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The race is not to the swift, but...
« on: October 26, 2010, 08:32:32 PM »
Celtics 88, Heat 80

BOSTON -- First impressions after the Boston Celtics defeated the Miami Heat 88-80 in the NBA season opener Tuesday night at TD Garden:

HOW THE GAME WAS WON
Ray Allen scored a team-high 20 points, connecting on 5-of-8 trifectas, including a monster corner 3-pointer (with LeBron James scrambling to cover) to essentially seal the game with 49.8 seconds to play after the Heat had cut Boston's lead to three. Paul Pierce added 19 points and nine rebounds, while Kevin Garnett produced a double-double with 10 points and 10 rebounds. LeBron scored a game-high 31 points for Miami, while Dwyane Wade chipped in 13 points and Chris Bosh finished with 8.

TURNING POINT
In a cringe-worthy first quarter (in which the teams combined to shoot 29.7 percent) and the Heat mustered a mere 9 points, the Celtics opened a 7-point cushion, but stretched it out early in the second quarter behind the second unit. Marquis Daniels connected on a trio of shots, including two layups and a little pull-up, and Boston's lead ballooned to 31-15 after a fast-break dunk by Nate Robinson.

STAT OF THE GAME
The Heat shot a mere 36.5 percent (27-of-74), including 23.5 percent (4-of-17) in that first quarter. Boston leaned on its defense when it needed it most.

UNSUNG HERO
Glen Davis scored 13 points on 6-of-7 shooting over 29 minutes with Jermaine O'Neal still in preseason form. Davis scored a couple of monster fourth-quarter hoops to keep the Heat at bay.

WHAT IT MEANS
The Celtics, the defending Eastern Conference champs, can continue to state that the road to the conference crown goes through Boston after dispatching the much-ballyhooed Heat (and doing it in convincing fashion). Now the grind of an 82-game season really begins and Boston's veteran roster gets its first taste of a back-to-back Wednesday night in Cleveland. As can be expected, there were positives (Boston's overall defense) and negatives (20 turnovers), but maybe the Celtics' ability to win a big home game -- something it failed to do much of last season -- is most encouraging.
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Re: The race is not to the swift, but...
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2010, 09:12:39 PM »
 :rotfl:

U take in front
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Re: The race is not to the swift, but...
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2010, 08:06:50 PM »
Like ah say, nuttin fuh Miami, not even carnival
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2010, 08:27:34 PM »
I'm a diehard Knickerbocker who detests everything about the post-Knicks Pat Riley (namely the Heat), but I'll be rooting hard for the Miami LeBrons to bring home a title and shut the haters up.

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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 09:05:03 PM »
Like ah say, nuttin fuh Miami, not even carnival

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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2010, 09:40:49 PM »
It gets betta Cleveland beat Boston 2nite
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Re: The race is not to the swift, but...
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 11:46:34 AM »
I'm a diehard Knickerbocker who detests everything about the post-Knicks Pat Riley (namely the Heat), but I'll be rooting hard for the Miami LeBrons to bring home a title and shut the haters up.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2010, 11:30:47 AM »
I'm a diehard Knickerbocker who detests everything about the post-Knicks Pat Riley (namely the Heat), but I'll be rooting hard for the Miami LeBrons to bring home a title and shut the haters up.

wow, we actually have something in common and agree on  :D

however still love the trio of pierce, allan and kg 8)

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2010, 07:32:58 PM »
Up and dong start to the season so far... but understandable given that Wade sat out most of preseason, and that virtually the entire roster is new.  They'll be dangerous.  Another team I like is the Magic... mainly because of Howard.  He seems to FINALLY have raised his offensive game.  Supposedly he working with Hakeem Olajuwon now... wha'ppen he fire Patrick or what? lol



... my poor Knicks.. Carmela whey yuh?

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 03:02:26 PM »
Lakers 5-0 so far and looking good too...I never would've expected Atlanta to be the other unbeaten team in the league but it seems like they're played the lower ranking teams. Anyway Lakers vs Heat looking like it will be worth the hype on Christmas day. Celtics not looking bad either.

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 06:56:03 PM »
Watching my sorry-ass Knicks play the Bulls on TnT right now... not playing too bad, although Derrick Rose juss embarrass we big men with ah sick, two-handed, behind the head dunk.

Knicks keeping it respectable though... might win some games this year.


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Knicks keeping it close...


leading by 18, 70-52 at the half.  Gallinari getting healthy all over the Bulls with 21 pts at the half.


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Game finish 120-112 Knicks


OKC and POR  tied at 100 at the start of OT... good game.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2010, 09:48:19 AM »
carmello would be a nice addition to the knicks, with amare, however i am not holding my breath with the knicks, for the last decade i have been disappointed. a far cry from when i was watching them in the glory days of the  eighties. :-[
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2010, 03:59:27 PM »
Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet.  Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat  ;D
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Re: The race is not to the swift, but...
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2010, 04:38:30 PM »
Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet.  Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat  ;D

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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2010, 08:21:33 AM »
7-0 2 commence d season
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2010, 01:47:44 PM »
Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet.  Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat  ;D

 :rotfl:

tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss

7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see
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Re: The race is not to the swift, but...
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2010, 02:48:16 PM »
Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet.  Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat  ;D

 :rotfl:

tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss

7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see

Dat iz y I post so we go c if is a prophetic statement or a cry from a desperate man.
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Re: The race is not to the swift, but...
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2010, 01:32:41 PM »
Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet.  Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat  ;D

 :rotfl:

tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss

7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see

yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.


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Re: The race is not to the swift, but...
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2010, 01:48:31 PM »
Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet.  Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat  ;D

 :rotfl:

tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss

7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see

yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.



Wait u is a basketball expert as well so who is d new talent from behind d bridge that detiny is d NBA?
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2010, 03:55:18 PM »
Lol... allyuh people chupid yes, lol

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Re: The race is not to the swift, but...
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2010, 05:43:52 PM »
Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet.  Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat  ;D

 :rotfl:

tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss

7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see

yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.



Wait u is a basketball expert as well so who is d new talent from behind d bridge that detiny is d NBA?

Dereck "cornbread" James formerly of National Flour Mills

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2010, 09:12:31 PM »
Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet.  Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat  ;D

 :rotfl:

tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss

7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see

yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.



Wait u is a basketball expert as well so who is d new talent from behind d bridge that detiny is d NBA?

Dereck "cornbread" James formerly of National Flour Mills

Nah I feel he goin wit Pompey Julien..

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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2010, 10:18:13 AM »
It have any area in trinidad where it doh have ah man nickname 'pompey'?
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2010, 06:00:51 PM »
Pompey is we nex draft pick fuh asst coach after de 3-peat  :devil:  BTW, make dat 8 and 0  :devil:
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2010, 10:41:57 PM »
Pompey is we nex draft pick fuh asst coach after de 3-peat  :devil:  BTW, make dat 8 and 0  :devil:

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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2010, 01:20:12 AM »
Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet.  Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat  ;D

 :rotfl:

tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss

7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see

yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.



Wait u is a basketball expert as well so who is d new talent from behind d bridge that detiny is d NBA?

we talking basketball not netball, lakers already have plenty bandwagnonist  :D

never play ball behind the bridge, only watch a few games here and there off of prince,  was too busy playing, high school, rep and university.

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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2010, 02:19:51 PM »
Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet.  Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat  ;D

 :rotfl:

tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss

7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see

yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.



Wait u is a basketball expert as well so who is d new talent from behind d bridge that detiny is d NBA?

we talking basketball not netball, lakers already have plenty bandwagnonist  :D

never play ball behind the bridge, only watch a few games here and there off of prince,  was too busy playing, high school, rep and university.

So u sexist and dotish. U have d inside track on who is bandwaggonist. U can spot them in a crowd on betta yet on a MB  y u eh sell d skill  and make some money.
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2010, 10:37:04 PM »
Allenís 3s carry Celtics past Heat again, 112-107
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ShareretweetEmailPrintMIAMI (AP)óRay Allen(notes) hit his first seven 3-point tries and finished with 35 points, Paul Pierce(notes) added 25 and the Boston Celtics led wire-to-wire in a 112-107 win over Miami on Thursday night, handing the Heat their second straight home loss.
 

AP - Oct 5, 5:53 pm EDT 1 of 5 Bos-Mia Gallery Rajon Rondo(notes) had 16 assists and Kevin Garnett(notes) added 16 points and 13 rebounds for Boston, which led by as many as 20 and beat the Heat for the 13th time in the last 14 regular-season meetings.

LeBron James(notes) finished with 35 points, 10 rebounds and nine assists for the Heat, while Dwyane Wade(notes) was held to eight points on 2-for-12 shooting. The Heat got within 110-107 on Udonis Haslemís(notes) free throws with 13.3 seconds left, but Allen hit a pair of free throws to seal it.

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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2010, 12:07:24 PM »
like i said a little while ago, the celts have the team chemistry, they gelled already as a team.

the heat have not reached that level of comfort around each other, they need this season under their belt and a playoff run, they have only a 10% chance of beating the celts in the playoffs.

the celts will be back to the finals, they are playing some of the best ball i have seen them play since the triple threat has come together.

they have a bonified centre in shaq and a few back ups to give them 15 fouls in the stretch.

the heat need to build that team chemistry, it doesn't come right away. this year will not be their year.

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« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2010, 09:47:28 PM »
uh oh...

Sources: Erik Spoelstra frustrating Heat
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The Miami Heat's players are frustrated with Erik Spoelstra and some are questioning whether he is the right coach for their team, according to people close to the situation. With the ballyhooed Heat losing four of their past five games and sporting a mediocre 9-8 record, the players are privately grumbling about Spoelstra on several fronts.

Sources say the players believe he is not letting them be themselves, that they are questioning his offensive strategies, and that they think he is panicking because he fears losing his job.

We've heard all kinds of reasons why Miami is mediocre. Put the Heat under the microscope, and you'll be amazed with how many factors aren't to blame, writes ESPN.com's John Hollinger. Story

The pressure on Heat coach Erik Spoelstra has been simmering for a while. ESPN.com's Marc Stein has some perspective on where we've been, and where we might be headed. Blog

"Right now, in my opinion, no one is doing a good job," said Heat guard Dwyane Wade, asked Monday about Spoelstra's performance. "We're 9-and-8. We're all in this together. The players are not doing a good job. The coach is not doing a good job."

In contrast to the popular view that Spoelstra has been hesitant to jump on Wade, LeBron James and Chris Bosh, sources say the Heat coach has shown no fear in criticizing them.

Exhibit A was a recent shootaround in which Spoelstra told James that he had to get more serious. The source said Spoelstra called James out in front of the entire team, telling him, "I can't tell when you're serious."

"He's jumping on them," one source said. "If anything, he's been too tough on them. Everybody knows LeBron is playful and likes to joke around, but Spoelstra told him in front of the whole team that he has to get more serious. The players couldn't believe it. They feel like Spoelstra's not letting them be themselves."

But Spoelstra, at the Heat's morning shootaround ahead of Monday night's game against Washington, said players and coaches don't always get along -- and that's normal.

"A coach-player relationship in this league often will be confrontational at times. And other times, it's smooth sailing," he said. "But just the dynamic of the competitive nature of everybody, expectations, results -- all these things combine, yeah, sometimes it will get testy. And that's good. Especially when people have a pure heart and mind about getting better, that just shows that the sides want to make it right."

While he talked about his team's frustration at its play not yet matching its lofty expectations, Spoelstra did not directly respond to the comments.

"If it's an unnamed source, I have no comment about that. That could come from anywhere," he said. "I think the guys in our locker room are pure about what we need to get done and to improve and that's all I'll comment on. Anything else is really just speculation."

Wade said winning will fix everything.

"When success comes we win as a whole," he said. "If we win four in a row, Coach is going to look great. If we have a good December, you're going to be talking about coach of the year. And he might not change a thing."

It is not known whether the players voiced their concerns about Spoelstra during their players-only meeting following Saturday's loss at Dallas. Nor is it apparent whether the bump between James and Spoelstra during a timeout in that game was accidental or a result of tension between the two.

Spoelstra said he "didn't even notice" the bump until it was mentioned after the game.

"Coming out of the timeout, it's a pinball at the game, I'm colliding into a lot of people. So it's probably a perfect case of overspeculation from this team," he said Monday.

"I was fine with that timeout. The fact that guys are not happy about the play, tempers rose, you could see the fire and passion in people's eyes. That's the way it should be," he added. "None of us should be happy about what was going on in the third quarter and taking it in stride."

According to the sources, the Heat players believe Spoelstra's offensive strategies have been too simplistic. They feel like he is running nothing but pick-and-rolls and telling the Heat's secondary players to find open spots on the floor for catch-and-shoot jumpers.

The sources said the players also think the constant speculation about Spoelstra's job security is getting to the third-year coach and that he has resorted to nitpicking over minor details because of it.

"He's not a motivator," one of the sources said. "Instead of coaching he's at the point where the players are starting to sense that he's fearing for his job."

While the players may have their doubts about Spoelstra, it is not clear whether they want team president Pat Riley to coach them. Several people close to the situation said Wade definitely does not want Riley to come down to the sidelines. Sources also said that while recruiting players this past summer, Riley insisted that he would not coach the team.

"Riley kept saying 'Spoelstra's a good coach and he'll grow into a great coach,'" a source said. "He said he got his coaching break [with the Los Angeles Lakers] around the same age as Spoelstra got his."

It is widely believed that Riley does not want to coach this season. However, one source said that privately Riley has at times been critical of the Heat's game plans.

While expectations around the league have started to lessen for the Heat because of their struggles, the sources said the players still have a championship-or-bust mentality for this season and that they are open to whatever changes are necessary to get there.

"Come on, if you lose, no one's going to be happy and nor should they be," Spoelstra said Monday. "Our group is still connected. So we're still trying to work and get better. That's the only thing we're focused on right now. As all the noise starts to raise outside of our circle, we have to stay connected and get through this. It will get better. "

While the players think that may mean a coaching change, one member of the Heat organization said the team is suffering from a lack of leadership from the players, not the coach.

"They don't want to step on each other's toes," the person said. "There's no leader on the team. Somebody has to speak up and be the leader on the team. They can't be afraid to step on people's toes. They need a vocal leader who's going to make everybody accountable. I don't think it's on the coach. It's on the players."

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine. ESPN.com's Kevin Arnovitz contributed to this report from Miami. Information from The Associated Press is also included.
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