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« on: April 02, 2012, 12:47:58 PM »
The Ministry of Sport is developing attempiting to overhaul and improve the structure, development and delivery of football in Trinidad and Tobago. As part of the process they are seeking feedback from the public on how to move forward. They have published a draft paper compiling data from MoS researchers and reccomendations from coaches, former players, and everyday fans, including some of our very own forum members such as Asylumseeker, Tallman, Palos, Patriot, Just Cool, Weary and BrownSugar.

I'm posting some excerpts from the document here so that forum members can be informed of what the MoS is planning for our football and provide some feedback if you so choose.

The process of reforming the game in Trinidad and tobago will be a long, tough process. And not everything the MoS does we will agree with. But as it stands, the Ministry will be exerting great influence over the TTFF over the next few years, and this is a good opportunity for football fans to make themselves heard loud and clear, from everything from MoS funding of the TTFF to where football academies should be developed in the nation.

Write your views in this post or PM me. you have until 10pm on Tuesday April 3rd. Your information will be recorded and sent off (anonymously) to the MoS. In a few months time they will be using this information to develop a set of policies that will have a big impact on the game in our country, good or bad.

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2012, 12:49:20 PM »
RECOMMENDATIONS
Presented hereunder in condensed form are the recommendations put forward by members of the wider community including those who contributed to the “Taking the Lead in Football Development” initiative developed by the Ministry. These suggestions were taken into account when developing this position paper.


1. The national Senior Team should have a stable coach: Trinidad and Tobago should avoid hiring coaches at the last minute, in hope of a successful qualification. Instead, a long-term approach should be taken; hiring a coach who can assist in the sustainable development of National football.

2. Introduction of a National Development Programme.

a. National Developmental plan from U13 to u23
b. Succession planning; Progression of teams in intervals. I.e. U13, u15, u17, u20, u23
c. Every two years a new u13 team should be formed within the programme
d. Continual addition of players, based on performance within SSFL
e. Continual omission of players based on performance within national programme
f. Database of Players (and coaches); Develop a system for monitoring players
g. Start preparation at a younger age. Allow teams to remain together and develop over time.
h. Improve scouting efforts locally and internationally
i. Enhance the system of Nutrition within national programmes
j. Increased use of sports science and technology to enhance performance
k. If the programme is maintained and run well, there will be greater opportunities


3. Establishment of National Football Academies
a. Established in various parts of T&T; enabling participation from all counties within T&T
b. This helps with scouting, as each academy would be responsible for scouting from within its designated county
c. County Academies can play against each other; creating a sense of competition amongst zones, creating opportunities for nationwide marketing and enabling the best of all counties to be selected for national games.

4. Restructuring of the TT Pro-League:
a. Increase stakeholders and overall participation
b. Pro teams should represent a particular community (or Regional Corporation)
c. Greater emphasis on the youth League; development to facilitate more skilled, more marketable professionals.
d. Introduce a second and third division, with promotion and regulation
e. Community teams can become part of Pro-League clubs, creating a greater sense participation and support within the community
f. A stronger disciplinary system for pro players

5. Development of Playing surfaces around Trinidad and Tobago.
a. This will result in greater overall participation within communities
b. Pro-Teams can finally have a home base.
c. These grounds can be maintained by the Regional Corporation and allocated to pro teams.
d. Making these grounds central to the community; teams will have a steady source of new recruits, new fans and new community investors and partners.

6. Greater Coach Education
a. Make coaching courses more available to coaches
b. Introduce a more diverse range of courses; Strength and Conditioning, Nutrition, Football Administration, Football


Management and Advanced Coaching
7. Full Audit of The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation and all its executives and key decision makers

8. The Ministry of Sport needs to take a hands-on approach with football (and sport) within T&T; developing football initiatives (marketing and developmental), overseeing the National football body, and demanding more accountability and transparency.

a. Aid in Pro-League clubs acquiring small community grounds; which can be developed to create a sustainable future     for the clubs.
b. Facilitate greater incentives to the business community for sponsorship of sport.
c. Facilitate incentives for individuals to donate to sport
d. Work closer with private companies to establish systems for athletic grants

9. Greater emphasis on Marketing of Sport (Football)
a. Greater communication on football activities
b. Greater use of athletes in advertisements. Profiling of players on social media, magazines and calendars
c. Television Football Programmes (recap shows, talent search shows, expert interviews, etc.)

10. Create and All girls primary school league. Allow for greater participation in women’s football

11. Place more focus on Primary School’s Football
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2012, 12:49:35 PM »
MEDIUM TERM TACTICS
1. Formation of a Ministry of Sports Football Development Committee

This committee, which will report to the Permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Sport, should comprise representatives of the following stakeholders:
Ministry of Sport, Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation, Trinidad and Tobago Pro-League, Football Players Association of Trinidad and Tobago (FPATT), Coaches Association, Secondary Schools Football League, Primary Schools Football League, Referees Association

The remit of this committee should include the following key areas:

I. Budget Allocation :
A. Funding for TT-Pro League
o Funding for TT-Pro League youth team development (ensuring continuity of quality footballers)
o Funding for TT-Pro-League operations and player salaries
B. Funding for National Football Programmes
o Funding for youth system development programmes:
Ensuring adequate player scouting and screening (Local and internationally).
Player Database Management
Quality Training Camps
Nutrition, strength and conditioning programmes
Access to Sport Therapy and Psychology
International Exposure


C. Funding for SSFL, Primary school’s league, Coaches Association, Women’s Leagues, FPATT and Referees association

Ensuring there is constant development at youth levels, enhancing the pool of players and ensuring continuous transition from youth system to professionalism
Ensuring access to international coaching certification
Ensuring adequate referee certification
Ensuring access to adequate Financial Management workshops for players
Access to adequate sports therapy and sports psychology services for players


II. Demanding accountability and transparency from governing bodies as it pertains to allocated funds
o Conducting Financial Audits
o Approving Budgetary plans


III. Overseeing overall football schedules and recording of game statistics, taking into consideration all stakeholders.

o Provision of a clear pathway from primary school, to secondary school, to professional and national football
o Availability of skilled referees for all leagues and competitions
o Presence of staff to record game statistics is as important as the presence of referees and assisting officials
o Availability of well-maintained facilities


IV. Addressing social responsibility of football within Trinidad and Tobago
Grass roots community programmes
Sports against crime programmes


V. Marketing of T&T Football
Re-branding of Trinidad and Tobago Football
Disseminating adequate information to the public via multiple medium
Developing Television football programmes
Player Profiling (increased use of social media to connect with fans)
Encouraging private sector marketing through sport
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2012, 12:50:22 PM »
LONG-TERM TACTICS
1. Developing and Maintaining an enhanced national player pool
Ensuring a constant supply of national footballers
o Player Database Management
Registering of players into the national pool
Constant monitoring and evaluation of players’ development from u13-u23
Keeping abreast of development of players playing abroad

2. Develop National Youth Football Academies
Four Academies within Trinidad one in Tobago (see appendix)
Players specially selected to join the national academies
o Selection based on players’ residence within particular catchment areas
o Selected from SSFL and Primary school League
o Players must be at least aged 9
o Training at least three times, and one game per week
o Players given practical homework such as training drills they can practice at home
o Parents and players provided with information on nutrition and mental preparation
o Training at least three times per week, and one game per week (against academies at u10, u12, u14, u16)
o At age 16, the programme directors will decide which players to keep for competitive selection within the National Development Programme(U17, U20, U23, Senior)

National Development Programme
o Players selected based on recommendations from youth national academies (about 5-7 players per academy, or about 35 players total)
o Players can also be included from TT Pro-league youth system.
o National Developmental plan from U17 to senior team
o Succession planning; Progression of teams in intervals. I.e. U17, u20, u23, Senior team
o Players selected for u17 competition, should be kept together within their class, in hope of development for future senior teams.

Specialty Training for athletes within National Development Programme
o Intense Training camps; about ten per year, each lasting about 10 days each
o Advanced Nutrition and Conditioning programmes
o Utilize advanced sports psychology and sports science technology to enhance performance

3. Alignment of Professional Clubs to selected catchment areas (see appendix)
Re-locate professional clubs to regional facilities; representative of one specific regional corporation (or municipalities)

o Make Professional Clubs and facilities central to a communities’ health, wellness and entertainment

Professional clubs should be restricted in their youth player selection.
o Teams should be allowed to recruit youth players (aged 16-19) only within their designated area.
o These selected players will form part of their youth and reserve teams.
o This will allow for a continuous pool of player available for selection at the senior team level.
Transfers and trades are allowed at the senior level; teams can legitimately purchase and loan players regardless of their area of residence.

o This selection criterion, based on area of residence (catchment areas) will create opportunities for a loyal fan base.

Create opportunities for Professional clubs to become financially sustainable
o Facilities should be developed to house fitness and conference centres. These can generate income for the clubs
o Facilities should be enclosed; gate receipts are necessary

Facilities can still be managed by the Regional Corporations. Thus maintaining opportunities for employment.

4. Marketing of T&T Football
Re-branding of Trinidad and Tobago Football
Disseminating adequate information to the public via multiple medium
Developing Television football programmes
Player Profiling (increased use of social media to connect with fans)
Encouraging private sector funding/partnership of marketing through sport

5. Develop Careers in sport
Working with UWI/UTT providing access to Graduate and Post Graduate academic courses (developing careers in sport):
I. Sports Psychology
II. Sports Science
III. Sports Nutrition
IV. Physiotherapy
V. Sports Management/marketing

Provide access to Coaching licenses and Referee certification

6. Successful qualification for FIFA Men’s World Cup 2022 (Qatar)

7. Successful qualification for FIFA women’s world cup 2023 (Canada)

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2012, 12:51:15 PM »
CONCLUSION
Coming out of the National consultation and all recommendations received, it has been deduced that the immediate focus be placed on establishing a Football technical committee. This committee, governed by the Ministry of Sport, will allocate the remainder of monies to those national teams currently active in competition, and those with impending qualifications; Men’s U23, Girls and Boys U17. This committee will make decisions on marketing initiatives for football, on addressing social responsibility, and demanding accountability and transparency.
Taking the example set by our neighbours in Mexico (see appendix); there should be a greater emphasis on the development and sustainability of our Pro teams. These teams should be representative of some limited area (Regional Corporations, Boroughs, or Counties); this helps breed competition amongst clubs (and areas), and provides for the development of a fan base, a consistent player pool, and involvement from community businesses and all other stakeholders.
Emphasis needs to be placed on developing the pro-league youth system, especially at the U17 and U20 levels. If we can make the Pro-clubs and their dedicated facilities the central pillars of these communities, we can guarantee continued success at this level, creating a larger more talented pool of athletes for national selection.

The Trinidad and Tobago National Development Programme would need to be well funded, but also very accountable to all stakeholders. The sustained creation of teams at the U13 level, the maintenance and development of these teams all the way to U23 and Senior levels, provides for immense success at all national team levels. A system of nationwide scouting has to be implemented to ensure that we are selecting the best players. These players have to be registered and a database must be kept; we need to constantly track players’ movement and growth. The use of sports science (and sports performance) technology should be given top priority; allowing for greater physical (and mental) competitiveness of our national outfits Intertwined with the youth development of footballers, should be the development of suitable careers in sports: Sports doctors, lawyers, psychologist, physiotherapist, coaches and managers. There needs to be greater access to international certification for local coaches and managers; coaches should be at an international education level. Our referees should also be certified up to international levels.
The Ministry of Sport needs to take a hands-on approach to changing football; enhancing its youth programmes and providing a sustainable source of developed athletes, marketing the sport to the nation and fostering opportunities for football to become financially viable. The ministry needs to demand accountability and transparency of all financial matters; re-gaining the trust of athletes and the national community. It is the view of this committee, that given the timely implementation of some major structural changes, T&T football will once again become a force to be reckoned with amongst the CONCAF region. We will see success in the near future at our youth levels (men’s and women’s), and in due course that success will translate into triumphs at the senior levels.

APPENDIX 2: Regional Examples of Success
We can look to our Regional Neighbours, Mexico and their success during 2011. They achieved within the space of a few months, ultimate success at the Fifa U17 World Cup (Boy’s) and third place at the Fifa U20 World Cup. Mexico was also triumphant at the 2006 Fifa U17 World Cup.
According to Jose Enrique Varca, Mexico’s Youth system programme coordinator, their success was not a sudden thing, and was as a result of the emphasis placed on administration and organization:
1. The setting up of a nationwide system of scouting
2. Ensuring the Collaboration of the country’s pro-clubs
3. Holding of National Camps (about 10-12 per year, each about 10 days long)
4. Pro-clubs persuaded to play youth football alongside pro fixtures.
5. Meetings with the Federation and club coaches are held every three months
6. Introduction of nutrition and psychology programmes
7. Change in Mentality; before the focus was on simply qualifying; now it’s entirely on winning the competition.
8. Player education; Proper etiquette, improvements in players behaviour at hotels, how to speak at press conferences etc.
Varca says that the idea of dedicated youth academies is only now being visited; hinting that academies will not necessarily bring success and the lack of them doesn’t mean failure.28



APPENDIX 1: Youth Academy Catchment Areas National Football Academies of Trinidad and Tobago
Port of Spain City Corporation    49031
Diego Martin Regional Corporation    105720
San Juan-Laventille Regional Corporation    157295
Market Size (catchment area #1)    312,046
Tunapuna-Piarco Regional Corporation    203975
Arima Borough Corporation    32278
Sangre Grande Regional Corporation    64343
Market Size(catchment area #2)    300,596
Chaguanas Burough Corporation    67433
Couva-Tabaquite-Talparo Regional Corporation    162779
San Fernando City Corporation    55419
Market Size (catchment area #3)    285,631
Penal-Debe Regional Corporation    83609
Princess town Regional Corporation    91947
Rio claro-Mayaro Regional Corporation    33480
Point fortin Borough Corporation    19056
Siparia Regional Corporation    81917
Market Size (catchment area #4)    310,009
Tobago (Market Size) (catchment area #5)    54,084
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2012, 02:17:06 PM »
Plenty info to digest here.  I just have one recommendation to add at this point in time, which based on my perusal was not mentioned...

The MoS should wrest the control of football from private ownership and have it subjected to the total ambit of the MoS.  If it has to be privately operated afterwards so to be it, but the TTFF should be no different to any of the other sporting bodies in the country.
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2012, 03:05:06 PM »
CLEAN AND FAIR ELECTIONS OF THE TTFF

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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2012, 03:13:03 PM »
Plenty info to digest here.  I just have one recommendation to add at this point in time, which based on my perusal was not mentioned...

The MoS should wrest the control of football from private ownership and have it subjected to the total ambit of the MoS.  If it has to be privately operated afterwards so to be it, but the TTFF should be no different to any of the other sporting bodies in the country.

yes there is a tremendous amount to digest here. and in a very short space of time.  partly my fault, but it is what it is. i've seen forum members go back and forth writing hours of football material in a day, and even sometimes over very trivial stuff or fights.

its a lot to ask but hopefully some folks might have a little spare time to look it over even and have one or two short comments
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2012, 03:13:23 PM »
CLEAN AND FAIR ELECTIONS OF THE TTFF

NATIONAL TRAINING CENTER AND ACADEMY... WITH HIGH CLASS DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL

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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2012, 04:18:40 PM »
CLEAN AND FAIR ELECTIONS OF THE TTFF

NATIONAL TRAINING CENTER AND ACADEMY... WITH HIGH CLASS DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
CLEAN AND FAIR ELECTIONS OF THE TTFF

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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2012, 06:07:43 PM »
Agreed a lot to digest here!
Most important to regain public trust and confidence which is zero at the moment with the TTFF! Hence free and fair elections should be held within the next month!
TTFF must be encouraged to have clubs participate fully, one club one vote, hence the Constitution  must be amended
Outstanding issues with the soca warriors must be resolved amicably
Project should be formulated for a proper record of our football history over the last 100 years, if we don't know where we come from we don't know where we going! All serious Footballing countries have it! We can't ignore this as we tend to do in Trinidad, mash up everything and start from sratch.
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 Technical Committee should be appointed to guide our football development ASAP! These persons should have a track record of high achievement at local and international level as players or coaches And should not be dominated by the Maple club network! Criteria should be fair and transparent and subject to public scrutiny !

Many good ideas in the consolidated report but we have a history of good ideas on paper and not choosing the right people to implement them.
While I appreciate the MOS approach ,it should not appear that it is taking over the role of the TTFf, however in the short term , it will have to oversee the reconstruction since government is funding the programmes until it can rebuild public trust and get the support of the private sector! Of course we have to play exciting soccer and regain our football prowess for this to happen and to capture the imagination of our people that we can be competitive as we were in the 70s, late 80s and early 2000!
Hope my suggestions will be considered!
These persons should be properly invited to a small consultation with officials of TTFF facilitated by the ministry of Sport and the list should be made public!

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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2012, 06:34:51 PM »
Very good post  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:

there is a lot of emphasis on football, but I believe the key to useful change lies in digging up and reforming the administrative roots. The MoS should not be giving the TTFF CPR. Let them dead. The flip side of that is they hold the purse strings and therefore have influence. It can force the TTFF to change at least some of its practices. IMO they must require stringent financial controls, publishing of the ttff annual statements, require that the corporate structure must be change to a non-profit organization, and posted notices of election of officers. The ttff should also have a full board of directors or oversight committee comprised of citizens, business people, sportsmen/women, and government officials. No more one man show.
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2012, 08:24:21 PM »
1. Pay the '06 players, Latapy, and all owed and publically apolagize to the nation. . .this will allow the TTFF to gain credibility, respect, and be taken seriously.

2. Insist on a players union. Accountability, transparency, and creditability are indispensible to good leadership. One of the hallmarks of democracy is checks and balances. Although not perfect, it at least allows people to be able to trust the system. When people trust and believe in the program, they will be willing to commit and give their all.

3. Revisit the TTFF constitution: Get the best people in there, not who you owe a favor. . .old boys network da da da.

4. Consider returning to the community based football approach to incite community love and ownership of the sport
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2012, 10:10:40 PM »
Real work to do to restore community football. Looking at the potential youth academy catchment areas, #4 has the second largest population but is barely serviced. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2012, 03:06:35 AM »
Couple of questions for the strategies..
1) With the youth academies training three times a week, is this going to be separate to the youth league of the PFL? So will a youth who shows promise with a club in the PFL youth league have to then leave and move on to the Academy if he is deemed good enough?

2)Glad to see the sports science etc they looking at. But what about either starting a Sports Medicine PostGrad program in Trinidad or forging links with the already existing programs in the UK etc. This will be quite useful for soon to graduate Doctors with an interest in completing a Sports Med Diploma, post grad study  ;D I know there are many programs in the US but the couple I have seen in the UK are specific to the sports we play the most at home (football, cricket, athletics). This could be useful as if the Government provides the training then they can have properly qualified sports med docs, and not docs who jus have an interest in sports. This would be useful to have for the Academies and can be assigned to National teams

3) Player's union is a must with input into the running of the game in the nation.

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2012, 03:33:16 AM »
Finally, they are willing to take suggestions, very good, better late than never.

i hope that they take into consideration that the SSFL has been our only source of recruitment option for national players, and this product is just not good enough. we need well organized technically sound development programs that runs year round, and not seasonal like the SSFL for our player supply source.

we need those programs to be live in, 5 days a week and weekends off, with sports being the major focus with an academic program as well to ensure sound education of these young players from form one to form six. 

each zone should have a govt funded academy, with one in the south, one in the  POS areas, one in the west (diego, carenarge, petit valley ect), the east, central, north coast area (blanshesseuse, toco, matlot, matura, etc), and two in tobago, one on the windward and the other on the leeward side of the island.

we also need well qualified coaches to run these programs, coaches with uefa licenses or something to that effect in order to work with our kids.

judging from our last olympic qualifiers, we must realize that the pro league needs a better product, and in order for that to be realized, the level of this league must be elevated, the pace must be faster, the coaching sounder, and players need a better technical and fitness regiment in order to keep up with the rest of concacaf.

last but not least, we also need proper medical staff @ SSFL and pro league games, who are trained to handle any kind of emergency occurrence especially on game day.
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2012, 03:36:50 AM »
Couple of questions for the strategies..
1) With the youth academies training three times a week, is this going to be separate to the youth league of the PFL? So will a youth who shows promise with a club in the PFL youth league have to then leave and move on to the Academy if he is deemed good enough?

2)Glad to see the sports science etc they looking at. But what about either starting a Sports Medicine PostGrad program in Trinidad or forging links with the already existing programs in the UK etc. This will be quite useful for soon to graduate Doctors with an interest in completing a Sports Med Diploma, post grad study  ;D I know there are many programs in the US but the couple I have seen in the UK are specific to the sports we play the most at home (football, cricket, athletics). This could be useful as if the Government provides the training then they can have properly qualified sports med docs, and not docs who jus have an interest in sports. This would be useful to have for the Academies and can be assigned to National teams

3) Player's union is a must with input into the running of the game in the nation.


I believe these youth could either compete against each other in a zonal fixture, or they could play practice games against other academies in europe or south america. i also think that the govt funded academies should be separate from the club acdemies though i doubt the clubs would ever dear to think of having ah bonified academy in T&T.
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2012, 04:05:42 AM »
Couple of questions for the strategies..
1) With the youth academies training three times a week, is this going to be separate to the youth league of the PFL? So will a youth who shows promise with a club in the PFL youth league have to then leave and move on to the Academy if he is deemed good enough?

2)Glad to see the sports science etc they looking at. But what about either starting a Sports Medicine PostGrad program in Trinidad or forging links with the already existing programs in the UK etc. This will be quite useful for soon to graduate Doctors with an interest in completing a Sports Med Diploma, post grad study  ;D I know there are many programs in the US but the couple I have seen in the UK are specific to the sports we play the most at home (football, cricket, athletics). This could be useful as if the Government provides the training then they can have properly qualified sports med docs, and not docs who jus have an interest in sports. This would be useful to have for the Academies and can be assigned to National teams

3) Player's union is a must with input into the running of the game in the nation.


I believe these youth could either compete against each other in a zonal fixture, or they could play practice games against other academies in europe or south america. i also think that the govt funded academies should be separate from the club acdemies though i doubt the clubs would ever dear to think of having ah bonified academy in T&T.

yeah JC that is why I am asking. If we want the pro league to continue having youth teams, then some kind of agreement has to come into place with what happens if the Academy takes it's best youth players. As this in itself will reduce the quality of the PFL youth programs. I like the idea to have the academies play each other and do tours
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Re: MoS and the future of football: Make your views known
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2012, 07:00:40 AM »
A change of mentality is required.

"Winning isn't everything, it is the only thing. Winning isn't a sometime thing, it's an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while.....you do them right all the time" — Vince Lombardi, Legendary Head Coach, Green Bay Packers, NFL.

After trailing Liverpool for much of the game, United came back to stun Liverpool in the dying minutes of the game to win 2 - 1 in the 1998 - 1999 treble season. It was labelled as an incredible comeback. Sir Alex said that he knew Liverpool was not going to beat them. "Such was the will to win, the team had a never say die attitude that carried them through the trying times" he said.
It is not enough to settle for mediocrity, to be happy to be in a tournament, to get blasted out of the tournament, ask Cornmeal, Latapy, Cooper, Vranes, and last but not least, Eve, to be perceived as the "bitches" in every tournament you enter into.

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

In the CONCACAF region, the Mexicans understand what it takes to be number 1, so too do the Americans. Running a football team is no different than running any other organization. The principles are the same. The object is to win, to beat the other guy. See the 7 - 1 ass whopping. Any questions?
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Re: MoS and the future of football: Make your views known
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2012, 11:43:11 AM »
I had the opportunity to attend the 2008 African Cup of Nations in Ghana and met with football leaders from several countries. The most important discussion of a way forward for those nations was on coaching education. Take a closer look at Venezuela and Spain and you'll also find that this was the focus to improve the quality of the game in those countries. Statistics shared at a Director Of Coaching Course I attended indicated that Spain had a significantly higher number of coaches with UEFA A and UEFA Pro qualifications , followed by Germany, France, Italy then England.
Of course, administration and governance has to be in place for anything else to take root and progress.
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2012, 01:35:38 PM »
I had the opportunity to attend the 2008 African Cup of Nations in Ghana and met with football leaders from several countries. The most important discussion of a way forward for those nations was on coaching education. Take a closer look at Venezuela and Spain and you'll also find that this was the focus to improve the quality of the game in those countries. Statistics shared at a Director Of Coaching Course I attended indicated that Spain had a significantly higher number of coaches with UEFA A and UEFA Pro qualifications , followed by Germany, France, Italy then England.
Of course, administration and governance has to be in place for anything else to take root and progress.
Yeh i agree with you, but! those countries of which you speak have all the infrastructure and the basics well in place, so they could pursue other avenues to improve their game, but! T&T's football is in shambles, and they don't even have the basics in place so they could develop in other areas.

what we need to do is fix the broken league we have, and then we need to work on youth development, before we could think of any thing else.

just look @ how those boys looked lost in the olympic qualifiers, and these fellas are over 20. in footballing nations, there are sixteen yr olds who are way more fundamentally sound and fitter than our under 23 squad, that's bc they went though the rigor of youth academies where they learn the basics and graduated to a higher level learning their craft meticulously

yes we need coaching upgrades real bad, and i encourage that, but it still would not solve our problems, until we start teaching these young boys how to play football properly, this and a high level of coaching goes hand in hand on the road to proper football development IMO.
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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2012, 01:53:49 PM »
Halelujah!! wait is this an april fools joke??  Ok hopefully its not !!!  lets all hope this is the dawning of a new beginning ...... a cleansing for the benefit of all football disciplines in all Trinidad and tobago as a whole....please i hope for all the stakeholders involved be  serious , determined,disciplined ,   i'm hopeful and i do believe it is achieveable.. Yes Trinidad and Tobago i believe we are more than  capable of achieving success i have no doubt collectively it can all be done....I am making a plea however to the TTff and the present administrators to deal with and have the outstanding matters regarding the soca warriors 2006 forthwith in order to remove those obstacles that hangs like a grey cloud overhead .... please deal with those outstanding issues as i have no doubt the individuals who unfortunately been blacklisted( the soca warriors2006 players) as a result  have much to offer ..  address the issues seriously ....

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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2012, 05:45:38 PM »
The MoS has given us a little leeway. They are willing to receive our submissions after today. We can extend it to Sunday April 8 at 10pm.
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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2012, 05:48:58 PM »
Have John D, Sando Tech and any other Tertiary education school join the Trinidad League. They can play zonal football and work their way up like all other clubs.

Have a zonal colleges competition, eg. N. Zone, South Zone etc, climaxing in a grand final and consolation final.

At the end of the football season have the national U-19 team play a top youth team from abroad, eg. Mexico or even a club youth team, Man U U 19, Flamengo, Arsenal etc.

Have a Trinidad vs Tobago Derby. the game should alternate between Trinidad and Tobago every year, with the best of TRin and Tobago. Have it in early summer when the football season is off for most leagues. This could be an unofficial scouting session.

Use the off season to bring down top clubs/countries to play TT. Let the Ministry organize this in tandem with a private firm, as the TTFF has shown they are hopeless in this area. Quality football will bring out the clubs.

Have an annual Masters tournament with countries such as TT, J'ca, England, Brazil and others. It will be a boon for our tourism.
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2012, 07:26:25 PM »
The MoS has given us a little leeway. They are willing to receive our submissions after today. We can extend it to Sunday April 8 at 10pm.

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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2012, 06:44:21 AM »
The MoS has given us a little leeway. They are willing to receive our submissions after today. We can extend it to Sunday April 8 at 10pm.

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Ah just hope Anil give us credit for this and doh try to pass them off as their ideas.
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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2012, 07:39:21 AM »
PRESSURE WASH THE TTFF
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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2012, 10:27:06 AM »
The MoS has given us a little leeway. They are willing to receive our submissions after today. We can extend it to Sunday April 8 at 10pm.

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Ah just hope Anil give us credit for this and doh try to pass them off as their ideas.

its just a public consultation, with a lot of people providing input. so we won't get individual credit, although you can see where the MoS has incoprporated elements of socawarriors.net submitted ideas on accountability, planning, player monitoring and youth development.

to be fair, while the initiative is not perfect, its a very good step forward by the ministry. and so far they have acknowleged their gratitude for the public for their input.

palos is the man who had the idea for us to participate in the first place. so he deserve props for that  ;D
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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2012, 11:38:51 AM »
All these ideas are nice but who is going to implement it the same cabal of people who have been running things?

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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2012, 01:15:26 PM »
All these ideas are nice but who is going to implement it the same cabal of people who have been running things?

the ttff leadership can barely tie their shoe lace and chew gum at the same time. the MoS must be made to hear this loud and clear so they do not continue to throw taxpayers money at these people without demanding some wholesale changes in personell and structure.

so are you making a statement that the cabal has to be cleaned out and replaced with better people and practices before any meaningful change can be implemented? if so we are in full agreement
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