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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #180 on: October 17, 2011, 12:56:54 PM »
I hope MM and CM get thru oui caw dem fellaz love football bad.  Is fellaz like deze Trini football really need right now.

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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #181 on: October 18, 2011, 06:27:01 AM »
Mr. Anil Roberts
The Honourable Minister of Sport and Youth Affairs
Port of Spain
12 October 2011


Honourable Minister,

On Sunday 28 August 2011, the member clubs of the Eastern Football Association were supposed to elect a new executive committee to manage the Association’s affairs for the period September 2011 to August 2013.

The seventeen clubs assembled for the EFA’s Annual General Meeting were denied the opportunity to do so when Wayne Riley, the returning officer appointed by the TTFF with the consent of the outgoing executive committee but ultra vires the EFA Constitution and without the agreement of the assembled clubs, declared the candidates nominated by FC Santa Rosa and seconded by Prisons Sports Club to have been improperly seconded and, therefore, ineligible to contest the election.

On that basis, Riley went on to declare the slate of candidates comprising the incumbent officers to be unopposed and returned to office for the new twoyear term. The meeting was never shown the letter in question.

Riley made his unilateral and illegal decision based on the presentation by persons unknown, of a letter from a person claiming to be the secretary of the Prisons Sports Club, who also claimed that the officer who signed on behalf of Prisons Sports Club to second the slate of candidates headed by Keith Look Loy was unauthorized to do so.

Despite the protestation of the affected candidates, the representative of the Prisons Sports Club and other clubs present, Riley declared his decision and left the meeting, which the outgoing EFA president, Lennox Watson, promptly closed and also left.

Thirteen of the seventeen clubs in attendance immediately wrote and signed a letter to the EFA/TTFF demanding the holding of the election on Sunday 4 September 2011.

Both organizations have ignored the clubs’ demand. The president of the Prisons Sports Club, John Rougier, who is also the Commissioner of Prisons, has since written a letter condemning the letter of the purported Club secretary as “null, void, ultra vires and without legal standing”, and reiterating the Club’s support for the candidates it has properly seconded: Keith Look Loy, Roger Griffith, Frank Rodriguez, Anil Maraj and Fallon Thomas.

Meantime, we have made multiple requests for a copy of the letter on which Riley based his decision. These requests have been ignored. We have also made multiple requests for a copy of Riley’s report to the TTFF. These requests have also been ignored.

On 6 October 2011, fourteen (14) member clubs attended a General Council meeting on the official invitation of EFA general secretary Neville Ferguson. At that meeting the clubs refused to install the EFA’s purported officers according to the EFA constitution, and moved and seconded the following motion.

“Given the events which affected the election of officers scheduled for 28 August 2011, be it resolved that this General Council meeting of 6 October 2011 mandates the EFA general secretary to organize an election of officers to be held on the morning of Sunday 30 October 2011, the deadline for the nomination of candidates being Sunday 16 October 2011”.

At the point of voting on the motion, Ferguson, who was in the chair, declared the proceedings to be unconstitutional as the purported officers had not been installed and ended the meeting.

On 7 October 2011, FC Santa Rosa wrote to TTFF general secretary Richard Groden regarding Ferguson’s conduct of this meeting, yet again seeking the Federation’s intervention.

On 12 October 2011 Groden responded to the club’s letter via email, indicating that TTFF president Oliver Camps has decided to appoint a three‐member committee to investigate the political impasse.

The clubs met on that evening, formed the Movement for Football Excellence (MOVE) and agreed to the appointment of said committee, but in letter to Camps dated 13 October 2011, we have indicated our concern that the committee should be impartial and should include the ability to address the constitutional and legal issues that are at the heart of the impasse. We have, therefore, proposed the inclusion of Larry Romany, president of the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee, as well Tyrone Marcus, an attorney in your Ministry and an official of the TT Pro League, as the committee’s other members.

MOVE intends to resist the travesty that passes for politics in the EFA, and to keep the struggle for democracy and development in the Association, and the TTFF by extension, alive. We refuse to allow our opponents to trample on the most basic principles of Fair Play, Natural Justice and Democracy.

The resolution of this matter could easily be achieved by the TTFF and EFA, and rests squarely on their willingness to act in accordance with the most basic principles of Democracy. MOVE hopes that both organizations will do the right thing.

We bring this matter directly to your attention to ensure that you are aware of what is taking place within the TTFF, given your Ministry’s key role in financing aspects of the TTFF operations. We attach a copy of relevant documents for your perusal.

In closing, we wish to make it absolutely clear that we intend to pursue this matter to the end, wherever the end may be. The member clubs of the Eastern Football Association must have their say, their right to democratically elect their executive leadership must be observed. We hope for a response.

Best regards,
Signed by:

Barataria Ballplayers FC
Carib FC
Creek Sports Club
FC Santa Rosa
La Horquetta FX
La Horquetta Sporting Academy
Malabar FC
Pinto United FC
Prisons Sports Club
St. John’s United FC
Tunapuna Titans FC
Upper Santa Cruz FC
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #182 on: October 18, 2011, 06:28:44 AM »
Oliver Camps
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Port of Spain
13 October 2011


Dear Sir,

I respond to email messages from Richard Groden, dated 12/10/2011 and 13/10/2011, which I will take as official communication, advising of the TTFF president’s decision to appoint a three member committee to investigate the current political impasse in the Eastern Football Association.

The member clubs of the Movement for Football Excellence (MOVE) accept the principle of having a committee investigate the entire impasse. However, we are concerned that the committee should be impartial and include in its membership an ability to address the constitutional and legal issues which lie at the heart of the EFA impasse.

In this regard, we take note of the fact that the other committee members appointed by the TTFF are Krishna Kuarsingh and Sherwyn Dyer, both members of the TTFF executive committee. According to a letter read by EFA secretary Neville Ferguson into the record of the EFA General Council on 6 October 2011, the TTFF executive committee has already discussed the aborted EFA election of 28 August 2011 and issued a congratulatory letter to purported EFA president Lennox Watson – a TTFF vice president and his team of candidates on their purported victory.

In light of the foregoing, while we readily accept the proposed chairmanship of TTFF Vice-president, Rudy Thomas, we categorically reject the inclusion of Kuarsingh and Dyer. Instead, we propose that the President of the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee, Larry Romany (or his representative), and respected sports attorney Tyrone Marcus, who is a TT Pro League official, should be included as the
committee’s other members. These are persons of integrity and repute in the sporting world and who, most importantly, have no connection to this matter.

Further, MOVE wishes this committee to conclude on the matter with urgency as the EFA is now without a constitutionally appointed General Council, executive committee, or standing committees.

We await your response.
Best regards.
Keith Look Loy
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #183 on: October 18, 2011, 07:54:41 AM »
 :applause: :applause:

Pressure does buss pipe!!!  Like we might have to put Camps on nervous break down alert......
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Or yuh shoes burst off,
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #184 on: October 18, 2011, 11:04:35 AM »
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Pressure does buss pipe!!!  Like we might have to put Camps on nervous break down alert......

Yeah? Well add in this little conundrum. TTFF ordered to pay by today $4.2 million to the players. Three scenarios available:
1) They pay. OK, so where did the money come from? TTFF told the Minister of Sport that they were broke, so how come they had money? Oh, its a loan, I see. So who loaned it, and on who's authority was it accepted? TTFF have no income, so they can't service the loan. Therefore, it is improper for the Executive to approve such a debt with no visible means of servicing it and no assets to set against it. In effect, the loanee can now force TTFF into bankruptcy at any time. Not good business practice and this should result in the immediate dismantling of TTFF with a new structure to be put in place.
2) They will ask for more time. This is not acceptable as they did ask for more time, without giving a particular reason i.e. arranging finance etc. The court agreed on 7 days and TTFF's lawters accepted this on behalf of their clients. Non payment, I believe is contempt of court. Bakes...any input here?
3) They say they can't pay. This should then result into TTFF filing for bankruptcy and an ensuing investigation to ascertain if the executive officers are guilty of mismanagement etc a la Clico. 

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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #185 on: October 18, 2011, 04:10:45 PM »
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Pressure does buss pipe!!!  Like we might have to put Camps on nervous break down alert......

Yeah? Well add in this little conundrum. TTFF ordered to pay by today $4.2 million to the players. Three scenarios available:
1) They pay. OK, so where did the money come from? TTFF told the Minister of Sport that they were broke, so how come they had money? Oh, its a loan, I see. So who loaned it, and on who's authority was it accepted? TTFF have no income, so they can't service the loan. Therefore, it is improper for the Executive to approve such a debt with no visible means of servicing it and no assets to set against it. In effect, the loanee can now force TTFF into bankruptcy at any time. Not good business practice and this should result in the immediate dismantling of TTFF with a new structure to be put in place.
2) They will ask for more time. This is not acceptable as they did ask for more time, without giving a particular reason i.e. arranging finance etc. The court agreed on 7 days and TTFF's lawters accepted this on behalf of their clients. Non payment, I believe is contempt of court. Bakes...any input here?
3) They say they can't pay. This should then result into TTFF filing for bankruptcy and an ensuing investigation to ascertain if the executive officers are guilty of mismanagement etc a la Clico. 
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #186 on: October 18, 2011, 04:34:15 PM »
Good adherence to protocol by Look Loy.  Let's see how far it will get him though.  Looks like the TTFF trying to pussyfoot around the crux of the issue by appointing some partial men.  Camps and he batallion need to go for football in TnT to clean up.

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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #187 on: October 18, 2011, 10:57:10 PM »
3) They say they can't pay. This should then result into TTFF filing for bankruptcy and an ensuing investigation to ascertain if the executive officers are guilty of mismanagement etc a la Clico. 

Is really up to the judge... if he feels disrespected then he can cite them for contempt.  If he continues to buy their bullshit he'll just keep giving them rope.

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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #188 on: October 20, 2011, 06:45:45 AM »
Don’t play rough with regional football.
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The call by Jamaica’s candidate for the presidency of the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), Tony James, for greater transparency on the part of FIFA with regard to the bans, suspensions and warnings handed out to a number of CFU officials has great merit to it.

Last week, FIFA expanded the number of sanctions taken against CFU officials in the matter related to the alleged giving and accepting of bribes from then FIFA presidential candidate, Mohamed bin Hammam, allegedly aided and abetted by former CFU president and FIFA vice president Jack Warner.

With the world football body having spent quite an amount of time and money investigating the allegations and making several statements on the matter, “now they have to follow up with a press release indicating what they have done and why they have done it. 

People have been guessing and it shouldn’t be like that. FIFA should explain why X person has been banned for X time,” states Mr James. We join cause with Mr James because FIFA, notwithstanding its all-powerful nature, is ultimately an organisation of member football associations and so has a major responsibility to those organisations.

So too does the governing body of football have a responsibility to the hundreds of millions of football fans who are the very reason why football is a multi-billion dollar industry, perhaps one of the largest and most country-representative in the world.

We are all now very familiar with the bribery allegations made against the CFU officials including Mr Warner, who was then FIFA vice president and Mr bin Hammam, who was contesting the presidency of FIFA against the incumbent Sepp Blatter.

There is also the promise of Mr Warner to “tell all” at the appropriate time with regard to the practices of FIFA across national boundaries over many decades.

As Mr James has rightly said, there is need for transparency, clarity and reason in the statements from FIFA on the actions taken against several CFU officials.

This requirement for clarity becomes even more urgent because of the allegations by Mr Warner that what FIFA is doing is seeking to severely weaken the CFU member states in football.

Among other allegations, Mr Warner claims that by year end, FIFA plans to remove its development office from Trinidad and has already, through an unnamed official, relocated the CFU office from Port-of-Spain to Miami; the outcome being that any Caribbean official wanting to be at CFU meetings must have a US visa. This latter move would appear to be a case of the business of the Caribbean being determined outside of the region.

Most importantly, separate and apart from the contentions against CFU officials, we call on FIFA to tell the region immediately if it will be penalised in terms of the development of its football because a few CFU officials have been accused of corrupt activity.

If this is so, it would be manifestly unfair, unacceptable, unwarranted and against the norms of natural justice to penalise the development of football in an entire region—including the relocation of the CFU office—because of the alleged misdeeds of a few. Mr Blatter must know that Caribbean peoples will not take easily any unwarranted attacks against the football prospects of the region.

Surely football development in the region must not be subject to conflict between parent body FIFA and a few football officials of the Caribbean. Moreover, it must be recognised that the CFU has membership associations of 25 countries which cannot and must not be penalised without reason.

This responsibility for transparency and accountability goes beyond whether Mr Warner and all the accused CFU officials were guilty or not, in some form or manner, of participating in illegal activities at the May meeting of the CFU here with Mr  bin Hammam.

In giving each FIFA members the vote, the organisation has accepted the status of the member countries and its citizens as participants in the football family. FIFA has an obligation to treat all members of the family with fairness, balance and objectivity.

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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #189 on: October 31, 2011, 07:04:36 AM »
TOBAGO FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION

Room # 12 Fairfield Complex, Bacolet Street, Scarborough, Tobago
Tel/Fax. 639‐3953 & 387‐0112
25, October 2011
Mr. Richard Groden
General Secretary
Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation
Dundonald Street
Port -of- Spain, Trinidad

Dear Sir,
It is with a deep sense of concern and alarm that we the Executive members of the Tobago Football
Association view the current situation now taking place in the Eastern Football Association as it
relates to its recent elections or rather non elections.

We want to categorically state from the onset, we take no side in this matter. However all we seek to
do is to ensure that equality, natural justice and fair play is served, administered and strict adherence
to the tenets to the constitution is observed and the sacred rights of all the member clubs be protected
and preserved.

Any action short of this will be a great travesty one of which we can ill afford at this juncture in our
development of the beautiful game in our nation.

To this end we the executive of the T.F.A wishes to express our unwavering support and solidarity to
the clubs of the E.F.A in their quest to elect their true representatives and leadership of their choice
and therefore take this opportunity now to make our loud clarion call for fresh elections free and fair
and free from fear.

We therefore stand awaiting positive outcomes toward the continued of the national football and
human development. Thanking you in advance for your understanding and appreciation of the
foregoing.

Yours respectfully,
Raymond Alleyne

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President: Raymond Alleyne, Vice Presidents: Kerry Lynch, & Andell Bruce,
General Secretary: Hayden Duke, Secretary Operation: Tony Antoine
Secretary Administration: Bernard Allum.
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #190 on: October 31, 2011, 07:28:35 PM »
What is happening with the election of President of TTFF? The same principle should apply! Clubs should have a vote for the ne President! Is any attention being paid to this by the  Minister  of Sport?

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« Reply #191 on: October 31, 2011, 08:07:37 PM »
The twelve clubs of MOVE (Movement for Football Excellence) wrote to Anil Roberts in mid-October to apprise him of the situation in the Eastern FA, and the attempt of Lennox Watson (now TTFF president) to hijack their election. He has not even acknowledged their letter but calling on cricket administrators to resign. Amazing...
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #192 on: November 01, 2011, 04:17:45 PM »
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #193 on: November 04, 2011, 06:19:13 AM »
Hijack of Eastern-FA continues.

The move by Lennox Watson, Neville Ferguson and associates to consolidate their hijack of the Eastern FA continued last evening at the Andre Kamperveen Hall of the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence at a meeting of the EFA General council chaired by Ferguson.

Over the objection of member clubs, Ferguson proceeded with the "installation of officers" by Brian Layne (TTFF executive committee member).
 
Protesting clubs sought to argue against the meeting agenda, which included the installation of officers as the first business item.

They also attempted to argue that former TTFF president Oliver Camps had established a committee under the chairmanship of TTFF vice-president Rudy Thomas to investigate the electoral impasse in the east.

This committee has not as yet met with the EFA clubs but had indicated unofficially yesterday afternoon that it wished to convene the first meeting on 10 November 2011.

Ferguson never listened or responded to these arguments and proiceeded with the manipulation of last evening's meeting, which entirely circumvents the work of this investigative committee.
 
Notably, of the thirteen (13) clubs in attendance, nine (9) walked out of the meeting during the purported installation of officers. These clubs will meet on the weekend to discuss their response to the latest turn of events.

These clubs are:

Barataria Ballplayers FC
Carib FC
Creek Sports and Cultural club
FC Santa Rosa
La Horquetta Sporting Academy
Malabar FC
Pinto United FC
Prisons Sports Club
St. John's United FC
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« Reply #194 on: November 04, 2011, 07:33:18 AM »
So why don't the 9 clubs just form their own league? Then they can formally be recognised as the East Zone representatives and earn a place on TTFF board. It can be done....its exactly what the English Premier League did!

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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #195 on: November 04, 2011, 10:23:51 AM »
So why don't the 9 clubs just form their own league? Then they can formally be recognised as the East Zone representatives and earn a place on TTFF board. It can be done....its exactly what the English Premier League did!

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« Reply #196 on: November 04, 2011, 10:45:11 AM »
Comrades, the EPL did not leave the English FA. Moreover, the English FA is hardly the JUNGLE that the TTFF is. The EPl clubs were able to negotiate their formation of a new league - much as the TT Pro League did. They didn't CHALLENGE the political status quo as Look Loy and MOVE are doing. The formation of another regional association would NEVER be accepted by the TTFF, the owners of which have carefully crafted the geographical boundaries and political network over time - twenty-odd years. That said, change must come and no dictatorship lasts forever. People just have to be determined enough and smart enough to win! And that is what TTFF meet this time...

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EFA impasse Clubs call for ‘special meeting’ in East Zone
« Reply #197 on: November 09, 2011, 05:51:19 AM »
Eastern Football Association impasse Clubs call for ‘special meeting’ in East Zone
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Six member clubs of the Eastern Football Association have signed a petition calling for a Special General Meeting of the Association on November 20 in which to mandate a democratic election in the EFA. Among the signatories are Keith Look Loy (FC Santa Rosa), Brian DA Bain (Pinto United FC), Frank Cazabon (St John’s United FC), Farlon Thomas (La Horquetta Sporting Academy), Edward Manning (Barataria Ball Players FC), Lincoln Augustus (Creek SCC). According to a press release submitted by the group MOVE, “this petition is further evidence that the member clubs of MOVE refuse to acknowledge the renegade regime that is seeking to impose itself on the membership of the EFA - a regime that NO-ONE HAS VOTED FOR, but which claims to have "won" the aborted election of August 28.

This renegade regime has consistently ignored and abused the EFA constitution, and every principle of natural justice and Fair Play in its drive to maintain itself in power. It has also employed its interlocking with the leadership of the TTFF, and every other means at its disposal, to undermine democracy in the EFA, and the TTFF by extension. Ultimately, this will fail.” The petition has been delivered to Neville Ferguson, secretary of the Eastern Football Association.

It reads: “Article 10.11 of the Eastern Football Association states: “Any (sic) extraordinary General Meeting may be called by the General Council whenever it deems fit, or upon special requisition made by at least 33 1/3 % of the Full Membership, who must submit copies of the Minutes of the Meetings which were held by each member when a decision was taken and whose requisition must state specifically the business to be transacted at the meeting called for. Such a meeting must be conveyed within 14 days of the receipt of the said requisition.” “We hereby call for the convening of a special general meeting to be held on November 20.

The business of this meeting would be to discuss and vote on the following resolution. “Given the political impasse in the Eastern Football Association and the dissatisfaction of clubs, be it resolved that the clubs of the EFA instruct the EFA secretariat to organise an election of officers. Be it further resolved that the EFA clubs also instruct the EFA secretariat to organise said election on Sunday 4 December 2011, i.e. two weeks after the adoption of this resolution, consistent with Article 10:4 of the EFA Constitution, which requires nominations to be submitted to the EFA secretariat at least 14 days before the date of an election.”
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« Reply #198 on: November 09, 2011, 08:02:15 AM »
Prez, I never said that the EPL left the English FA. The founding clubs of the EPL resigned from the Football League (similar, I guess to the Pro League). They were dissatisfied in how football was being run and negotiated their own tv deal as a limited company. This met with the approval of the English F.A.

The TTFF jungle, as you describe it, is nothing more than a fiefdom controlled by self appointing undeperformers. This description could also apply to the English football League back in the 90's. There was this mix of public school old boys in cohoots with their former schoolmates at the Football Association and old school club owners in the lower leagues who ran their clubs as hobbies, not interested in progressive marketing or stadium development.

The EPL resignations were unprecedented. The F.A. had no choice but to support it. They also saw that the business plan was good for football.

In this instance, there is no way TTFF would support a breakaway league. But is that necessary? Couldn't 9 or 10 clubs just organise themselves? The East Zone would have no product. The new breakaway league would have proper organisation and attract sponsors. They could market themselves. They may even be able to entice clubs from other leagues to join.

It takes a revoloution to overthrow dictators. If they really want to rebuild T&T football from the grassroots, this is the way to do it. The zone can't operate without the teams and players. 

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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #199 on: November 18, 2011, 02:14:12 PM »
Eastern Football Association impasse Clubs call for ‘special meeting’ in East Zone
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Six member clubs of the Eastern Football Association have signed a petition calling for a Special General Meeting of the Association on November 20 in which to mandate a democratic election in the EFA. Among the signatories are Keith Look Loy (FC Santa Rosa), Brian DA Bain (Pinto United FC), Frank Cazabon (St John’s United FC), Farlon Thomas (La Horquetta Sporting Academy), Edward Manning (Barataria Ball Players FC), Lincoln Augustus (Creek SCC). According to a press release submitted by the group MOVE, “this petition is further evidence that the member clubs of MOVE refuse to acknowledge the renegade regime that is seeking to impose itself on the membership of the EFA - a regime that NO-ONE HAS VOTED FOR, but which claims to have "won" the aborted election of August 28.

This renegade regime has consistently ignored and abused the EFA constitution, and every principle of natural justice and Fair Play in its drive to maintain itself in power. It has also employed its interlocking with the leadership of the TTFF, and every other means at its disposal, to undermine democracy in the EFA, and the TTFF by extension. Ultimately, this will fail.” The petition has been delivered to Neville Ferguson, secretary of the Eastern Football Association.

It reads: “Article 10.11 of the Eastern Football Association states: “Any (sic) extraordinary General Meeting may be called by the General Council whenever it deems fit, or upon special requisition made by at least 33 1/3 % of the Full Membership, who must submit copies of the Minutes of the Meetings which were held by each member when a decision was taken and whose requisition must state specifically the business to be transacted at the meeting called for. Such a meeting must be conveyed within 14 days of the receipt of the said requisition.” “We hereby call for the convening of a special general meeting to be held on November 20.

The business of this meeting would be to discuss and vote on the following resolution. “Given the political impasse in the Eastern Football Association and the dissatisfaction of clubs, be it resolved that the clubs of the EFA instruct the EFA secretariat to organise an election of officers. Be it further resolved that the EFA clubs also instruct the EFA secretariat to organise said election on Sunday 4 December 2011, i.e. two weeks after the adoption of this resolution, consistent with Article 10:4 of the EFA Constitution, which requires nominations to be submitted to the EFA secretariat at least 14 days before the date of an election.”

Bump. Two days til the the special assembly forced by dissenting EFA clubs. The jail guard will have a lot on his plate. Under all the talk about development and funding, THIS is where the battle for football could see its first victory or defeat. Watch this space. President and others, keep us updated please.
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #200 on: November 18, 2011, 02:37:03 PM »
Of the thirteen clubs that signed the first petition calling for an election - on the very day of the election (28 August 2011) aborted by Watson and his clique by having Look Loy's slate declared improperly seconded - only SEVEN appear to remain solid in their demand for an election. This will be decided tomorrow.
By way of threat of victimization, including job loss, promises of benefits to be provided by acting TTFF president Watson, and a slander campaign against Look Loy, the EFA/TTFF clique, supported by corporate and poilitical figures, have been able to seduce and/or bully support away from the Look Loy camp. Clubs that have beeen strong in their criticism of the EFA clique over many months have turned tail and run in the last week. There are no ethical considerations here. And, of course, there were already clubs that actually SUPPORT the TTFF clique because they enjoy little benefits from the system.
Win, lose, or draw on Saturday, people generally, and on SWO, in particular, need to understand the EFA is a microcosm of the TTFF and removing the TTFF clique and transforming the Federation will not happen simply because the public and football players are fed up of them. The TTFF clique is entrenched in so many areas of football and national life. This is the nature of dictatorship. The options are: 1) a long term grassroots struggle by the clubs for democracy, and/or 2) FIFA intervention in the wake of the Federation being declared bankrupt in December.
All of the above said, the progressive clubs will attend tomorrow's meeting to fight for what is right. Win lose or draw in that vote, the PEOPLE of TNT need to demonstrate TANGIBLY that they support the transformation that everybody is demanding but not enough people are FIGHTING for. Maybe it's time for an "Occupy TTFF" Movement?
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #201 on: November 18, 2011, 07:11:40 PM »
Of the thirteen clubs that signed the first petition calling for an election - on the very day of the election (28 August 2011) aborted by Watson and his clique by having Look Loy's slate declared improperly seconded - only SEVEN appear to remain solid in their demand for an election. This will be decided tomorrow.
By way of threat of victimization, including job loss, promises of benefits to be provided by acting TTFF president Watson, and a slander campaign against Look Loy, the EFA/TTFF clique, supported by corporate and poilitical figures, have been able to seduce and/or bully support away from the Look Loy camp. Clubs that have beeen strong in their criticism of the EFA clique over many months have turned tail and run in the last week. There are no ethical considerations here. And, of course, there were already clubs that actually SUPPORT the TTFF clique because they enjoy little benefits from the system.
Win, lose, or draw on Saturday, people generally, and on SWO, in particular, need to understand the EFA is a microcosm of the TTFF and removing the TTFF clique and transforming the Federation will not happen simply because the public and football players are fed up of them. The TTFF clique is entrenched in so many areas of football and national life. This is the nature of dictatorship. The options are: 1) a long term grassroots struggle by the clubs for democracy, and/or 2) FIFA intervention in the wake of the Federation being declared bankrupt in December.
All of the above said, the progressive clubs will attend tomorrow's meeting to fight for what is right. Win lose or draw in that vote, the PEOPLE of TNT need to demonstrate TANGIBLY that they support the transformation that everybody is demanding but not enough people are FIGHTING for. Maybe it's time for an "Occupy TTFF" Movement?

Thanks for the update and keep up the fight for transformation!!  :beermug:
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #202 on: November 19, 2011, 03:31:12 AM »
EFA to elect new president.
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WAYNE CUNNINGHAM, former manager of Caledonia AIA, sports commentator and businessman, has been tipped to replace Lennox Watson as the president of the Eastern Football Association (EFA) today.

The EFA will be holding a Special Extraordinary Meeting today, from 10 am, at the Sepp Blatter Hall, Dr Joao Havelange Centre of Excellence, Macoya.

In a media release issued by the EFA on Thursday, “on November 8, a special requisition was received from Barataria Ball Players, Creek SCC, FC Santa Rosa, Pinto United FC, St John’s United FC and La Horquetta Sporting Academy requesting an Extraordinary General Meeting to discuss and vote on a resolution proposed therein.”

And the meeting was set, pursuant to Article 10:11 on the EFA’s constitution.

The six aforementioned clubs are seeking to pass the resolution — “given the political impasse in the EFA and the dissatisfaction of the (six) clubs, be it resolved that the clubs of the EFA instruct the EFA secretariat (Neville Ferguson) to organise an election of officers.”

The resolution continued, “be it further resolved that the EFA clubs also instruct the EFA secretariat to organise (the) election on December 4, two weeks after the adoption of this resolution, consistent with Article 10:4 of the EFA constitution, which requires nominations to be submitted to the EFA secretariat at least 14 days before the date of an election.”

A total of 17 clubs are registered with the EFA, but the six clubs who raised the motion are calling for new elections, after Santa Rosa’s president/owner Keith Look Loy failed in his bid to unseat Watson on August 28.

Watson, who has relinquished the post as EFA boss, is now the acting president of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) after last month’s resignation of the long-serving Oliver Camps.
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #203 on: November 19, 2011, 04:19:09 AM »
This Newsday report is partially incorrect. The Extraordinary General Meeting to be held today will decide if an election of officers - to all posts - will be held. If the resolution is successful, then an election will be held. If it is not, then those who claim to have been elected on 28 August - although no vote was held - will remain in office illegally and an election must be held to replace Watson. Then again, the EFA/TTFF clique do whatever they want irrespective of the Constitution so the article may be correct. Whatever happens, the truth is that the road to transformation of the TTFF - or blocking it - rests via the regional associations, and in the hands of the regional clubs. The TTFF clique understand this, which is why they pay no attention to the TT Pro League and the SSFL.
Now are the regional clubs ready to challenge the established order of business? They categorically rejected Marlon Morris in the recent Northern FA election - he lost by 2 votes to 17 - and today's EFA decision will confirm their acceptance of the status quo or their readiness to change it. Meantime, the clubs of the TT Pro League, from which Look Loy has repeatedly and unsuccessfully requested public support for the EFA clubs' struggle, continue their love-hate relationship with the TTFF, wanting to maintain their independence from the clique, but hoping for benefits from the football and governmental power-brokers at the same time.
It will not be easy to transform the TTFF. So many people have a stake in the established order.
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #204 on: November 19, 2011, 10:56:33 AM »
The Watson/Ferguson/Cunningham clique won the vote 10:6 this morning at the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence. The clubs IN FAVOUR of having an election were:

- Barataria Ballplayers Sports Club
- FC Santa Rosa
- La Horquetta Sporting Academy
- Pinto United Sports Club
- Prisons Sports Club
- St. John's United FC.

Those OPPOSED were:

- Boss FC
- Carib FC (who were represented by Colin Murray)
- Joe Public FC
- La Horquetta XF
- Malabar FC
- Maloney FC
- Tunapuna Titans FC
- Upper Santa Cruz FC
- Valtrin FC
- WASA FC

Creek FC, one of the signatories to the petition for an election did not vote. Certain other clubs - Upper Santa Cruz, Tunapuna Titans and Malabar FC - jumped ship in the last days and the clubs have spoken. They have chosen to maintain the staus quo.

The "losers" in this vote have determined to continue the painstaking work of building a national, democratic, movement of clubs, on which to base the transformation of the TTFF and local football culture. WE have nothing to offer by way of material benefit to those who join us - only ideas, a vision and lots of hard work to achieve it. Naive? Idealistic? Maybe, but this is the only way.
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #205 on: November 19, 2011, 11:28:36 AM »
Ah not surprised.....that's our nature.  Once we eating ah food we good to go......screw everything else.  So if the people with the power to change things like it so, who de hell is me??!!  Steups!!  I happy for Cunningham....another stooge in the making I guess.....double steups!!  Bunch ah firetrucking jokers!!!....  :busshead:  :frustrated: :cursing: :banginghead:
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #206 on: November 19, 2011, 11:36:15 AM »
The "politics of the belly" have prevailed yet again but there is room for hope - six clubs stood firm. One year ago it would have been FC Santa Rosa alone. A luta continua...the struggle continues...

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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #207 on: November 19, 2011, 11:43:07 AM »
Well, the people have spoken, let the chips fall where they may. These clubs have propped up Oliver Camps and by extension Jack for decades, and to some degree are responsible for where we find ourselves today. If they lacked the courage to attempt a change....that is on them, they exercised their voting rights.

Folks get ready for the reign of Mr. Lennox Watson. Provided the TTFF and its staff stays solvent, which it will in in some form another, he could concievably be in power for a good 10 years or more.

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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #208 on: November 19, 2011, 11:49:44 AM »
The "politics of the belly" have prevailed yet again but there is room for hope - six clubs stood firm. One year ago it would have been FC Santa Rosa alone. A luta continua...the struggle continues...

on another note. president, thanks for providing this forum with quality information and a look inside the workings of the federation. good luck to mr. look loy in continuing to bring change to the local football community
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Re: Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
« Reply #209 on: November 19, 2011, 12:54:35 PM »
The Watson/Ferguson/Cunningham clique won the vote 10:6 this morning at the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence. The clubs IN FAVOUR of having an election were:

- Barataria Ballplayers Sports Club
- FC Santa Rosa
- La Horquetta Sporting Academy
- Pinto United Sports Club
- Prisons Sports Club
- St. John's United FC.

Those OPPOSED were:

- Boss FC
- Carib FC (who were represented by Colin Murray)
- Joe Public FC
- La Horquetta XF
- Malabar FC
- Maloney FC
- Tunapuna Titans FC
- Upper Santa Cruz FC
- Valtrin FC
- WASA FC

Creek FC, one of the signatories to the petition for an election did not vote. Certain other clubs - Upper Santa Cruz, Tunapuna Titans and Malabar FC - jumped ship in the last days and the clubs have spoken. They have chosen to maintain the staus quo.

The "losers" in this vote have determined to continue the painstaking work of building a national, democratic, movement of clubs, on which to base the transformation of the TTFF and local football culture. WE have nothing to offer by way of material benefit to those who join us - only ideas, a vision and lots of hard work to achieve it. Naive? Idealistic? Maybe, but this is the only way.

How acrimonious was the meeting ... if at all?
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