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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #690 on: June 29, 2011, 09:37:13 PM »
FIFA tells Gibbs wait till bribery probe ends
By NALINEE SEELAL
Thursday, June 30 2011
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Eighteen days after writing an official letter to international football body FIFA seeking information regarding allegations that undeclared sums of US currency entered Trinidad and Tobago (TT) sometime in May, Police Commissioner Dwayne Gibbs yesterday received a response to his letter.

Newsday understands that in an email response to Gibbs, FIFA stated it could not reveal any information on the allegations because FIFA’s Ethics Committee was still in the process of receiving key information and it could not prejudice the probe by revealing any details.

According to the letter, FIFA claimed it was bound by certain laws which has to be adhered to, and pending the outcome of the probe, which is centred around former FIFA presidential candidate Mohamed bin Hammam, FIFA may consider sending information to the TT Police Service.

FIFA is probing bribery allegations against bin Hammam, the suspended Asian Football Confederation president, stemming from a meeting of Caribbean Football Union officials at the Hyatt Regency, Port-of-Spain last May. The claims are bribes were paid for CFU votes for his candidacy for FIFA president, which he withdrew from when suspended, which cleared the way for Sepp Blatter to be re-elected unopposed.

Works Minister Jack Warner had been suspended as FIFA vice-president over the claims pending an investigation but resigned from international football earlier this month, which led FIFA to declare that he was no longer the subject of any investigation, adding Warner was presumed to be innocent.

Attempts by Newsday to reach Gibbs proved unsuccessful yesterday, since he was reported to be in several meetings.

However, sources revealed Gibbs has taken a decision to await further information from FIFA before making public statements on whether officers will be mandated to carry out a probe on the allegations.

Senior officers of the TT Customs and Excise Division also confirmed that no probe into the FIFA allegations is taking place at this time.

Gibbs sent FIFA a letter on June 12, following a call by Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley for the police to probe allegations that large sums of US currency were brought into the country in relation to the bribery claims.

Earlier this month, the Police Service said Gibbs was not guilty of dereliction of duty for not initiating a probe into the bribery allegations and indicated FIFA would be written about whether it had information on any alleged illegal activity in this country.

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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #691 on: June 30, 2011, 06:54:13 AM »
Interesting that an organisation can refuse to supply information to a police service where a possible violation took place.
Bakes, is this really a law as FIFA suggest?
I can understand FIFA requesting details are not disclosed to the public, but surely a nations laws trump a private organisations rules & regs?

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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #692 on: June 30, 2011, 09:57:56 AM »
Interesting that an organisation can refuse to supply information to a police service where a possible violation took place.
Bakes, is this really a law as FIFA suggest?
I can understand FIFA requesting details are not disclosed to the public, but surely a nations laws trump a private organisations rules & regs?

No they don't!!  The law enforcement of TnT has no jurisdiction over FIFA.  If FIFA were based in T&T then they could use the power of the AGs office to subpoena documents but an organization based in Switzerland?  If FIFA turn an say boy Gibbs f**k you nah boy, he cah even threaten them with anything.  Sure Gibbs can go all out and investigate but he have to weigh whether he'll be wasting resources chasing something he doesn't have evidence enough to prove nor the the jurisdiction to aquire evidence from parties that may know information in other sovereign territories.  Daz why he launch a preliminary inquiry an has ignored all the calls for an all out investigation.

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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #693 on: June 30, 2011, 07:32:08 PM »
Interesting that an organisation can refuse to supply information to a police service where a possible violation took place.
Bakes, is this really a law as FIFA suggest?
I can understand FIFA requesting details are not disclosed to the public, but surely a nations laws trump a private organisations rules & regs?

No they don't!!  The law enforcement of TnT has no jurisdiction over FIFA.  If FIFA were based in T&T then they could use the power of the AGs office to subpoena documents but an organization based in Switzerland?  If FIFA turn an say boy Gibbs f**k you nah boy, he cah even threaten them with anything.  Sure Gibbs can go all out and investigate but he have to weigh whether he'll be wasting resources chasing something he doesn't have evidence enough to prove nor the the jurisdiction to aquire evidence from parties that may know information in other sovereign territories.  Daz why he launch a preliminary inquiry an has ignored all the calls for an all out investigation.

I learning a lot here!! What you say makes sense but I'm not sure how this occurs. I mean, TTFF are sanctioned by FIFA and act as their representatives via CONCACAF. They are submissive to FIFA through CONCACAF. So isn't it like, say, if the local Burger King manager broke a law in T&T, and the head office in USA had evidence, they wouldn't have to tell Gibbs if he asked? I mean, if Burger King (USA) want to sell franchises in T&T, surely they must agree that they would not conspire to defeat the laws of that country?

I know that may sound confusing, but I'm sure you get my drift. I didn't realise organisations could just ignore the laws of countries in which their people operate.   

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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #694 on: June 30, 2011, 07:51:55 PM »
Interesting that an organisation can refuse to supply information to a police service where a possible violation took place.
Bakes, is this really a law as FIFA suggest?
I can understand FIFA requesting details are not disclosed to the public, but surely a nations laws trump a private organisations rules & regs?

No they don't!!  The law enforcement of TnT has no jurisdiction over FIFA.  If FIFA were based in T&T then they could use the power of the AGs office to subpoena documents but an organization based in Switzerland?  If FIFA turn an say boy Gibbs f**k you nah boy, he cah even threaten them with anything.  Sure Gibbs can go all out and investigate but he have to weigh whether he'll be wasting resources chasing something he doesn't have evidence enough to prove nor the the jurisdiction to aquire evidence from parties that may know information in other sovereign territories.  Daz why he launch a preliminary inquiry an has ignored all the calls for an all out investigation.

I learning a lot here!! What you say makes sense but I'm not sure how this occurs. I mean, TTFF are sanctioned by FIFA and act as their representatives via CONCACAF. They are submissive to FIFA through CONCACAF. So isn't it like, say, if the local Burger King manager broke a law in T&T, and the head office in USA had evidence, they wouldn't have to tell Gibbs if he asked? I mean, if Burger King (USA) want to sell franchises in T&T, surely they must agree that they would not conspire to defeat the laws of that country?

I know that may sound confusing, but I'm sure you get my drift. I didn't realise organisations could just ignore the laws of countries in which their people operate.   

Respectable transparent & accountable organsations like Burger King & KFC do but crooked mafia style organisations like FIFA and our very own TTFF don't!
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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #695 on: July 05, 2011, 07:48:29 PM »
British MPs accuse Fifa, Blatter of cover-up
The Dominion Post
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/football/5238503/British-MPs-accuse-Fifa-Blatter-of-cover-up



A government inquiry into corruption allegations surrounding World Cup bids has accused Fifa of trying to brush aside the evidence and has questioned president Sepp Blatter's commitment to reforming the organisation.

The 31-page report, issued by a Commons Select Committee, has called for Fifa to "commission a full, urgent and independent investigation" into the allegations surrounding the bids for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.

It also says it finds Fifa's decision to drop investigations into alleged wrongdoing by Jack Warner of Trinidad & Tobago, who resigned from Fifa's executive committee last month after 28 years rather than face corruption charges, as "extraordinary."

Among a number of conclusions, the report states: "We were appalled by the allegations of corruption made against members of the Fifa Executive Committee during the course of our inquiry.

"Although they have been challenged in other evidence, they are sufficiently serious for Fifa to commission a full, urgent and independent investigation and for the outcome to be made public.

"Instead, Fifa has given every impression of wishing to sweep all allegations of misconduct under the carpet and dismissing anyone bringing allegations to them with an approach bordering on contempt."

The report urges Fifa to review its bidding process for future World Cups and to reform itself as the International Olympic Committee (IOC) did following allegations of bribery and corruption into Salt Lake City's bid to host the 2002 Winter Olympic Games.

However, the report said Blatter's record did not inspire confidence that this would happen.

"We look to him now to fulfil the undertakings he gave at the time of his re-election to the presidency," it said. "We urge the FA, and other national associations to ensure he is held to account for them."

Committee member Damian Collins MP told Reuters in a telephone interview prior to the report's publication: "We are very concerned at the contempt Fifa showed when the evidence was presented to them. It is absolutely shocking at how little scrutiny there is of how Fifa executive members go about their business.

"Fifa may govern football, but it does not own football, and the way it operates would not be acceptable in any other organisation. Fifa needs to be far more transparent."

ENGLAND'S FAILURE

Initially, the inquiry, comprising MPs on the Culture, Media and Sport Committee, was set up to examine how the game is run in England and to examine the failure of England's bid to stage the 2018 World Cup which was awarded to Russia last December. On the same day, Fifa awarded the 2022 finals to Qatar.

Ad Feedback Subsequently in May, David Triesman, the former chairman of the English FA, gave evidence to the committee alleging that four members of the Fifa executive committee had demanded favours in return for voting for England.

Allegations made by the Sunday Times newspaper were also raised during the inquiry. Collins added that the way Fifa had dismissed those allegations was "hugely disappointing."

As well as being critical of Fifa, the report is also critical of Triesman, whose allegations in May against Fifa executive committee members Warner, Nicolas Leoz of Paraguay, Ricardo Teixeira of Brazil and Worawi Makudi of Thailand made headlines across the world and set alarm bells ringing.

Triesman resigned as FA chairman in May last year after being taped making what proved to be unfounded allegations against 2018 bid rivals Russia and Spain.

He told the Committee he did not make his allegations earlier for fear of harming England's bid, but following his assertions to the Committee regarding the four Fifa members, the English FA commissioned a report into his allegations, which could not be backed up.

The committee added: "It is frustrating and disappointing that Lord Triesman did not see fit to raise his allegations...when he first became aware of them. We welcome the undertaking he gave us that he would now raise his allegations with Fifa so that it could conduct an investigation."

The Committee has also recommended that the English FA conducts a review into the failures of the World Cup bid, which cost the FA and local councils more than 17 million pounds and ended up securing just two votes, one from England's own representatives, when the vote was taken by the executive committee, in Zurich on December 2 last year.

ANOTHER DECADE

Under current Fifa rules, after Russia hosts the 2018 World Cup, it will not return to Europe until 2030.

The report concludes that English influence in Fifa and in European's football's governing body UEFA is poor due to a number of historic and current perceptions including an arrogant approach to other countries.

With no bids possible for a World Cup for at least another decade, the committee recommends: "The FA can perhaps afford to play a long game, and to consolidate its position as a leading internal advocate of Fifa reform."

The FA gave a statement in response to the report.

"We have always acknowledged the level of disappointment amongst the public and everyone who was involved in the unsuccessful England 2018 Bid, particularly when we were very confident England's technical bid was the strongest following feedback from Fifa's inspection group," it said.

"Our focus is now on ensuring that the FA and all of English footballwork towards building stronger and more enduring international relationships.

"We can confirm that the FA chairman David Bernstein has began a process of evaluating our current representation on Fifa and UEFA committees, while determining how we can best strengthen our international relationships, both formally and informally."

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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #696 on: July 06, 2011, 10:18:47 AM »
Fifa find evidence of Jack Warner & Mohammad Bin Hammam corruption.
By:  By Paul Kelso (telegraph.co.uk).


A Fifa corruption investigation has concluded there is solid evidence that Jack Warner and Mohamed Bin Hammam colluded to offer bribes of up to $1 million (£625,000) to Caribbean football officials, Telegraph Sport can disclose.

The investigation, conducted by former FBI director Louis Freeh, is understood to have uncovered fresh evidence to corroborate the findings of the initial inquiry by lawyers acting for Fifa executive committee member Chuck Blazer.

Up to nine out of the 25 CFU national associations have told Freeh that they were offered or witnessed bribes of up to $40,000 per-nation being offered in brown envelopes to delegate at a special meeting of the Caribbean Football Union in Trinidad in May.

The witnesses have also told Freeh that they heard Warner explicitly explain that the money was from Bin Hammam and that it was linked to the Qatari’s presidential election campaign.

Bin Hammam challenged Blatter for the June 1 vote but withdrew days before the election in the wake of the allegations coming to light.

Fifa confirmed yesterday that Bin Hammam would now face a personal hearing before the ethics committee on July 22, with a verdict expected the following day. Warner no longer faces Fifa sanctions having resigned from all football posts and did not meet with investigators.

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Blazer’s report contained statements from four national associations — Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman Islands and Turks & Caicos – but Freeh has gathered corroborative statements from five other countries supporting their claims.

Puerto Rico, Surinam, Grenada, Curucao and Aruba are thought to be among the additional witnesses who have come forward.

An official from the Guyana Football Federation said he saw other delegates with brown envelopes and was told they contained cash.

Carlos Prowell, vice-president of the Guyana federation, said: “Mr Bin Hammam came and made his presentation and talked about what he wanted to do about football. After that we were told to go to collect our gifts – it is normal to receive token gifts at all football functions from Fifa, Concacaf and CFU.

“I was in the lobby and saw some of the other guys coming out with brown envelopes. I did not know what was inside the envelope but was told by one them it contained cash.

“We didn’t know how much inside the envelopes – only later when we read about it in the media. We took a collective decision not to receive the gifts.”

Freeh is understood to have examined the CFU’s finances and established that it does not have the money to make such large payments. It had been claimed that the money was from the CFU rather than Bin Hammam.

The CFU, whose president at the time was Warner, is understood to be running a deficit of about $200,000, and to owe more than $300,000 to Warner himself.

A significant number of CFU nations, perhaps as many as a dozen, have declined to be interviewed, either refusing requests for meetings or dodging investigators during their travels in the Caribbean.

They could face disciplinary action as the ethics committee warned that it would “draw a negative inference” from failure to co-operate with Freeh. In the initial stages of the inquiry 12 Caribbean nations wrote letters in support of Warner denying that they had witnessed any attempted bribery in Trinidad.

Warner, a Fifa vice-president at the time of the Trinidad meeting, resigned from all his football posts after receiving the ethics committee’s initial findings, which declared there was “convincing and overwhelming evidence” against him.

Fifa dropped its investigation into Warner following his resignation but Freeh’s report is understood to refer to his role in the alleged bribery.

The report has not however established a more direct evidential link between Bin Hammam and the cash offered in Trinidad, beyond witnesses reporting Warner’s comments at the meeting.

It is not clear what conclusions Freeh has reached about the actions of executive committee members Worawi Makudi of Thailand and Fernando Manilal of Sri Lanka, both of whom were with Bin Hammam at the Trinidad meeting.

Freeh’s findings have been passed to the Fifa ethics committee, which will meet later this month to consider the report and take evidence from Bin Hammam and two officials from the Caribbean Football Union alleged to have handed out the money, who also face corruption charges.

Bin Hammam has insisted throughout this case that he is innocent of the charges and is the victim of a politically-motivated attempt to discredit him ahead of the presidential election.

At the time of publication neither Bin Hammam or Warner had responded to invitations to comment.
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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #697 on: July 06, 2011, 10:50:15 AM »
There is so much hypocrisy underpining this whole investigation... part of me can't help but have contempt for the would-be "whistleblowers".

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« Reply #698 on: July 06, 2011, 12:49:16 PM »
I learning a lot here!! What you say makes sense but I'm not sure how this occurs. I mean, TTFF are sanctioned by FIFA and act as their representatives via CONCACAF. They are submissive to FIFA through CONCACAF. So isn't it like, say, if the local Burger King manager broke a law in T&T, and the head office in USA had evidence, they wouldn't have to tell Gibbs if he asked? I mean, if Burger King (USA) want to sell franchises in T&T, surely they must agree that they would not conspire to defeat the laws of that country?

I know that may sound confusing, but I'm sure you get my drift. I didn't realise organisations could just ignore the laws of countries in which their people operate.   

Companies will often respond "in good faith" to law enforcements attempts to investigate a crime.  However this good faith is usually demonstrated when there is clear evidence upon which an investigation can be launched.  You'll be hard pressed to find any private organization that is willing to do law enforcement's job and conduct investigations then simply say "here it's all yours" unless there is a personal vendetta/ ill feelings towards the subject of such investigation.  So going with your example if the parent company of Burger King decides to have their annual conference in T&T and while there a high profile employee who happens to be a T&T native does something against their internal policy and is brought up on charges (within the company).  Their investigations however does not take place in T&T but it becomes public.  Even with the suspiscion of legal wrongdoing having occured in T&T the company which is not a T&T company would be under no obligation to turn over the evidence they aquired in their internal investigations.  Now if they want to disgrace the individual they may respond in "good faith" and turn over the material they have that possibly incriminates the subject of the investigations.  It has to be this way though because then you'd have countries with more political muscle infringing on what are now sovereiegn rights of smaller/ less powerful nations.

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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #699 on: July 06, 2011, 05:40:49 PM »
I have ah question, could this verdict follow bans for the federations who failed to report the bribe?
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« Reply #700 on: July 06, 2011, 06:19:16 PM »
I see those 12 nations mentioned could cause the CFU voting split. They would not be saddled by any "kingpin" anymore. I think the USor Mex or both will try to get them in their corner to counter the remaining Carib. votes.

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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #701 on: July 07, 2011, 09:35:31 AM »
I have ah question, could this verdict follow bans for the federations who failed to report the bribe?

failure to report maybe (depends on the constitution/ bylaws) but because it was common place to recieve cash gifts I would lean towards no.  Failure to submit themselves to the ethics committee investigation may result in sanctions though.  Not sure about all out bans.

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« Reply #702 on: July 07, 2011, 07:50:22 PM »

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/932810/jack-warner-rejects-claims-he-voted-for-qatar?cc=3888

Warner denies Qatar claims
 
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Jack Warner has described as "nonsense" claims by one of his close associates that he voted for Qatar instead of the United States to be hosts of the 2022 World Cup.

Warner was, until his resignation last month three weeks after his provisional suspension on corruption charges, president of the CONCACAF confederation made up of countries from North and Central America and the Caribbean, as well as a FIFA vice-president.

As CONCACAF president, it would have been shocking for Warner to have backed Qatar over the USA, one of the countries in his confederation.

But Patrick John, president of the Dominica Football Association and a long-time ally of Warner, claims that he did vote for Qatar - and that the charges against Warner were a result of a conspiracy organised in response by USA and England.

John told local radio in Dominica: "The whole thing is a conspiracy against Jack Warner. Jack promised the United States to push for the World Cup but when the thing came along at FIFA level Jack supported Qatar. That hurt the United States.

"Jack promised the English FA to push for the World Cup for them, but Jack sided with Russia so these two federations are up in arms against Jack. They are the only federations making trouble."

Warner insisted that was not the case, saying in an email: "If Mr John did say so then that is nonsense but I imagine that one day all of this foolishness will come to an end."

Warner and fellow FIFA member Mohamed Bin Hammam were provisionally suspended after being charged with bribery. It was alleged they organised cash gifts totalling one million US dollars to Caribbean officials while Bin Hammam was campaigning for the FIFA presidency.

Bin Hammam expressed his hope that he will receive a fair hearing when he appears before FIFA's ethics committee later this month. The 62-year-old said he was disappointed by "continuous leaks of confidential information".

He said on his website: "I am still looking for and hoping to receive a fair hearing - one which will not be influenced by any political agenda or motivation.

"These proceedings were initiated based on the allegations of vote buying. I hope that, by now, the investigation has identified whether or not there had been attempts by me - directly or indirectly - to buy votes, particularly from those who claimed to have received these monies.

"I hope that the decision will be made solely by the members of this committee and based solely on the facts presented and not based on assumptions or the wishes of people outside the committee."

Bin Hammam repeated his earlier claim that "there has been a bias against me".

FIFA's ethics committee will meet on July 22 and 23 to hear the case against Bin Hammam, who had been the Asian confederation president until his suspension.

The investigations by the committee have been completed and their report has been sent to the Qatari. The ethics committee will also hear the cases of Debbie Minguell and Jason Sylvester, the two Caribbean Football Union officials who were also suspended.

FIFA dropped the investigation against Warner following his resignation from football-related activities, saying he was no longer under their jurisdiction.
 







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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #703 on: July 07, 2011, 08:21:35 PM »
TT duo face FIFA Ethics Committee
By Clint Chan Tack
Thursday, July 7 2011
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http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,143461.html


TWO Trinidad and Tobago nationals, Debbie Minguell and Jason Sylvester, are to appear before FIFA’s ethics committee on July 22 and 23 in Zurich, Switzerland to answer bribery allegations that have been made against them. The duo, who are employed with the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) were suspended by the committee May 29 along with Asian Football Confederation president Mohammed bin Hamman, who will also appear before the committee during this same period. FIFA’s investigators have gathered further evidence of bribery by suspended executive bin Hammam during his campaign to become president of world football’s governing body, a person familiar with the case said yesterday.

The corruption report compiled by former FBI agents was sent to bin Hammam last week. Nine of the 24 Caribbean Football Union members who attended a meeting in Port-of-Spain in May have now admitted to ex-FBI director Louis Freeh that they were offered or accepted US$40,000 payments from bin Hammam by a source.

Bin Hammam and two Caribbean football officials are accused of involvement in a plot to bribe executives in the Caribbean ahead of the Qatari’s challenge to topple FIFA President Sepp Blatter.

Minguell and Sylvester have not publicly responded to the allegations made against them and there was no indication was to whether they have obtained legal representation for the forthcoming hearings.

In a statement, FIFA said, “The FIFA ethics committee will meet on 22 and 23 July to examine the case of Mohammed bin Hamman, Debbie Minguell and Jason Sylvester who were provisionally suspended by the ethics committee on May 29, 2011 in relation to an alleged breach of the FIFA code of ethics and the FIFA disciplinary code.”

FIFA indicated that bin Hamman, Minguell and Sylvester have received the report on the investigations conducted by the ethics committee since May 29 and have been invited to present their position in writing prior to the hearings on July 22. FIFA also said at the hearings, the ethics committee, bin Hamman, Minguell and Sylvester will “have the opportunity to call on potential witnesses.”

However former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner may not be one of those witnesses even if he is called by bin Hamman, Minguell, Sylvester or the ethics committee to testify at the hearings.

Legal sources said if Warner is called to appear as a witness at the hearings, his participation would be strictly voluntary since he is no longer a FIFA vice-president. Warner, who was suspended at the same time as bin Hamman, Minguell and Sylvester on the same allegations, resigned from FIFA last month. As a result of his resignation, FIFA discontinued its probe against him and said Warner is presumed innocent.

Sources added that the ethics committee is not a court of law and has no power to force Warner to appear before it. FIFA, in its statement, also said that on July 23, “the ethics committee will deliberate and decide on the cases.” Following a function at the Chaguanas Government Primary School yesterday, Warner made no comment about the hearings or any FIFA matter when asked by reporters.

In a statement on June 22, Warner said he had not received a final report from the ethics committee but copies of the preliminary investigation by the ethics committee were sent to him, his lawyer and to the CONCACAF office in New York.

Sources said while Warner has received a lot of correspondence from the ethics committee, only he could decide whether such information should be made available to the Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar.


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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #706 on: July 15, 2011, 03:54:52 PM »
There is more to come out of this ! Exoneration by FIFA is only at the institutional level. At the national and international levels crimes appear to have been committed and  can be pursued if the Police Departments choose to take action? This whole issue was so widely covered, I don't think this is the end of this matter! Be careful of the web you weave you can get entrapped in it, Poor Uncle Jack!

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« Reply #707 on: July 15, 2011, 06:49:03 PM »
"The involvement of Simpaul Travel in the logistics of the Trinidad and Tobago conference raises the issue of whether Mr Warner may have been the beneficiary of related parties' transactions," says the report.

Interesting. You would think that Jack had learned by then that using Simpaul would always raise questions in peoples minds.

I feel this won't go away and the 12 federations refusing to co operate could face a total football ban. Unfortunately, this could finish T&T's 2014 preparations. Camps should be forced by public outrage to cooperate.

Imagine....T&T banned from international football. Journalists should attack Jack and Kamla and force them to either make Camps testify or make him resign, withdraw every single dollar of funding and remove any political recognition.

Of course, by doing that, it makes Warners position very unstable. But all Camps has to say is "I didn't see nuttin"

What we have here is Jack being protected by Camps at the cost of T&T footballs international participation.

Disgusting.

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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #708 on: July 15, 2011, 10:35:21 PM »
"The involvement of Simpaul Travel in the logistics of the Trinidad and Tobago conference raises the issue of whether Mr Warner may have been the beneficiary of related parties' transactions," says the report.

Interesting. You would think that Jack had learned by then that using Simpaul would always raise questions in peoples minds.

I feel this won't go away and the 12 federations refusing to co operate could face a total football ban. Unfortunately, this could finish T&T's 2014 preparations. Camps should be forced by public outrage to cooperate.

Imagine....T&T banned from international football. Journalists should attack Jack and Kamla and force them to either make Camps testify or make him resign, withdraw every single dollar of funding and remove any political recognition.

Of course, by doing that, it makes Warners position very unstable. But all Camps has to say is "I didn't see nuttin"

What we have here is Jack being protected by Camps at the cost of T&T footballs international participation.

Disgusting.

We are not at that point yet, yuh jumping the gun but I can understand your argument!!
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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #709 on: July 17, 2011, 09:02:36 AM »
Bin Hammam refuse to cooperate.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/15/mohamed-bin-hammam-bribery-investigation
      What's the latest on this Hammam guy?i thought his case and the case of the other two Trinis involved was on the 17th.Anybody in the know could update us?

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« Reply #711 on: July 22, 2011, 03:33:30 PM »
Bin Hammam Expects Lifetime Football Ban But Vows to Appeal
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« Reply #712 on: July 23, 2011, 11:33:00 AM »
Bin Hammam banned for life by FIFA

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/23/us-soccer-fifa-binhammam-idUSTRE76M2HX20110723

ZURICH (Reuters) - Asian soccer chief Mohamed Bin Hammam was banned for life on Saturday after being found guilty by world soccer's ruling body of trying to buy votes ahead of last month's FIFA presidential election.
Saturday's decision was announced by FIFA's ethics committee following a two-day hearing. Qatari Bin Hammam withdrew his candidacy on May 29 and Swiss Sepp Blatter was re-elected president unopposed for a fourth term three days later.
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« Reply #713 on: July 23, 2011, 01:12:23 PM »
It's bullshit... but I don't really see what his purpose is by appealing.  Why fight to be a part of something that don't want yuh?

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Re: Mohamed Bin Hammam and Jack Warner charged by FIFA over alleged bribes
« Reply #714 on: July 23, 2011, 06:43:38 PM »
i still tryin tuh understand how Sepp walk back into dat FIFA chair unopposed..and have he henchmen so called ethics committee doing his bad deeds for him....

unbelievable....
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« Reply #715 on: July 23, 2011, 08:36:29 PM »
i still tryin tuh understand how Sepp walk back into dat FIFA chair unopposed..and have he henchmen so called ethics committee doing his bad deeds for him....

unbelievable....

Not hard to understand at all... keep yuh friends close... and yuh enemies closer.  Jack overplay he hand... is like ah scene from one ah dem classic gangster flick, Jack is Sepp man but neither ah dem trust each other so secretly they start putting things in motion.  Jack like what Bin Hammam had to offer... I sure race played no small part.  Jack, Bin Hammam and CONCACAF square off against the European bosses.  Then they realize they in ah Mexican standoff but before Jack could tell Blazer to shoot dem Blazer swing de gun on him and walk over to Blatter side... joined by Bahamas, Puert Rico and ah handful others.

Think about it enough and yuh'll realize even you coulda write dat script.

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« Reply #716 on: July 24, 2011, 12:26:17 AM »
well if daiz how it play out...he didnt watch enough gangsta movie tuh realize yuh doe battle with d hand dat feed ya...

I sure if he did play he cards right...he mighta even be able tuh become d head ah FIFA after Sepp step down but he gone like a thusty man looking for ah quick brush...and tuh make matters worse..he forget tuh hide he piggy when he get catch....

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« Reply #717 on: July 24, 2011, 05:44:47 AM »
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« Reply #718 on: July 24, 2011, 05:47:48 AM »
well if daiz how it play out...he didnt watch enough gangsta movie tuh realize yuh doe battle with d hand dat feed ya...

I sure if he did play he cards right...he mighta even be able tuh become d head ah FIFA after Sepp step down but he gone like a thusty man looking for ah quick brush...and tuh make matters worse..he forget tuh hide he piggy when he get catch....


       Don't matter what card Jack played he would have get catch,the longest rope have an end and his time reached,the point is they were all out for him,all who was keeping secrets for him turned against him because he was too powerfull and any how you still wanted him to be president of FIFA with all this baggage he has been carrying,i think 30 yrs was enough,he went as far as he could go,did what he can for T&T and himself so now he could relax.  

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« Reply #719 on: July 24, 2011, 08:09:05 AM »
well if daiz how it play out...he didnt watch enough gangsta movie tuh realize yuh doe battle with d hand dat feed ya...

I sure if he did play he cards right...he mighta even be able tuh become d head ah FIFA after Sepp step down but he gone like a thusty man looking for ah quick brush...and tuh make matters worse..he forget tuh hide he piggy when he get catch....


       Don't matter what card Jack played he would have get catch,the longest rope have an end and his time reached,the point is they were all out for him,all who was keeping secrets for him turned against him because he was too powerfull and any how you still wanted him to be president of FIFA with all this baggage he has been carrying,i think 30 yrs was enough,he went as far as he could go,did what he can for T&T and himself so now he could relax.  

I stioll trying to f**king understand what he do for T&T?  Fiull me in please Coops...and thanks eh.

 

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