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ESPN Classic Canada playing Classic Soccer
« on: May 25, 2012, 07:25:36 AM »
Right now dey replayin de Euro 1984 tournament in France

Cracking game yesterday (semi final) between Portugal and hosts France

France midfield was a real dream yes...Platini, Giresse, Tigana, Fernandez.  They didn't have a real striker but that team was well cohesive and fluid

I forget just what an excellent player Maxime Bossis was yes.  Holee...dat is a balla!

Another VERY noticeable thing about that France team as compared to the France team since say 1998....Tigana was the only black player on that squad.  Don't think it had any French players of north african descent either.  Now is almost the complete opposite.

Portugal had a striker named Jordao who was impressive.  Incidentally the only black player on Portugal side at the time.  But the Portugese player that impress me the most was Fernando Chalana.  Wicked player.

Today they showin France against Spain.  Spain had nuff left footers in dey ranks

Last week dey show de tournament where Holland won the tournament with Van Basten, Gullitt, Rijkaard etc and that wonder goal from Van Basten in the final
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Re: ESPN Classic Canada playing Classic Soccer
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 07:43:22 AM »
Yeah France side only get black in the late 90's...immigrant vibes. 

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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 09:10:40 AM »
Tresor wasn't in that French side too? Ah know he was in the WC side in either '82 or '86 or both.
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 09:27:42 AM »
Tresor wasn't in that French side too? Ah know he was in the WC side in either '82 or '86 or both.

He might have been in the squad but he wasn't playing.

Bossis and Le Roux were the centre backs
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 12:23:06 PM »
Tresor wasn't in that French side too? Ah know he was in the WC side in either '82 or '86 or both.

He might have been in the squad but he wasn't playing.

Bossis and Le Roux were the centre backs
Nah, I wouldn't have remembered him if he didn't play. Maybe he came on as a sub or something but I'm sure he played.
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Re: ESPN Classic Canada playing Classic Soccer
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 01:57:58 PM »
Tresor wasn't in that French side too? Ah know he was in the WC side in either '82 or '86 or both.

Correct, he was in the 82 side. He also played in the '78 WC.
I thought he was in the 86 side but Wiki say I wrong.

Damn good player - born in Guadaloupe.

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Re: ESPN Classic Canada playing Classic Soccer
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 02:28:29 PM »
Tresor wasn't in that French side too? Ah know he was in the WC side in either '82 or '86 or both.

Correct, he was in the 82 side. He also played in the '78 WC.
I thought he was in the 86 side but Wiki say I wrong.

Damn good player - born in Guadaloupe.

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Yeah, according to Wiki he last play for the National team in '83 so ah guess he wasn't in the '84 Euro either.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2012, 02:31:53 PM »
France has had long history of multiracial and multiethnic teams. I know there was a Moroccan name Ben Barack who played after the war. In the 78 WC in Argentina, Marius Tresor from Guadeloupe was the captain. In 82 Tigana(Mali) and a guy from New Caledonia was on the team. Read this from Wiki:

The France national team has long reflected the ethnic diversity of the country. The first black player to play in the national team was Raoul Diagne in 1931. Diagne was the son of the first African elected to the French National Assembly, Blaise Diagne. Seven years later, Diagne played on the 1938 FIFA World Cup team that featured Larbi Benbarek, Abdelkader Ben Bouali, and Michel Brusseaux, who were the first players of North African descent to play for the national team. At the 1958 FIFA World Cup, in which France reached the semi-finals, many sons of immigrants such as Raymond Kopa, Just Fontaine, Roger Piantoni, Maryan Wisnieski and Bernard Chiarelli were integral to the team's success. The tradition has since continued with successful French players such as Michel Platini, Jean Tigana, Manuel Amoros, Eric Cantona, Patrick Vieira, David Trezeguet, Claude Makélélé, Samir Nasri, Hatem Ben Arfa, and Karim Benzema all having either one or both of their parents foreign-born.
 
During the 1990s, the team was widely celebrated as an example of the modern multicultural French ideal.[20] The 1998 FIFA World Cup-winning team was celebrated and praised for inspiring pride and optimism about the prospects for the "French model" of social integration.[21] Of the 23 players on the team, the squad featured players who could trace their origins to Armenia, Algeria, Guadeloupe, New Caledonia, Argentina, Ghana, Senegal, Italy, French Guyana, Portugal, Spain, Martinique and the Basque Country with the patriarch of the team being Zinédine Zidane, who was born in Marseille to Algerian immigrants.
 
The multiracial makeup of the team has, at times, provoked controversy. In recent years, critics on the far right of the French political spectrum have taken issue with the proportional under-representation of ethnic white Frenchmen within the team. National Front politician Jean-Marie Le Pen protested in 1998 that the Black, Blanc, Beur team that won the World Cup did not look sufficiently French. In 2002, led by Ghanaian-born Marcel Desailly, the French team unanimously and publicly appealed to the French voting public to reject the presidential candidacy of Le Pen and, instead, return President Jacques Chirac to office. In 2006, Le Pen resumed his criticism charging that coach Raymond Domenech had selected too many black players.[22] In 2005, French philosopher Alain Finkielkraut caused controversy by remarking to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that despite its earlier slogan, "the French national team is in fact black-black-black," and also adding that "France is made fun of all around Europe because of that." He later excused himself from the comments declaring that they were not meant to be offensive.[23]



Portugal has also used a lot of colony players. Coluna, Eusebio and yes Rui Jordao. That man had speed. The Portugal-France semi final was a real classic.


 

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