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World Cup 2011: WI v India
« on: March 19, 2011, 07:59:19 PM »
Battle for second place in Group B
The Preview by Sidharth Monga
March 19, 2011
http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cricket_worldcup2011/content/current/story/507032.html

Match Facts
March 20, Chennai
Start time 1430 hours (0900 GMT)
05:00:00 Sunday March 20, 2011 in US/Eastern
05:00:00 Sunday March 20, 2011 in Port-of-Spain

The Big Picture
No wonder India play so much cricket without seeming to overly mind it. When MS Dhoni walks out for the toss for this game, it will have been more than a week since they last played in the World Cup. The off days for the Indian team, however, have been days of plenty of buzz and activity for the Indian cricketing public and media. Dhoni has suddenly gone from being Midas to moron for getting Ashish Nehra to bowl the final over; Yusuf Pathan is no longer a good choice to bat in batting Powerplay; heated meetings between selectors, board secretary and captain have been reported and denied ; the moon's proximity to the earth has had its say; the next coach has become a topic of discussion; UDRS blunders and Sachin Tendulkar's impending 100th hundred have been overshadowed; everything that can be debated, even those that cannot be, have been debated.
If you have been watching news channels in India, or reading news publications, doom is not too far. Which is why the players have been asked to stay far away. Which is why it is a good thing that they are back on the field where they can sort out their team combination for the knockouts, and there are issues bothering them. Piyush Chawla's inclusion in the XV, always a bit inexplicable, has so far been exposed as a mistake, a gamble gone wrong, which reduces India's options if they feel that either of Munaf Patel or Nehra is out of form.

And Virat Kohli - this will sound harsh on a young man in the form of his life - has hurt the team balance a bit, forcing Suresh Raina out, who is more suited at the slog end and is a pretty canny part-time offspinner. For this game, though, India might not have to make a choice, for Virender Sehwag is down with an allergic reaction to a painkiller injection.

India's opponents are now assured of a place in the knockouts, but the game is just as big for them. Bangladesh are the only Test team West Indies have beaten in an ODI since June 28, 2009, which hurts them bad. Also painful will be how they didn't trust themselves to play normal cricket and finish a middling chase against England after the explosive start by Chris Gayle. They will dearly love to end that unflattering streak, and in the process finish at No. 2 in Group B, thus avoiding the best two sides from Group A in the quarter-final.

If it provides some comfort, the previous major team West Indies beat was India, in Jamaica, through aggressive bowling. They will rate their chances because they are up against a side that is under pressure, no matter how much it avoids the media and the public. A side that will have done really well if it plays uninhibited, free-flowing cricket. West Indies might think the iron is hot.

Chennai is certainly hot, and its spinner-friendly track and reverse-friendly square have provided the two matches of the tournament so far. The World Cup will want to bid it a fitting farewell before it moves to the flatter, more predictable surfaces.

Form guide
(completed matches, most recent first)
India LWWTW
West Indies LWWWL

Watch out for...
Chris Gayle has to be hurting. In a chase of 244, he left his side at 58 for 1 in the seventh over, but the rest still managed to fall 18 short. Will he go back to reining himself in and playing through the innings? Will he decide to make Sunday his day and his day alone, and go swinging?

Sides have decided the best way to beat India, at least when they are on the field, is to play Harbhajan Singh out and not give him wickets. Hence an economy-rate of 4.41, but only five wickets. At times it works for India, producing more wicket-taking opportunities for the other bowlers that the batsmen feel compelled to attack. In this World Cup, it has worked for the batsmen. Chennai, though, will be Harbhajan's best chance of taking wickets: a turning pitch, and a fair sprinkling of left-hand batsmen.

Team news
R Ashwin, through all indicators, seems to the be the man India want the world to see as little of as possible before the big matches. Is a match that determines whether they face New Zealand or Sri Lanka in the quarter-final big enough?

Sehwag is a big doubt. "Viru has got an allergic reaction in his right knee, so we will take that call either in the evening or on the morning of the game," Dhoni said.

India (probable): 1 Gautam Gambhir, 2 Sachin Tendulkar, 3 Virat Kohli, 4 Yuvraj Singh, 5 MS Dhoni (capt. & wk), 6 Suresh Raina, 7 Yusuf Pathan, 8 Harbhajan Singh, 9 Zaheer Khan, 10 & 11 two out Ashish Nehra, R Ashwin and Munaf Patel

Leaving Shivnarine Chanderpaul was a brave move on paper, but it did backfire on West Indies when they missed one batsman who would take the responsibility and anchor the chase on a difficult track. Do they bring him back? If they do, that will mean dropping either one of the specialist batsmen or one out of Andre Russell and Devendra Bishoo, both of whom had a superb game against England. Right now, Ramnaresh Sarwan seems to be the most disposable member of the XI that lost to England.

West Indies (probable) 1 Chris Gayle, 2 Devon Smith, 3 Darren Bravo, 4 Ramnaresh Sarwan/Shivnarine Chanderpaul, 5 Kieron Pollard, 6 Darren Sammy (capt.), 7 Devon Thomas (wk), 8 Andre Russell, 9 Sulieman Benn, 10 Kemar Roach, 11 Devendra Bishoo.

Pitch and conditions
Expect another baked turner with a hard square that should facilitate reverse-swing. For those looking for respite from the Chennai heat, the following is not good news. Chance of precipitation on Sunday: 0%.

Stats and trivia
Legspinner Bishoo took three wickets on his debut in Chennai. Thirteen years ago, a legspinner in a similar mould, took 16 wickets on his Test debut, again in Chennai. West Indies then were at the receiving end of Narendra Hirwani.

Everybody knows Sachin Tendulkar is one short of reaching 100 international hundreds, but he is also just 47 short of 18,000 ODI runs.

The World Cup head-to-head between the teams is tied at three and three.

Quotes
"It is a big learning curve and hopefully we won't repeat the same mistakes that have happened so far. We are human beings, we are always supposed to commit mistakes. Hopefully the interval between two will be long."
Vintage MS Dhoni

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo
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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2011, 02:43:58 AM »
India win toss.

No Gayle or Roach for WI. Unbelievable. Are they injured?

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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2011, 02:46:40 AM »
No Gayle or Roach for WI. Unbelievable. Are they injured?


maybe they saving them for d game against Oz or Pakistan
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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2011, 03:15:38 AM »
Rampaul to Tendulkar, OUT, Done in by the shortish ball that straightened just outside off.

Nice to see Ravi getting ah game.

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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2011, 03:41:00 AM »

Rampaul to Gambhir, OUT, Caught at third man

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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2011, 05:32:42 AM »
Rampaul to Kohli, OUT, Rampaul does it again. Will this 'reverse' the momentum? Top bowling from Rampaul, gets it to nip in sharply from a length outside off. Kohli plonks the front foot across plays a swat-swipe across the line, rivalled in ugliness only by the shot Michael Clarke played yesterday. The ball sneaks past and upsets the furniture. It is one of Kohli's main scoring shots, but at times he doesn't pull it off that well.

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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2011, 06:45:42 AM »
Rampaul to Pathan, OUT, Clatter! Ravi Rampaul screams, "Wow!" A yorker that reverses in to the middle and off line. Yusuf goes for the big swing. And misses. Clatter!

Rampaul to Khan, OUT, Five-for for Rampaul! His best ODI returns. Ever. Fab show. He is all smiles. It was the yorker again, Zaheer had shuffled to the off and looked to swing it to the on side. timber!

Well done Ravi.  :applause: :applause:

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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2011, 06:45:56 AM »
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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2011, 06:48:30 AM »
Excellent bowling Ravi...you deserve to play next game....drop Benn...
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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2011, 07:08:35 AM »
Umpire gave Sachin n.o. and he walked, well done Sachin  :applause:

That was a beauty from Ravi to get the knick, well done today Ravi :applause:

On Sky Sports they (Holdin and Indian commentator) sayin drop Sammy and play Ravi and Kemar
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2011, 08:04:11 AM »
Umpire gave Sachin n.o. and he walked, well done Sachin  :applause:

That was a beauty from Ravi to get the knick, well done today Ravi :applause:

On Sky Sports they (Holdin and Indian commentator) sayin drop Sammy and play Ravi and Kemar

I would drop Benn.

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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2011, 08:05:04 AM »
We need a big score from Bravo.

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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2011, 08:12:20 AM »
who yuh would rather play in the quarters, australia or pakistan? i prefer play pakistan!
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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2011, 08:18:35 AM »
We need a big score from Bravo.

Poor shot, 93 for 2
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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2011, 08:19:25 AM »
 :cursing: Bravo gives away his wicket  >:(

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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2011, 08:21:59 AM »
Watch de run rate drop too below 4 with these two batting .

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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2011, 08:38:36 AM »
Raina to Smith, 1 run, Smith gets his 50, driving with the spin to long off for a single.  :applause:

I was one that said he should not have been on the team, but he has done  very well.

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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2011, 08:39:23 AM »
nah man, smith looking goo. them fellas just nursing the singles. good cricket.
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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2011, 08:49:55 AM »
Every time Pullhard came out too bat in the other games the fans went wild. I wonder if they will jeer him today?

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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2011, 09:20:55 AM »
west indies... always makes it difficult for deyself
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2011, 09:25:43 AM »
dem fellas obviously prefer to play pakistan!
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Re: World Cup 2011: WI v India
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2011, 10:04:49 AM »
Why does this team always collapse  ???

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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2011, 10:23:59 AM »
Why does this team always collapse  ???

Because it panics whenever a wicket is lost. For example, how many times have West Indies gone from a score of 120/1 to 200 all out?

By contrast, how many times have we seen Australia recover from a score of 150/5 to 270 all out in one-dayers?

To use a real example, check out the scorecard from the West Indies played Australia back in the '96 world cup:


http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/65191.html

See how Australia was able to recover from 15/4 to 207/8 off 50 overs. By contrast, West Indies were 165/2 and ended up being bowled out for 202.

Our teams have always panicked in pressure situations.



This West Indian team needs a sports psychologist.

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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2011, 10:42:50 AM »
they should get the one the trinidad cricket team does use, because that team does always be 34/4 and does allways recover!


Why does this team always collapse  ???

Because it panics whenever a wicket is lost. For example, how many times have West Indies gone from a score of 120/1 to 200 all out?

By contrast, how many times have we seen Australia recover from a score of 150/5 to 270 all out in one-dayers?

To use a real example, check out the scorecard from the West Indies played Australia back in the '96 world cup:


http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/65191.html

See how Australia was able to recover from 15/4 to 207/8 off 50 overs. By contrast, West Indies were 165/2 and ended up being bowled out for 202.

Our teams have always panicked in pressure situations.



This West Indian team needs a sports psychologist.
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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2011, 11:17:21 AM »
Rampaul 5 for 51 his best figures in one day
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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2011, 12:22:51 PM »
We cyah bat 50 overs loud steups.
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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2011, 01:47:14 PM »
All yuh guh disagree wid dis one but WI are actually improving.  Ok, hold on, hear me out.

A few years ago both batting and bowling were essentially 1/2 notch up from associate level (w/1 or exceptions).  Now at least in the bowling dept. we are restricting the opposition total and in the batting dept. the top order are getting the starts, the middle and lower order are still struggling and not b/c of abilit but mental ineptitude.

With that said, I really don't expect much moving forward but if I compare this team w/WI ODI teams from a few years ago, they are doing marginally better albeit in a losing effort vs top cricket nations.  And this is w/o Barath and Bravo Sr
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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2011, 02:38:53 PM »
All yuh guh disagree wid dis one but WI are actually improving.  Ok, hold on, hear me out.

A few years ago both batting and bowling were essentially 1/2 notch up from associate level (w/1 or exceptions).  Now at least in the bowling dept. we are restricting the opposition total and in the batting dept. the top order are getting the starts, the middle and lower order are still struggling and not b/c of abilit but mental ineptitude.

With that said, I really don't expect much moving forward but if I compare this team w/WI ODI teams from a few years ago, they are doing marginally better albeit in a losing effort vs top cricket nations.  And this is w/o Barath and Bravo Sr

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