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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #90 on: December 05, 2010, 11:29:20 AM »
Mayor of London Boris Johnson cancels Fifa hotel stay
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11921692

Boris Johnson has withdrawn the offer of a free stay in London's exclusive Dorchester hotel for Fifa executives during the 2012 Olympics.

The Mayor of London had offered the free accommodation for Fifa president Sepp Blatter and his team.

But after Fifa's decision on Thursday's 2018 World Cup vote - which saw the England bid get just two votes out of a possible 22 - the offer was rescinded.

Russia was chosen to host the tournament instead.

Free hotel rooms for VIP guests are handed out by Locog, the Olympic organising committee.

Mr Johnson is understood to have discussed the issue with Locog chairman Sebastian Coe.

The mayor has not commented on the decision to cancel the free stay.

But in the aftermath of the defeat, Mr Johnson, who travelled to Zurich to personally lobby Fifa's executives, said the result was a "big blow and tremendously disappointing".

He added: "We put together a cracking bid, our technical specification was top-notch and our stadiums would have been packed to the rafters."

'Exceptional grace'

A senior government source has told the BBC that at least five executive committee members "personally assured" Prince William and David Beckham they would vote for the England bid, only to back other contenders in the first round.

The Dorchester's website says the hotel "offers rooms of exceptional grace and comfort, all providing views over Hyde Park or the hotel's landscaped terraces".

It continues: "Bathrooms are welcoming and spacious, offering an exceptional combination of style and function, and are said to have the deepest baths in London.

"They are predominantly made in Italian marble and designed in the classic art deco style - echoing the hotel's 1930s origins."

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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #91 on: December 05, 2010, 01:31:28 PM »
Interesting.

The mayor offered complimentary rooms to the FIFA executive for the Olympics while campaigning for the bid to host the 2018 World Cup

Now that Russia has been awarded the 2018 World Cup, the offer for complimentary rooms to the FIFA executive has been rescinded.

Which is tantamount to admitting to trying to bribe the FIFA executive to vote England's way

So who really corrupt?
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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #92 on: December 05, 2010, 01:43:23 PM »
Interesting.

The mayor offered complimentary rooms to the FIFA executive for the Olympics while campaigning for the bid to host the 2018 World Cup

Now that Russia has been awarded the 2018 World Cup, the offer for complimentary rooms to the FIFA executive has been rescinded.

Which is tantamount to admitting to trying to bribe the FIFA executive to vote England's way

So who really corrupt?

All de talk is about Russia's bribes. They only vex because Russia's bribes were bigger.

When England came down for the friendly did they really think Jack wouldnt be collecting a cut from that game?

Similarly they accused Spain/Qatar of collusion, but then openly negotiated with South Korea to swap votes (Korea later blanked them for Russia, supposedly for political support on the North Korean conflict).

Having said that, if Jack lied to de man's face, he has every right to act petty.

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« Reply #93 on: December 05, 2010, 06:44:23 PM »
Interesting.

The mayor offered complimentary rooms to the FIFA executive for the Olympics while campaigning for the bid to host the 2018 World Cup

Now that Russia has been awarded the 2018 World Cup, the offer for complimentary rooms to the FIFA executive has been rescinded.

Which is tantamount to admitting to trying to bribe the FIFA executive to vote England's way

So who really corrupt?

Dey all corrupt some just undercover.
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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #94 on: December 06, 2010, 12:46:44 PM »
STEVEN HOWARD - Chief sports writer

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How quickly they forget-found this little side note from the Sun

We reaped what we sowed


THE wailing and gnashing of teeth continues.


Now there are reports that England's 2018 bid leader Andy Anson claimed at a private dinner last January that 13 FIFA executive committee members were 'buyable'.


If so, why did the FA continue to prostrate themselves at FIFA's feet, apologising for the Sunday Times investigation that exposed corruption within the organisation... and then slamming allegations on the Panorama programme that itemised its extent?


Most astonishing of all is the naive bleating that ExCo members reneged on promises to vote for England. What short memories we have.


One of the most infamous of all occasions when a country went back on its avowed intent to support another nation in a World Cup bid ... involved us! At the 1994 World Cup draw held in Las Vegas 12 months earlier, UEFA were determined to strip England of the 1996 European Championship because of our hooligan problem. To our rescue came Germany.


They went out of their way to ensure we still hosted the tournament - provided we backed them for the 2006 World Cup.


FA chairman Bert Millichip gave his promise.


Following the success of Euro 96, we shamefully backtracked and decided to contest the 2006 event. An incandescent Franz Beckenbauer said: "It used to be my privilege to shake hands with an honourable England captain called Bobby Moore.


"Then I, too, believed in the integrity of English sportsmanship. I have never been more saddened."


Now we have the gall to complain about others letting us down.


What hypocrisy.

 

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Please can you forward the following message to Jack Warner
« Reply #95 on: December 06, 2010, 01:14:14 PM »
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« Reply #96 on: December 06, 2010, 01:18:17 PM »
Ah get dis e-mail on Friday

date   Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:34 AM
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Jack you F**king Coward and Fiddling Cu*t how much have the Oil men paid you this time. TWAT

Lol! Well, did you forward it?

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« Reply #97 on: December 06, 2010, 02:35:39 PM »
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There was considerable concern when Jack Warner, the Minister of Works and Transport in the People’s Partnership Government, was appointed to office. How would it be possible for this man to hold on to executive office in two major sporting organisations and serve the country at Cabinet level?

Legal advice was sought from several high-level sources and in the end, the Prime Minister appointed Warner to the job, arguing that he had to be wooed to accept the position. Jack Warner, in addition to being a Minister of Government, is the President of Concacaf, the regional body governing football and Vice President of Fifa, football’s parent body, which has specific responsibility for the World Cup competition.

It is also widely alleged that his deep pockets played a decisive role in funding the successful election of the new coalition government. At the time of his appointment, the concern was about potential conflicts of interest and divisions of time. Today, in the wake of Warner’s key role in the voting that decided Russia’s hosting of the World Cup in 2018, the questions around Warner’s role in government became one of international diplomacy.

It would not be a stretch to describe the Fifa Vice President’s name as being mud in England today, as the humiliated nation which gave the world the game seeks to reconcile its failed bid to host the 2018 World Cup with the many gestures it made to Warner. It is a matter of public record that nations pursuing the role of World Cup host will engage in a number of courtship dances with officials holding voting power in Fifa and that these engagements have sometimes proven to be at best unsavoury and on occasion, simply corrupt.

The English overtures to Jack Warner included a football clinic hosted by David Beckham on local soil for young football hopefuls, an English football team friendly match in Trinidad and Tobago and as the time grew closer for voting, much more intimate efforts at persuasion. British Prime Minister David Cameron himself flew to Zurich for a one-on-one meeting with Jack Warner the Tuesday before the FIFA voting as part of a final campaign of meetings with Fifa officials.

In Zurich, Jack Warner was widely reported in the UK media to have put his arm around Prince William and assured him that his vote would be for England. The fallout since England’s snub in the voting has been fierce and unequivocal. The general tone of UK reporting on Jack Warner, an elected official of T&T’s ruling party who has twice acted as Prime Minister, is best summed by Daily Mail columnist Martin Samuel who described him as “the duplicitous, odious FIFA vice-president who has been allowed to rule the world from Trinidad and Tobago.”

The impact of this situation is not to be underestimated, nor is the anger and embarrassment of the English. While there’s nothing that England can do to him in FIFA beyond the thousands of words written chronicling his perceived betrayal, this country remains vulnerable to potential diplomatic retribution from the British, however subtle.

Specifically, there is the matter of air passenger duty being imposed by the British Government on travellers to the Caribbean region. Prime Minister Cameron had called Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar from Zurich after his round of meetings with Fifa officials in a situation which clearly mixed both of Warner’s roles. In the wake of the fallout since the vote announcements, that may turn out to be a critical misjudgment in that negotiation—and may prove especially telling for the parts of the Caribbean heavily dependent on tourism from the UK.

In Warner’s defence, there is clearly a sustainable point that, despite the inducements lavished on him by the British, he voted for the country he believed provided the best possibilities for World Cup 2018. He could also argue that it was naive for the British to believe that a friendly international, a visit by a fading football icon and the chance to meet with a junior member of the English Royal family would have been enough to persuade him and the two other Concacaf votes. In fact, some may see it as an ethical feather in Mr Warner’s cap that he resisted the English blandishments, despite the potential diplomatic consequences of his decision.
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« Reply #98 on: December 06, 2010, 02:46:54 PM »
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In fact, some may see it as an ethical feather in Mr Warner’s cap that he resisted the English blandishments, despite the potential diplomatic consequences of his decision.

But did he 'resist' these "blandishments"... or did he take them and then betray the hopes of the English, as seems to be the case.  In any even, very good even-handed editorial, something that's not often associated with journalism in TnT... the Guardian least of all.

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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #99 on: December 06, 2010, 03:32:28 PM »
De man say we ent have no football history oui. HHMC!!! No World Cup for Englan ass!!

People's emotions getting the better of them... he said Trinidad is a country with virtually no football history.  Our 102 years of football matters only to us... the only other times we've made any kind of international noise was in 1973 and 2006, can't even count 1990.  We already prove over and over that we are not a footballing nation... but nothing offends like the truth.

Surprisingly... Bates echoes my thoughts.  Just earlier this evening I saying England should just decide to give the World Cup a rest.  Let FIFA have they toy.  It would never happen of course, but at least on principle.  What going on with the TTFF in Trinidad is a microcosm of FIFA on the whole... dictatorial exercise of power without even the slightest pretense of objectivity.  Forget about the deceit pulled on England by Warner, is anyone seriously willing to argue that England's bid was so bad that all they could muster was two first-round votes?

I understand people hate England and the US but put yuhself in their situation and the anger and sense of betrayal are understandable.  Jack Warner will mess with the wrong person one of these days... and there might eventually be some accounting to be made by the other 23 ExCo members as well.

The fact that our(TnT) football matters only to us is irrelevant. 102 yrs is 102 yrs. Had Warner and his boys voted for England to host the WC, this asshole would have been singing TnT's football praises, bigging we up; talking bout how lil TnT hold mighty Sweden to a goalless draw and how lil TnT hold mighty England to a draw for 82+ mins, and how we were the smallest nation ever to qualify for the WC etc.
But because Warner pull ah Warner in dey c*#t  now TnT have "virtually" no football history...steeuuuppps. My original statement stands...HHMC!!!
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« Reply #100 on: December 06, 2010, 04:05:53 PM »
De man say we ent have no football history oui. HHMC!!! No World Cup for Englan ass!!

People's emotions getting the better of them... he said Trinidad is a country with virtually no football history.  Our 102 years of football matters only to us... the only other times we've made any kind of international noise was in 1973 and 2006, can't even count 1990.  We already prove over and over that we are not a footballing nation... but nothing offends like the truth.

Surprisingly... Bates echoes my thoughts.  Just earlier this evening I saying England should just decide to give the World Cup a rest.  Let FIFA have they toy.  It would never happen of course, but at least on principle.  What going on with the TTFF in Trinidad is a microcosm of FIFA on the whole... dictatorial exercise of power without even the slightest pretense of objectivity.  Forget about the deceit pulled on England by Warner, is anyone seriously willing to argue that England's bid was so bad that all they could muster was two first-round votes?

I understand people hate England and the US but put yuhself in their situation and the anger and sense of betrayal are understandable.  Jack Warner will mess with the wrong person one of these days... and there might eventually be some accounting to be made by the other 23 ExCo members as well.

The fact that our(TnT) football matters only to us is irrelevant. 102 yrs is 102 yrs. Had Warner and his boys voted for England to host the WC, this asshole would have been singing TnT's football praises, bigging we up; talking bout how lil TnT hold mighty Sweden to a goalless draw and how lil TnT hold mighty England to a draw for 82+ mins, and how we were the smallest nation ever to qualify for the WC etc.
But because Warner pull ah Warner in dey c*#t  now TnT have "virtually" no football history...steeuuuppps. My original statement stands...HHMC!!!

If England had won, Jack Warner would have been forgotten immediately and TnT would never get another mention.

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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #101 on: December 06, 2010, 04:33:02 PM »
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In fact, some may see it as an ethical feather in Mr Warner’s cap that he resisted the English blandishments, despite the potential diplomatic consequences of his decision.

But did he 'resist' these "blandishments"... or did he take them and then betray the hopes of the English, as seems to be the case.  In any even, very good even-handed editorial, something that's not often associated with journalism in TnT... the Guardian least of all.

He took them, but did not let them affect his decision.  The man has principles!

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Re: Please can you forward the following message to Jack Warner
« Reply #102 on: December 06, 2010, 07:09:49 PM »
Ah get dis e-mail on Friday

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Jack you F**king Coward and Fiddling Cu*t how much have the Oil men paid you this time. TWAT

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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #103 on: December 06, 2010, 07:25:47 PM »
Interesting.

The mayor offered complimentary rooms to the FIFA executive for the Olympics while campaigning for the bid to host the 2018 World Cup

Now that Russia has been awarded the 2018 World Cup, the offer for complimentary rooms to the FIFA executive has been rescinded.

Which is tantamount to admitting to trying to bribe the FIFA executive to vote England's way

So who really corrupt?

People only see what they want.

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« Reply #104 on: December 07, 2010, 12:27:51 PM »
Warner blames English media
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FIFA vice-president Jack Warner claims there is no way FIFA could have awarded the 2018 World Cup to England after the way the press behaved in the run-up to the vote.

The Sunday Times exposed corruption inside FIFA and then just three days before the committee sat to decide who would host the finals the BBC's Panorama threw more mud at world football's governing body - with Warner one of those explicitly accused of impropriety.

England gained just one vote other than that of their own delegate on the committee, losing the three votes which Warner had been expected to give to England from the CONCACAF region. But Warner chose not to support the bid after the allegations.

Warner revealed on Tuesday: "Suffice it to say that the FIFA ExCo as a body could not have voted for England having been insulted by their media in the worst possible way at the same time. To do so would have been the ultimate insult [to FIFA].''
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« Reply #105 on: December 07, 2010, 12:52:47 PM »
Warner blames English media
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FIFA vice-president Jack Warner claims there is no way FIFA could have awarded the 2018 World Cup to England after the way the press behaved in the run-up to the vote.

The Sunday Times exposed corruption inside FIFA and then just three days before the committee sat to decide who would host the finals the BBC's Panorama threw more mud at world football's governing body - with Warner one of those explicitly accused of impropriety.

England gained just one vote other than that of their own delegate on the committee, losing the three votes which Warner had been expected to give to England from the CONCACAF region. But Warner chose not to support the bid after the allegations.

Warner revealed on Tuesday: "Suffice it to say that the FIFA ExCo as a body could not have voted for England having been insulted by their media in the worst possible way at the same time. To do so would have been the ultimate insult [to FIFA].''


Fifa and Jack have not an ounce of shame in dey body! Now dey rubbin it in!

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« Reply #106 on: December 07, 2010, 12:57:11 PM »
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In fact, some may see it as an ethical feather in Mr Warner’s cap that he resisted the English blandishments, despite the potential diplomatic consequences of his decision.

But did he 'resist' these "blandishments"... or did he take them and then betray the hopes of the English, as seems to be the case.  In any even, very good even-handed editorial, something that's not often associated with journalism in TnT... the Guardian least of all.

He took them, but did not let them affect his decision.  The man has principles!


I wonder if he have time to be President of the Integrity Commission?
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« Reply #107 on: December 07, 2010, 01:10:56 PM »
i'm surprised Warner has come out with this statement that the English media were the reason why England only got one vote

that's tantamount to an admission that Russia didn't win on solely on merit
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« Reply #108 on: December 07, 2010, 01:13:52 PM »
i'm surprised Warner has come out with this statement that the English media were the reason why England only got one vote

that's tantamount to an admission that Russia didn't win on solely on merit

wit all d talk people does put forward dat jack shrewd an smart an ting, he damn dotish yuh know, it defeats me as to why many does miss dat ???
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« Reply #109 on: December 07, 2010, 01:34:21 PM »
i'm surprised Warner has come out with this statement that the English media were the reason why England only got one vote

that's tantamount to an admission that Russia didn't win on solely on merit

wit all d talk people does put forward dat jack shrewd an smart an ting, he damn dotish yuh know, it defeats me as to why many does miss dat ???

man smart too bad...muddy de waters...blamin the media does only distract from the real issue

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« Reply #110 on: December 07, 2010, 02:07:34 PM »
i'm surprised Warner has come out with this statement that the English media were the reason why England only got one vote

that's tantamount to an admission that Russia didn't win on solely on merit

wit all d talk people does put forward dat jack shrewd an smart an ting, he damn dotish yuh know, it defeats me as to why many does miss dat ???

man smart too bad...muddy de waters...blamin the media does only distract from the real issue

I beginnin to like this vampire oui...wrong and fackin strong is he game


Ent! Not only that, the English virtually prostituted themselves to entice him and he ride dem like a old donkey in plain view, so he can't use the ethics card. Blaming the press also serves 2 functions. It presents him as having every intention to back the English bid until the press sullied him. And it is an attempt IMO to exact some revenge by throwing blame upon a particular set of journalists that plague him as well as to muddy the waters.

Maybe now people will begin to take a more critical look at some of FIFAs questionable practices.
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« Reply #111 on: December 07, 2010, 08:11:48 PM »
Jack is a dictator of the rawest order! Period.

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« Reply #112 on: December 07, 2010, 10:16:21 PM »
Alyuh feel jack plan was to also screw over the black listed players in England .
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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #113 on: December 08, 2010, 01:03:39 AM »
Warner explains why he voted against England .  He blames Andrew Jennings  :rotfl:
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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #114 on: December 08, 2010, 04:06:08 AM »
i'm surprised Warner has come out with this statement that the English media were the reason why England only got one vote

that's tantamount to an admission that Russia didn't win on solely on merit

wit all d talk people does put forward dat jack shrewd an smart an ting, he damn dotish yuh know, it defeats me as to why many does miss dat ???



man smart too bad...muddy de waters...blamin the media does only distract from the real issue

I beginnin to like this vampire oui...wrong and fackin strong is he game


Personally don't think it has anything to do with muddying the waters more a broadside at the media and a rather crude attempt at censorship.  Basically saying anybody who critercises FIFA gets nowt, so leave us alone. 

Nothing we already didn't know.  It would of been better for them if they had just said that before the vote rather than promising votes in the 1st place.


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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #115 on: December 08, 2010, 08:23:40 AM »
i'm surprised Warner has come out with this statement that the English media were the reason why England only got one vote

that's tantamount to an admission that Russia didn't win on solely on merit

wit all d talk people does put forward dat jack shrewd an smart an ting, he damn dotish yuh know, it defeats me as to why many does miss dat ???



man smart too bad...muddy de waters...blamin the media does only distract from the real issue

I beginnin to like this vampire oui...wrong and fackin strong is he game


Personally don't think it has anything to do with muddying the waters more a broadside at the media and a rather crude attempt at censorship.  Basically saying anybody who critercises FIFA gets nowt, so leave us alone. 

Nothing we already didn't know.  It would of been better for them if they had just said that before the vote rather than promising votes in the 1st place.



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« Reply #116 on: December 08, 2010, 10:48:48 PM »
Blatter blasts England as bad losers
December 8, 2010
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FIFA president Sepp Blatter has branded England as "bad losers" as the fallout over the awards of the 2018 and 2022 World Cups continues.


Russia won the right to host the 2018 tournament and Qatar the 2022 version, while England, who were rated highly by FIFA's own technical report, attracted a paltry two votes despite the last minute lobbying efforts of Prime Minister David Cameron, Prince William and David Beckham.

It led the acting chairman of the Football Association, Roger Burden, to remove his application for the job on a permanent basis after he claimed he could no longer trust FIFA's members.

England's bid chief Andy Anson then suggested Blatter had instructed his members to vote a certain way after stories about FIFA corruption appeared in the British media. England's team was also disappointed that votes promised to them failed to materialise.

But Blatter is nonplussed by England's reaction, telling Swiss magazine Weltwoche: "To be honest, I was surprised by all the English complaining after the defeat. England, of all people, the motherland of fair play ideas.

"Now some of them are showing themselves to be bad losers. You can't come afterwards and say so and so promised to vote for England. The results are known. The outcome came out clearly.

"I really sense in some reactions a bit of the arrogance of the western world of Christian background. Some simply can't bear it if others get a chance for a change.

"What can be wrong if we start football in regions where this sport demonstrates a potential which goes far beyond sport?"

Blatter also rejected claims that corruption still remins within FIFA, even though two members of football's governing body were suspended after an investigation by the Sunday Times alleged they had offered to sell their votes.

Further fuel was added to the fire due to the fact that the two winning bids, Qatar and Russia, were given poor technical reports but Blatter said: "There is no systematic corruption in FIFA. That is nonsense. We are financially clean and clear."

But Blatter did admit there needed to be changes in the organisation: "We need to improve our image. We also need to clarify some things within FIFA," he added.

But he insisted he would not still be president when the Qatar World Cup comes around in 2022: "Definitely not. If God wills it, I will be invited to the opening party on crutches or in a wheelchair."
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« Reply #117 on: December 09, 2010, 04:19:44 AM »
WTF????    I really sense in some reactions a bit of the arrogance of the western world of Christian background.

Is Blatter trying to say that religeon is a factor now? OK, Qatar may not be Christian, but theres an awful lot of Christians in Russia!  So what is Blatter....Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Mormon (or should that be Moron?)

I can't help thinking that the more FIFA speaks about this, the more shady it looks. They can't be seen to punish England for having a free press, its been accepted that the English bid was one of the better ones, so theyre throwing up all kinds of smokescreens to hide the truth.

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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #118 on: December 09, 2010, 08:25:33 AM »
WTF????    I really sense in some reactions a bit of the arrogance of the western world of Christian background.

Is Blatter trying to say that religeon is a factor now? OK, Qatar may not be Christian, but theres an awful lot of Christians in Russia!  So what is Blatter....Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Mormon (or should that be Moron?)

I can't help thinking that the more FIFA speaks about this, the more shady it looks. They can't be seen to punish England for having a free press, its been accepted that the English bid was one of the better ones, so theyre throwing up all kinds of smokescreens to hide the truth.

I'm trying to understand what he meant by that statement or why he felt it important or necessary to utter such a statement.
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Re: Warner gives Cameron a lesson in the brutal realities of FIFA politics
« Reply #119 on: December 09, 2010, 08:43:04 AM »
WTF????    I really sense in some reactions a bit of the arrogance of the western world of Christian background.

Is Blatter trying to say that religeon is a factor now? OK, Qatar may not be Christian, but theres an awful lot of Christians in Russia!  So what is Blatter....Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Mormon (or should that be Moron?)

I can't help thinking that the more FIFA speaks about this, the more shady it looks. They can't be seen to punish England for having a free press, its been accepted that the English bid was one of the better ones, so theyre throwing up all kinds of smokescreens to hide the truth.

I'm trying to understand what he meant by that statement or why he felt it important or necessary to utter such a statement.

Personally I feel is de same reason jack trow out de blame de english media ting..

blatter know conventional wisdon dese days is the west vs the muslim world does be front and center  op-ed pieces in major newspapers............why not open a whole can of worms dat have nuttn to do with the issue at hand

Dem  fellahs is classic smoke and mirrors mafia men
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