerve-racking.

“He’s a big guy. He’s 6’4”, 225 [pounds], well built. He’s sort of a threatening individual when he gets angry, no question.”

When Kelly returned to the States, he contacted the FBI and began to set up the elaborate sting with the FBI and Aruban law-enforcement authorities.

He regained van der Sloot’s attention by sending him $100. Then, with a promise that he would bring $25,000, another meeting was set up for May 10 in Aruba.

This time, Kelly was hooked up with recording devices and rehearsed in how he needed to handle the transaction. He gave van der Sloot $10,000 in cash, establishing extortion, then had $15,000 of Twitty's personal money wired to van der Sloot’s bank account in the Netherlands, establishing wire fraud.

Van der Sloot and Kelly signed a contract, and van der Sloot took the lawyer on a drive to show where Holloway’s remains were. He pointed out a house and said his father had helped dispose of the body in the foundation. It was later determined that the house was not built when Holloway disappeared on her high school’s senior trip and that the information was false.

Van der Sloot himself told Kelly in an e-mail he apparently sent from Peru a week after the meeting that he had lied.

“He indicated it was all a hoax, which is sort of his M.O. with everybody — get the money, then say it’s a hoax and avoid criminal prosecution,” Kelly said.


'He's cold as ice'
After taking $25,000 in exchange for information that turned out to be false, Kelly said van der Sloot could have been arrested for wire fraud and extortion.

But authorities said that more work needed to be done to build the case and van der Sloot was not only left free, he was allowed to leave Aruba for South America, where he would meet Stephany Flores, the woman he confessed to killing, while participating in a poker tournament.

Holloway's mother is “obviously devastated. It’s the second nightmare for her,” Kelly told Lauer of Twitty’s reaction when she learned of Flores’ death. “Another young girl is dead and another family is living the nightmare she went through. Needless to say, she’s distraught right now.”

Kelly said he does not know why van der Sloot was allowed to remain free. “That wasn’t my call,” he said.

He also added that when he walked away from his meetings with van der Sloot having no doubt that the suspect is a psychopath. “You can look right into his eyes and see he’s cold as ice and pathological.”



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