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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2011, 10:03:07 PM »
AB what the  :cursing: was that?

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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2011, 12:50:31 AM »
The only time I've seen this kind of inventive thinking in the ProLeague this season was when Kevaughan Cornell was switched from striker to attacking left wing back (watch him for North East tomorrow). He definately  needs to get a spell in the national squad. But to be fair, there may be others that I don't know about.

He come back again?

Yeah, he's been playing at North East since the latter part of Round 1. Very exciting going forward from left back. Still learning the position, he's gotta learn the defensive role a bit more,  but he's loving it.

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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2011, 12:57:52 AM »
Even if Brazil used other infuences to bring their own style to birth ...their mix up breed football evolved into a superior breed.....which is prolly why they are liked and disliked by so many football purists. Some clap them for being a non European power house while Europeans despise the fact that they made a game that slaves can play better.
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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2011, 06:23:00 AM »
Good points by many, especially Deeks.
Don't forget that on the point of technical ability, if there were not such an extensive chronic repetitive blacklist, there would be many gifted players to choose from. That is an understated point which must be factored in. Deeks addressed partially it in the sentence: " ..... Never count out the TFA/TTFF to F-up things also.... "

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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2011, 06:23:23 AM »
Ryan you don't think Europeans despise the fact that they're losing out to South American teams. I always get the sense when listening to commentators in Europe that they are in awe of the South Americans but would much rather see a European in the spot light or would over rate an ok European(BALE, OWEN) ......not to sound racist or anything of the sort but one seems to get the sense of "We Made It So We Should Have The Best" ......its the same in the administrative side.....when European bids for World Cups are rejected by FIFA it is almost blasphemous. You always get the sense that the believe they are better than anything outside Europe(which is why everyone loves brazil because they go against the "Euro Babylon System")

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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2011, 06:47:08 AM »
Ryan you don't think Europeans despise the fact that they're losing out to South American teams. I always get the sense when listening to commentators in Europe that they are in awe of the South Americans but would much rather see a European in the spot light or would over rate an ok European(BALE, OWEN) ......not to sound racist or anything of the sort but one seems to get the sense of "We Made It So We Should Have The Best" ......its the same in the administrative side.....when European bids for World Cups are rejected by FIFA it is almost blasphemous. You always get the sense that the believe they are better than anything outside Europe(which is why everyone loves brazil because they go against the "Euro Babylon System")


And they're currently the third largest Growing economy behind China and India go brazil!!!!!

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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2011, 08:27:07 AM »
Gotta say, Rocopoly, you do kinda sound a little racist there! (Not to say the people you're talking about aren't)

One of the saddest boasts of English supporters is that England gave football to the world by introducing it through their empire building.

Football has always belonged to the poorest people. And when Britain colonised, it was passed along

You are right that England feels it should host a world cup, and I'd be happy for you to explain why that should not be. Logic, and most global supporters, think England should host.

In my experience, most British fans love to watch Brazil. There is a hatred in some areas of Argentina due to Maradona's hand of God. They loved Cameroon's success and generally, due to their exposure to top players from all over the world, like to see new teams doing well. If you created a "hate" list it would actually include mostly European teams, particularly Germany, Portugal, France and Spain because these countries have fought wars with Britain for hundreds of years.

I think English admire flair, and that tends to come from the South Americans and Africans. The fact is, any man, from any country likes to see his countrymen do well, which is probably why you hear English commentators big up English players. Its really nothing more sinister than that.

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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2011, 09:40:38 AM »
Ryan you don't think Europeans despise the fact that they're losing out to South American teams. I always get the sense when listening to commentators in Europe that they are in awe of the South Americans but would much rather see a European in the spot light or would over rate an ok European(BALE, OWEN) ......not to sound racist or anything of the sort but one seems to get the sense of "We Made It So We Should Have The Best" ......its the same in the administrative side.....when European bids for World Cups are rejected by FIFA it is almost blasphemous. You always get the sense that the believe they are better than anything outside Europe(which is why everyone loves brazil because they go against the "Euro Babylon System")

How about alot of people in T&T back the African teams or Brazil because there is a recognizeable representation of "people who look like us"...Nobody wants to say it, but it's part of it....It's not racist per se (at least not in a hateful way), and it has nothing to do with resentment that the former slaves are better than their former masters either or vice versa... It just human association, and tribalism that exists within all of us.  Many Brits will promote Bale over Messi because they feel more represented by Bale...Same way people on this site overrate Dwight York and Latapy in proportions that are often ridiculous!!!

Anyway this has nothing to do with whether Trinidad adopts a Dutch style of play....
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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2011, 11:38:43 AM »
People are always quick to criticize our players technical ability but having played in college and seeing some of the best US players....our players are even more technical and gifted than some of the players on the US youth pool. Our problem has always been staying consistent.....one night Hayden Tinto would like like a super star and on the other night he would look like a huge flop....Kenwyn Jones suffers from the same problem ....Cornell Glenn who looks like a world beater some nights will flop the next night.....the funny thing is players in the National Pool are not shitty and terrible as ppl make them out to be.....consistency comes with discipline and discipline can also be added from a philosophy........think about outside Trinidad and Inter Milan....they had the same players the year before they won the Champions league but those same players adopted a philosophy and stuck to it and it paid off. Which is why it is important for Trinidad to adopt a philosophy or style and implement it from the grass roots up. So all the ppl who are saying we don't have the talent ...its not that....its because we don't have Discipline/a set mandate to follow

excellent reply

people are quick to condemn our players, when they should look at system and show some confidence in them and a coach that can take them to the next level. we don't have the coach to take us to the next level, maybe now we do, but it has always been a case of coaching and the system, never the talent or pool of players

rocoply , ah hope you know that if TI agree with your point of view then that means that most people disagree with it.
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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2011, 12:53:36 PM »
People are always quick to criticize our players technical ability but having played in college and seeing some of the best US players....our players are even more technical and gifted than some of the players on the US youth pool. Our problem has always been staying consistent ...

i don't understand what you mean by this. what are you considering technique? imo if your technical ability is not consistent then it isn't mastered. in other words, the man who's technique is more consistent therefore has better technical ability.

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Re: Is Dutch style Trinidad's adopted style?
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2011, 01:31:11 PM »
People are always quick to criticize our players technical ability but having played in college and seeing some of the best US players....our players are even more technical and gifted than some of the players on the US youth pool. Our problem has always been staying consistent ...

i don't understand what you mean by this. what are you considering technique? imo if your technical ability is not consistent then it isn't mastered. in other words, the man who's technique is more consistent therefore has better technical ability.

I will even dare say is the better footballer

 

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