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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #600 on: September 01, 2011, 01:14:25 PM »
Wha wrong with allyuh?  Isn't it a good thing that the man geh hold?  Yet, people talking about planting evidence this and that, casting aspersions for no reason. Saying, thing sound like a fairy tale with pics etc.  schueps.  When they come with M1 and start blasting that's not a fairly tale though?  A crook get hold be glad nah.  scheups. 
Absolutely yes it is good that he was arrested. But this wasn't the same guy who was openly supporting protests with squatters  a few months back. That was a different Robocop ?

I don't know if it was but to imply that the police plant the evidence?  Come on man.  If this is a legitimate plot then we should be more pissed at that. 
I'm not saying the police planted anything. I'm saying I didn't know he was hiding.

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« Reply #601 on: September 01, 2011, 01:41:07 PM »
Wha wrong with allyuh?  Isn't it a good thing that the man geh hold?  Yet, people talking about planting evidence this and that, casting aspersions for no reason. Saying, thing sound like a fairy tale with pics etc.  schueps.  When they come with M1 and start blasting that's not a fairly tale though?  A crook get hold be glad nah.  scheups. 
Absolutely yes it is good that he was arrested. But this wasn't the same guy who was openly supporting protests with squatters  a few months back. That was a different Robocop ?
Yeah I know you didn't say or imply that.  I'm not referencing you with the police plant comment. 

I don't know if it was but to imply that the police plant the evidence?  Come on man.  If this is a legitimate plot then we should be more pissed at that. 
I'm not saying the police planted anything. I'm saying I didn't know he was hiding.
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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #602 on: September 01, 2011, 01:45:29 PM »
SoE Operational update: 167 new arrests
Thursday 1st September, 2011
 
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Communications, in its latest update on the State of Emergency has confirmed that over the last 24 hours, a total of 167 were arrested.
 
The Ministry said of the total arrests within the latest 24 hour period, "27 were gang related, 1 homicide, 35 drug related, 2 persons were arrested for firearm related charges, 59 persons were arrested for outstanding warrants, 5 were arrested for breach of curfew, 22 were arrested for traffic offences, with 96 tickets issued and 13 persons were arrested for other serious offences.
 
Three others were arrested for other offences. One firearm and fifteen rounds of ammunition were also seized.
 
To date, a total of 1143 persons have been arrested, with 366 arrests related to gangs, 216 related to drug offences, 228 related to outstanding warrants, 181 related to other serious offences, 82 related to breach of curfew, and 30 related to homicide.
 
Additionally, the Coast Guard acting on intelligence seized a vessel with 2 male Trinidadians along with two 2 male Jamaicans and confiscated a quantity of cocaine with a street value of $3.2 million dollars on board the vessel."

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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #603 on: September 01, 2011, 02:41:19 PM »
Yuh know, the alignment of Foreign Affairs with Communications presents all sorts of intrigue.
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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #604 on: September 01, 2011, 05:02:58 PM »
lol 2 PTSC Guards stealing from the company 2 years. Get catch in road block , DVD PLAYER TV etc
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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #605 on: September 01, 2011, 05:21:09 PM »
lol 2 PTSC Guards stealing from the company 2 years. Get catch in road block , DVD PLAYER TV etc

Who going to guard the guards??.....*smh*
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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #606 on: September 01, 2011, 06:05:09 PM »
lol 2 PTSC Guards stealing from the company 2 years. Get catch in road block , DVD PLAYER TV etc

Who going to guard the guards??.....*smh*

PTSC security officers held with stolen items

Police have discovered what they are describing as several stolen items during a roadblock exercise along the Beetham Highway just after 5am on Thursday.
 
Among the items discovered were several sneakers and boots, LCD monitors, and a car DVD player.
 
They were discovered when the police pulled aside a Nissan Almera being driven by a man identified as a security officer with the Public Transport Service Corporation (PTSC). His passenger is also a security officer with the PTSC.

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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #607 on: September 01, 2011, 07:36:44 PM »
lol 2 PTSC Guards stealing from the company 2 years. Get catch in road block , DVD PLAYER TV etc

Who going to guard the guards??.....*smh*

PTSC security officers held with stolen items

Police have discovered what they are describing as several stolen items during a roadblock exercise along the Beetham Highway just after 5am on Thursday.
 
Among the items discovered were several sneakers and boots, LCD monitors, and a car DVD player.
 
They were discovered when the police pulled aside a Nissan Almera being driven by a man identified as a security officer with the Public Transport Service Corporation (PTSC). His passenger is also a security officer with the PTSC.

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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #608 on: September 01, 2011, 07:49:22 PM »
SoE Operational update: 167 new arrests
Thursday 1st September, 2011
 
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Communications, in its latest update on the State of Emergency has confirmed that over the last 24 hours, a total of 167 were arrested.
 
The Ministry said of the total arrests within the latest 24 hour period, "27 were gang related, 1 homicide, 35 drug related, 2 persons were arrested for firearm related charges, 59 persons were arrested for outstanding warrants, 5 were arrested for breach of curfew, 22 were arrested for traffic offences, with 96 tickets issued and 13 persons were arrested for other serious offences.
 
Three others were arrested for other offences. One firearm and fifteen rounds of ammunition were also seized.
 
To date, a total of 1143 persons have been arrested, with 366 arrests related to gangs, 216 related to drug offences, 228 related to outstanding warrants, 181 related to other serious offences, 82 related to breach of curfew, and 30 related to homicide.
 
Additionally, the Coast Guard acting on intelligence seized a vessel with 2 male Trinidadians along with two 2 male Jamaicans and confiscated a quantity of cocaine with a street value of $3.2 million dollars on board the vessel."

http://www.ctntworld.com/LocalArticles.aspx?id=31190&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Our population is what 1.5million or so? over 2 weeks they catch 228 people with outstanding warrants?? Thats frightening. If supposedly all these criminals located in "hotspots" why the hell so much man walking around with warrants?  Is like police in them areas could just reach out and grab somebody and chances are..warrant..hold him!

Is it that because of the SOE men staying home so police just rolling up to dey house and dragging them outta bed?

Is this whole exercise an success or an indictment of the police???
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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #609 on: September 01, 2011, 09:38:05 PM »
Our population is what 1.5million or so? over 2 weeks they catch 228 people with outstanding warrants?? Thats frightening. If supposedly all these criminals located in "hotspots" why the hell so much man walking around with warrants?  Is like police in them areas could just reach out and grab somebody and chances are..warrant..hold him!

Is it that because of the SOE men staying home so police just rolling up to dey house and dragging them outta bed?

Is this whole exercise an success or an indictment of the police???

Just because there's a warrant for a man's arrest that doesn't mean that he's a 'criminal'.

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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #610 on: September 01, 2011, 10:38:53 PM »
lol 2 PTSC Guards stealing from the company 2 years. Get catch in road block , DVD PLAYER TV etc

seee the SOE wukkin dey ketchin all kinda teef

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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #611 on: September 01, 2011, 11:45:17 PM »
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« Reply #612 on: September 02, 2011, 04:22:10 AM »
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Story Created: Sep 1, 2011 at 11:35 PM ECT
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Today the Government is supposed to reveal the reason behind the State of Emergency. Yet, although I am also a creative writer, neither Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan , nor National Security Minister John Sandy has called on me to help them prepare their statements. Maybe V.S. Naipaul got the contract, or maybe they think their stories have created suspension of disbelief among the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago. Nonetheless, I have created my own scenarios to explain the events of the past 12 days, which I am sure are at least as accurate as anything we'll hear in Parliament.

August 16 – Dengue fever strikes Kamla. Attorney General Anand Ramlogan orders an immediate investigation into sub-standard mosquito nets ordered by a PNM contractor, while Justice Minister Herbert Volney starts swatting mosquitoes on sight. Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh announces that Kamla's dengue is of the classic kind War and Peace or Huckleberry Finn or Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.

August 19 – Dengue cases continue to rise, despite the majority of T&T's doctors being UNC. When seven persons are killed in one day, Kamla becomes even more feverish and orders National Security Minister John Sandy to track down the guilty mosquitoes.

August 20 – Members of the Cabinet cabal are summoned to the PM's home, where she announces that she wants to create an emergency plan to fight dengue. "If I can get it, anyone can," she said, according to sources. Dr Gopeesingh informs her that, actually, it's Indians who are most susceptible to the virus while Africans are almost immune. It is at this point that Kamla decides to declare a national State of Emergency. "If Indians die or are too sick to leave their homes, then the Partnership could lose the next election, which would endanger public safety," she argued, citing Section 8, sub-section 2, part (c) of the Constitution, which lists "infectious diseases" as a ground for an SoE. Told by Dr Gopeesingh that she was not infectious, she snapped, "Of course I am!" She then burst into laughter, and Volney, Surujrattan Rambachan, and Gary Griffith immediately started laughing too, with Rambachan getting a .03-second headstart. "See?" said Kamla.

August 21 – Kamla makes her proclamation, using the phrase "limited State of Emergency" three times in her address to the nation. Standing behind her, Anand fidgets throughout the speech, but sources were unable to confirm whether this was because he was aghast at Kamla's error, itching to start arresting young black men, or because his jockey shorts were riding up. Beside him, by contrast, CoP leader Prakash Ramadhar stood as still as Rodin's less-famous statue, The Moron.

August 22 – President George Maxwell Richards proclaims the SoE, having satisfied himself that most of the major Carnival band launches had already taken place.

August 23 – TV6's Dominic Kalipersad interviews the Attorney General and, depending on whether you're a UNC or not, Dominic either reveals Anand to be arrogantly disingenuous or reveals himself to be an enemy of the State.

August 24 – Hoping to capitalise on Kamla's illness, Communications Minister Rambachan orders the PM's residence to be bugged, not realising that such bugs aren't the kind which carry disease.

August 25 – Having finally read the Constitution and realised that seven killings can't legally justify an SoE, AG Ramlogan announces that an "immediate threat and endangerment of public safety" was averted by it. He does not specify what this threat was, citing national security, but expects citizens to believe him because he looks so macho with his shirt collar unbuttoned.

August 26 – Two gang leaders are arrested at the Hyatt Hotel, and found to be harbouring mosquitoes while paying only for double occupancy. Also, 30 men, ranging in ages from 19 to 63, are charged with being in a gang under the Anti-Gang legislation and possession of Viagra without an erection.

August 27 – AG Ramlogan announces that men are being offered $10,000 by gang leaders to take licks. This is ten times more than a dominatrix makes, proving that the SoE has not affected the criminal economy.

August 28 – Anand threatens a 14-year-old girl with jail for pretending to be a PNM-till-Ah-dead granny in a YouTube video. "It is a matter of grave concern," he says. When contacted, however, both Belgrove's and the caretaker at Lapeyrouse Cemetery deny being at all worried.

August 29 – Police and army clean out scrap iron yards, displacing several hundred mosquitoes. Kamla writes a speech boasting that, since the SoE was started, there hasn't been one death from dengue, but doesn't deliver it because she keeps pronouncing "mosquitoes" as "misquotes".

August 30 – Health Minister Fuad Khan confirms that dengue is under control, because mosquitoes aren't venturing out during the curfew.

August 31 – Pastor Winston Cuffie is given the Chaconia Medal (gold), proving that the Government is hoping for a miracle, a large campaign contribution, and bogus PhDs for selected MPs.

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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #613 on: September 02, 2011, 09:43:31 AM »
Is stories like this i fraid to hear. Add to that it would be difficult to confirm if true or just a malicious rumor.


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For the second time since the State of Emergency, Pamela Seeram's home has been raided by police and her male friend beaten by armed officers.

Seeram claims policemen have even eaten her food and stolen fruits.

"I cook crab and dumpling. They take it from the pot and they come outside laughing and eating. They even gone and take plum from the tree," Seeram said.

She said the first time the officers ransacked her Garth Road, Williamsville house was around 6 p.m. last week Friday.

They took $1,500 she had from the sale of a goat.

They also beat her male companion.

Seeram said they struck again on Tuesday evening.

She said without showing her a warrant, six officers armed with guns entered her house and began cursing her and beating her friend.

"They jumped out from the jeep and stormed the house. (Male friend) and I were watching television. They not giving an explanation. They just doing this, " Seeram said.

She said her friend neither drinks nor smokes and is a painter by profession.

Seeram claimed marijuana was planted on him and the officers took him to the Marabella police station.

She was struck on her face and warned, "Shut your mouth, you talking too much. You could get set up too."

Seeram, 35, believes the raids were linked to a relationship she ended with a police officer two years ago.

Seeram said, in the past, the officer broke her jaw and nose and she had made reports of domestic abuse at the police station.

"Since (male friend) start to come here, like somebody don't want him here," Seeram said.

Her 30-year-old friend who is originally from Claxton Bay, has been staying at her home for the past three months.

The mother of one said her 11-year-old daughter was not at home at the time of the incident and since Tuesday they have been staying by a female relative.

Seeram called on the Commissioner of Police to intervene.

"Why I have to be living in fear? Police supposed to protect you, not beat and set you up. I want to feel safe in my own house...I'm afraid they will come and do me something. They told me disrespectful things," Seeram said.

She said she intends to file a complaint of the incident with the Police Complaints Authority.
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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #614 on: September 02, 2011, 10:16:10 AM »
I waiting to hear the outcome of the debate.

Eh really hear much on news....more or less...Sandy said...i quote "Even if One firearm was recovered..and one person arrested.....I still would say the State of Emergency was worth it."

He also said the threat averted woulda "make 1990 look like a Christmas party."


Rowely said it makes no sense coming to the parliament and saying that a major threat was averted and not telling us the nature of this threat etc.


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Absent from Govt benches....Anand Ramlogan. :-\
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« Reply #615 on: September 02, 2011, 10:26:08 AM »
Boasting about a reduction in crime during a State of Emergency is like gloating about losing weight during a famine... :mackdaddy:
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« Reply #616 on: September 02, 2011, 11:01:39 AM »
Wait how could dey escuse Akon Ramlogan from the red house when he suppose to tell what de scene is  ???
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« Reply #617 on: September 02, 2011, 03:24:15 PM »
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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #618 on: September 02, 2011, 03:31:24 PM »
would like to see these numbers:

how many people affected or had fren or family affected negatively by crime
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how many people affected or had fren or family affected negatively by SOE

betting de former win out over de latter.

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« Reply #619 on: September 02, 2011, 08:39:45 PM »
so no updates if they making the curfew time later or extending the SOE past 15days?
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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #620 on: September 02, 2011, 08:50:17 PM »
would like to see these numbers:

how many people affected or had fren or family affected negatively by crime
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how many people affected or had fren or family affected negatively by SOE

betting de former win out over de latter.

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Re: Limited State of Emergency....
« Reply #621 on: September 02, 2011, 08:57:51 PM »
Our population is what 1.5million or so? over 2 weeks they catch 228 people with outstanding warrants?? Thats frightening. If supposedly all these criminals located in "hotspots" why the hell so much man walking around with warrants?  Is like police in them areas could just reach out and grab somebody and chances are..warrant..hold him!

Is it that because of the SOE men staying home so police just rolling up to dey house and dragging them outta bed?

Is this whole exercise an success or an indictment of the police???

Just because there's a warrant for a man's arrest that doesn't mean that he's a 'criminal'.

Not really trying to say that. Wondering how they couldn't catch all these people with outstanding warrants before, whatever these warrants could be for. The SOE allowing them to do that? Or police just doing their jobs for once? I'm also assuming that these people are being caught in the "hotspots".

I wonder what happened on a daily basis in Trinidad pre SOE regarding police arrests. How many etc.. Would be interesting to compare to during the SOE. These figures they calling and saying the SOE is a success are meaningless without something to compare to.
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« Reply #622 on: September 03, 2011, 11:28:28 AM »
Like this thread died?  What happen in Parliament with the extension, meeting, secret info etc.
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« Reply #623 on: September 03, 2011, 11:41:08 AM »
Like this thread died?  What happen in Parliament with the extension, meeting, secret info etc.

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« Reply #624 on: September 03, 2011, 05:01:40 PM »
3 more months of SOE
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« Reply #625 on: September 03, 2011, 05:43:27 PM »
3 more months of SOE

dey say anything about the curfew hours??....that 9 pm thing eh cutting it at all.....for a government that was begging the Unions to not shut down the country partly for economic reasons, dem taking liberty with these curfew hours.  Yes, its the people who earn their living after hours that are suffering but they are being asked to suffer for another 3 months with this 9 pm deadline....

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« Reply #626 on: September 03, 2011, 05:50:04 PM »
According to Granny Quilla, one mosquito caused all this shit.....

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« Reply #627 on: September 03, 2011, 05:55:44 PM »
3 more months of SOE

dey say anything about the curfew hours??....that 9 pm thing eh cutting it at all

Still debating it. The 3 months thing still in debate also , but seeing the government don't need the opposition to vote on it , it good as done. Sandy say he want 3 more months so is 3 more Months in we ras
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« Reply #628 on: September 03, 2011, 07:13:58 PM »
This crime fighting plan is absolutely amazing. Why didn't other countries and government think about this. Man we Trinis are so forward thinking. :applause:
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« Reply #629 on: September 03, 2011, 07:15:40 PM »
Like this thread died?  What happen in Parliament with the extension, meeting, secret info etc.

They must b gone Balls of Fire

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