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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2010, 11:34:02 AM »
This is a real funny topic because it is easy for people to get offended.

I used to eat sweets right tru...it was only after a few co-workers told me to not eat it and I asked why and they explained the prayers thing to me.

Now my thing is...ent when you go in people house and they bless the food and say grace is the same ting.

But since then I am wary about sweets....but if I go in somebody house I will not scorn their offering.


It is also what you believe......say yuh prayers and give thanks and ask for protection...you will be safe.

This is what I practice.

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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2010, 11:37:31 AM »
This is a real funny topic because it is easy for people to get offended.

I used to eat sweets right tru...it was only after a few co-workers told me to not eat it and I asked why and they explained the prayers thing to me.

Now my thing is...ent when you go in people house and they bless the food and say grace is the same ting.

But since then I am wary about sweets....but if I go in somebody house I will not scorn their offering.


It is also what you believe......say yuh prayers and give thanks and ask for protection...you will be safe.

This is what I practice.

Is it the same as grace where one might be thanking god for it, or is it that it is offered to their god?
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2010, 11:42:04 AM »
This is a real funny topic because it is easy for people to get offended.

I used to eat sweets right tru...it was only after a few co-workers told me to not eat it and I asked why and they explained the prayers thing to me.

Now my thing is...ent when you go in people house and they bless the food and say grace is the same ting.

But since then I am wary about sweets....but if I go in somebody house I will not scorn their offering.


It is also what you believe......say yuh prayers and give thanks and ask for protection...you will be safe.

This is what I practice.

Is it the same as grace where one might be thanking god for it, or is it that it is offered to their god?
Normal grace.

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2010, 11:57:00 AM »
i now going and say this... females are particularly susceptible. I ent being sexist.. is de truth

Not just females, but young teenage girls at that...

So dais why Controversial is such a little beeyotch?  Is hysteria?

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2010, 11:59:29 AM »
Well allyuh hadda cut out that halal beef and chicken allyuh like while allyuh at it.. Go easy on allyuh Patraj and Wings roti.

I couldnt care less nuh, i eh putting all that thought into it, my belly don't discriminate and it tasting good. I was at a Sikh wedding just May gone and there is a part of the ceremony where the pastor goes to every guest and places the sweet in your hand and yuh hadda eat it... I think it would have been grossly disrespectful to turn it away but then i could understand the sentiment.

Anyway, so allyuh saying mass hysteria?

I read the article that FF posted and it not saying much in terms of a scientific basis for a trigger. The man basically saying that it is a psychosomatic illness that takes hold of a group simultaneously, and it must have one to go down first before everyone else follow suit subconsciously. Now i dunno, but that just sound too baseless for my interpretation maybe i need to read into this a little more.

And what of the separate accounts from teacher's, pastors, people in health institutions?

Are we just to dismiss these as exaggerated ramblings from the gossip mill or as the press trumping it up? Ah mean it have people on the ground who seeing it and what taking place and give accounts, within that it must have credible sources.

Allyuh totally willing to dismiss the presence of the unseen? TC, whey yuh?

         

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2010, 12:27:06 PM »
nobody saying spirits doh exist. But before we say is demon thing leh we get some better news. right now is a setta he say she say thing, and people who does jump on devil talk. You cant pass judgement without getting all yuh facts layed out. i learn a long time ago trini people like rumour talk. Remember d children in d container old talk last year?
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2010, 12:42:57 PM »
nobody saying spirits doh exist. But before we say is demon thing leh we get some better news. right now is a setta he say she say thing, and people who does jump on devil talk. You cant pass judgement without getting all yuh facts layed out. i learn a long time ago trini people like rumour talk. Remember d children in d container old talk last year?

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2010, 12:47:37 PM »
nobody saying spirits doh exist. But before we say is demon thing leh we get some better news. right now is a setta he say she say thing, and people who does jump on devil talk. You cant pass judgement without getting all yuh facts layed out. i learn a long time ago trini people like rumour talk. Remember d children in d container old talk last year?
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2010, 01:20:46 PM »
Anyway, so allyuh saying mass hysteria?

I read the article that FF posted and it not saying much in terms of a scientific basis for a trigger. The man basically saying that it is a psychosomatic illness that takes hold of a group simultaneously, and it must have one to go down first before everyone else follow suit subconsciously. Now i dunno, but that just sound too baseless for my interpretation maybe i need to read into this a little more.

Agreed... demon possession sound much more plausible.

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« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2010, 01:23:10 PM »
Anyway, so allyuh saying mass hysteria?

I read the article that FF posted and it not saying much in terms of a scientific basis for a trigger. The man basically saying that it is a psychosomatic illness that takes hold of a group simultaneously, and it must have one to go down first before everyone else follow suit subconsciously. Now i dunno, but that just sound too baseless for my interpretation maybe i need to read into this a little more.

Agreed... demon possession sound much more plausible.
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2010, 01:44:13 PM »
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17 Moruga students in hospital
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Published: 11 Nov 2010

TOP: Students of the Moruga Composite wait for transportation outside the school’s compound yesterday.
ABOVE: One of the Pentecostal pastors leaves the school after he prayed with the students yesterday. Photos: Rishi Ragoonath

Panic broke out at the Moruga Composite School yesterday as 17 female students fell mysteriously ill and began rolling on the ground, hissing and blabbering in a strange tongue, after suffering bouts of nausea and headaches. Two of the students reportedly tried to throw themselves off a railing and had to be physically restrained, triggering fears of a possible demon attack. The drama started during the lunch hour in the Form One block and quickly spread to other areas. Form Five student Kern Mollineau, who attends the Lighthouse Tabernacle Church, said he got worried when the girls’ eyes began rolling up in their heads and they began beating up on the ground.

With the assistance of several other students and teachers, the pupils were taken to the multi-purpose hall where some of them fell into a semi-conscious state. Mollineau recalled: “One girl was blabbering as if in a strange language. I could not understand what she was saying. “It was sounding like ‘shebbaberbebeb shhhhee.’ The girls were unusually strong. We had to hold them down so that they will not hurt themselves. “The teachers were right there. I get a kick in my face when one of the girls started beating up on the floor. Many of them had bruises.” Mollineau claimed he actually communicated with the “devil which had possessed the girl. “I asked the Devil what he wanted with the girls and the voice said he wanted a life. He kept saying to send the girls in the toilet and to leave them alone,” Mollineau claimed.

Roman Catholic priests, as well as pastors from nearby churches, including Josephine Charles, Deborah Charles and Pastor Gordon, visited the school and began showering the children with holy water and prayers. Two more students, Kriston Mollineau and Kishon Bethel, said they too were called by teachers to assist the ill girls. Kriston said the girls complained of headaches and some of them wanted to go to the toilet. Six ambulances arrived at the school accompanied by police teams from the Moruga and St Mary’s Police Post. A party of fire officers from the Princes Town Fire Station, led by acting Assistant Divisional Fire Officer Ramdeo Boodoo visited the school and began conducting several tests on the surroundings to determine the cause of the problem.

Boodoo said there was nothing in the environment to trigger fainting spells, nausea and headaches. A teacher, who requested anonymity, said two weeks ago an Orisha woman came to the school and had a dispute with a member of staff. He said following the dispute, the woman threatened to deal with the school administration. Another teacher said the school was built on a burial site, but neighbours who live around the school denied that was so. A source at the school confirmed that all 17 pupils were taken to the Princes Town Health Facility where they were medically examined. The other students were sent home at 2 pm.

Responding yesterday, Minister in the Ministry of Education Clifton de Coteau said he was aware that pupils had to be taken for medical attention. De Coteau said Student Support Service officials were sent to the school and students were expected to receive counselling. A statement from the Ministry of Education said the Public Transport Service Corporation (PTSC) made maxi taxis available to the school to assist the Office for Disaster Preparedness and Management (ODPM) which provided additional ambulances.

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2010, 01:45:58 PM »
Anyway, so allyuh saying mass hysteria?

I read the article that FF posted and it not saying much in terms of a scientific basis for a trigger. The man basically saying that it is a psychosomatic illness that takes hold of a group simultaneously, and it must have one to go down first before everyone else follow suit subconsciously. Now i dunno, but that just sound too baseless for my interpretation maybe i need to read into this a little more.

Agreed... demon possession sound much more plausible.

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2010, 02:02:11 PM »
1 papers say is a shango spirit lash d next 1 say is a hindu spirit lash.
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2010, 02:11:36 PM »
1 papers say is a shango spirit lash d next 1 say is a hindu spirit lash.

Religion vs. religion, race vs. race, both elements in one bachanal......tell mih this place eh sweet too bad....
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2010, 02:17:33 PM »
1 papers say is a shango spirit lash d next 1 say is a hindu spirit lash.

Religion vs. religion, race vs. race, both elements in one bachanal......tell mih this place eh sweet too bad....

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2010, 02:25:08 PM »
For Bakes and the other lawyers...

Can someone be tried or sent to jail if they cause bodily harm to another via..."a spirit lash"

Is a hard thing to prove but if someone put a hex on another and injury or death occurs...what is the court's stance on this.



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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2010, 02:40:31 PM »
I just heard in passing by a radio that there was a similar occurrence at the school today. 

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2010, 03:01:27 PM »
For Bakes and the other lawyers...

Can someone be tried or sent to jail if they cause bodily harm to another via..."a spirit lash"

Is a hard thing to prove but if someone put a hex on another and injury or death occurs...what is the court's stance on this.



well how you proving that  ???
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2010, 03:02:07 PM »
1 papers say is a shango spirit lash d next 1 say is a hindu spirit lash.

Religion vs. religion, race vs. race, both elements in one bachanal......tell mih this place eh sweet too bad....

my GOD is better than yours  :angel:
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2010, 03:02:12 PM »
For Bakes and the other lawyers...

Can someone be tried or sent to jail if they cause bodily harm to another via..."a spirit lash"

Is a hard thing to prove but if someone put a hex on another and injury or death occurs...what is the court's stance on this.



Well I'z juss ah lowly court stenographer... but from what ah does observe wid de big boy and dem, that is de ting right dey.

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2010, 03:47:20 PM »
I eh think touches was serious wit da question......................was he?
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Anyway touches...wha kinda sweets you talkin bout, like regualr sweetie..in sweetie paper? candy? like jub jub an ting?
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2010, 04:09:11 PM »
1 papers say is a shango spirit lash d next 1 say is a hindu spirit lash.

Religion vs. religion, race vs. race, both elements in one bachanal......tell mih this place eh sweet too bad....

my GOD is better than yours  :angel:


only the emotional wud see it like that. i subscribe to a particular faith and do not relly pay any credence to the others because that to me blatantly belies my own convictions. this in no way influences my behaviour toward persons that practise some other faith. how u take this incident wud rely in part on what you believe in...thats the context in which my analysis wud soak in...in no way can the implication be made that i am showing scorn to another faith as anyone who makes this claim just doin so off of emotion...

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2010, 04:11:11 PM »
1 papers say is a shango spirit lash d next 1 say is a hindu spirit lash.

Well if yuh check de scene....they might be one and the same.

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2010, 04:50:49 PM »
I eh think touches was serious wit da question......................was he?
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Anyway touches...wha kinda sweets you talkin bout, like regualr sweetie..in sweetie paper? candy? like jub jub an ting?

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2010, 05:04:42 PM »
I eh think touches was serious wit da question......................was he?
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Anyway touches...wha kinda sweets you talkin bout, like regualr sweetie..in sweetie paper? candy? like jub jub an ting?

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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2010, 05:15:02 PM »
I eh think touches was serious wit da question......................was he?
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Anyway touches...wha kinda sweets you talkin bout, like regualr sweetie..in sweetie paper? candy? like jub jub an ting?

Since they write that I wondering what is sweets. I know sweetie.
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2010, 05:16:00 PM »
Can someone be tried or sent to jail if they cause bodily harm to another via..."a spirit lash"

Only if it involve yogurt... ::)

If is mass hysteria, then good exorcism would probably could cure them all. The various holy men would have to work together. I wonder if a Christian could exorcise a Hindu demon?
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2010, 05:49:24 PM »
Can someone be tried or sent to jail if they cause bodily harm to another via..."a spirit lash"

Only if it involve yogurt... ::)

If is mass hysteria, then good exorcism would probably could cure them all. The various holy men would have to work together. I wonder if a Christian could exorcise a Hindu demon?

see why religion is trouble, when will the questions stop  ::)
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2010, 06:00:19 PM »
a girl say she drop down, and was hearing names calling in her head and she was repeating it
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Re: Pupils collapse; parents want exorcist
« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2010, 06:22:28 PM »
i now going and say this... females are particularly susceptible. I ent being sexist.. is de truth

Not just females, but young teenage girls at that...
especially if where the girls are is built on limestone /...fact .

 

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