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Re: Majar Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2011, 12:22:53 PM »
IN the BBC video that Jumbie posted I saw a man standing on a bridge watching the water wipe away about 100 vechicles...ah say but dis man brave, what if that bridge collasped due to excessive force.

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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2011, 01:24:03 PM »
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2011, 02:52:44 PM »
184 dead, 722 hurt, 530 missing after 8.9 edit: i hear is 350 dead now


Houses lie flattened after a powerful earthquake in Iwaki, f**kushima prefecture.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/11/live-blog-japan-earthquake/
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2011, 03:16:59 PM »
Japanese nuclear reactor in peril
By Steven Mufson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 11, 2011; 2:46 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/11/AR2011031103673.html

Japanese authorities and the U.S. military on Saturday were racing to find ways to deliver new backup generators or batteries to a nuclear power reactor whose cooling facilities have been crippled by a loss of power as a result of the earthquake.

The reactor, owned by Tokyo Electric Power Co., is currently drawing on battery power that may last only a few hours. Without electricity, the reactor will be unable to pump water to cool its hot reactor core, possibly leading to a meltdown or some other release of radioactive material.

Japanese authorities informed the International Atomic Energy Agency's Incident and Emergency Center that they have ordered the evacuation of about 3,000 residents within a 1.9-mile radius of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, and told people within a 16.2-mile radius to remain indoors, according to the IAEA Web site.

The cooling problem is with the second of six reactors at the plant, located on the east coast of Japan about 200 miles north of Tokyo and south of the heavily damaged town of Sendai. Separately there were reports of elevated radiation levels inside the control room of one of the other reactor units, which was built 40 years ago. Sources said that the authorities were contemplating venting from that unit.

Altogether, 11 Japanese nuclear reactors shut down automatically as they are designed to do in case of an earthquake.

"The multi-reactor Fukushima atomic power plant is now relying on battery power, which will only last around eight hours," said Kevin Kamps, a specialist in nuclear waste at Beyond Nuclear, a group devoted to highlighting the perils of nuclear power. "The danger is the very thermally hot reactor cores at the plant must be continuously cooled for 24 to 48 hours. Without any electricity, the pumps won't be able to pump water through the hot reactor cores to cool them."

"There's a basic cooling system that requires power, which they don't have," said Glenn McCullough, former chairman of the Tennessee Valley Authority who has been keeping track of the situation in Japan. He said that as a result of the tsunami, water had gotten into the diesel generators that would otherwise have provided backup power.

In a statement that confused nuclear experts, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Friday morning that U.S. Air Force planes in Japan had delivered "coolant" to a nuclear power plant affected by the quake. Nuclear reactors do not use special coolants, only large amounts of pumped water.

"They have very high engineering standards, but one of their plants came under a lot of stress with the earthquake and didn't have enough coolant," she said, "and so Air Force planes were able to deliver that." It remained unclear what the Air Force had delivered.

Just hours after the quake, Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) declared a heightened state of alert at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, according to the IAEA. NISA said that no release of radiation has been detected.

The evacuation comes after NISA said Friday that a fire broke out at the Onagawa nuclear power plant but was later extinguished.

The plant is about 45 miles north of the city of Sendai, which was badly damaged by the deadly earthquake and tsunami that hit Japan Friday afternoon. Sendai is the population center nearest the epicenter of the quake, and Japan's Kyodo News agency said that more than 200 bodies had been found so far near the city.

The three reactors at the Onagawa site remained closed.

The key buildings in the Onagawa plant are about 15 meters above sea level, according to the Web site of Tohoku Electric Power, owner of the plant. The company said that was about twice the height of the previous highest tsunami.

Japanese authorities told the IAEA that that the Onagawa, Fukushima-Daini and Tokai nuclear power plants shut down automatically, and no radiation release has been detected. The plants have multiple nuclear reactors.

The IAEA said it is seeking details on Fukushima Daiichi and other nuclear power plants and research reactors, including information on off-site and on-site electrical power supplies, cooling systems and the condition of the reactor buildings. Nuclear fuel requires continued cooling even after a plant is shut down, the IAEA noted.

"This is the most challenging seismic event on record, so it is a severe test," said McCullough. "Clearly the Japanese government is taking this very seriously."

Staff writer Mary Beth Sheridan contributed to this report.
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Re: Majar Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2011, 03:45:05 PM »
BBC news have a video of the tsunami moving across the sea....man if POS get that the wave reaching all Cascade and St Anns.

Lewwe pray we never get dat down here.



Lemme know if this is a stupid question .  Wouldn't that Venezuelan peninsula cushion most of the effects a tsunami on the West coast of Trinidad ? And wouldn't the northern range block most densely populated areas from damage. Trinidad's Eastern Coast would suffer great damage from a Tsunami on that side. It is worth noting that while this area is the least densely populated of the island we have significant energy  infrastructure off the South East Coast of Trinidad .

Tobago looks like its at much greater risk on either coast. Earthquake-wise I really don't know what we going and do. We due for a big one and amount of bobol and corners cut in construction as well as the generally state poor planning, we're in for destruction and loss of life on a massive scale.   

 

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Re: Majar Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2011, 04:07:45 PM »
BBC news have a video of the tsunami moving across the sea....man if POS get that the wave reaching all Cascade and St Anns.

Lewwe pray we never get dat down here.



Lemme know if this is a stupid question .  Wouldn't that Venezuelan peninsula cushion most of the effects a tsunami on the West coast of Trinidad ? And wouldn't the northern range block most densely populated areas from damage. Trinidad's Eastern Coast would suffer great damage from a Tsunami on that side. It is worth noting that while this area is the least densely populated of the island we have significant energy  infrastructure off the South East Coast of Trinidad .


our plate runs between Venezuela and Trinidad , we dont stand a chance if we get hit with a big one , why yuh think it have a gap between Trinidad and Venezuela, is because of that plate shifting  :-\ . That whole west coast in trouble







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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2011, 04:27:25 PM »
The Caribbean plate runs through Trinidad

The southern Caribbean plate boundary with the South America plate strikes east-west across Trinidad and western Venezuela and is characterized by major strike-slip faults (e.g., El Pilar and Boconó faults) and shallow seismicity, resulting from relative plate motion of about 20 mm/yr.


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/poster/regions/caribbean.php


“Trinidad is in an area where two of the world's few crustal, tectonic plates meet. Southern Trinidad lies on the South American plate, while northern Trinidad lies on the Caribbean plate. (There's a thing few realize: drive from Port of Spain to San Fernando and you go from the Caribbean to South America, the actual point of passing from one to the other not being far north of the Forres Park Flyover.)

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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2011, 04:33:17 PM »
The Caribbean plate runs through Trinidad

:( that even worse
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2011, 04:38:19 PM »
Clearly we don't stand a chance from a large earthquake on that line. My question was in relation to the threat of a tsunami in particular.

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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2011, 05:10:31 PM »
Clearly we don't stand a chance from a large earthquake on that line. My question was in relation to the threat of a tsunami in particular.

From what I recall from news articles the past several years... Tsunamis arise in deep water and gain in size and energy by travelling great distances over the water.  Regardless the depth of the Gulf, my uneducated guess is that there isn't enough distance for a Tsunami to develop to threaten Trinidad.  Tsunamis arising in the Atlantic is another matter where it concerns the 3 remaining coasts.

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There's a thing few realize: drive from Port of Spain to San Fernando and you go from the Caribbean to South America

This is misleading... if not false. 

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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2011, 05:18:00 PM »
im not too familiar with nuclear power, but if it is the plants in Japan were to leak or God forbid, one explodes, will the entire world be affected or only those countries in close proximity (downwind)  to japan? or can wind in fact transport the fumes worldwide?
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2011, 05:27:52 PM »
im not too familiar with nuclear power, but if it is the plants in Japan were to leak or God forbid, one explodes, will the entire world be affected or only those countries in close proximity (downwind)  to japan? or can wind in fact transport the fumes worldwide?

<layman>there would be potentially deadly fallout, much like Chernobyl, explosions yes, maybe but ah do tink nothing on d scale of if yuh fire ah couple nuclear missiles, power plant doh use d weaponized grade </laymen>
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2011, 05:28:04 PM »
My sister in law call we early dis morning bawling allyuh wake up, a tsunami coming. I just had to laugh oui. Ah say if that wave cud reach the San Fernando valley where we live well ain't no place to run to.
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2011, 05:32:55 PM »
My sister in law call we early dis morning bawling allyuh wake up, a tsunami coming. I just had to laugh oui. Ah say if that wave cud reach the San Fernando valley where we live well ain't no place to run to.
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2011, 05:53:27 PM »
My sister in law call we early dis morning bawling allyuh wake up, a tsunami coming. I just had to laugh oui. Ah say if that wave cud reach the San Fernando valley where we live well ain't no place to run to.
Allyuh making joke, I just hear the PM saying the ODPM taking precautions for the possible impact of the Pacific Rim Tsunami on T&T. Now in case we forget , there's South and Central America to the West and Africa to the East.  To be fair to the good lady they did mention that they expect a small rise in sea level. But seriously dred.

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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2011, 05:55:23 PM »
Jah Gol, you eh serious  :o


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

who are her advisors.?

i just cant.....
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2011, 06:06:39 PM »
Jah Gol, you eh serious  :o


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

who are her advisors.?

i just cant.....
I can't make that shit up. I just hear that on the news. I think she just wanted to look like they paying attention. Additionally I heard the Minister of Foreign affairs say that they'd received no requests for assistance from T&T nationals residing in Japan and that in any case the airport (Tokyo International Airport) was closed so they couldn't fly out anybody anyway. Apparently Suruj think there's only one international airport in Japan- like Tokyo come like Piarco nah.
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2011, 06:46:12 PM »
allyuh seem to conveniently forget the fact that Manning was building a tsunami shelter in Tarouba  ;)
so doh give the PM unecessary flak for the same level of stupidity lol

Theoretically (sp) speaking the west coast of Trinidad woulda been a prime candidate for a tsunami if there was a mountain range on the east coast of Venezuela; the Gulf of Paria been deeper; and of course a massive landslide to occur.
A tsumani coming from the Caribbean will cause sea level to rise at the Dragon's Mouth, whereby eventually causing POS to flood, the mongrove swapms will do a buffering job along the coastline since the water will be generally moving north to south but the worse effect will be at the Cedros end of the Gulf.

Ok ah done talk meh shit..back to meh bottle of wine  ;D
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2011, 06:57:40 PM »
allyuh seem to conveniently forget the fact that Manning was building a tsunami shelter in Tarouba  ;)


 ??? d lara stadium?
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« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2011, 07:02:24 PM »
allyuh seem to conveniently forget the fact that Manning was building a tsunami shelter in Tarouba  ;)


 ??? d lara stadium?


Yep..but me ent know how that go save people with the poor constriction and shoddy welding lol
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« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2011, 07:09:14 PM »
allyuh seem to conveniently forget the fact that Manning was building a tsunami shelter in Tarouba  ;)
so doh give the PM unecessary flak for the same level of stupidity lol


Theoretically (sp) speaking the west coast of Trinidad woulda been a prime candidate for a tsunami if there was a mountain range on the east coast of Venezuela; the Gulf of Paria been deeper; and of course a massive landslide to occur.
A tsumani coming from the Caribbean will cause sea level to rise at the Dragon's Mouth, whereby eventually causing POS to flood, the mongrove swapms will do a buffering job along the coastline since the water will be generally moving north to south but the worse effect will be at the Cedros end of the Gulf.

Ok ah done talk meh shit..back to meh bottle of wine  ;D
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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2011, 07:11:18 PM »
Check this video out of Lituya Bay in Alaska of what could happen in a small area and short period of time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN6EgMMrhdI&feature=fvwrel

It have a mountain range I think in the Canaries, that if the volcano erupts or a landslide occurs..the Western Atlantic coastline will be screwed
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« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2011, 07:36:03 PM »
alyuh check this out, youtube have a special page for videos http://www.youtube.com/citizentube?feature=ticker
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« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2011, 07:38:15 PM »
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There's a thing few realize: drive from Port of Spain to San Fernando and you go from the Caribbean to South America

This is misleading... if not false. 

Since the context is plate tectonics, and the source is a blog, it's merely an interesting observation. On a geologic time scale, as the 2 plates continue to move, the island as we know it will shear in two, with one part remaining on the Caribbean plate and the other with the South American plate.

By geologic time, I, of course, mean 2012  ;)

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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2011, 07:41:28 PM »
it have a pacific tsunami warning   ??? , i now hearing it on BBC , it will impact south america , but they say it wont be big , about 2 to 3 meters high
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« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2011, 01:02:33 AM »
dat earthquake aint over....aftershocks are worse.....1 every 15 mins
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« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2011, 05:03:15 AM »
 :-[ This might be worse than the Tsunami and Earth quake eh.


BBC News Asia-Pacific
12 March 2011 Last updated at 10:24 GMT
Huge blast at Japan nuclear power plant

A massive explosion has struck a Japanese nuclear power plant after Friday's devastating earthquake.

A huge pall of smoke was seen coming from the plant at f**kushima and several workers were injured.

Japanese officials fear a meltdown at one of the plant's reactors after radioactive material was detected outside it.

A huge relief operation is under way after the 8.9-magnitude earthquake and tsunami, which killed more than 600.

Hundreds more people are missing and it is feared about 1,300 may have died.

The offshore earthquake triggered a tsunami which wreaked havoc on Japan's north-east coast, sweeping far inland and devastating a number of towns and villages.

Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan declared a state of emergency at the f**kushima 1 and 2 power plants as engineers try to confirm whether a reactor at one of the stations has gone into meltdown.

It is an automatic procedure after nuclear reactors shut down in the event of an earthquake, allowing officials to take rapid action.

Cooling system failure

Television pictures showed a massive blast at one of the buildings of the f**kushima 1 plant, about 250km (160 miles) north-east of Tokyo.

A huge cloud of smoke billows out and large bits of debris are flung far from the building.

Japan's NHK TV showed before and after pictures of the plant. They appeared to show that the outer structure of one of four buildings at the plant had collapsed after the explosion.

The Tokyo Electric Power Co, the plant's operator, said four workers had been injured.

It is not yet clear in exactly what part of the plant the explosion occurred or what caused it.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said experts were trying to determine the level of radiation at the site.

Japan's nuclear agency said on Saturday that radioactive caesium and iodine had been detected near the number one reactor of the f**kushima 1 plant.

The agency said this may indicate that containers of uranium fuel inside the reactor may have begun melting.

Air and steam, with some level of radioactivity, has been released from several of the reactors at both plants in an effort to relieve the huge amount of pressure building up inside.

Mr Kan said the amount of radiation released was "tiny".

Thousands of people have been ordered to evacuate the area within a 10-km radius of the plant. BBC correspondent Nick Ravenscroft said police stopped him 60km from the f**kushima 1 plant.

Nuclear reactors at four power plants in the earthquake-struck zone automatically shut down on Friday.

In some of the reactors at the two f**kushima plants the cooling systems, which should keep operating on emergency power supplies, failed.

Without cooling, the temperature in the reactor core builds, with the risk that it could melt through its container into the building housing the system.

Pressure also builds in the containers housing the reactor.

Analysts say a meltdown would not necessarily lead to a major disaster because light-water reactors would not explode even if they overheated.

But Walt Patterson, of the London research institute Chatham House, said "this is starting to look a lot like Chernobyl".

He said it was too early to tell if the explosion's aftermath would result in the same extreme level of radioactive contamination that occurred at Chernobyl.

The explosion was most likely caused by melting fuel coming into contact with water, he told the BBC.

The 8.9-magnitude tremor struck in the afternoon local time on Friday off the coast of Honshu island at a depth of about 24km, 400km (250 miles) north-east of Tokyo.

It was nearly 8,000 times stronger than last month's quake in New Zealand that devastated the city of Christchurch, scientists said.

Some of the same search and rescue teams from around the world that helped in that disaster are now on their way to Japan.


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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2011, 06:22:35 AM »
Allyuh making joke, I just hear the PM saying the ODPM taking precautions for the possible impact of the Pacific Rim Tsunami on T&T. Now in case we forget , there's South and Central America to the West and Africa to the East.  To be fair to the good lady they did mention that they expect a small rise in sea level. But seriously dred.

Yuh doh think the Tsunami could cross the Andes?


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Re: Major Earthquake hits Japan
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2011, 07:04:44 AM »
Allyuh making joke, I just hear the PM saying the ODPM taking precautions for the possible impact of the Pacific Rim Tsunami on T&T. Now in case we forget , there's South and Central America to the West and Africa to the East.  To be fair to the good lady they did mention that they expect a small rise in sea level. But seriously dred.

Yuh doh think the Tsunami could cross the Andes?


Just saying.
The wave would have lost height and energy,no that's Impossible.

 

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