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Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« on: January 17, 2012, 09:59:50 AM »
What do you think about this action?

Source: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout



To: English Wikipedia Readers and Community
From: Sue Gardner, Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director
Date: January 16, 2012

Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/English_Wikipedia_to_go_dark). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United States — the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate — that, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia.

This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public protest of this nature, and it’s a decision that wasn’t lightly made. Here’s how it’s been described by the three Wikipedia administrators who formally facilitated the community’s discussion. From the public statement, signed by User:NuclearWarfare, User:Risker and User:Billinghurst:

        It is the opinion of the English Wikipedia community that both of these bills, if passed, would be devastating to the free and open web.

        Over the course of the past 72 hours, over 1800 Wikipedians have joined together to discuss proposed actions that the community might wish to take against SOPA and PIPA. This is by far the largest level of participation in a community discussion ever seen on Wikipedia, which illustrates the level of concern that Wikipedians feel about this proposed legislation. The overwhelming majority of participants support community action to encourage greater public action in response to these two bills. Of the proposals considered by Wikipedians, those that would result in a “blackout” of the English Wikipedia, in concert with similar blackouts on other websites opposed to SOPA and PIPA, received the strongest support.

        On careful review of this discussion, the closing administrators note the broad-based support for action from Wikipedians around the world, not just from within the United States. The primary objection to a global blackout came from those who preferred that the blackout be limited to readers from the United States, with the rest of the world seeing a simple banner notice instead. We also noted that roughly 55% of those supporting a blackout preferred that it be a global one, with many pointing to concerns about similar legislation in other nations.

In making this decision, Wikipedians will be criticized for seeming to abandon neutrality to take a political position. That’s a real, legitimate issue. We want people to trust Wikipedia, not worry that it is trying to propagandize them.

But although Wikipedia’s articles are neutral, its existence is not. As Wikimedia Foundation board member Kat Walsh wrote on one of our mailing lists recently,

        We depend on a legal infrastructure that makes it possible for us to operate. And we depend on a legal infrastructure that also allows other sites to host user-contributed material, both information and expression. For the most part, Wikimedia projects are organizing and summarizing and collecting the world’s knowledge. We’re putting it in context, and showing people how to make to sense of it.

        But that knowledge has to be published somewhere for anyone to find and use it. Where it can be censored without due process, it hurts the speaker, the public, and Wikimedia. Where you can only speak if you have sufficient resources to fight legal challenges, or if your views are pre-approved by someone who does, the same narrow set of ideas already popular will continue to be all anyone has meaningful access to.

The decision to shut down the English Wikipedia wasn’t made by me; it was made by editors, through a consensus decision-making process. But I support it.

Like Kat and the rest of the Wikimedia Foundation Board, I have increasingly begun to think of Wikipedia’s public voice, and the goodwill people have for Wikipedia, as a resource that wants to be used for the benefit of the public. Readers trust Wikipedia because they know that despite its faults, Wikipedia’s heart is in the right place. It’s not aiming to monetize their eyeballs or make them believe some particular thing, or sell them a product. Wikipedia has no hidden agenda: it just wants to be helpful.

That’s less true of other sites. Most are commercially motivated: their purpose is to make money. That doesn’t mean they don’t have a desire to make the world a better place — many do! — but it does mean that their positions and actions need to be understood in the context of conflicting interests.

My hope is that when Wikipedia shuts down on January 18, people will understand that we’re doing it for our readers. We support everyone’s right to freedom of thought and freedom of expression. We think everyone should have access to educational material on a wide range of subjects, even if they can’t pay for it. We believe in a free and open Internet where information can be shared without impediment. We believe that new proposed laws like SOPA and PIPA, and other similar laws under discussion inside and outside the United States — don’t advance the interests of the general public. You can read a very good list of reasons to oppose SOPA and PIPA here, from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/01/how-pipa-and-sopa-violate-white-house-principles-supporting-free-speech


Why is this a global action, rather than US-only? And why now, if some American legislators appear to be in tactical retreat on SOPA?

The reality is that we don’t think SOPA is going away, and PIPA is still quite active. Moreover, SOPA and PIPA are just indicators of a much broader problem. All around the world, we're seeing the development of legislation intended to fight online piracy, and regulate the Internet in other ways, that hurt online freedoms. Our concern extends beyond SOPA and PIPA: they are just part of the problem. We want the Internet to remain free and open, everywhere, for everyone.

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On January 18, we hope you’ll agree with us, and will do what you can to make your own voice heard.

Sue Gardner,
Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 05:04:12 AM »
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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 07:18:17 AM »
This is another instance where Congress writes bills, passes it and because they lack foresight (since they live in a parallel universe) of the unintended consequences, will go on to haunt and hurt the everyday individual. This is why I oppose these bills! Plus if Vint Cerf opposes it, then who am I to dispute it?
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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 09:39:53 AM »
working fine for me once yuh hit Esc before it loads
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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 03:18:23 PM »
This is another instance where Congress writes bills, passes it and because they lack foresight (since they live in a parallel universe) of the unintended consequences, will go on to haunt and hurt the everyday individual. This is why I oppose these bills! Plus if Vint Cerf opposes it, then who am I to dispute it?

Congress did not write them bills, the MPAA and RIAA wrote them then handed themoff to their lackies in Congress. It have men on that committee who admit they befuddled by technology but "writing" laws to regulate it.

This is nothing than dinosaurs clinging stubbornly to outdated business models. If yuh cant adapt try legislating them out of existance. Now i come along way sine my Napster days i n college, and i pay for my music and shows online but i doh agree with giving these people the power to shut people off the internet without due process. 

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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 03:32:28 PM »
This is another instance where Congress writes bills, passes it and because they lack foresight (since they live in a parallel universe) of the unintended consequences, will go on to haunt and hurt the everyday individual. This is why I oppose these bills! Plus if Vint Cerf opposes it, then who am I to dispute it?

Congress did not write them bills, the MPAA and RIAA wrote them then handed themoff to their lackies in Congress. It have men on that committee who admit they befuddled by technology but "writing" laws to regulate it.

This is nothing than dinosaurs clinging stubbornly to outdated business models. If yuh cant adapt try legislating them out of existance. Now i come along way sine my Napster days i n college, and i pay for my music and shows online but i doh agree with giving these people the power to shut people off the internet without due process. 

Yeah I know, like Al franken and his Net Neutrality bill...

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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 08:04:35 PM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/uvXo4sGB7zM&amp;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/uvXo4sGB7zM&amp;feature=player_embedded</a>

Under all d kicks, this looking like some serious shit
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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 08:07:08 PM »
so true grimm01. de recording industry trying to hang on but in dis info age, dey have to change. dat lobby culture eh change a lick since obuma darken de white house. “business as usual” is de campaign slogan.

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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 01:19:17 AM »
online pirating is stealing, whether people acknowledge that or not.

parents need to teach their children that stealing music and movies is also a crime, there is no difference with stealing a movie or music than walking into a store and stealing food, clothes or electronics.

i support the labels and production companies.... google should be banning torrents and other sites that have destroyed the music and film industry, how would people like if they created something and millions stole the idea.

its ok for music and film but not ok for other products? that's hypocrisy....

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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 08:45:09 AM »

Yeah I know, like Al franken and his Net Neutrality bill...

You have real gall... no mention of allyuh supposed next budding superstar, Marco Rubio?

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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 09:47:28 PM »

Yeah I know, like Al franken and his Net Neutrality bill...

You have real gall... no mention of allyuh supposed next budding superstar, Marco Rubio?

Rubio initially supported it, but as of today he's not!  Earlier this last year at a network architects meeting in DC, al franken was a key note speaker. Listening to him defend net neutrality to a group of network guys was hilarious. Al franken didn't even know that this was a redraft of the 1996 Telecommunications act, yet he was pushing Net Neutrality.  He is just another example of a congress man pushing a bill, in which he is unaware of the unintended consequences and could not provide examples of prevention of loopholes for unethical exploits.  :beermug:
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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2012, 01:12:35 PM »
some people are acting as if net neutrality has been full proof and that censorship in certain areas are not needed.

what a farce, I would love to hear the unintended consequences and unethical exploits that would take place?

better yet, i would love to hear how you intend to stop online piracy of movies and music without these measures being taken?

its not like any of these posters are actually in the entertainment business to begin with, far less putting their lives on the line as a stunt man is in the movies or a band spending money and time to create an album. When some speak of being unaware, they are in fact speaking about themselves and their limited knowledge of the music and film industry.

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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2012, 03:52:48 PM »
Rubio initially supported it, but as of today he's not!  Earlier this last year at a network architects meeting in DC, al franken was a key note speaker. Listening to him defend net neutrality to a group of network guys was hilarious. Al franken didn't even know that this was a redraft of the 1996 Telecommunications act, yet he was pushing Net Neutrality.  He is just another example of a congress man pushing a bill, in which he is unaware of the unintended consequences and could not provide examples of prevention of loopholes for unethical exploits.  :beermug:

I really ent bothering mihself with the rest beyond the bolded... Rubio did not "initially supported it", the man co-sponsored the bill.  How it became Franken's bill?  Lol, dat is why I stop taking allyuh fellas on this forum seriously.

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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2012, 04:28:51 PM »
Rubio initially supported it, but as of today he's not!  Earlier this last year at a network architects meeting in DC, al franken was a key note speaker. Listening to him defend net neutrality to a group of network guys was hilarious. Al franken didn't even know that this was a redraft of the 1996 Telecommunications act, yet he was pushing Net Neutrality.  He is just another example of a congress man pushing a bill, in which he is unaware of the unintended consequences and could not provide examples of prevention of loopholes for unethical exploits.  :beermug:

I really ent bothering mihself with the rest beyond the bolded... Rubio did not "initially supported it", the man co-sponsored the bill.  How it became Franken's bill?  Lol, dat is why I stop taking allyuh fellas on this forum seriously.

Bakes, I was drawing reference to bills that have unintended consequences (i.e. like the net neutrality bill, I believe that this bill will also have unintended consequences). I know we on different sides of the fence when it comes to these things, and I stand corrected. Humble thanks for the correction, the morning Harry Reid was supposed to motion it to the floor, Rubio sent out an email, saying he was pulling his support for it. That's the email I got and i confess I only read the headline until now, I was going on that, foolish move on my behalf. I follow the House more than the senate, so I took post in de wrong direction... humbled  :beermug:

You are right because I should have read the rest of the email.

Rubio- (also appeared in the Miami Herald)

"In recent weeks, we’ve heard from many Floridians about the anti-Internet piracy bills making their way through Congress. On the Senate side, I have been a co-sponsor of the PROTECT IP Act because I believe it’s important to protect American ingenuity, ideas and jobs from being stolen through Internet piracy, much of it occurring overseas through rogue websites in China. As a senator from Florida, a state with a large presence of artists, creators and businesses connected to the creation of intellectual property, I have a strong interest in stopping online piracy that costs Florida jobs. ...


Just hope yuh Giants could hold out frisco and we go duke it out in the Superbowl...  :duel:

(word is that it has been raining in SF and it go be nice to see how all yuh run de ball)
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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2012, 06:40:32 PM »
No scenes... I doh mind the political back and forth, just tired of the intellectual dishonesty, which by any impartial count, is skewed heavily in favor of the right.  I saw your initial comment in the same light.  To paraphrase a frequent criticism of Kerry (I believe it was), Rubio was for the bill before he was against it.

As for the game... I concerned about the weather too, mud would seem to favor the Niners, but our receivers say otherwise.  All things being even I think we'd win, but mud is the great equalizer for the Niners.  Still expect us to leave Frisco with nothing but a 'W'.

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Re: Wikipedia to black-out English-Language for 24 hours
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2012, 06:43:37 AM »
I think I read something somewhere yesterday that they put the bill on hold for now after the blackout by some websites and google getting millionsterdn a petition.   I eh sure but I think that's what I read somewhere....on fb maybe..... :-\
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

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