This thread is hilarious.
I doh "hate" per se, but I also doh hate the haters....Becaue I totally understand the feelings. Nov 19 is a painful memory and as such it's a legitimate grudge. I wouldn't doubt that there are football grudges all over the world that have their roots in something less significant than what we experienced in 1989.
Shotta12 in what seems like an attempt to convert the non believers goes abit too far. For e.g. USA is NOT more tactically sound than Brazil. You're a football novice and an idiot if you think so. If you think Brazil has been a world beater through time on all talent and little tactics, you're completely clueless. Brazil's off the field sophistication in the game is overshadowed by an image and a romanticism that great marketing has created on the backs of some extraordinary talent. Brazil is NOT only just trying to adopt a tactical approach to the game- that's about as retarded a statement you can make...If you had a clue you'd know that criticim of Brazil's varying football philosophy and diversion from joga bonito has been a topic of discussion way way way before W.C. 2010. In fact Brazil's World Cup team of WC 1974 which was dismantled by cryuff and the Dutch is highly regarded as one of the least "Brazilian" teams of all time.
Anyhow back to the U.S.- There's alot to respect and admire, but there's also alot to be annoyed by. A large part of the American society who comments on the game is cause for major irritation. For a long time American society at large has ridiculed the game as being girly, boring, and inferior. Even respected media has shat on football in a way that construes a very snobby and negative U.S. perspective on the globe. Because the U.S. hasn't conquered the game the attitude comes across as jealous and nasty- Then there's the highly annoying, biased and sometimes unprofessional American commentary of the game, which is reason in itself to wish the U.S. would not even be involved so those guys would just hush...(I often feel the same way about the Brits)... add that to the big bad wolf stigma that already sits on the backs of Americans, and for us an additional grudge stemming from Nov 19, and you have alot of reasons to wish that the U.S. never conquers the sport. Passion in love and hate is not only related to what happens on the field- and that's how it is in all Sports- The Irish hate the Brits, The Scottish hate the Brits, Argentina hates the Brits, The Brits hate the Germans, The Polish hate the Germans, The Germans and the Dutch hate eachother, The Swedes love and hate the Danes at the same time and vice versa...Lot's of American "soccer" fans dislike France and their team- Recognize a pattern? Go figure.
People on this board dislike Argentine football and Italian football because of their socities' reputation for being racist...what does that have to do with football? Arguably nothing...but it just goes to show that everybody has his/her reasons... So be it....