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Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« on: October 18, 2007, 12:06:51 PM »
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Thursday, October 18 2007

“TOWARDS a National Philosophy for Football in Trinidad and Tobago” is the theme of an all-day symposium at the VIP Lounge, Hasely Crawford Stadium on Sunday.

Making presentations at the symposium to be hosted by the TT Pro League will be the league’s chairman Larry Romany, Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation technical director Lincoln Phillips Caledonia AIA chairman Brian Lewis and another TTFF representative.

Romany’s presentation will be “The Role of football in Trinidad and Tobago; What are the sporting, social and technical objectives.”

Phillips’ topic will be “Technical aspects of the game. Defining a Style of Play for Trinidad and Tobago Football.”

Brian Lewis will present his paper on “Social Aspect: What responsiblities does society have toward football?”

Each presentation will occupy 20 minutes.

According to TT Pro League chief executive Dexter Skeene, the aim of the symposium is to establish a philosophy for football “that we can identify as best suited to our mental, social, psychological, cultural and physical attributes, which we hope would assist in taking our game forward as a nation.”

Following the four presentations, the evening session will be in the form of table discussions after which, each table will nominate a representative to present their suggestions.

The symposium is timed to begin from 9 am and go on until 4 pm.

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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2007, 12:49:47 PM »
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=31444.0 ... maybe we can discuss it now that our "elites" are talking ablout it because it truly does not exist.

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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2007, 04:28:07 PM »
Very happy to see this as the theme for the organizers ofthe symposium. Is deeper than about jess who playing and what formation. Niceness.
Good work to link up the data already exchanged. Good post E-man
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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2007, 07:08:09 PM »
Having looked at both threads, it appears that some are marrying the terms 'national philosophy' and 'systems/formations/tactics' or at least using them interchangeably. These are distinct propositions.


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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2007, 09:31:03 PM »
If there is no passion then there will no philosophy.

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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2007, 01:22:40 AM »

 They might state a philosophy and even to some extent engage it but this style of play thing could never happen , not on a nationwide every club and team way.

 Style of play should be similar for all national teams so that progression from youth national teams to senior national would be painless and that is Wim and his team of coachs responsibilty.
So I don't understand what all this ole talk is about when theoretically it in place.
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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2007, 01:21:16 PM »
This is all pointless until we have an administration working for the good of T&T football and not their own interests.

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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2007, 11:16:55 AM »

Football need some more women involved.  Way too much ego right now.

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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2007, 10:24:22 PM »
dcs, is that your COP recipe as well?

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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2007, 11:45:23 PM »
Skeene: National philosophy soon
By: Lasana Liburd (Express)


Monday, October 22nd 2007

The Trinidad and Tobago Pro League yesterday took the first step towards the establishment of a national philosophy for local football with a six and a half hour long seminar at the VIP Lounge of the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

Dexter Skeene, Pro League CEO, expressed his satisfaction with the quality of ideas and level of interaction at the symposium and vowed to work on its implementation.

Skeene heads a five member committee who volunteered to document the ideas generated yesterday into a "working paper". The committee also comprises past and present football stakeholders Keith Look Loy, Osmond Downer, Lincoln "Tiger" Phillips, Arthur Hutton and Delano Sanchez.

"It is just the start and it can only be positive for our football," said Skeene. "A lot of suggestions came forward as to how we should proceed with a national philosophy for football in Trinidad and Tobago.

"We plan to implement it within the Pro League because we operate at all levels from youth to senior levels."

The symposium stressed the value of attitude, mental and physical preparation and youth development in creating a more successful future for the local game.

Phillips, who is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) technical director and a former national standout, Vibe CT 105 W Connection owner David J Williams, Neal & Massy Caledonia AIA director Brian Lewis and 2007 Under-17 World Cup coach Anton Corneal all gave presentations that ranged from the style of play on the field to the importance of sound lifestyle choices and administrative support and the concept of winning.

There were also several contributions from the floor including national head coach and former Holland World Cup player, Wim Rijsbergen, who bemoaned the diet and fitness level of his local squad. He revealed that as few as five players bothered to have breakfast on the country's last overseas assignment to El Salvador, which ended in a goalless draw.

"Not one of (the national squad who faced El Salvador) was ready physically for international football," said Rijsbergen.

More than one speaker made mention of the absence of the T&TFF bigwigs yesterday. A T&TFF representative was listed, in the initial programme, to present on "the roles and functions of the different organisations affiliated with football in Trinidad and Tobago".

However, Skeene, who said T&TFF president Oliver Camps endorsed the symposium but was unable to attend, insisted that their presence was not vital at this stage.

"The technical director (Phillips), head coach (Rijsbergen) and youth development officer (Corneal) were there and were able to give their views," said Skeene, "and I think they were the most important people at this stage.

"The final report will be sent to the T&TFF."
 

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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2007, 05:30:49 PM »
Fellas this thread is too important to be left without adding a li'l more detail.

TT Proleague eh realize what a stroke of fabulous work dey do to give us this video (No spin), straight from de horse's mouth on what transpired at de symposium. When this thread first came out, this video was not available and some were not that enthusiastic about this topic. Lincoln, W-Connection's Williams, Caledonia's Brian Lewis and Anton Corneal are featured.

The articles in the papers did not quite capture the gist of their comments well enough IMHO. Yuh could see that there is some real passion out there...and the least we could do is use convenient technology to listen before we start steupssin'.

So kick back, geh yuh drink ready, and enjoy, if yuh could handle dis kinda tallk:

Lincoln  http://www.ttproleague.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=109

David John Williams of W-Connection:
http://www.ttproleague.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1559&Itemid=109

Anton Corneal:
http://www.ttproleague.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1561&Itemid=109

Brian Lewis (he struggled a bit to make his point at first but say wha'):
http://www.ttproleague.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1560&Itemid=109
« Last Edit: October 28, 2007, 05:38:04 PM by dreamer »
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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2007, 07:38:38 PM »
Fellas this thread is too important to be left without adding a li'l more detail.

TT Proleague eh realize what a stroke of fabulous work dey do to give us this video (No spin), straight from de horse's mouth on what transpired at de symposium. When this thread first came out, this video was not available and some were not that enthusiastic about this topic. Lincoln, W-Connection's Williams, Caledonia's Brian Lewis and Anton Corneal are featured.

The articles in the papers did not quite capture the gist of their comments well enough IMHO. Yuh could see that there is some real passion out there...and the least we could do is use convenient technology to listen before we start steupssin'.

So kick back, geh yuh drink ready, and enjoy, if yuh could handle dis kinda tallk:

Lincoln  http://www.ttproleague.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=109

David John Williams of W-Connection:
http://www.ttproleague.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1559&Itemid=109

Anton Corneal:
http://www.ttproleague.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1561&Itemid=109

Brian Lewis (he struggled a bit to make his point at first but say wha'):
http://www.ttproleague.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1560&Itemid=109
         :applause: :applause: :applause:Thanks Dreamer,you know something,sometimes the reports we get from these Symposiums don't really give a true picture of what went on or was said because most of the time some reporter or person just takes the negative bits and pieces and blow them out of proportion,so we don't get the real storey.After listening to these guys i feel if they get the support and respect that they should our Football will be in good hands,all of them made very good presentations and all was in relation too our Football at home,being away from home and T&T Football for so long i knew i would have some catching up to do,well this did help a bit,the past was merged with the present and it did show some of the things we did in the past can  be applied today and still be successful,one word kept coming up in Anton's presentation and it was "commitment"i think that's what missing today.I'm going to keep this for a while,i want to listen to it a couple times again.

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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2007, 06:54:07 AM »
Very passionate and presented professionally. It would have been interesting to hear some ideas being presented, more so that simply identification of problems. Lincoln's closing remarks would have been a fantastic discussion. Anton's idea of young players being introduced into the league, would have been interesting. It would have raised questions How can it be done? Is their a desire to achieve this?
At least people talking and that is a big step.
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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2007, 08:52:31 AM »
Very passionate and presented professionally. It would have been interesting to hear some ideas being presented, more so that simply identification of problems. Lincoln's closing remarks would have been a fantastic discussion. Anton's idea of young players being introduced into the league, would have been interesting. It would have raised questions How can it be done? Is their a desire to achieve this?
At least people talking and that is a big step.
         Observer you are right but i thought they had some discussions in groups to identify problems/solutions,people to record and make report of findings,the thing i'm worried about is when or how are they going to act on these findings,to make sure this don't fall on deaf ears we must have follow ups.

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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2007, 09:42:00 AM »
Good to see TT Proleague put their website back on.

Wish that the other speakers like Look Loy and Skeene could be seen. Skeene is coming along and gettin quite progressive with heself these days. Ah feel we should acknowledge that.

Somehow I get the feeling that TT Proleague is saying dat TTFF cyah do nothin' and dey will run tings now and be the initiator of action plans.

Jackula, Scamps, Rodent are irrelevant and won't even attend. People are noticing.
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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2007, 10:18:03 AM »
Dreamer, Thank you very much for those links.

some people have to listen to Lincoln
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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2011, 09:07:00 PM »
Ah wonder what became of this....  :thinking:

Fast forward four years.
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Re: Symposium: Towards a National Philosophy for Football in T&T
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2011, 09:18:41 PM »
Ah wonder what became of this....  :thinking:

Fast forward four years.

Let me find a good excuse! No money to implement?!  :-[

Or maybe no brains/will to implement? Or just maybe they were bull$hitting we?!  :-\
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