Martin Keown: There's only one way to stop Stoke star Kenwyne Jones...bully him!

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Martin Keown: There's only one way to stop Stoke star Kenwyne Jones...bully him!
By Martin Keown
Last updated at 12:59 AM on 28th September 2010

Tony Pulis struggled to find the right striker — he wasn’t happy with Dave Kitson, James Beattie or Tuncay — but Kenwyne Jones looks perfect for him.

He is well suited to Stoke’s direct approach and he is as good a jumper from a standing position as I have ever seen, even though his finishing could be improved.

The best of that type I played against was Les Ferdinand and you had to be strong against him.

It’s very difficult to mark Jones because normally you try to get close to that kind of player so he can’t wriggle free, but he is so strong that he gets to the ball first. Look how he has often got the better of John Terry.

You have to be physical with that kind of striker, bully him and go in hard. You have to stop him finding space — that means blocking him off so he can’t get near the keeper and bringing in a midfielder in front of him.

Newcastle didn’t do that and they made the mistake of having Andy Carroll — a striker — mark him at set pieces. I think your best defender should mark the opposition striker. You can set your team up to stop him, too.

By playing a high line and pressing you are forcing Jones to run in behind you, which isn’t his strength. Sitting deep invites teams to ping endless balls into the box. Inevitably you will concede.


Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1315680/Stoke-star-Kenwyne-Jones-stopped-bullying-him.html#ixzz11104suKT

[fitzinho]

IMO teams dont usually devise strategies to stop shithongs....to quote someone on this board, "play yuh fitball KJ"

[Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$]

IMO teams dont usually devise strategies to stop shithongs....to quote someone on this board, "play yuh fitball KJ"

Ent?!!  Buh he detractors feel different so ah guess he is level tootoo!!! 

[Ngozi]

lol allyuh boy great yes if you apply these tactics on any forward good or bad it will make life more difficult for them to score ... what special about these tactics?
Still cyah score with he foot lol

[KND2]

If Tnt devise the attack around jones and play a direct style he will score some goals especially against central american teams that are weak in the air.

our problem is service and natural tendancy to want to playbuild up football.

if jones was on a team like Spurs he would score much more I rate him more than crouch in the air

With spurs level of service he scoring every day.

He actually is a good finisher
but he cannot creat his own chances.

[Rastaman]

If Tnt devise the attack around jones and play a direct style he will score some goals especially against central american teams that are weak in the air.

our problem is service and natural tendancy to want to playbuild up football.

if jones was on a team like Spurs he would score much more I rate him more than crouch in the air

With spurs level of service he scoring every day.

He actually is a good finisher
but he cannot creat his own chances.

I agree to some extent.....crosses can result from build up play. It dosent have to be direct play/long ball. With direct play there might be no one around to benefit from what Jones can do. Ask Darren Bent.

Spurs have exceptional crosses comming into the box but their play is not direct at all.

[chelsealife]

If Tnt devise the attack around jones and play a direct style he will score some goals especially against central american teams that are weak in the air.

our problem is service and natural tendancy to want to playbuild up football.
 
if jones was on a team like Spurs he would score much more I rate him more than crouch in the air

With spurs level of service he scoring every day.

He actually is a good finisher
but he cannot creat his own chances.

Next season he will be getting those opportunities @ Spurs.  And even defoe is better than crouch in the air. KJ not far off crouch in class though buut has more potential. KJ 4 Spurs 

[Tallman]

If Tnt devise the attack around jones and play a direct style he will score some goals especially against central american teams that are weak in the air.

Who crossing de ball?

[palos]

If Tnt devise the attack around jones and play a direct style he will score some goals especially against central american teams that are weak in the air.

Who crossing de ball?

Birchall

[Tallman]

If Tnt devise the attack around jones and play a direct style he will score some goals especially against central american teams that are weak in the air.

Who crossing de ball?

Birchall

Since when KJ sign wit de Galaxy? 

[palos]

If Tnt devise the attack around jones and play a direct style he will score some goals especially against central american teams that are weak in the air.

Who crossing de ball?

Birchall

Since when KJ sign wit de Galaxy? 

Dey does both play for T&T


when latapy is not coach

[Quags]

IMO teams dont usually devise strategies to stop shithongs....to quote someone on this board, "play yuh fitball KJ"

Well according to the article nobody does .

[Deeks]

I have yet to see a potential mid-field tandem for TT. Not mid, no goals.

[palos]

I have yet to see a potential mid-field tandem for TT. Not mid, no goals.

Potential midfield for T&T

Christopher Birchall and Khaleem Hyland defensive mids

Carlos Edwards wide right

Collin Samuel wide left

Keon Daniel attacking midfielder

[rotatopoti3]

if jones was on a team like Spurs he would score much more I rate him more than crouch in the air

So KND are you saying that Crouch is ah overall better player than KJ ?

[palos]

if jones was on a team like Spurs he would score much more I rate him more than crouch in the air

So KND are you saying that Crouch is ah overall better player than KJ ?

I would say absolutely....AT THIS TIME

[mukumsplau]

If Tnt devise the attack around jones and play a direct style he will score some goals especially against central american teams that are weak in the air.

Who crossing de ball?

Birchall

Since when KJ sign wit de Galaxy? 

[Ngozi]

I have yet to see a potential mid-field tandem for TT. Not mid, no goals.

Potential midfield for T&T

Christopher Birchall and Khaleem Hyland defensive mids

Carlos Edwards wide right

Collin Samuel wide left

Keon Daniel attacking midfielder

Yuh playing with one forward or two?

Yuh playing with one forward or two?
I would replace Colin Samuel with Kevon Carter!

[palos]

I have yet to see a potential mid-field tandem for TT. Not mid, no goals.

Potential midfield for T&T

Christopher Birchall and Khaleem Hyland defensive mids

Carlos Edwards wide right

Collin Samuel wide left

Keon Daniel attacking midfielder

Yuh playing with one forward or two?

Yuh playing with one forward or two?
I would replace Colin Samuel with Kevon Carter!

1 striker.....I could also replace Keon Daniel with Kerry Baptiste or Daryl Roberts....different types of players for sure....Keon more of a playmaker and Kerry & Daryl more of a striker

But my main striker would be KJ and he would need somebody to link up with and he probably will link up better with a much more mobile Kerry Baptiste or Darryl Roberts than a Keon Daniel

I have heard good things about Kevon Carter but I'm giving a FIT Collin Samuel the position because of his experience at a much higher level.

I'm also tempted to push Carlos back to right wing back and replace the wide right position with Cornell Glen.  I really don't see a better wing back on the horizon than Carlos and if J Lloyd holdin it down on the left, we could definitely compete in CONCACAF

My optimal T&T squad with subs

Marvin Phillip with JM Williams as sub

Carlos Edwards right wing back with Jake Thompson as sub

Julius James & Robert Primus central defence with Yohance Marshall, Radanfah Abu Bakr, & Daniel Cyrus as subs

J Lloyd Samuel as left wing back with Akeem Adams as sub

Christopher Birchall & Khaleem Hyland defensive mids with Trent Noel & Clyde Leon as subs

Cornell Glen and Collin Samuel as wide midfielders with Hughton Hector, Kevon Carter,& Hayden Tinto as subs

Darryl Roberts as attacking midfielder with Keon Daniel, Atullah Guerra, Lester Peltier, Andre Toussaint, & Shahdon Winschester as subs

Kenwyne Jones as striker with Jason Scotland, Kerry Baptiste, Jamal Gay, and Devon Jorsling as subs


31 man squad.

Pick yuh best XI from dey.

[kiffysmooth]

I have yet to see a potential mid-field tandem for TT. Not mid, no goals.

Potential midfield for T&T

Christopher Birchall and Khaleem Hyland defensive mids

Carlos Edwards wide right

Collin Samuel wide left

Keon Daniel attacking midfielder

Yuh playing with one forward or two?

Yuh playing with one forward or two?
I would replace Colin Samuel with Kevon Carter!

1 striker.....I could also replace Keon Daniel with Kerry Baptiste or Daryl Roberts....different types of players for sure....Keon more of a playmaker and Kerry & Daryl more of a striker

But my main striker would be KJ and he would need somebody to link up with and he probably will link up better with a much more mobile Kerry Baptiste or Darryl Roberts than a Keon Daniel

I have heard good things about Kevon Carter but I'm giving a FIT Collin Samuel the position because of his experience at a much higher level.

I'm also tempted to push Carlos back to right wing back and replace the wide right position with Cornell Glen.  I really don't see a better wing back on the horizon than Carlos and if J Lloyd holdin it down on the left, we could definitely compete in CONCACAF

My optimal T&T squad with subs

Marvin Phillip with JM Williams as sub

Carlos Edwards right wing back with Jake Thompson as sub

Julius James & Robert Primus central defence with Yohance Marshall, Radanfah Abu Bakr, & Daniel Cyrus as subs

J Lloyd Samuel as left wing back with Akeem Adams as sub

Christopher Birchall & Khaleem Hyland defensive mids with Trent Noel & Clyde Leon as subs

Cornell Glen and Collin Samuel as wide midfielders with Hughton Hector, Kevon Carter,& Hayden Tinto as subs

Darryl Roberts as attacking midfielder with Keon Daniel, Atullah Guerra, Lester Peltier, Andre Toussaint, & Shahdon Winschester as subs

Kenwyne Jones as striker with Jason Scotland, Kerry Baptiste, Jamal Gay, and Devon Jorsling as subs


31 man squad.

Pick yuh best XI from dey.

All yuh goh send up my pressure oui! big steupes wit dis side

[ZANDOLIE]

All yuh goh send up my pressure oui! big steupes wit dis side

Kiffy, besides Theobald, who else missing from palos side?

[100% Barataria]

All yuh goh send up my pressure oui! big steupes wit dis side

Kiffy, besides Theobald, who else missing from palos side?

Palos had Theobald on his side, he jus did not bother to spel out who providing water at half time

[lefty]

All yuh goh send up my pressure oui! big steupes wit dis side

Kiffy, besides Theobald, who else missing from palos side?

Palos had Theobald on his side, he jus did not bother to spel out who providing water at half time

[injunchile]

With Latapy as the coach Theobold on that side. The strikers are KJ and Glen. With no Birchall I would play Roberts behind the strikers.

[Flex]

Sheron: It would be great to see Jones break record.
By: Jonny Abrams (Sport.co.uk).

Stoke City legend Mike Sheron says that he would be delighted to see Kenwyne Jones break his club record of scoring in seven consecutive games.

Sheron managed the feat between March and April 1996 as he went on to secure his place in Potters fans’ affections with 39 goals in 71 starts before joining QPR for £2.75m.

£8m man Jones has now scored in four successive games in what has been a blistering start to his career at the Britannia Stadium, and Sheron insists he would not be bitter about seeing the Trinidad and Tobago centre-forward usurp him in the Stoke history books.

Thisisstaffordshire.co.uk quote Sheron as saying: "I had noticed that Kenwyne had got a few goals, and all with his head.

“Actually, I think a few of mine in that run were with my head, but I he's a bit better in the air than I was.

"He has a lot of attributes. He's got a bit of pace and he obviously knows where the goal is.

"People say records are always there to be broken and I'm sure mine will be broken one day, so why not now?

"It would be great to see him do it. And for him to do it in the Premier League would make it even better."

[Dutty]

All yuh goh send up my pressure oui! big steupes wit dis side

Kiffy, besides Theobald, who else missing from palos side?

Palos had Theobald on his side, he jus did not bother to spel out who providing water at half time

oh gorm

[Rastaman]

I have yet to see a potential mid-field tandem for TT. Not mid, no goals.

Potential midfield for T&T

Christopher Birchall and Khaleem Hyland defensive mids

Carlos Edwards wide right

Collin Samuel wide left

Keon Daniel attacking midfielder

Yuh playing with one forward or two?

Yuh playing with one forward or two?
I would replace Colin Samuel with Kevon Carter!

1 striker.....I could also replace Keon Daniel with Kerry Baptiste or Daryl Roberts....different types of players for sure....Keon more of a playmaker and Kerry & Daryl more of a striker

But my main striker would be KJ and he would need somebody to link up with and he probably will link up better with a much more mobile Kerry Baptiste or Darryl Roberts than a Keon Daniel

I have heard good things about Kevon Carter but I'm giving a FIT Collin Samuel the position because of his experience at a much higher level.

I'm also tempted to push Carlos back to right wing back and replace the wide right position with Cornell Glen.  I really don't see a better wing back on the horizon than Carlos and if J Lloyd holdin it down on the left, we could definitely compete in CONCACAF

My optimal T&T squad with subs

Marvin Phillip with JM Williams as sub

Carlos Edwards right wing back with Jake Thompson as sub

Julius James & Robert Primus central defence with Yohance Marshall, Radanfah Abu Bakr, & Daniel Cyrus as subs

J Lloyd Samuel as left wing back with Akeem Adams as sub

Christopher Birchall & Khaleem Hyland defensive mids with Trent Noel & Clyde Leon as subs

Cornell Glen and Collin Samuel as wide midfielders with Hughton Hector, Kevon Carter,& Hayden Tinto as subs

Darryl Roberts as attacking midfielder with Keon Daniel, Atullah Guerra, Lester Peltier, Andre Toussaint, & Shahdon Winschester as subs

Kenwyne Jones as striker with Jason Scotland, Kerry Baptiste, Jamal Gay, and Devon Jorsling as subs


31 man squad.

Pick yuh best XI from dey.

That is a very good side there Palos. All we need is time for them to play together and gel....a few games against quality opposition and we in de mix......


But we all know this ent happening no time soon 

[palos]

My optimal T&T squad with subs

Marvin Phillip with JM Williams as sub

Carlos Edwards right wing back with Jake Thompson as sub

Julius James & Robert Primus central defence with Yohance Marshall, Radanfah Abu Bakr, & Daniel Cyrus as subs

J Lloyd Samuel as left wing back with Akeem Adams as sub

Christopher Birchall & Khaleem Hyland defensive mids with Trent Noel & Clyde Leon as subs

Cornell Glen and Collin Samuel as wide midfielders with Hughton Hector, Kevon Carter,& Hayden Tinto as subs

Darryl Roberts as attacking midfielder with Keon Daniel, Atullah Guerra, Lester Peltier, Andre Toussaint, & Shahdon Winschester as subs

Kenwyne Jones as striker with Jason Scotland, Kerry Baptiste, Jamal Gay, and Devon Jorsling as subs


31 man squad.

Pick yuh best XI from dey.

That is a very good side there Palos. All we need is time for them to play together and gel....a few games against quality opposition and we in de mix......


But we all know this ent happening no time soon 

De ting wit dat squad is....

Both goalkeepers, 4 of the 9 defenders (we'll need a local based right wing back), 9 of the midfielders (including winchester for now) and 3 of the strikers are all local based players

So yuh could still play yuh friendlies on non FIFA sanctioned dates but de important ting is dat dey playin to a particular system etc.  When man fall een from foreign...is de same system, de theory is dat it will just be better players therefore better execution.
 

[Controversial]

My optimal T&T squad with subs

Marvin Phillip with JM Williams as sub

Carlos Edwards right wing back with Jake Thompson as sub

Julius James & Robert Primus central defence with Yohance Marshall, Radanfah Abu Bakr, & Daniel Cyrus as subs

J Lloyd Samuel as left wing back with Akeem Adams as sub

Christopher Birchall & Khaleem Hyland defensive mids with Trent Noel & Clyde Leon as subs

Cornell Glen and Collin Samuel as wide midfielders with Hughton Hector, Kevon Carter,& Hayden Tinto as subs

Darryl Roberts as attacking midfielder with Keon Daniel, Atullah Guerra, Lester Peltier, Andre Toussaint, & Shahdon Winschester as subs

Kenwyne Jones as striker with Jason Scotland, Kerry Baptiste, Jamal Gay, and Devon Jorsling as subs


31 man squad.

Pick yuh best XI from dey.

That is a very good side there Palos. All we need is time for them to play together and gel....a few games against quality opposition and we in de mix......


But we all know this ent happening no time soon 

De ting wit dat squad is....

Both goalkeepers, 4 of the 9 defenders (we'll need a local based right wing back), 9 of the midfielders (including winchester for now) and 3 of the strikers are all local based players

So yuh could still play yuh friendlies on non FIFA sanctioned dates but de important ting is dat dey playin to a particular system etc.  When man fall een from foreign...is de same system, de theory is dat it will just be better players therefore better execution.
 

jaggy or carter as left wingers, maybe even jaggy as holding mid, birchall dribbling and passing is still suspect, roberts should be an attacking mid, i cant believe we have no tried josh johnson as right winger to this date, i would drop carlos back as right back.

                                phillips


edwards             primus             samuel       adams

                        jagdeosingh/hyland


johnson/thompson            guerra/birchall         hector/carter                 

                               roberts


                                Jones/Glen
 

[ZANDOLIE]

All yuh goh send up my pressure oui! big steupes wit dis side

Kiffy, besides Theobald, who else missing from palos side?

Palos had Theobald on his side, he jus did not bother to spel out who providing water at half time

  doh mind them denz... ah mean kiffy, just knock back two zoloft, everything OK