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Focus on the coach
« on: April 10, 2011, 11:42:50 AM »
Found this article to be interesting.

Reprinted from Catholic News dated April 10, 2011

Focus on the coach b]Sports-football by Sedley Joseph, former national footballer[/b]
 
Sport Minister Anil Roberts has been saying repeatedly that State funds are not going to be given to sporting associations without proper accounts being produced and I agree totally.
 
With this in mind, I am waiting patiently to see if any money and/or how much will be given to the Football Federation after reading (1) the statement of the High Court judge in February who ruled on the interim payment of over US$1 million to the players on the 2006 World Cup team, while rejecting the accounting documents produced by the T&TFF and (2) after seeing the performance of the U-20s in the recent qualifying tournament, a team who have been together for quite some time, playing friendly games all over the place and enjoying football camps as well. This was a team from whom Coach Vranes had expected so much but who drew 0-0 against Cuba and were humiliated 5-0 by Mexico.

I have heard the Sport Minister talking about qualification for World Cup 2014 but I really don’t know where the players are going to appear from, especially as the hope was that the U-20s and U-23s would have graduated to the senior team by then. If it is that we plan to depend on some of these present youngsters, heaven help us.
 
The former Minister of Sport was roundly criticised for the $2 million flag at the National Stadium and rightly so. Now, I wait to see what the expenditure will be on football and the returns from that expenditure.
 
Lots of disagreements
 
The T&TFF is infamous for never releasing its accounts but, as far as I understand, money released by the Ministry has to be accounted for. I wait with bated breath.
 
I now come to the coach of the Under-20s. In the build-up to the recent tournament, the team played quite a few friendly games as mentioned earlier and lost a few. In interviews after these losses, Coach Vranes always had some excuse or the other and insisted that the team would be ready for the tournament. The results have proven otherwise.
 
Mr Vranes has lived a charmed life as a coach in this country. I remember only too well during the 80s when he was coach of the National Senior Team, along with Messrs “Gally” Cummings, Kenny Joseph and present Technical Director Keith Look Loy, that the senior team lost a World Cup qualifier against Suriname at the Queen’s Park Oval. An enquiry was ordered by the T&TFF.
 
I happened to be a member of the technical team that conducted the enquiry. It was headed by former National Coach Edgar Vidale and included several other well respected coaches – Conrad Brathwaite, Jimmy Blanc and Vernon Bain. There seemed to have been lots of disagreements among the four coaches of the senior team and the T&TFF thought that this might have resulted in the team’s poor performance.
 
When I got to the then Shell Savannah Club where the enquiry was to be held, Vernon Bain was the only committee member present along with Coach Vranes. There was a document on the table which Bain asked me to have a look at in Vrane’s presence. The document contained numerous suggestions as to style of play and formation and I thought it had been prepared by a football coach, only to realise that it was signed by the then Hon T&TFF Secretary Jack Warner and that it called for the immediate firing of Mr Vranes. This was before any investigation had got underway.
 
Mr Vranes also read the document and one could see his embarrassment. To cut a long story short, Mr Vranes was eventually fired and another coach, his name slips me at the moment, was due to arrive the same night the enquiry was to begin. Vranes eventually got a coaching job in St Vincent, returned to T&T to coach Joe Public, eventually found his way back as U-20 and U-23 Coach and, I understand, will now be an assistant to the new national senior coach, German Otto Pfister.
 
The amazing thing at the enquiry was that Vranes was unable to explain to the Technical Committee about the system of play used by the team in the game against Suriname (or the absolute lack of a plan), although provided with a flip-chart and markers. He insisted that nothing was wrong with the system employed (or the absence thereof) and that the problem was the other coaches on the panel. This is the gentleman who has been consistently handed our young footballers over the last few years. Judge his record for yourself.
 
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Re: Focus on the coach
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2011, 01:44:35 PM »
Folks who know more, educate me on something, what was the essential difference between this and the last U-20 teams, the former of course having made it to the WC held in Egypt, losing 4-1 and 2-1 to Egypt and Italy respectively and rounding up w/a draw to Paraguay I believe.

Is it the quality of players?  The team preparations?  The coach of course is one of the only constants of which I am aware...
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2011, 03:18:56 PM »
Folks who know more, educate me on something, what was the essential difference between this and the last U-20 teams, the former of course having made it to the WC held in Egypt, losing 4-1 and 2-1 to Egypt and Italy respectively and rounding up w/a draw to Paraguay I believe.

Is it the quality of players?  The team preparations?  The coach of course is one of the only constants of which I am aware...

IMO

(1) Egypt side had Paul, DeSilva and Molino to run midfield, this side was very poor in the middle

(2) Egypt side had discipline, this side had some problems with discipline.

(3) The core of the Egypt competed in international football from U-15, this side began preparing almost a year later.

(4) The Egypt side had consistent preparation leading up to qualifiers and played many quality competitive peer games leading up to the WC, this side had awful preparation in the end

(5) After all that they still had Bateau, Adams, and Joevin Jones, who supposed to be our future 'star' defenders....so on that point they not supposed to eat no 5-0.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2011, 03:39:41 PM »
I think the side in Egypt was stronger, looked more sharp and got to ball much quicker. I did not find that Paul and DeSilva was all that great in the mid. They hustle a lot. But also lost the ball too often.  As a matter of fact, DeSilva only played against Egypt. He started off a bit slow(probably butterflies). The Egypt side definitely looked sharper than the Guat. side. They did travel a lot. They went Korea and Nigeria. That may have given them an edge.

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2011, 04:12:21 PM »
So Zando, Deeks, does the above imply our U-23 team is relatively strong or average?
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2011, 04:39:30 PM »
I think the side in Egypt was stronger, looked more sharp and got to ball much quicker. I did not find that Paul and DeSilva was all that great in the mid. They hustle a lot. But also lost the ball too often.  As a matter of fact, DeSilva only played against Egypt. He started off a bit slow(probably butterflies). The Egypt side definitely looked sharper than the Guat. side. They did travel a lot. They went Korea and Nigeria. That may have given them an edge.

Paul and DeSilva were top notch, beating canada and Mexico and forcing the U.S. into penalties. Maybe not very effective in Egypt. Compare that to how the current squad were handled by Cuba and blown out by Mexico.

They also got far more games against national squads. When you beat a Colombian club side you don't neccessarily know where you stand in relation to CONCACAF peers. Maybe its cultural but TT players always seem to have poor understanding of teamwork, poor descision-making and hwat their level is in the region. The Egypt squad proved that we can succeed if we start playing competitively earlier, play more games, and play against other national squads...so when it comes to the big dance we are not caught with our pants down.

Remember the same U-20 we crying down now were able to hold their own own against Cameroon and Ecquador in just October of last year. In fact they buss two goals on Cameroon. Then went on to drop 8 on St. Vincent. But then the training boil down and they finish traing playing one setta club sides with one game against Canada, which they lost.

So Zando, Deeks, does the above imply our U-23 team is relatively strong or average?

You get what you put in. With the right training men who average can score goals against the likes of Italy or Ghana. And shutout Paraguay. And if they have a strong competitive drive and are supplied with opportunity they will cease to be average. So the U-23 team can overachieve or under achieve, with TT football who knows
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Re: Focus on the coach
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2011, 05:48:27 PM »
Since when Vranes is a local Coach. Sedley hinted that Vranes will be the German"s assistant. I read that he was looking for local coaches to pass o his experience. Will someone please enlighten me?

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 06:09:51 PM »
Since when Vranes is a local Coach. Sedley hinted that Vranes will be the German"s assistant. I read that he was looking for local coaches to pass o his experience. Will someone please enlighten me?

you know how long that man living in TT. He must have apllied and gotten TT citizenship by now.

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Re: Focus on the coach
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2011, 06:10:18 PM »
Since when Vranes is a local Coach. Sedley hinted that Vranes will be the German"s assistant. I read that he was looking for local coaches to pass o his experience. Will someone please enlighten me?


Dey probable consider Vranes local because he in Trinidad since the early '90's except for very brief stints in St Vincent and ah think Antigua.Dais enough time to pick up all de bad habits.

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Re: Focus on the coach
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2011, 06:19:35 PM »
Every age group either has a good generation  of players, or not. Mexico won the WC U17 in Peru and the following year failed to quality for the tournament. Mexico U20 last time were not a quality team, yet this time they are solid. Foe a small country like T&T it is normal. We qualified for the U20 in 1991 & did not do so for another 19 years. We qualified our first U17's outside of hosting in 2007. Why is everyone so surprised? Its not like T&T were consistently participating in these tournaments in the past.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2011, 07:06:40 AM »
Every age group either has a good generation  of players, or not. Mexico won the WC U17 in Peru and the following year failed to quality for the tournament. Mexico U20 last time were not a quality team, yet this time they are solid. Foe a small country like T&T it is normal. We qualified for the U20 in 1991 & did not do so for another 19 years. We qualified our first U17's outside of hosting in 2007. Why is everyone so surprised? Its not like T&T were consistently participating in these tournaments in the past.

Qualifying is one thing, but is the way these men playing, no brand, no belly and no plan.

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2011, 06:21:16 PM »
I hear Vranes get fired. Awaiting confirmation ...
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