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Minor League Offenders Thread.
« on: January 13, 2011, 03:02:13 PM »
Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
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St. Ann’s Rangers head coach Anthony Streete says he hopes other top flight coaches will follow example after his club axed four players in breach of contracts with “minor league” appearances.

Over a week ago Rangers released regular starters Adrian Narine, Clevon McPhie and brothers Josimar and Elijah Belgrave following continued appearances in the Eddie Hart Football League said Streete.

“I hope the other coaches follow the example,” Streete said. “We have to stamp the authority and watch eachother’s back.

“I know a lot of players from other Pro League clubs who are participating in minor leagues and they are still representing their clubs.

“Then we ask, how come the crowds don’t come to the Pro League games. I pleaded with my players over appearances in minor leagues, but they continue doing it and we had no choice but the release them.”

Streete went on to add that clubs in the League agreed at board level to take such steps in clamping down minor league appearances by players.

Rangers ranked 8th on the 2010-2011 Digicel Pro League standings will face Police FC from 6pm at the Larry Gomes Stadium in Round Two Match Day Six.

Four more games left in the Championship and seated in the bottom half with just 9 points, Streete still has reasons to well.

“We have to look at rebuilding now,” he explained. “We have brought up some players from the reserves to train with the senior team and they could get their opportunity in our remaining games to prove themselves as we look towards next season.

“We are also trying hard to finish with at least 17 points. We want to still pressure on other teams and show that we are a team for the future,” said the Rangers coach, dismissing the lay down and die attitude.

Following their meeting against Police on Saturday, Rangers will meet Joe Public, FC SouthEnd and Defence Force in their last three League matches.

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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2011, 03:44:13 PM »
This is sad because they not paying these players thats why they have to find money somewhere else.
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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2011, 03:52:52 PM »
This is sad because they not paying these players thats why they have to find money somewhere else.

You may be right about that. They moonlighting!!!!!!

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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011, 04:51:09 PM »
You are right about that!! My padnah say he was not getting he salary and the times he did, it was not on time. Sad :-\
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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2011, 04:59:14 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2011, 10:17:01 PM »
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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2011, 02:37:26 AM »
This is sad because they not paying these players thats why they have to find money somewhere else.


If you are foolish enough to be in a contract where you are not being paid and not take pressing action then you are to blame.

If there were news reports on tv6 saying the Rangers not paying players and players boycott, then its understandable.

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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2011, 10:47:04 AM »
This is sad because they not paying these players thats why they have to find money somewhere else.


If you are foolish enough to be in a contract where you are not being paid and not take pressing action then you are to blame.

If there were news reports on tv6 saying the Rangers not paying players and players boycott, then its understandable.

If they had joined FPATT, maybe that would not have happened. Everybody want to freelance and moonlight.

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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2011, 12:56:48 PM »
This is sad because they not paying these players thats why they have to find money somewhere else.


If you are foolish enough to be in a contract where you are not being paid and not take pressing action then you are to blame.

If there were news reports on tv6 saying the Rangers not paying players and players boycott, then its understandable.

If they had joined FPATT, maybe that would not have happened. Everybody want to freelance and moonlight.

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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2011, 12:59:15 PM »
This is sad because they not paying these players thats why they have to find money somewhere else.


If you are foolish enough to be in a contract where you are not being paid and not take pressing action then you are to blame.

If there were news reports on tv6 saying the Rangers not paying players and players boycott, then its understandable.
       So what you all trying to say,Minor League paying players and the clubs not?so they going their because of the money.Minor League could pay enough money for these guys to make a living on?what kind of money they paying?what kind of money Minor League Football making that they can pay players,them fellas eh making no money there,that's old talk,as a Footballer it just feels good playing Minor League Football,you get an agenilin rush i wish you could feel that way when playing for your national team.

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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2011, 07:56:59 PM »
Josimar Belgrave has made mistakes from since he youth days. Another talent like Jerol Forbes who head was bigger than they game. Josimar could have gone far, he was a decent player but lack discipline.

Rangers dont have the money to even drop players, in a week or two I bet Streete call them back.

Who remember Ma Pau banning Rennie Britto, they put they best player on de transfer list and never bother with it again, he still they, big and bad.

T&T players is fools but de men who run de football is more fools, them is fool, fool...

So how can anything work ? them players must be laughing all now, because they know is only a matter of time Anthony Streete come begging....

Rangers is a community team and produce good young players, but most of them are not discipline and the discipline ones move on to better teams, de owner for Rangers killing that club.
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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 10:47:39 AM »
This is sad because they not paying these players thats why they have to find money somewhere else.


If you are foolish enough to be in a contract where you are not being paid and not take pressing action then you are to blame.

If there were news reports on tv6 saying the Rangers not paying players and players boycott, then its understandable.

If they had joined FPATT, maybe that would not have happened. Everybody want to freelance and moonlight.

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Re: Rangers axe four for minor league appearances
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2011, 09:11:25 AM »
I hear Clevon McPhie never had a contract in de first place so how can he get cut ?
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2013, 07:58:26 PM »
Joevin Jones & Daneil Cyrus playing in minor league.

W Connection staff saying Joevin needs rest and they see he playing Minor League in Carenage yesterday. How the hell you could be a professional under contract, a National team player, performing poorly for your club in CCL & yet showing up and playing minor league.

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2013, 09:35:17 PM »
Wasn't Jones the scorer for Connection in their 1 nil win over Police yesterday?, so when did he play that game in Carenage? Just asking!!!

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2013, 05:30:07 AM »
Jones goal lifts Connection over Police; Central, Caledonia in stalemate.
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DIRECTV W Connection on Saturday needed an early second half Joevin Jones' goal to overcome Police FC 1-0 at the Ato Boldon Stadium. And in the second match of the Digicel Pro League Round One Match Day Two double header at the Couva venue, Central FC and Caledonia play goalless draw.

The results saw Connection (6 points) return to the top of the standings, with a better goal difference than Point Fortin Civic (6 points) which edged North East Stars 1-0 on Friday night at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

Behind them are the unbeaten Central (4 points) in third, Stars and San Juan Jabloteh in fourth and fifth respectively with 3 points, Caledonia in sixth with 1 point, and defending champions Defence Force (receiving the bye on the weekend), Police and St. Ann's Rangers are all at the bottom without a point.

Rangers were the sorest of losers on the weekend, when the St. Ann's club allowed Jabloteh to flip a 4-1 deficit into a 6-5 win in the first match of Friday's double header at the Port of Spain venue.

On Saturday, Jones, wearing the captain's armband this season, completed a quick Connection counterattack in the 49th minute to give his side a 1-0 advantage, and what turned out the match winner.

The 22 year-old Trinidad and Tobago player collected a Jomal Williams pass inside the area and slipped the ball through the legs of a fully-spread goalkeeper Adrian Foncette who only managed to get a bit of leg to the ball.

But it wasn't such a bad night for Police, with a generally improved showing from last weekend's 4-1 defeat against Point Fortin Civic.

Connection, which hammered Rangers 7-0 last weekend, were limited by the "lawmen".

It was only until the 20th minute that Kurt Frederick, scorer of a hat-trick against Rangers, was a bit more ambitious than his teammates in the opening stages, when he turned into the area and had a right footed effort just wide.

Two minutes later on the opposite end, Police forward Elijah Belgrave had an opening, but his tame attempt at goal was easily wrapped by goalkeeper Alejandro Figueroa.

It was an opportunity to do much better after he was played into the area by Todd Ryan following Joel Kevin Lewis' win of the ball on the right.

Lewis had a go at goal himself in the 24th minute but Figueroa well positioned again for a comfortable take.

But it was Connection that had the best opening of the half in the 38th minute when Neil Benjamin Jr. returned a cross from the left to pick out Jones in the centre of the area, but goalkeeper Adrian Foncette was brilliant in gloving out the midfielder's effort for a corner.

Even after Jones' winning item four minutes inside the second period, Police, with Karlon Murray in the heart of defense, and Trent Noel and Todd Ryan muscling the midfield, managed to restrain the "Savonnetta Boys" for the remaining period.

Connection had one real crack at goal from midfielder Gerard Williams which flashed overbar from 25 yards out in the 83rd minute, and a wide effort by substitute Jamal Clarence near the end.

The second match between Central and Caledonia was intensely contested, which contributed to the score-line.

Caledonia's league debuting front-man Kithson "Bully" Bain seemed to have walked into the butcher's shop against Central defender Jamal Jack, who showed no mercy against the Grenada international who was replaced by Jamal Gay in the 65th minute.

Caledonia, just as Connection, coming off disappointing Concacaf Champions League results during the week, failed to put Central goalkeeper Jan Michael Williams into any real action.

While the Terry Fenwick coached-Central failed to make the best of their chances.

In the 45th minute 19 year-old striker Dwight Quintero was picked out by a Darren Mitchell cross from the left, but his header was overbar.

And five minutes into the second period, a right side free-kick by Jason Marcano, following a foul on Quintero by Nuru Abdullah Muhammad, was missed by three diving Central players around the six yard area.

Mitchell later had a wide effort in the 78th minute and veteran midfielder Marvin Oliver headed a Marcano corner wide of the far post a minute from time.

Results

W Connection 1 - 0 Police FC
Joevin Jones 49'

Teams

W Connection - 21. Alejandro Figueroa, 10. Joevin Jones (C), 2. Kurt Frederick, 3. Gerard Williams 4. Daneil Cyrus, 6. Celio Da Silva Santos (14. Hashim Arcia 46th), 65. Neil Benjamin Jr., 24. Joao Ananias Jordao Jr. (25. Christian Ocoro Viveros 70th), 26. Stefano Rijssel (17. Jamal Clarence 46th), 40. Jomal Williams (Yellow Card), 15. Mekeil Williams.

Unused substitutes - 18. Julani Archibald, 7. Silvio Spann, 28. Yhon Stiven Lopez, 39. Alvin Jones.

Coach - Stuart Charles Fevrier.

Police FC—18. Adrian Foncette, 21. Todd Ryan, 4. Karlon Murray, 8. Akiba Peters, 2. Jasimar Ashers (Yellow Card), 6. Kenaz Williams, 10. Trent Noel, 38. Tafari Williams (19. Christon Thomas 74th), 39. Joel Kevin Lewis (11. Kareem Perry 70th), 20. Elijah Belgrave (15. Jameel Perry 78th), 25. Kemron Purcell.

Unused substitutes—31. Theon Browne (G), 27. Dwayne Salazar, 40. Jabari Williams, 9. Keon Quow.

Coach—Richard Hood.

Match Referee - Rodphin Harris.

Results

Central FC 0 - 0 Caledonia AIA.

Teams

Caledonia AIA - 33. Glenroy Samuel, 7. Stephan David (C), 2. Aubrey David, 3. Nuru Abdullah Muhammad (Yellow Card), 5. Akeem Thomas, 6.Marcus Ambrose (8. Keron Bethlemy 83rd), 12. Kareem Joseph, 11. Abdallah Phillips (9. Keyon Edwards 70th), 21. Densill Theobald, 27. Nathan Lewis, 10. Kithson Bain (23. Jamal Gay 65th).

Unused substitutes - 1. Shemel Louison (G), 24. Kevaughn Connell, 22. Miguel Alejandro Romeo, 20. Noel Williams.

Coach - Jamaal Shabazz.

Central FC - 21. Jan Michael Williams, 7. Jason Marcano (C), 2. Elton John, 3. Keion Goodridge, 9. Dwight Quintero (Toric Robinson 65th), 10. Marvin Oliver, 11. Darren Mitchell, 12. Jamal Jack, 13. Johan Peltier (16. Akil DeFreitus 76th), 17. Rundell Winchester, 24. Akeem Benjamin.

Unused substitutes - 25. Javon Sample (G), 4. Julio Noel, 15. Kaydion Gabriel, 22. Keon Trim, 23. Hector Sam.

Coach - Terry Fenwick.

Match Referee - Michael London.

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2013, 05:30:28 AM »
W Connection staff saying Joevin needs rest and they see he playing Minor League in Carenage yesterday. How the hell you could be a professional under contract, a National team player, performing poorly for your club in CCL & yet showing up and playing minor league.



Not saying its true, but I too heard something similar.

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2013, 08:08:38 AM »
Maybe his club allows him to play minor league?

if they dont have an issue I dont have an issue

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2013, 09:34:10 AM »
Maybe his club allows him to play minor league?

if they dont have an issue I dont have an issue

But if true this adds more fuel too the opinion held by some that the Pro-league is jus a big 'pappy show'.

Such practices would never be allowed in any of the major leagues across the globe. I could understand if Jones was a fringe player and rarely got selected or was coming back from an injury and working on his fitness/match sharpness. In fact, I would go as far as saying that no Team that consider's itself a fully professional outfit would ever risk allowing key players to play for other teams while also playing for their first team.

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2013, 10:27:28 AM »
Maybe his club allows him to play minor league?

if they dont have an issue I dont have an issue

I know for sure that W Connection has a strict policy where playing minor league is concerned. Many players have had their contracts terminated and I see these same players & others making the rounds playing for other Pro League teams. I would hate to believe that Jones would have taken that chance knowing the Club's position but I await further info. However in my opinion the only way to prevent this is for "All Clubs" to take a united stand against Pro Footballers playing minor league.

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2013, 10:38:52 AM »
Maybe his club allows him to play minor league?

if they dont have an issue I dont have an issue

But if true this adds more fuel too the opinion held by some that the Pro-league is jus a big 'pappy show'.

Such practices would never be allowed in any of the major leagues across the globe. I could understand if Jones was a fringe player and rarely got selected or was coming back from an injury and working on his fitness/match sharpness. In fact, I would go as far as saying that no Team that consider's itself a fully professional outfit would ever risk allowing key players to play for other teams while also playing for their first team.
    How many teams in T&T are fully professional outfits compared to professional teams across the globe?what is the salary of a professional Footballer in T&T?it have guys playing pro and working CEPEP,pulling bull etc  i don't see the difference between that and Minor league Football,when you check teams like Point Fortin finding jobs for their players and these players have to work when the day comes,train every evening and compete.

   What people have to understand this is T&T and we have to work with what ever situation and condition confronts us,we can't compare with what they doing across the globe else we will not play Football,again check Point Fortin they gone back in times and bring back the good old days they playing nice Football and have the biggest crowd/following,no money could achieve that it's all about community.   

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2013, 10:56:44 AM »
I don't see why this is an issue,nobody sure if the guy played Minor League Football or not,i can't believe he played for his club and Minor League Football on the same day.

This issue about players playing Minor League Football is a big joke,i remembered since in my time as a player the TTFA used put restrictions on us concerning Minor League Football and we still used to play,nobody got banned or anything.

The same thing is happening now,the clubs have restrictions on it but the Pro League does not,i remember Fenwick banning Marvin Oliver when he was at Jabloteh only to see now he at Central Marvin is the first player he call.

T&T is too small for all these restrictions on players,palyers not playing enough Football and Minor Leagues fill the gaps,imagine College players are in the same situation.

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2013, 12:08:00 PM »
T&T is too small for...
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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2013, 12:15:52 PM »
Thanks for saying that coops.

people talk bout pro league but your salary is 2000TT a month

People talk about pro league but you have to take a maxi to go to the game no team bus.

you get to the field and no dressing room to change your clothes before you train

they dont even have ice to put on your foot if you get a knock.


Yet still people quick to say in england pro league players dont play minor league and trinidad too back ward.


Fact is if it was real proleague like in england you would not have time to play minor league football because your schedule is set minute by minute 7 days a week for the 9 months in season.

Your ass is being bussed from game to game location to location, training to training

cant even find time to do anything except play football for your big team.

That is real pro league.

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2013, 03:15:02 PM »
Coops and others, you guys might know more than I do about these stuff....

Ok, what is the purpose of playing Minor league?

Do these players get paid or they just do this to have fun?

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« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2013, 07:15:50 PM »
You get paid for playing minor league....small money

U get to play in front if vibrant crowd

And most of all u get neighborhood pips

But if u serious as a professional u should have the discipline to stay away.


Unless of course ur proteam allows it.

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2013, 09:00:06 PM »
Minor League Football has a place in the development of T&T Footballers past and present,every Footballer this country produce came from the Minor leagues,we had no coaching schools,academies,we often complain about the Coaches we have,yet for decades we keep producing some of the best,where they coming from.

Long before we had a Pro League players have been getting paid to play Minor League Football,that's where everything started that's not anything new.We can't take that away from our Footballers,it's tradition,it's cultural,it's also a means for Footballers to socialize and lime,it brings communities together,it even keeps kids of the streets.

Every Footballer played Minor League Football but they eh sure to play Pro or Premier League Football,i could see if you making big money fine but why not play in leagues where you can develop your skills and have fun at the same time.


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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2013, 06:18:04 AM »
Good talk Coops, but de game change now and so to we should change our culture about the way we think when it comes to football, the world left us behind and we have to stop thinking backaday mentality.

On de flip side of that, I guess de salaries for players have to rise and clubs have to go back to their communities for players to change their mentalities.

It would be a hell of a thing if Joevin suit up to play Savannah football and get get injured. I guess, pappieshow football is more important than Pro, no wonder some of our better talents does end up playing T&T Pro ball all they life and de one who make de sacrifice does move on to bigger things.

De Jemmot syndrome.

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Re: Joevin Jones
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2013, 09:16:03 AM »
I remember the LaForest's Kenny Joseph and Sammy playing in the Carenage league in the 70's,for Motown's Brazilians,that was huge on aSunday afernoon
Coops I do not recall you playing with that outfit...did you

 

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