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From the Trinidad Express:

Did the People's Partnership break its promise of multi-million-dollar prizes for Carnival winners?
By Ria Taitt Political Editor

Story Created: Jan 12, 2011 at 12:50 AM ECT

Story Updated: Jan 12, 2011 at 12:50 AM ECT

As he confirmed the $2 million prize money for the four major competitions (Panorama, Soca Monarch, Chutney Monarch and Calypso Monarch) will only be for this year, Minister of Multiculturalism Winston "Gypsy" Peters yesterday insisted the People's Partnership Government did not break its election promise.

Speaking to the Express by telephone, Peters said the Government was giving exactly what was promised on its election platform.

"The Prime Minister made a statement that she wanted to give the steelband, the Calypso Monarch, the Chutney Monarch and the Soca Monarch $2 million in prize money. She made that promise and she only made it this year," he said.

Responding to statements from the People's National Movement (PNM) that it was an open-ended promise, not a one-year promise, Peters asked: "Who made the promise? The PNM or us? We made a promise! And I am telling you what promise we made. They (PNM) could say what they want!"

Reminded that the electorate was told the prize money would be increased to $2 million, Peters said: "Nobody never say that. The Prime Minister said this year they going to get that ($2 million). And I made it clear exactly what it was, what she was saying. She never tell anybody that she was leaving any prize at $2 million indefinitely. She did not say that!"

Asked whether it was being given for this year only as part of the celebration of the People's Partnership election victory, Peters said: "I don't know if it is to celebrate that. But I would think that it could form part of the celebration."

He said he had explained to stakeholders that it was only for one year from the very beginning.

However, speaking at the People's Partnership election rally at the Aranjuez Savannah on May 22, two days before the election, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar told a massive crowd: "Today, I pledge to you as well that all the competitions which showcase the talent of our land, whether it be the Chutney Monarch, the Soca Monarch, the Panorama finals... in all these competitions ..., I pledge to you today that in true equality and justice, that the first prize for all these competitions will be $2 million...and that is how we will rise together, every creed and race; we will rise!"

On the controversy over the reduction in the steelband players' fee from $1,000 to $800, Peters reiterated since Pan Trinbago was getting an extra million dollars from the Government for this year, it could use this to give its membership the $200 difference.

Asked what would happen next year when this extra $1 million is not available to Pan Trinbago, Peters said they would "have to revert to what they are accustomed doing". Will Government then revert to the $1,000 players' fee? Peters said he had stated "one million times" that he did not believe that people should be paid to play in the Panorama preliminaries.

"When people have attained something; let's say you have gotten to the semi-finals, I don't mind paying you $1,000. But you cannot pay people for being in the preliminaries. That is my take on this whole thing," he said.

Peters added that people talked about their love of pan but asked where is this love of pan if money was the only motive for entering the steelband preliminaries. He said he was not in favour of the Government paying anyone to enter the preliminaries of any competition whatsoever.

"Like everybody else who enters a competition, the preparation for going into that competition is the individual's expense... It is your expense," he said.

However, he said while he was not in favour of paying any money to players for the preliminaries, he had made a compromise by agreeing to give $800. Furthermore, he said Government gave $20,000 and $10,000 to every unsponsored steelband, based on their size, in preparation for Panorama.

Peters said the country had other needs to service apart from the steelband. Government had to put beds in the hospital, feed hungry children, fix the roads and put water in the taps, he said.

"So we cannot be frivolously spending money all over the place," he said.

He said pan had all year to make money through its innovative ways.

"Everything in this country is, 'The Government must pay for that; the Government must give me this; the Government must give me that.' Come on! This country doesn't have as much money as we used to have. And if we go to spend it foolishly, we would be back in the same position that we are in now," he said.

He added Government must spend the money wisely and allow people to become independent.

On the PNM's position that support for the steelband was a valuable investment in economic growth and diversification because it brought tourists to the country, Peters said tourists came to this country to see people dance the bele, to play mas and to hear people sing calypso.

"People come here for a variety of reasons. People don't come here for one thing... They come here for Carnival...for a combination of things. And steelband is one aspect of our culture. It is one component of Carnival," he said.

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Re: "A promise is a promise" backed by "A 6 for a 9" THE $2M QUESTION
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2011, 08:12:40 AM »
At least is not a misprint this time. So things lookin up.
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Re: "A promise is a promise" backed by "A 6 for a 9" THE $2M QUESTION
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2011, 09:48:24 AM »
On the controversy over the reduction in the steelband players' fee from $1,000 to $800, Peters reiterated since Pan Trinbago was getting an extra million dollars from the Government for this year, it could use this to give its membership the $200 difference.



 ??? ???well is now i confused...who really getting the extra 1 million...pan trinbago or the pan champion of 2011??
If...
chief justice ivor archie say so
ex-chief justice sharma say so
law assoc pres martin daly say so
transpareny institute say so
Ken Gordon say so
jones p say so....then is so!!!

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Re: "A promise is a promise" backed by "A 6 for a 9" THE $2M QUESTION
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2011, 01:05:22 PM »
On the controversy over the reduction in the steelband players' fee from $1,000 to $800, Peters reiterated since Pan Trinbago was getting an extra million dollars from the Government for this year, it could use this to give its membership the $200 difference.



 ??? ???well is now i confused...who really getting the extra 1 million...pan trinbago or the pan champion of 2011??

Pan champs
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Re: "A promise is a promise" backed by "A 6 for A 9" THE $2M QUESTION
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2011, 01:09:56 PM »
so gypsy want the 2011 pan champs to share up the 1 million among all pan players??  ::)
If...
chief justice ivor archie say so
ex-chief justice sharma say so
law assoc pres martin daly say so
transpareny institute say so
Ken Gordon say so
jones p say so....then is so!!!

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Re: "A promise is a promise" backed by "A 6 for A 9" THE $2M QUESTION
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2011, 07:15:02 PM »
so gypsy want the 2011 pan champs to share up the 1 million among all pan players??  ::)

see impulse new tune

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Re: "A promise is a promise" backed by "A 6 for A 9" THE $2M QUESTION
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 07:54:16 PM »
so gypsy want the 2011 pan champs to share up the 1 million among all pan players??  ::)

see impulse new tune

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/YkwlB8jeEmA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/YkwlB8jeEmA</a>

I think this song is going to be a road march contender if our ministers keep this up!! 
Now Gypsy get jealous and jump in the curry talk!! 8)

If they try to ban this song it will only get more popular! Why because it is clear that Impulse is singing the truth!! ;)
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Re: "A promise is a promise" backed by "A 6 for A 9" THE $2M QUESTION
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2011, 08:15:37 AM »
so gypsy want the 2011 pan champs to share up the 1 million among all pan players??  ::)

see impulse new tune

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"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

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Re: "A promise is a promise" backed by "A 6 for A 9" THE $2M QUESTION
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2011, 05:16:45 AM »
From:Newsday.

$2M should include mas too

Sunday, January 16 2011

Four-time band of the year winner Brian Mac Farlane is disappointed with the decision to exclude mas competitions from receiving the $2 million first prize promised to pan, soca, calypso and chutney 2011 Carnival competitions by Government this year.

Arts and Multiculturalism Minister Winston Peters confirmed in a report on Wednesday the $2 million first prize promised for Soca, Calypso and Chutney Monarch and Panorama during the People’s Partnership elections campaign last year was only for competitions this year.

Speaking to Newsday, Mac Farlane said any increase should be done across the board.

“What makes mas any less than calypso and pan? I think it takes the three elements to make Carnival because it is nothing without mas, soca or pan so the three should be treated equally,” he said.

He added the one-off payment of the $2 million prizes shows the need for a better approach to the development of Carnival.

“Government should look at providing grants for mas bands creating authentic local mas to help offset the cost of labour, renting the mas camp, materials and other costs,” Mac Farlane said.

He said the first prize for large band of the year is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of producing his mas band which he estimates to range between $2-$2.8 million to create.

“A soca artiste spends much less to produce a song but they will be able to win $2 million,” he said, adding that bands usually go to banks to get loans and try to source funding from private sponsors to start producing mas each year.

President for the National Carnival Bands Association (NCBA) David Lopez echoed similar sentiments, saying not enough went into Government’s decision.

“I do not think much thought went into making this offer but there is still room to correct it,” he said.

He also confirmed the association met with Peters last month and asked whether the $2 million first prize would be extended to the mas fraternity.

“We met with the minister in a cordial meeting and he spelt out that the promise was made to Calypso, Chutney, Steel and Soca monarch competitions and the Prime Minister did not say anything about mas. So we intend on continuing as normal,” he told Newsday. “At the rally where the promise was made, Kamla Persad-Bissessar praised a top band leader for the work done at that venue and there was a big mas presentation. Mas was in everyone’s face there so I cannot second guess if it was an oversight or not.”

NCBA, he said, receives $6.7 million from Government to sponsor prizes for 12 competitions. These include Senior and Junior bands of the Year and the King and Queen of Carnival.

Among the major prizes, the large band of the year receives $300,000, medium band of the year gets $175,000, small band of the year gets $90,000 and mini band of the year gets $40,000. King and Queen of Carnival receive $120,000 each and the Junior band of the year prizes range from $4,000 to $20,000 according to the category.

Junior large band-of-the-year winner, Rosalind Gabriel also said it was disturbing that mas was not going to receive the $2 million first prize.

She said the fact that prizes for placing in the finals of these competitions remained the same over the years was also cause for concern.

William Munro, head of the Caribbean Prestige Foundation(CPF) which produces the Soca Monarch competition said he prefers not to comment of the report that the $2 million prize is a one time occurrence. He said however that the incentive of a $2 million translates to a real improvement in all material produced for competitions.
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