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Sai Baba Dies
« on: April 24, 2011, 05:09:28 PM »
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Revered Hindu guru Sathya Sai Baba dies at age 84
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Sathya Sai Baba AP – FILE - In this April 10, 2010 file photo, Indian spiritual leader Sathya Sai Baba looks on at a function …
By AIJAZ RAHI, Associated Press – Sun Apr 24, 1:49 pm ET

PUTTAPARTI, India – Hindu guru Sathya Sai Baba, revered by millions worldwide, died Sunday after nearly a month of hospital treatment near his southern Indian ashram. He was 84.

The news brought an outpouring of grief from his followers, including high Indian officials, who remembered him as a pious person who worked selflessly to help others with the billions of dollars donated to his charitable trust.

Women selling marigold garlands broke down in tears outside the ashram, while devotees began flocking to the temple complex where the guru's body will lie through Tuesday.

The Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Medical Sciences, where Sai Baba spent the past weeks on breathing support and dialysis, appealed for calm. Police, heavily deployed since Sai Baba was hospitalized March 28, kept tight control over road traffic and crowds. Shops were told to close to limit the number of people in town.

Sai Baba had a huge following, with ashrams in over 126 countries and devotees in India including high-placed politicians, movie stars, world-class athletes and industrialists.

He was said to perform miracles, conjuring jewelry, Rolex watches and "vibhuti" — a sacred ash that his followers applied to their foreheads — from his halo of wild, frizzy hair.

But rationalist critics led campaigns against him, calling him a charlatan and his miracles fake. Several news reports alleged that he sexually abused devotees — accusations he denied as vilification campaigns.

Hundreds of thousands are expected to pay last respects in Puttaparti, where a funeral with state honors is planned Wednesday morning.

Indian television ran nonstop news coverage on Sunday of the guru's death, while officials and celebrities expressed sadness over an "irreparable loss."

"Sri Satya Sai Baba was a spiritual leader who inspired millions to lead a moral and meaningful life, even as they followed the religion of their choice," Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said in a statement. "The nation deeply mourns his passing away."

Andhra Pradesh state, where Puttaparti is located, declared four days of mourning, with its top official calling Sai Baba "a symbol of love, affection and passion."

"Sri Satya Sai Baba has given his great self to the service of humanity," Chief Minister N. Kiran Kumar Reddy said. "He will be remembered for ages to come by all sections of people all over the world."

Born Nov. 23, 1926, as Sathyanarayana Raju, he was said as a child to display a tendency toward spirituality and unusual intelligence, which he expressed through music, dance and writing poetry and plays.

In 1940, at the age of 14, he declared himself an "avatar," or reincarnation, of another Hindu holy man called the Sai Baba of Shirdi, a town in western Maharashtra state, who died in 1918.

As the young guru attracted followers, his home of Puttaparti grew from a sleepy village into a vibrant town with the sprawling "Prasanthi Nilayam" ashram built in 1950, as well as a large hospital, a university and schools run by his Satya Sai Central Trust, set up in 1972 with donations from devotees.

The trust — estimated to be worth at least $8.9 billion and possibly much more — also established spiritual centers in the cities of Mumbai, Hyderabad and Chennai. It built another hospital in Bangalore, where Sai Baba had a summer home, and funded water supply projects in several southern states.

Though no successor has been named to run the trust, "there is or will be no vacuum," a statement released after the guru was hospitalized said.

Health woes over recent years had forced Sai Baba to cut down on public appearances. He survived a stroke and a series of heart attacks in 1963. In 2005, he began using a wheelchair, and a year later he fractured his hip when a student fell from a stool onto him.

Sai Baba was also mired in controversies, with several news reports about allegations of sexual abuse and fake miracles.

A 2004 BBC television program called the "Secret Swami" featured interviews with at least two American male devotees who claimed the guru had fondled their genitals and exposed himself to them while claiming it was part of a healing ritual.

Though he denied the allegations and was never charged with any crime, the reports led some to break with the guru.

The ashram also said Sai Baba had survived an attempt against his life, with six devotees including the guru's personal assistant killed in his bedroom in June 1993 after allegedly trying to attack him. Facts of the case still remain a mystery.

Sai Baba was never married and has no children.


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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2011, 05:16:11 PM »
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Sathya Sai Baba's death triggers fight for his £5.5 billion empire

The death of an Indian guru who built up a worldwide following of up to 50 million people has triggered an unholy scramble for control of his £5.5 billion empire.

Gethin Chamberlain 4:48PM BST 24 Apr 2011

Sathya Sai Baba's claims to divinity, and his apparent ability to magic holy items out of thin air were enough to win him an army of devotees, including celebrities such as Goldie Hawn, Sarah Ferguson and Hard Rock cafe founder Isaac Tigrett.

India's president and prime minister both attended his latest birthday celebrations.

Their devotion was tested to the limits in recent years by persistent allegations that the guru indulged in widespread sexual abuse of young acolytes at his ashram in Puttaparthi in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh.

Yet even when video footage proved beyond doubt that his "miracles" were simple sleight of hand and he was implicated in the murders of four followers, millions still refused to believe the worst.

His death on Sunday, however, is another matter. Sai Baba had built his empire on the myth that he was the reincarnation of an earlier – and much loved – Indian saint of the same name. In doing so, he had prophesied his own death at the age of 96 – and his reincarnation eight years later.

As news of his deteriorating health spread, police were ordered into Puttaparthi to maintain control, with devotees venting their anger and frustration at officials and members of the trust which runs the Sai Baba empire.

With allegations circulating that the trust had neglected Sai Baba's health in recent months, worried politicians held top-level meetings to discuss whether the state should seize control of his vast fortune.

His nephew, RJ Ratnakar and devotee Satyajit, who had taken over responsibility for his care in recent years, are among those reported to be jostling for control over the Sai organisation.

His death also raises questions about the future of his controversial education programme, which had been expanding worldwide in recent years.

In the UK his organisation has exploited the requirement for schools to provide spiritual, moral and cultural development, which was introduced in the 1988 Education Reform Act.

It promotes the lessons as a way to reverse the trend towards anti-social behaviour and the international Sathya Sai organisation says almost 200 schools across the UK have acquired its manuals.

The UK courses were written by Sai Baba follower Carole Alderman, a regular visitor to his ashram and a devout believer. She has no teaching qualification but did run the Christmas play at his ashram for six years.

Asked in an interview with the Sai radio station about the relevance of his teachings to the challenges faced by contemporary society, she replied: "I'm happy! Almost all of the time. And if I have any problems, I can just turn to Him and He'll sort them out for me."

Critics claimed the programme did little more than encourage vulnerable young people to join Sai Baba's personality cult.

With his saffron robes and trademark Afro hairstyle, Sai Baba certainly cut a distinctive, if diminutive – he stood just 5ft 2 ins tall – figure.

He was never slow to proclaim his own divinity, insisting that his arrival on earth was prophesied by Jesus, that he was the one who originally sent Jesus to Earth and that he was clearly the Lamb of God because his name – Ba Ba – is the noise a sheep makes.

He inspired devotion among his followers, who flocked to the ashram just to catch a glimpse of him and maybe to be given a sprinkling of the holy ash he claimed to be able to materialise from thin air. The lucky ones received watches or gold statues, which he would apparently produce from his mouth.

But for his growing army of critics, he was nothing short of a child-molesting fraud who had for years taken advantage of the gullibility of his young male followers to sexually abuse them during private audiences in his rooms.

Victims have told in harrowing detail how they were groped during private audiences and required to take part in sexual acts with the man they had trusted.

So seriously were the claims taken that for many years the US government warned its citizens to stay away from the ashram because of the risk and UNESCO, the UN's Educational, Social, and Cultural Organisation, pulled out of a conference at the ashram citing deep concerns about "widely-reported allegations of sexual abuse".

Sai Baba had dismissed the sex abuse allegations as false and described them as the "cawing of crows".

"All that is written on walls [or] said in political meetings, or the vulgar tales carried by the print media, should not carry one away."

But former devotee Barry Pittard said Sai Baba was a dangerous confidence trickster who should have been allowed to have anything to do with children.

"For the worst victims of his depredations, the victims of murder and maiming and people being beaten by his officers and families being broken up and the boys, some of them very young, their sufferings have been very great."

And former Sai organisation teacher Robert Priddy, who helped set up the teacher training model, said most people teaching the programme were unqualified to do so.

"The aim of embedding 'spiritual' values in children was heavily imprinted with indoctrinating them to believe in Sai Baba's divinity and doctrine," he warned.

Sai Baba had also been denounced by the Indian Rationalists Association, who debunked his "miracles" and pointed to numerous videos available on the internet which show the one-time conjurer producing items from various places where he has concealed them, including his mop of hair.

The negative publicity had little effect on the growth of his fortune, though. Court documents allege he owned two Mercedes limousines, two BMWs, one Daimler, one Jaguar, and plenty of other Indian vehicles.

The documents also allege he had the roof of his temple lined with solid gold. The grounds of his ashram contain a museum, mostly dedicated to his own works and there are numerous statues, including a slightly larger than life gold statue of Sai Baba himself, a gold chariot, a silver chariot and a cricket pitch laid for an international tournament for which he offered as a trophy a solid gold cup weighing 20kg and valued at £150,000.

The battle for control over that fortune promises to be bitter. Family members have already fired the first shots at the trust, and there are suspicions the state government would like to get its hands on the coffers.

Despite Sai Baba having previously assured his followers that he would not die anytime soon, his physical health deteriorated rapidly in recent months.

He was admitted to his own hospital at the end of last month suffering from pneumonia and breathing problems. On Thursday, his condition worsened and doctors said his organs were no longer functioning. He died on Sunday, reportedly of heart failure. His exact age is a matter of debate: his own organisation put his age at 85, while his purported date of birth in 1926 would suggest he was 84. Others suggest he was born in 1929.

Narendra Nayak, President of Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations, said that his failure to reach the age at which he had claimed he would die should be enough to convince people Sai Baba was no God.

Speaking before the guru's death he said: "Sai Baba is a third rate prestidigitator and manipulator who is now paralysed and he cannot cure himself. How can he cure others? There is a saying in English – physician heal thyself. So I would say Baba heal yourself."


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Re: Sai Baba Dies
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2011, 10:05:10 PM »
I'm trying hard.....





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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2011, 10:31:40 PM »
is de people god incarnate and yuh eh feeling nutten?  allyuh harsh boy ;)

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 12:09:41 AM »
is de people god incarnate and yuh eh feeling nutten?  allyuh harsh boy ;)

Jesus rising and he dying... whey's dah one boy?

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 08:08:12 AM »
85 years and not one grey hair. He is ah God oui!

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 09:12:14 AM »
Ah fella on FB wanna know if Pennywise and Francis Fashion opening on Wednesday

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Or yuh shoes burst off,
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 11:10:16 AM »
85 years and not one grey hair. He is ah God oui!

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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 01:38:54 PM »
85 years and not one grey hair. He is ah God oui!

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according to the article, he was into that literally
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2011, 03:17:38 PM »
Just expect another Easter Holiday, because the devotees say he gonna raise again.

Sathya Sai Baba has said he will live until the year 2022 (to the age of 95 or 96). A group of devotees on Thursday held a press conference here to say he would recover and appeal to the media to respect their sentiments. 

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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2011, 04:00:09 PM »
Just expect another Easter Holiday, because the devotees say he gonna raise again.

Sathya Sai Baba has said he will live until the year 2022 (to the age of 95 or 96). A group of devotees on Thursday held a press conference here to say he would recover and appeal to the media to respect their sentiments. 



i red somehwere that he identified the next sai baba already...som yute in some village of ourse i cant remember d name...i think is an avatar scene

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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2011, 05:22:30 PM »
Just expect another Easter Holiday, because the devotees say he gonna raise again.

Sathya Sai Baba has said he will live until the year 2022 (to the age of 95 or 96). A group of devotees on Thursday held a press conference here to say he would recover and appeal to the media to respect their sentiments. 



Like dem eh get de memo?  The world going to end in 2012....lol

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 05:28:56 PM »
Just expect another Easter Holiday, because the devotees say he gonna raise again.

Sathya Sai Baba has said he will live until the year 2022 (to the age of 95 or 96). A group of devotees on Thursday held a press conference here to say he would recover and appeal to the media to respect their sentiments. 



Like dem eh get de memo?  The world going to end in 2012....lol

I waiting 3 days (Thursday) cause I want another long weekend.

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« Last Edit: April 26, 2011, 06:12:42 AM by Trinity Cross »

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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2011, 06:42:56 AM »
I never know dat Sai Baba was Catholic....?  I winder when he was bulling dem young boy devotees if dey was saying "Oh God, Oh God?"

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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2011, 07:41:12 PM »
Who performed the surgery?
A man suffering from a number of ailments got his heart examined in the super speciality hospital. His condition was extremely distressing. Doctors felt that he was in no position to undergo the strain of surgical interventions and refused to do anything. The patient began to pray fervently to Swami. He prayed to Bhagawan that he should somehow get the operation done and restore him to normal health. Bhagawan heard his prayers. He talked to the doctors and enquired how this particular patient was doing. They explained that he was suffering from several complaints and their opinion, it was not a fit case for operation. Swami said, "Go ahead and perform the operation. Nothing untoward will happen. I will oversee it". The operation was performed and to the utter disbelief of doctors, it was successful. Some days later, Swami enquired about his health. The doctors informed Him that the operation was very successful and that the patient is in excellent condition.

It is a usual practice at the super speciality hospital to take the video films of operations performed in complicated cases. Swami asked the doctors to view this particular operation. They were surprised when they did so; they found around the operation table Swami in several forms and resembling each one of them. Relieved of their pride and ego, they realized that it was Swami and Swami alone, who was performing operations and that they were only incidental, mere tools in His divine hands.

With utter humility they bowed to the Lotus Feet of Bhagawan.

Source: JV Sastry, Tapovanam, Pg. 214-215

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