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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #930 on: August 03, 2016, 08:24:24 PM »
Every year I say this. If you keep sending yourbest players to Europe and Asia, there's only so much of a void the youths can fill.

WC has been promising and dropping short like this for the last five years or so. But it was not always like that ... from2004-2010 they were not always a walkover team.

I understand they need revenue but they are like an England 2nd div side. selling their best and spinning their wheels.

I guess it is all about expectations. I don't expect any Pro League team to beat a Mexican team. We dont have the organization or talent to do so. Some of our best players play in MLS and MLS teams are not even in the league of the Mexican teams. So you look for positives in games like this. It's better W Connection sell their best players to better leagues than for them to play in the inferior pro league. These Concacaf games will be the hardest opposition that pro league teams play all season. We wouldn't expect a La Liga team to lose to a Belgium team, so why would we expect any better since we are the Concacaf equivalent. Until we get a Caribbean Football League with stronger teams I agree with the W Connection business practices.

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« Reply #931 on: August 03, 2016, 08:25:32 PM »
Every year I say this. If you keep sending yourbest players to Europe and Asia, there's only so much of a void the youths can fill.

WC has been promising and dropping short like this for the last five years or so. But it was not always like that ... from2004-2010 they were not always a walkover team.

I understand they need revenue but they are like an England 2nd div side. selling their best and spinning their wheels.

Charles bought a couple of decent Brazilians in the beginning. But times have changed.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #932 on: August 04, 2016, 02:37:17 AM »
Second-half surge pushes Pumas past W Connection.
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COUVA, Trinidad & Tobago -- Pumas returned from a four-year Scotiabank CONCACAF Champions League absence in style with a 4-2 away victory over DirecTV W Connection to open play in Group A on Wednesday night.

Jose Nieto scored a goal and set up another in a busy second half for the visitor at Ato Boldon Stadium. Luis Quintana, Josecarlos Van Rankin and Omar Islas also had goals for the Liga MX outfit, which improved to 3W-1D-0L all-time in SCCL openers.

For W Connection, Hughton Hector scored his second career goal in the competition. Jamal Charles also struck late to build upon the four goals he scored in the 2016 CFU Club Championship, the Caribbean’s qualifying tournament for the SCCL.

Van Rankin gave UNAM the lead for good in the 57th minute with a ferocious 25-yard strike. After intercepting a W Connection pass on the right flank, he took a couple touches forward, before unleashed a right-footed rocket beyond goalkeeper Julani Archibald’s dive and inside the left post.

Pumas doubled their advantage 16 minutes later, when Jesus Gallardo got down the left and crossed to Nieto for an easy finish.

Charles pulled the hosts within a goal in the 84th minute, taking Dimitrie Apai’s through ball, splitting two central defenders and curling a low finish beyond Alfredo Saldivar and inside the right post.

The visitor sealed victory deep in stoppage time as Nieto got down the left and guided in a cross to set up Hernandez’s gentle finish.

Quintana gave Pumas a 1-0 lead in the 10th minute with a pair of precise touches. On the first, he won an aerial battle over W Connection’s Daneil Cyrus. On the second, he smashed home right-footed volley from close range.

W Connection tied it at 1-1 in the 44th minute after Isaiah Hudson enticed Jose Antonio Garcia into a foul 25 yards from goal. Hector lifted his right-footed strike over Pumas’ defensive wall before it sailed away from Saldivar’s dive and inside the left post.

Pumas moved to 2W-1D-0L in three all-time SCCL games against W Connection.

Final

W Connection  2  v  Pumas  4
Hector 43    Quintana 9
Charles 83   Rankin 56
                 Nieto 72
                 Islas 90+3

Teams

W Connection: 18-Julani Archibald; 2-Kurt Frederick, 3-Gerard Williams, 27-Jelani Peters, 25-Daneil Cyrus; 12-Anselm Jackson (43- Malik St. Prix 76th), 13-Hughtun Hector, 14-André Toussaint (20-Jamal Charles 62nd), 8-Briel Thomas; 10-Dimitrie Apai, 32-Isaiah Hudson (11-Neil Benjamin 61st).

Coach: Stuart Charles Février.

Pumas UNAM: 13-Alfredo Saldívar; 2-Josecarlos Van Rankin, 18-Antonio García (Yellow 64), 19-Luis Quintana (Yellow 26), 12-Orlando Pineda; 6-Kevin Escamilla, 14- Jorge Escamilla (24-Diego Barrón 57th), 27-Omar Islas, 17-Jesús Gallardo (29-Alan Acosta 76th); 23-Alfonso Nieto (Yellow 80), 15-Eduardo Herrera (28-Andrés Iniestra 70th).

Coach: Juan Francisco Palencia.

Referee: Adrian Skeete (Barbados).

Venue: Ato Boldon Stadium, Trinidad.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #933 on: August 04, 2016, 05:10:26 AM »
WATCH: Highlights of W-Connection’s 4-2 loss to Pumas UNAM

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #934 on: August 04, 2016, 08:57:16 AM »
...with the quality of players that Dale Saunders have..I say he is a Boss Coach ..Dale Saunders is one of the better coaches in the Concacaf...better than Charles...

Not a bad showing by Central ...maybe  some of his players are not fully mature in the game as yet...the goal was unlucky...the defenders did their best...but a more experienced defender wouldn't have been beaten for pace like that..

At this level the better players win football matches.
I think this showin a little bias here. Connection didn't play too terrible. Same thing, they need a right back bad. They sub the one who give up the 2nd goal only to get one who toots heself on the 4th. But clearly givin up the midfiled and playing for the counter-attack...he playin with what he have.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #935 on: August 04, 2016, 09:31:49 AM »
...with the quality of players that Dale Saunders have..I say he is a Boss Coach ..Dale Saunders is one of the better coaches in the Concacaf...better than Charles...

Not a bad showing by Central ...maybe  some of his players are not fully mature in the game as yet...the goal was unlucky...the defenders did their best...but a more experienced defender wouldn't have been beaten for pace like that..

At this level the better players win football matches.
I think this showin a little bias here. Connection didn't play too terrible. Same thing, they need a right back bad. They sub the one who give up the 2nd goal only to get one who toots heself on the 4th. But clearly givin up the midfiled and playing for the counter-attack...he playin with what he have.

Who was the Connection defender in the fluorescent pink boots? In the highlights, he appeared to be the left flank defender.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #936 on: August 04, 2016, 12:16:13 PM »
WATCH: Defender Jamal Jack provides the assist on CD Dragón’s lone goal in their 2-1 loss to Portland Timbers
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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #937 on: August 04, 2016, 02:16:38 PM »
notice in both games how the stadium pack all round, showing the world how big a footballing nation we are..I think ah make out some fellas

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #938 on: August 04, 2016, 02:55:53 PM »
notice in both games how the stadium pack all round, showing the world how big a footballing nation we are..I think ah make out some fellas
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A total travesty.

Aside from the obvious commercial issues, is the poor attendance an indication of how domestic football has become balkanized? After all, both games took place in the respective clubs' backyards.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #939 on: August 04, 2016, 03:00:28 PM »
jus tune in in time to see the Connection goal  :wavetowel:

I watch the position of the FK and say ..you cah score from dey....

BAM the man score yes!!!

Been a while since I saw a TT score a Fk from that distance in a quality match.

HH is having a good game and scored a great goal. May have earned a spot for the next qualifier.

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On display at NT level, we have had several wasteful unfocused free kicks in areas of the pitch that we should be exploiting for goals consistently. Good to see Hector offering an alternative consideration, should he be on the field.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #940 on: August 04, 2016, 03:11:00 PM »
W Connection looked technically better than Central FC.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #941 on: August 05, 2016, 04:33:51 PM »
Hughton Hector and Andre Ettiene made Team of the Week

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #942 on: August 05, 2016, 04:37:24 PM »
Hughton Hector and Andre Ettiene made Team of the Week



Ettiene !!!... CONCACAF really in bad shape, unless I took Ettiene for Goodridge?

Anyhow, how come T&T clubs is de only pro club teams in de world where players dont have their names on their shirts?

Or is this a Caribbean thing?

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #943 on: August 05, 2016, 05:07:41 PM »

Anyhow, how come T&T clubs is de only pro club teams in de world where players dont have their names on their shirts?

Or is this a Caribbean thing?



2 possible reasons

EEdah we players so popular, people doh need a name to know who dey is

Or

DJW countin on foreign clubs of de mentality dat "all a dem look alike" so if #17 look good in a game and a foreign team want him fuh a trial, he go sen Shahdon Winchester regardless of who #17 really is
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« Reply #944 on: August 05, 2016, 11:21:05 PM »

Anyhow, how come T&T clubs is de only pro club teams in de world where players dont have their names on their shirts?

Or is this a Caribbean thing?



2 possible reasons

EEdah we players so popular, people doh need a name to know who dey is

Or

DJW countin on foreign clubs of de mentality dat "all a dem look alike" so if #17 look good in a game and a foreign team want him fuh a trial, he go sen Shahdon Winchester regardless of who #17 really is

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #945 on: August 06, 2016, 02:35:33 AM »
... Perhaps CONCACAF gets what CONCACAF does not demand.

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« Reply #946 on: August 06, 2016, 05:53:49 PM »

Anyhow, how come T&T clubs is de only pro club teams in de world where players dont have their names on their shirts?

Or is this a Caribbean thing?

Teams generally use the same kits for more than one season and those same uniforms double up to be used as youth team uniforms down the line.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #947 on: August 06, 2016, 08:16:14 PM »
WATCH: Highlights of W-Connection’s 4-2 loss to Pumas UNAM

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that last goal Pumas score was too simple. Maybe W Connection was already mentally and physically defeated and wanted to go home and sleep.
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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #948 on: August 16, 2016, 06:47:59 PM »
Kenwyne miss a f00cking sitter.

Much better football by Central.

Garcia and Paul look real neat.

Villaroel look solid in left back.

They need to put Mitchell down de Center.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #949 on: August 16, 2016, 07:27:13 PM »
man ent know he have to watch out for the hole orwa.  :D

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #950 on: August 16, 2016, 08:38:50 PM »
Score?
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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #951 on: August 16, 2016, 08:45:26 PM »
Sporting KC comes from behind to earn 2-2 draw at Central FC in CCL opener.
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Sporting Kansas City came from behind to earn a 2-2 draw at Central FC in the club’s opening match of the 2016-17 Scotiabank CONCACAF Champions League group stage at Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva, Trinidad and Tobago.

Defenders Seth Sinovic and Kevin Ellis bookended the scoring with their first goals of the season, while Marcus Joseph and Kenwyne Jones struck for the Sharks in a match that was scoreless at halftime but burst to life in the final 45 minutes. The result leaves Sporting Kansas City in second place in Group C, two points behind Vancouver Whitecaps FC with three group stage matches still to play.

Right back Saad Abdul-Salaam was the only player to retain his spot in Sporting Kansas City's starting XI from Saturday's a 2-2 draw at FC Dallas. The reshuffled lineup included a Sporting Kansas City debut for 21-year-old center back Amer Didic, who has played 21 matches this season for USL affiliate Swope Park Rangers. Roger Espinoza and Soni Mustivar returned from one-game suspensions to join Paulo Nagamura in the midfield, while Diego Rubio was flanked by Brad Davis and Connor Hallisey in a three-pronged attack. Between the posts, homegrown goalkeeper Jon Kempin earned his first Sporting KC appearance of 2016.

Kempin was called to action just two minutes into the match when target forward Jones got behind the Sporting Kansas City backline. The former English Premier League veteran — on loan from 2017 MLS expansion side Atlanta United FC — put his subsequent strike on target, but Kempin reacted low to his left to make the stop.

The visitors responded with their first clear chance in the 12th minute. An extended spell of possession culminated with Espinoza feeding Hallisey into space on the left side of the box, but his venomous blast rattled the near post before caroming into the side netting and out of play.

The same duo combined in the 28th minute as Hallisey picked out Espinoza on the edge of the penalty area. The Honduran international pulled the trigger from 18 yards, forcing goalkeeper Javon Sample into his first of four six on the evening.

Central FC threatened twice in the late stages of the first period. Joseph could only steer his low shot wide of Kempin’s lefthand post before Jones’ headed goal off an in-swinging free kick was disallowed after he clattered into Kempin on the edge of the six-yard box.

A pulsating second half saw both sides bag two goals, though Sporting Kansas City would dominate the final 20 minutes in search of a winner. The scoring opened in the 51st minute through Sinovic, who netted his third career goal in Sporting KC colors. Davis’ free kick from 25 yards struck the Central FC wall, but the midfielder kept the ball alive by lofting it to the far post. Sinovic was on hand to poke a deflected effort past Sample and give his side the lead.

The hosts responded with a vengeance, tallying a pair of goals within two minutes. Kempin made an initial save on Sean De Silva’s snapshot in the 54th minute, but Joseph pounced on the loose ball to rifle home from a tight angle on the right side of the penalty box. Jones then gave the Sharks a 2-1 lead after overlapping Joseph, receiving a perfectly weighted pass and firing just inside the near post to mark his Central FC debut with a goal.

Sporting Kansas City controlled the final half-hour and nearly equalized through Paulo Nagamura in the 65th minute, only for his right-footed rocket to find the outside of the netting from an acute angle in a crowded box. Left back Ever Alvarado made his Sporting Kansas City debut a minute later, replacing Sinovic after the goal scorer rolled his ankle in a divot a yard beyond the playing field.

Parity was restored once again in the 70th minute when Davis slipped an incisive through ball to Ellis, who had advanced upfield for a set piece less than a minute earlier. The homegrown center back cooly rounded the keeper before slotting into the net for his second career goal in the CONCACAF Champions League his the seventh for Sporting KC in all competitions.

Desperately seeking a third, Sporting Kansas City took a stranglehold of the affair in the waning embers of the match. Sample denied two players in quick succession with 15 minutes remaining, cleanly catching Rubio’s volley before pushing Davis’ well-hit strike wide of goal.

Central FC was pinned into its own box and would weather multiple waves of pressure in the final five minutes. An intricate buildup from Sporting KC in the 86th minute gave Rubio a good look at goal, but his low drive deflected through Sample’s legs and wide of the near post. Substitute Cameron Porter connected with Alvarado’s looping cross three minutes later, but the header lacked the pace and direction to beat the keeper. Sample may have saved his best save for last, springing at full extension to touch Nuno Coelho’s thunderous attempt just over the crossbar.

Sporting Kansas City will now travel 2,800 miles back home ahead of Saturday's MLS regular season match against Vancouver Whitecaps FC at Children's Mercy Park. Kickoff is set for 9 p.m. CT and a limited number of tickets for the all-important clash are still available via Ticketmaster.com.

Sporting KC (10-11-5, 35 points) is currently fifth in the Western Conference, five points ahead of eighth-place Vancouver (8-11-6, 30 points) and four points clear in the playoff race. Ticket holders are encouraged to arrive to the stadium early, as a variety of pregame festivities are scheduled before kickoff.

Final

Central  2  v  Sporting Kansas City  2
Joseph 54    Sinovic 51
Jones 56    Ellis 70

Teams

Sporting Kansas City: Jon Kempin; Saad Abdul-Salaam, Amer Didic, Kevin Ellis, Seth Sinovic (Ever Alvarado 66th); Paulo Nagamura (Nuno Coelho 67th), Soni Mustivar, Roger Espinoza (capt); Brad Davis, Diego Rubio, Connor Hallisey (Cameron Porter 81st).

Subs Not Used: Alec Kann, Lawrence Olum, Emmanuel Appiah, Tyler Pasher.

Central FC: Javon Sample; Elton John, Andre Ettienne (Yellow50), Keion Goodridge (Kaydion Gabriel 81st), Kevon Villaroel; Nathaniel Garcia, Leston Paul (capt), Marcus Joseph, Sean De Silva (Jason Marcano 76th), Darren Mitchell (Keron Cummings 53rd); Kenwyne Jones.

Subs Not Used: Akel Clarke, Nicholas Dillon, Jem Gordon, Johan Peltier.

Stats - SKC - v CFC

Shots    18   15
Shots on Goal   9   5
Saves   3   6
Fouls   11   15
Offside   4   3
Corner Kicks   8   2

Scoring Summary:

SKC -- Seth Sinovic 1 (unassisted) 51
CFC -- Marcus Joseph 1 (Sean De Silva 1) 54
CFC -- Kenwyne Jones 1 (Marcus Joseph 1) 56
SKC -- Kevin Ellis 1 (Brad Davis 1) 70

Quotes: Sporting KC at Central FC: 2-2

Sporting Kansas City Manager Peter Vermes

On the result...
"It's good to get a point out of here, but we should have gotten three. We were all over them on the left flank, on the right flank, we had so many chances all night long."

On Kevin [Ellis'] goal...
"It was a good ball in, he made a good run actually. He made a very good run. It comes back from his days being a forward. But he made a really good run in the box, good ball in to him and he has good presence around the keeper. He sees that he's out and he gets around him and just tucks it into the back of the net. It definitely was not an easy finish, but he made it look easy."

On Amer Didic's performance...
"He did a very good job. He learned a lot as the game went on. It's not easy to play against a guy with that strength and power [Kenwyne Jones], but he learned very quickly."

Sporting KC midfielder Paulo Nagamura

On the match...
I think we are a little bit disappointed because we feel that we could have gotten much more than one point.

On the urgency heading into the next Champions League match at Vancouver...
We knew Vancouver had gotten three points here, but to be honest, we are not too concerned about them, we are mostly focused on ourselves. In my opinion, we should have gotten three points today. It was disappointing, but it's still the first game of the group stage. There are three games left and we have another chance to get those points on the road.

On returning to the starting lineup...
I felt all right. I felt a little tired toward the middle of the second half, but it was a good 60-70 minutes and I'm happy with the time. Now, I just need to keep working to gain my fitness back to be able to play 90 minutes. This year has been tough, I have had some struggles with injuries. I just want to get back with the team and help my teammates to win games.

Sporting KC defender Amer Didic

On making his Sporting KC debut...
It was good. I felt nervous at first, but once the game settled down, I thought I found my groove. It was definitely something I tried to enjoy, being my first time with Sporting KC. I thought we were unlucky with the draw, but overall it was pretty exciting, pretty sweet.

On going against Kenwyne Jones...
I knew going in that I would be man-marking him on set pieces. He's a big, physical presence. He holds the ball up every time he gets it. It's just a matter of keeping him in front of you to make him play backward. He's just a very talented player.

Video - SCCL 2016-17: Central FC vs Sporting Kansas City Highlights.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #954 on: August 17, 2016, 04:42:34 AM »
Much better game by Central, even though the 2 goals Sporting KC scored was preventable. MLS teams is no better than T&T teams, we just give them to much respect and we dont take advantage of our home turf and goal scoring opportunities. Local coaches have no sense to, why we constantly playing a defensive formation in a must win game and your best attacking option (Marcano) on de bench. Marcano and Jones upfront have different styles and woulda compliment each other good, play 4-4-2, they have Jones on de wide right of midfield?.. come on man Stern John and Saunders coaching backward football. Fenwick woulda do a better job.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #955 on: August 17, 2016, 05:33:29 PM »
MLS teams is no better than T&T teams, we just give them to much respect and we dont take advantage of our home turf and goal scoring opportunities.


On what basis? Do you know that this was a 2nd string Kansas City squad?

Central FC held its own for about 70 mins, then fitness issues took over.  It was a decent performance by the sharks.
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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #956 on: August 18, 2016, 03:21:33 AM »
When B Sancho got rid of the 2 best coach's in the country he had condemned Central fc to mederocacy by looking at the job fenwick did at Jablotah he showed he know's  how to build a club, vanes is the only coach in T&T that has proven that he can coach at the international level and his work that he has done with the junior&senior team's has proven that he can build a solid team, B Sancho decision to go with local coach's have now sealed Central fc's faith they have now become another W Connection they may be able to win Caribbean championships but outside the Caribbean they are a crap team.

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« Reply #957 on: August 19, 2016, 07:52:31 PM »
WATCH: Central FC goalkeeper Javon Sample makes the CONCACAF Champions League Best Saves compilation for Week 2 of the Group Stage.

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WATCH: Marcus Joseph and Kenwyne Jones combine to make the CONCACAF Champions League Best Plays compilation for Week 2 of the Group Stage.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #958 on: August 22, 2016, 12:55:03 PM »
Fantastic result. Tough tough group and that point is golden.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #959 on: August 25, 2016, 06:58:58 PM »
W Connection playing some good ball,  leading 1-0 @ halftime.

 

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