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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2010, 06:42:22 AM »
I now reading this in the papers.....what is the SIA??   ??? :-\

first time i hearing bout it too
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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2010, 08:34:19 AM »
I guess Pena know what she was telling de boss man. To start spying on Kamla before she was ever in nothing really is big time. To then use that info to get yourself voted out is ah master stroke.


How come the "SIA" did not know they going and get buss with all the spying they doing. That is rel PM MO.



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Re: How is Batman and Robin doing in TnT?
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2010, 08:39:03 AM »
Sugar I heard the Prime Minister mentioned the SIA this morning and from what she was saying it sounds as though they was the ones responsible for the wire tapping of the law abding politicians crooks and high profile so called  citizens phones.

 She was even wondering what they was doing with the information they was gathering and who they was reporting it or giving it to .  
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An early-morning police raid, ordered by Police Commissioner Dwayne Gibbs, on a secret snooping agency within the National Security Ministry has brought to light an extensive list, including Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and private citizens, whose phone calls, text messages and e-mails have been monitored over five years..Continue..http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/GIBBS_CATCHES_SPIES-107113978.html

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Re: How is Batman and Robin doing in TnT?
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2010, 09:45:02 PM »
Peeps d ole Bas did buy d equipment from Israel. All yuh cyah remember Manning bawling like 10 tarzan but 18-18 came and Manning I guess used it.

Dey had d info longgggggg time but de drop it now so all yuh go 4get Fazeer.
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« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2010, 10:03:35 PM »
Peeps d ole Bas did buy d equipment from Israel. All yuh cyah remember Manning bawling like 10 tarzan but 18-18 came and Manning I guess used it.

Dey had d info longgggggg time but de drop it now so all yuh go 4get Fazeer.


Yep...dahs de play self.

Bonus question: who was de AG when all dat play off?
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« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2010, 10:39:15 PM »
Peeps d ole Bas did buy d equipment from Israel. All yuh cyah remember Manning bawling like 10 tarzan but 18-18 came and Manning I guess used it.

Dey had d info longgggggg time but de drop it now so all yuh go 4get Fazeer.


Yep...dahs de play self.

Bonus question: who was de AG when all dat play off?

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« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2010, 06:32:21 AM »
Peeps d ole Bas did buy d equipment from Israel. All yuh cyah remember Manning bawling like 10 tarzan but 18-18 came and Manning I guess used it.

Dey had d info longgggggg time but de drop it now so all yuh go 4get Fazeer.

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« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2010, 07:07:20 AM »
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« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2010, 11:04:27 AM »
Peeps d ole Bas did buy d equipment from Israel. All yuh cyah remember Manning bawling like 10 tarzan but 18-18 came and Manning I guess used it.

Dey had d info longgggggg time but de drop it now so all yuh go 4get Fazeer.

Admiral Kellshall actally set it up for Basdeo, Kamla lying hwen she say she eh know about dat..Rowley brought the issue up in Parliament when he was in Opposition and Kamal was in basdeo cabinet...dey lie no arse.

SIA was set up on Long Circular road as de Head Quarters, visitied it myself several times.  They (PNM)took Nigel (Clement) after he come back from canada and send he to wuk with a certain woman who was a Jaycees carnival Queen at one time (me eh calling she name at all, she even get medal from patrick independence day) away from de oil and send he dere after dey expanded the role and increased the man power.

Microwave 360 around T&T, radar, listening devices de whole 9 yards..lol  Spies playing vagrant in POS man liming in rum shop, man join de Jamaat...you name it dem fellas was (trying) doing it.

If a boat leave Venezuela dem did see it.  One time dey was even looking at buying  UAV's and ting, but did get in trouble with civil aviation,

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« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2010, 11:11:48 AM »
On March 14, 1997 the then opposition MP Keith Rowley brought a motion in the House of Representatives asking that the House condemn the “political use to which the security services are reportedly being put.” The issue arose in the context of allegations that the then Prime Minister Basdeo Panday was spying on the internal workings of the opposition People’s National Movement.

Prime Minister Panday, in the debate on the motion, countered by stating, inter alia, that spying on the opposition had been the norm under other regimes and proceeded to read into Hansard a newspaper article headlined “Manning: We used to spy too” which alleged that Opposition Leader Patrick Manning had admitted “that when his Government was in power, he too used the National Security Council to find out what was happening with other political parties.”

Allegations of government spying and wire tapping are by no means novel in this society. 

From time to time in Parliament opposition MPs have complained that their phones have been tapped and that they are in possession of information that the security services have engaged in illegal wire tapping. 

Perhaps the most notorious event in recent history was the alleged importation in late 2002 by the Office of the Prime Minister of multi million dollar spy equipment reputed to have been purchased from Israel.

Apart from supplying parliamentary rhetoric the question of government surveillance and telecommunication interception raises serious legal questions, a fact which has not been lost on various governments as former Attorneys General Keith Sobion and Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj have both remarked in Parliament on the need for a legal framework governing this area.

However in the absence of statute it would appear, if parliamentary comment is any guide, that the security services have quite happily been engaging in wire tapping and other covert surveillance with little heed being paid to the legality of such conduct. In doing this they would not in any way be unique. 

In England it was apparent that the security services had engaged in seemingly unrestrained wire tapping and other communication interception until some unfortunate member of the prosecution made the mistake of admitting this in court. 

This spawned the infamous Malone decision in which the UK court ruled that there was no right to privacy recognised at common law.  Happily for British citizens, matters did not end there and Malone appealed to the European Court of Human Rights which ruled that police wire tapping was in breach of the right to respect for his private life guaranteed by the European Convention on Human Rights. 

The direct consequence of this ruling was that the government was forced to enact a statutory framework for telephone tapping in the form of the Interception of Communications Act, 1985. 

The right to respect for one’s private life may sound familiar as it exists locally, being one of the fundamental human rights and freedoms protected in our much maligned but still effectual Constitution. The only difference between the UK and the local position appears to be that to date the security services have avoided ever admitting publicly that wire tapping is conducted locally, and in the absence of a judge’s ruling that such conduct is illegal, no one cares to pass the legislation which would regulate this practice.

That the interception of communication by government authorities without statutory authority is illegal seems palpably clear.  Under common law, the action for breach of confidence has since moved past the Malone case and has evolved to the point where it has accepted that “a proper degree of privacy is essential for the well-being and development of an individual and restraints imposed on government to pry into the lives of the citizen go to the essence of a democratic state.” 

Constitutional law as well has noted that an individual must be protected against arbitrary interference with his privacy. The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that respect for private life mandates that individuals be entitled to sufficiently clear “indications as to the circumstances in which and the conditions on which public authorities are entitled to resort to such covert measures.”

So this raises the question as to the way forward.  Until some public authority admits to or is discovered engaging in wire tapping or other covert surveillance and there is judicial and public indictment of the practice, empiricism suggests that Parliament will remain wilfully impotent in this area. 

It seems a pity that such legislation which is so manifestly in the public interest so often finds genesis only in a judicial finding of illegality or unconstitutionality instead of the considered and deliberate resolve of the Parliament of a functioning democracy. That the government should have the power to undertake covert surveillance seems axiomatic. The current trend of kidnappings alone would be justification enough for such powers. 

That such powers should only be exercised with the authorisation of a Judge of the High Court and not at the untrammelled discretion of the executive seems similarly axiomatic. The potential for abuse is too great.  In these matters it behoves us to pay regard to Lord Brown-Wilkinson’s observation that “the dossier of private information is the badge of the totalitarian state.”

 

By Rishi P.A. Dass

The Law Association of Trinidad and Tobago

 

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Prime Minister Kamla Persad Bissessar was a Minster in the Basdeo Panday Cabinet when then Opposition M.P. Dr. Keith Rowley brought the legislation to Parliament. To now claim ignorance on the matter is pure hypocrisy



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« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2010, 11:16:09 AM »
by the way Kamal tell dem about de odder 2 agencis not SSA or SIA dat does report to you daily nah?  Steups  dis woman is a someting else..exposing people and selling out Clement so???

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« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2010, 11:25:03 AM »
by the way Kamal tell dem about de odder 2 agencis not SSA or SIA dat does report to you daily nah?  Steups  dis woman is a someting else..exposing people and selling out Clement so???

Truetrini, yuh being mischievous when yuh spell the woman name wrong, or yuh jess eh realise yuh calling the woman Kamal??.... ;D
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« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2010, 11:34:47 AM »
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Since everybody fraid to say the obvious, "IS MANNING FAULT"!
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« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2010, 12:47:12 PM »
lord Ato, rowley d president, jack and a whole setta people was getting spied on, wow. just hear it. They get rid of some d files before, they get raid. Kamla say they should of use it to fight crime, instead of spying on people. 
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« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2010, 12:58:15 PM »
Peeps d ole Bas did buy d equipment from Israel. All yuh cyah remember Manning bawling like 10 tarzan but 18-18 came and Manning I guess used it.

Dey had d info longgggggg time but de drop it now so all yuh go 4get Fazeer.

Admiral Kellshall actally set it up for Basdeo, Kamla lying hwen she say she eh know about dat..Rowley brought the issue up in Parliament when he was in Opposition and Kamal was in basdeo cabinet...dey lie no arse.

SIA was set up on Long Circular road as de Head Quarters, visitied it myself several times.  They (PNM)took Nigel (Clement) after he come back from canada and send he to wuk with a certain woman who was a Jaycees carnival Queen at one time (me eh calling she name at all, she even get medal from patrick independence day) away from de oil and send he dere after dey expanded the role and increased the man power.

Microwave 360 around T&T, radar, listening devices de whole 9 yards..lol  Spies playing vagrant in POS man liming in rum shop, man join de Jamaat...you name it dem fellas was (trying) doing it.

If a boat leave Venezuela dem did see it.  One time dey was even looking at buying  UAV's and ting, but did get in trouble with civil aviation,



TC wit all dem setta files you have, you should head south and get ah big wukk in parliament  too

just ttell jack you know all de people dat underminin him...and whey dey hide de bugs
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« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2010, 01:02:47 PM »
Peeps d ole Bas did buy d equipment from Israel. All yuh cyah remember Manning bawling like 10 tarzan but 18-18 came and Manning I guess used it.

Dey had d info longgggggg time but de drop it now so all yuh go 4get Fazeer.

Admiral Kellshall actally set it up for Basdeo, Kamla lying hwen she say she eh know about dat..Rowley brought the issue up in Parliament when he was in Opposition and Kamal was in basdeo cabinet...dey lie no arse.

SIA was set up on Long Circular road as de Head Quarters, visitied it myself several times.  They (PNM)took Nigel (Clement) after he come back from canada and send he to wuk with a certain woman who was a Jaycees carnival Queen at one time (me eh calling she name at all, she even get medal from patrick independence day) away from de oil and send he dere after dey expanded the role and increased the man power.

Microwave 360 around T&T, radar, listening devices de whole 9 yards..lol  Spies playing vagrant in POS man liming in rum shop, man join de Jamaat...you name it dem fellas was (trying) doing it.

If a boat leave Venezuela dem did see it.  One time dey was even looking at buying  UAV's and ting, but did get in trouble with civil aviation,



TC wit all dem setta files you have, you should head south and get ah big wukk in parliament  too

just ttell jack you know all de people dat underminin him...and whey dey hide de bugs

I eh know who dey bug, but ah know dey was bugging, I know a lot what was going on, and Kamla real lying sayin she shocked and eh know,,,steups she was right dey when tings was going on

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« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2010, 01:12:39 PM »
If dem Bug Ato, well look at ting..is only talk about who he sexing go get revealed..ah want to see transcripts ah what dey find about Ato..dat is ah whole book right dey...hahahahahahahahha

dat go make Clinton look like Mother Theresa....lol

 :devil: well they say they clean house some time after election, so most of the audio and files missing. they not sure if they get rid of it, or move it
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« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2010, 02:58:36 PM »
Guardian tweeting the names intermittently

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« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2010, 06:23:35 PM »
I glad they spied on them. Atleast now I can go to bed knowing that these ppl in public office who supposedly have "high integrity" and what not, nothing concrete or damaging was ever found on them...If you don't tap public officials phones and other servants of the state then who do you tap?? Start from the top and work your way down I say.. Tap criminals offcourse but before you tap my phone make sure and tap politicians, big business ppl and especially judiciary officials..Spread it to licensing and customs officers too...!!!

And another thing. What country in the world would ever allow a foreign national to walk into their intelligence agencies and shut it down one by one. Why is this Canadian being allowed access to our intelligence, was he recently made a Trinidad and Tobago citizen? Has he sworn allegiance to our flag and our way of life.
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« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2010, 06:39:38 PM »
i hope they was tappin issa nicholas

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« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2010, 06:40:39 PM »
i hope they was tappin issa nicholas

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« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2010, 06:43:28 PM »
Why do they see the need to name the director of this supposedly spy agency. Isn't that putting his and his family's lives at risk. Is this what he signed up for? I pretty much doubt it.

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« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2010, 07:02:42 PM »
Why do they see the need to name the director of this supposedly spy agency. Isn't that putting his and his family's lives at risk. Is this what he signed up for? I pretty much doubt it.

now all those who 'in ting' and now find out they were tapped may go after the fella..

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« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2010, 07:04:19 PM »
This happens in every single country.. you think the CIA didnt maco Obama... steupppsssss
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« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2010, 07:09:54 PM »
And another thing. What country in the world would ever allow a foreign national to walk into their intelligence agencies and shut it down one by one. Why is this Canadian being allowed access to our intelligence, was he recently made a Trinidad and Tobago citizen? Has he sworn allegiance to our flag and our way of life.

he is the police commissioner you know, doh let nationality cloud yuh judgment, plus he was ask to investigate the matter. And he never shut down nothing.

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