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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Play offs
« Reply #240 on: June 14, 2012, 09:51:39 PM »
You really hate to complain about the officiating... but wow.  Just WOW.

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« Reply #241 on: June 14, 2012, 09:55:29 PM »
You really hate to complain about the officiating... but wow.  Just WOW.
I done complain, dias not the first one major missed call they messed up in the playoffs

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« Reply #242 on: June 14, 2012, 10:15:48 PM »
You really hate to complain about the officiating... but wow.  Just WOW.
I done complain, dias not the first one major missed call they messed up in the playoffs

I really doh know what de fack Tom Washington was really looking at on that play.  It's very cliched to complain about the officiating, but when you consider some of the soft fouls they were calling earlier... it was just a very inconsistently officiated game.  Case in point:

- Sefalosha was called for a foul on LeBron where he swiped and missed both James' head and the ball.  Van Gundy say they call the foul because his left hand was in James' back.

- Wade slipped and fall with the ball as the clock was winding down, Fisher fell on top of him (Wade fell at his feet) and foul was called with :02 secs on the shot clock.

- Durant got called for a charge, giving him 4 fouls (he later committed his fifth).  It was clear from the review that Battier was still moving.  Later on... same exact play, Battier was called for the foul instead.

- Same thing on the Harden offensive foul on Chalmers... but no call when James did the same thing to Harden later on.

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Play offs
« Reply #243 on: June 14, 2012, 10:52:08 PM »
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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Play offs
« Reply #244 on: June 14, 2012, 10:55:44 PM »
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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Play offs
« Reply #245 on: June 15, 2012, 09:53:49 AM »
You really hate to complain about the officiating... but wow.  Just WOW.
I done complain, dias not the first one major missed call they messed up in the playoffs

I really doh know what de fack Tom Washington was really looking at on that play.  It's very cliched to complain about the officiating, but when you consider some of the soft fouls they were calling earlier... it was just a very inconsistently officiated game.  Case in point:

- Sefalosha was called for a foul on LeBron where he swiped and missed both James' head and the ball.  Van Gundy say they call the foul because his left hand was in James' back.

- Wade slipped and fall with the ball as the clock was winding down, Fisher fell on top of him (Wade fell at his feet) and foul was called with :02 secs on the shot clock.

- Durant got called for a charge, giving him 4 fouls (he later committed his fifth).  It was clear from the review that Battier was still moving.  Later on... same exact play, Battier was called for the foul instead.

- Same thing on the Harden offensive foul on Chalmers... but no call when James did the same thing to Harden later on.

Yup all those fouls were questionalble, but it's sometimes inexcusable in critical moments of the game like that when refs miss blatant calls, especially when the ref is right there on the baseline in front of the play. Maybe it might've of been difficult for him to observe from the angle he was standing but he had 3 different opportunites to call the foul on that one play lol.
That said, I'm happy Miami won because now we have series and more basketball to watch so like yuh self Peong :wavetowel: :beermug:

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Play offs
« Reply #246 on: June 15, 2012, 01:28:31 PM »
This is from the Miami New Times.  Funny stuff.

Miami Heat Withstand Thunder Rally, Tie Series 1-1

Holy assballs it almost happened again.

After the Miami Heat held the lead from the opening tip, just like in Game 1, and held a double-digit lead, just like in Game 1, the Oklahoma City Thunder almost rallied back to steal Game 2, just like Game 1.

But thanks to LeBron James hitting a slap-yo-momma-and-pay-the-rent-bankshot and two free throws at the end, Miami was able to hang on for the 100-96 win, tying up the NBA Finals 1-1, and avoiding the unbridled chaos and awfulness that would have buried us all today had they blown this f**king game.

- LeBron James brought the Cobradick for the second-straight game in these Finals, dropping 32 points (the highest scoring total he's put together in a Finals), grabbing 8 rebounds and going 12-for-12 from the free throw line. With a dong harder than volcanic rock and a willingness to attack the rim with a series of vicious dick slaps, LeBron scored the majority of his points in the paint. And his aggressiveness earned him twelve trips to the charity stripe, which -- as shitty as he can be from that place -- always bodes well for Miami.

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Play offs
« Reply #247 on: June 15, 2012, 02:39:16 PM »
:wavetowel:
It have a 'get away be the skin of yuh teeth' emoticon?
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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Play offs
« Reply #248 on: June 15, 2012, 07:43:34 PM »
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It have a 'get away be the skin of yuh teeth' emoticon?

Like Durant get away from foulin out and not bein there to hit 5 more points?
And get away from what, overtime?  I guess once it goes to overtime OKC guaranteed to win.
OKC's season is over.

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Play offs
« Reply #249 on: June 15, 2012, 10:02:16 PM »
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It have a 'get away be the skin of yuh teeth' emoticon?

Like Durant get away from foulin out and not bein there to hit 5 more points?
And get away from what, overtime?  I guess once it goes to overtime OKC guaranteed to win.
OKC's season is over.

He never would have fouled out because his fourth foul (charge on Battier) was not a foul.  OKC wasn't guaranteed to win, but with momentum, at home... yeah, de Heat get away.  We go see how loud yuh crowing next weekend.

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« Reply #250 on: June 15, 2012, 10:21:04 PM »
Also if Durant got 2 frees, then it was Heat's ball with 11 seconds to go.  Enough time to score or at least get fouled.

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« Reply #251 on: June 15, 2012, 10:31:54 PM »
Also if Durant got 2 frees, then it was Heat's ball with 11 seconds to go.  Enough time to score or at least get fouled.

Perhaps... or the Heat woulda turn it over again, with no natural ball-handler on the club.

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« Reply #252 on: June 17, 2012, 09:07:04 PM »

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Play offs
« Reply #253 on: June 17, 2012, 09:20:34 PM »
More generous calls by the refs... and poor decisions by OKC down the stretch cost them this game.

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« Reply #254 on: June 18, 2012, 06:20:02 AM »
More generous calls by the refs... and poor decisions by OKC down the stretch cost them this game.

OKC needs there "Big Three" to put up points consistently in every game. Harden cyah go 2-10 and expect the team to win.
Westbrook is not a traditional PG, but this notion that all of a sudden he is supposed to morph into John Stockton, eh happening.
He needs to score, Harden has to put up some more points and Durant has to stay out of foul trouble... Dem fellas just missing open shots....




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« Reply #255 on: June 18, 2012, 09:12:22 AM »
OKC missed 9 free throws, Miami missed 4.
Lebron missed 1 late in the 4th, so I guess the haters still have that to hold on to.

Wade gave away the ball late in the game AGAIN.  This time he tried to cross-over I think 3 times and Sefalosha wasn't having it.
I thought after game 2 the coach woulda get in his face about that particular giveaway that cost 3 points, trying to dribble when he had an open pass to Lebron.
Obviously he didn't learn from that mistake.

Not to mention James' defensive dominance of Durant in the 4th.
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« Reply #256 on: June 18, 2012, 10:39:24 AM »
OKC missed 9 free throws, Miami missed 4.
Lebron missed 1 late in the 4th, so I guess the haters still have that to hold on to.

Wade gave away the ball late in the game AGAIN.  This time he tried to cross-over I think 3 times and Sefalosha wasn't having it.
I thought after game 2 the coach woulda get in his face about that particular giveaway that cost 3 points, trying to dribble when he had an open pass to Lebron.
Obviously he didn't learn from that mistake.

Not to mention James' defensive dominance of Durant in the 4th.
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Get in his face.... ;D The last time Spolstera try to correct Wade in de Indiana series, is all kinda buff and cuss he collect on de sidelines. So yuh could imagine wha does go on behind closed doors....

OKC's inexperience go cause dem to lose this series.
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« Reply #257 on: June 18, 2012, 11:07:57 AM »
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« Reply #258 on: June 18, 2012, 11:16:50 AM »
This game was a dogfight, plenty turnovers.  Miami driving to the hole and getting rejected or having to pass back out.  Thunder missing jumpers.  I could only imagine how the next one will be with OKC desperate not to go 2 games down.
A desperate OKC is very dangerous.

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« Reply #259 on: June 19, 2012, 09:44:17 PM »
This is Miami's year...the lights too bright for Harden

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« Reply #260 on: June 19, 2012, 09:44:55 PM »
OKC imploded down the stretch... but once more, at pain of sounding like a broken record, the officiating was dreadful and OKC paid the price.  There is no way Miami wins any of these games without the b.s. calls/non-calls.  First time in NBA Finals history (not my stat, ESPN's stat) that an All-Star has been in foul trouble.  Game 4 Durant wasn't in foul trouble, but they found other scapegoats in Harden and Ibaka.  Anyone who argues that the fouls haven't impacted the series, or who argues that they haven't gone overwhelmingly in Miami's favor just aren't being honest.

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« Reply #261 on: June 19, 2012, 09:45:46 PM »
This is Miami's year...the lights too bright for Harden

Harden??  Is Harden you posting about dread? lol


Okay... yes.

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« Reply #262 on: June 19, 2012, 09:58:06 PM »
James get cramp like a bitch. Man could barely walk
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« Reply #263 on: June 19, 2012, 10:05:49 PM »
This is Miami's year...the lights too bright for Harden

Harden??  Is Harden you posting about dread? lol


Okay... yes.

Nah Bakes Harden is key to OKC's success, he is the 3rd option....he has to step up to take them over the hump. He had 3 games where he under performed and they lost all of them. With that being said, he's not the sole reason as they still could've won but he's not been himself for most of this series.


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« Reply #265 on: June 20, 2012, 06:32:01 AM »
OKC should have been swept in this series....
Miami had and lost a double digit lead in the first game.
One thing people fail to realize is that although the Western conference have the better offensive teams, defensively they are not on par with the top teams in the Eastern conference.
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« Reply #266 on: June 20, 2012, 07:21:36 AM »
OKC imploded down the stretch... but once more, at pain of sounding like a broken record, the officiating was dreadful and OKC paid the price.  There is no way Miami wins any of these games without the b.s. calls/non-calls. 
OKC imploded down the stretch... but once more, at pain of sounding like a broken record, the officiating was dreadful and OKC paid the price.  There is no way Miami wins any of these games without the b.s. calls/non-calls.  First time in NBA Finals history (not my stat, ESPN's stat) that an All-Star has been in foul trouble.  Game 4 Durant wasn't in foul trouble, but they found other scapegoats in Harden and Ibaka.  Anyone who argues that the fouls haven't impacted the series, or who argues that they haven't gone overwhelmingly in Miami's favor just aren't being honest.
Trouble, but they found other scapegoats in Harden and Ibaka.  Anyone who argues that the fouls haven't impacted the series, or who argues that they haven't gone overwhelmingly in Miami's favor just aren't being honest.

Nah Bakes, one or two bad calls here and there usually even out for both teams over a 7 game series.
There are other factors contributing to OKC's demise.
1.James 'need to cut yuh beard' Harden eh pulling he weight.
2. For all dey length, size and athleticism the team is getting beaten on de boards and lose balls.
3.Mental errors killing dem fellas bad. Case in point, in the  last game coach call a timeout, draw up a play and dey eh even get a chance to run it cause on de inbound pass Sefolosha give de ball right back to de Heat. Ah next example was last night in the closing seconds they were down by three. There was a jump ball situation and de coaching staff told de entire team that if Miami win de tip dey go have only 5 secs on de shot clock. Westbrook get ah brain cramp and foul Chalmers with 1 second off de clock...
4.They were up by 17 in the first quarter and at the time even VanGundy said that he eh like how de team playing cause is one setta 1v1 ball. Heat went on ah 30-16 run and it was all she wrote.
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« Reply #267 on: June 20, 2012, 11:41:19 AM »
all them bad calls on durant affectin the man play,it clear as f**kin day.......OKC COMIN BACK IN THE NEXT 3......i like LBJ but he playin nasty.
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« Reply #268 on: June 20, 2012, 01:57:24 PM »
Nah Bakes, one or two bad calls here and there usually even out for both teams over a 7 game series.
There are other factors contributing to OKC's demise.
1.James 'need to cut yuh beard' Harden eh pulling he weight.
2. For all dey length, size and athleticism the team is getting beaten on de boards and lose balls.
3.Mental errors killing dem fellas bad. Case in point, in the  last game coach call a timeout, draw up a play and dey eh even get a chance to run it cause on de inbound pass Sefolosha give de ball right back to de Heat. Ah next example was last night in the closing seconds they were down by three. There was a jump ball situation and de coaching staff told de entire team that if Miami win de tip dey go have only 5 secs on de shot clock. Westbrook get ah brain cramp and foul Chalmers with 1 second off de clock...
4.They were up by 17 in the first quarter and at the time even VanGundy said that he eh like how de team playing cause is one setta 1v1 ball. Heat went on ah 30-16 run and it was all she wrote.

"one or two bad calls"??  Have you been watching the series?  Name me ONE Miami player that has been in  foul trouble in this series.  Lemmih get comfortable because I know it will take you a while.  That aside, is WHO the foul trouble has been on as well... OKC needs Durant and Ibaka on the floor and thanks to the refs, it not happening.  Okay, you say that OKC has been fouling more... perhaps, but there's no way you can convince me that a team that plays as physically as Miami does, is fouling more than OKC.

Last night Ibaka had, I think 4 fouls, and of those three was absolute bullshit.  The first was on a challenge on a Wade shot.  Wade released the ball, Ibaka blocked it THEN made contact with Wade... who fall to the floor like a breadfruit and a full second later the whistle blew for a foul.  The next one, Bosh went after a loose ball and Ibaka tripped over him as Bosh dove to the floor. Ibaka tried his best not to land on him and they still called the foul on him.  The third b.s. call was on a pick that Ibaka set on LeBron.  For one thing he barely made contact with LeBron, for another, his sneaker must been half an inch on the white line... ref called him for setting a pick "out of bounds".  Are you f**king kidding me??  This is the NBA Finals and that is the bullshit that getting called?  Incidental contact on a loose ball and some marginal  screen out of bounds call?  Let's not even talk about the phantom foul on a Wade missed layup where Durant blocked the ball clean.  The called the foul on Durant, then changed it to Westbrook, even though Westbrook didn't even make a play on Wade.   Now let's try to list the bad fouls on Miami this series..... exactly.

Easy to say "they even out" but that's bullshit, for one thing it gets players in foul trouble to the point that they can't contribute to their team (see, Harden) and for another it sends the opposing team to the line, and gets the "fouling" team into the penalty early... aka free points.  All of these games have been close games.  With Durant on the floor in Game 3 Miami likely loses.  Same with Ibaka to battle Bosh.  Let's  not even talk about the non-f**king foul on LeBron at the end of Game 2.  Whenever yuh ready to weigh in on the bad calls against Miami feel free.



As for the "mental errors" only Westbrook's foul counts as a mental error.  The coach didn't mention anything about the clock to them because there wasn't any timeout before the jump ball.  Not only wasn't there a timeout but no one from the OKC bench said anything... so blame the bench for that. 

Sefalosha was up against the 5 second count on that sideline inbounds play and Westbrook took a jab step to the sideline to receive the pass then fake out Sefalosha by coming to the top of the key.  How is that a "mental error"?

The only legitimate thing you mention is the hustle points for rebounds and loose balls, and the bad shots.  Those I will agree with.

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Play offs
« Reply #269 on: June 20, 2012, 05:24:49 PM »
In game 3 Durant was on the floor for the 4th quarter and scored 4 points.  Yet OKC were likely to win if he was on in the 3rd quarter?

 

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