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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #990 on: October 21, 2016, 07:10:04 AM »
Pumas UNAM pummels W-Connection 8-1, secures SCCL quarterfinal place
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Pumas (3W-0D-1L, 9 points) qualified for the 2016/17 Scotiabank CONCACAF Champions League quarterfinals for the fourth time in as many tries, recording an 8-1 Group A victory over DirecTV W Connection (0-1-3. 1) on Thursday night at the Estadio Olimpico Universitario.

Eduardo Herrera, Jesus Gallardo and Fidel Martinez notched two goals apiece, while Saul Berjon and Alfonso Nieto added one each in a winning effort.

Briel Thomas tallied for the Trinidadian visitor, which had never conceded more than four goals in 23 previous SCCL outings.

Nearly the entire first half was played in the W Connection end as the host stormed to a 3-0 halftime advantage.

Berjon started things off by heading in a Pablo Barrera right-wing cross past goalkeeper Julani Archibald in the 17th minute.

Herrera then took center stage by striking twice within a 10-minute span. His diving header off Gallardo's left-wing cross doubled the lead in the 30th minute. In what probably was the most impressive goal of the night, Barrera backheeled a pass to Herrera, who turned and fired from the penalty spot for a three-goal lead in the 40th minute.

It was more of the same in the second half. Gallardo tallied his first goal in the 55th minute, converting Martinez's feed into the lower right corner before Thomas pulled one back for W Connection in the 60th minute off Andre Toussaint's backpass past goalkeeper Alfredo Saldivar.

Gallardo put in a rebound off the left post for a 5-1 advantage in the 71st minute. Second-half substitute Alfonso Nieto made it 6-1, converting a curling effort from the upper right corner of the penalty area into the far post before Martinez closed out the scoring with goals in the 85th and 89th minutes.

Despite allowing eight goals, Archibald was outstanding. He made 10 saves, including denying Herrera's bid for a hat-trick on a penalty kick in the 64th minute.

Pumas became the eighth and final team to reach quarterfinals, joining fellow Mexican clubs Pachuca and Tigres, the New York Red Bulls and FC Dallas (both United States), Vancouver Whitecaps (Canada), Saprissa (Costa Rica) and Arabe Unido (Panama).

Lineups:

Pumas UNAM: 13. Alfredo Saldivar (GK), 2. José Van Rankin, 3. Gerardo Alcoba (José García Fernández 32'), 12. Orlando Pineda, 19. Luis Quintana, 6. Kevin Escamilla, 8. Pablo Barrera (Fidel Martinez 46’), 10. Abraham Gonzalez (Jose Nieto 53'), 11. Saul Berjón, 15. Eduardo Herrera, 17. Jesus Gallardo.

Unused Subs: 7. Javier Cortés, 22. Bernabe Magaña, 16. Marcelo Alatorre, 20. Matias Britos

Coach: Juan Francisco Palencia

W-Connection: 18. Julani Archibald (GK), 2. Kurt Frederick, 27. Jelani Peters, 4. Maurice Ford (23. Kevon Goddard 24'), 3. Gerard Williams, 17. Aikim Andrews (28. Mickell Charles 60’), 25. Daneil Cyrus, 8. Briel Thomas, 14. Andre Toussaint, 10. Dimitrie Apai 9. Shackiel Henry (11. Neil Benjamin 46’).

Unused Subs: 1. Terrence Lewis (GK), 20.Jamal Charles

Coach: Stuart Charles-Fevrier

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #991 on: October 21, 2016, 07:19:33 AM »
DJW has some serious decisions to make. His side lose 8-1. What is their problem. Players, coaching or both.

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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #992 on: October 21, 2016, 08:25:11 AM »
Send a second string team because they already out of it?
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Re: 2016/17 Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #993 on: October 28, 2016, 12:32:09 PM »
WATCH: Why do T&T Pro League teams suffer in the CONCACAF Champions League?

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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #994 on: March 14, 2019, 09:32:05 AM »
Trinidad and Tobago football clubs look set to miss out on the 2019 Caribbean Club Championship and the 2019 Concacaf Champions League due to the alleged failure of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) to properly execute its club licensing programme - Wired868.

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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #995 on: March 14, 2019, 12:14:24 PM »
Another blemish by the federation. Voting members take note!

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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #996 on: March 14, 2019, 06:34:08 PM »
Trinidad and Tobago football clubs look set to miss out on the 2019 Caribbean Club Championship and the 2019 Concacaf Champions League due to the alleged failure of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) to properly execute its club licensing programme - Wired868.

W Connection throat geh cut under DJW's watch? Nah! Something would have to be seriously twisted.

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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #997 on: March 14, 2019, 07:57:42 PM »
Doh make joke, dahis ting to resign for or have resignations demanded!

There's such a thing as oversight! Distracted dictators doh get excused.
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« Reply #998 on: March 14, 2019, 08:34:42 PM »
Doh make joke, dahis ting to resign for or have resignations demanded!

There's such a thing as oversight! Distracted dictators doh get excused.

Well, Michelle Lynch the club licensing manager was dismissed.
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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #999 on: March 15, 2019, 04:19:36 AM »
Three T&T clubs banned by Concacaf.
By Andrew Gioannetti (Newsday).


T&T football has faced another embarrassing set-back after it was revealed following a reconvened T&T Football Association (TTFA) board meeting that the three clubs, which qualified for the 2019 Concacaf Caribbean Club Championship, have been barred by Concacaf from participating in this year’s event over a supposed failure by the association to meet the confederation’s club licensing requirements.

W Connection, North East Stars FC and Police FC all qualified for the championship by virtue of their standing at the end of the last TT Pro League season.

Board member Keith Look Loy issued a report of Wednesday’s reconvened board meeting, telling stakeholders, “Concacaf has advised TTFA that it has failed to properly implement the confederation’s club licensing regulations and programme.”

He said the TTFA’s club licensing manager has since been dismissed with a replacement pending, and that a club licensing department will be created.

On Concacaf’s website the club licensing programme is said to focus on five specific functional areas of a club, namely its infrastructure, sporting, personnel and administration, legal and finance.

Concacaf president Jeffrey Webb describes it as “an ambitious project that will surely deliver benefits to all teams in the region and will elevate the standards in all the basic functional areas of a club operation and profitability,” while the confederation’s general secretary Enrique Sanz is quoted as saying, “this new project has been greatly received by all our member associations... We trust, amongst other positive aspects, that the new system will play a crucial role in raising the level of the Concacaf Champions League.”

The creation of a club licensing system is mandated by FIFA with the goal of advancing clubs at all levels.

The website also noted: “The Concacaf Club Licensing system is considered to be a long-term activity and the objective is to have it fully implemented for the 2015-2016 CONCACAF Champions League. Ultimately, Club Licensing will play a key role in supporting the development of football within the region and is anticipated to raise the level of professionalism in clubs, while improving their efficiency.

“We recognise that the implementation of this system will take time, but we have FIFA’s full support during this process,” Sanz said on the website.

Meanwhile, Look Loy described the development as “a disgrace for our football and our country as a whole,” while calling for the resignation of the administration.

“Since 2017 there have been repeated complaints about TTFA’s club licensing regime and they were ignored by the John-Williams administration. This is yet more evidence of this administration’s failure,” Look Loy said, adding, “Now, dozens of our players will be denied an international experience and the opportunity to place themselves in the international shop window. This entire administration should resign.”

Newsday attempted to reach Concacaf yesterday for more information but was unsuccessful.

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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #1000 on: March 15, 2019, 05:07:07 AM »
Doh make joke, dahis ting to resign for or have resignations demanded!

There's such a thing as oversight! Distracted dictators doh get excused.

Well, Michelle Lynch the club licensing manager was dismissed.

And yuh know she shouldn't be the last head to roll out. It appears (I'm being generous) that the people to whom she would have been responsive and accountable were asleep at the wheel.

What?! To use a political example, dis is ting ah Opposition would pong ah Government on mercilessly and with good reason.

Lehwe see how vociferous the injured parties are (particularly the North East Stars contingent).
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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #1001 on: March 15, 2019, 06:39:10 AM »
DJW sinking everybody, including his own team. He absolutely don't care. You mean to say this man don't know about the FIFA licensing. This man with Infante, the Concacaf president or whatever president he is. And you mean to say he don't know that. All he care about is the money he will get from building the house of TTFA kix-ball. Honestly John!

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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #1002 on: March 15, 2019, 05:35:56 PM »
Three T&T clubs banned by Concacaf.
By Andrew Gioannetti (Newsday).


T&T football has faced another embarrassing set-back after it was revealed following a reconvened T&T Football Association (TTFA) board meeting that the three clubs, which qualified for the 2019 Concacaf Caribbean Club Championship, have been barred by Concacaf from participating in this year’s event over a supposed failure by the association to meet the confederation’s club licensing requirements.

W Connection, North East Stars FC and Police FC all qualified for the championship by virtue of their standing at the end of the last TT Pro League season.

Board member Keith Look Loy issued a report of Wednesday’s reconvened board meeting, telling stakeholders, “Concacaf has advised TTFA that it has failed to properly implement the confederation’s club licensing regulations and programme.”

He said the TTFA’s club licensing manager has since been dismissed with a replacement pending, and that a club licensing department will be created.

On Concacaf’s website the club licensing programme is said to focus on five specific functional areas of a club, namely its infrastructure, sporting, personnel and administration, legal and finance.

Concacaf president Jeffrey Webb describes it as “an ambitious project that will surely deliver benefits to all teams in the region and will elevate the standards in all the basic functional areas of a club operation and profitability,” while the confederation’s general secretary Enrique Sanz is quoted as saying, “this new project has been greatly received by all our member associations... We trust, amongst other positive aspects, that the new system will play a crucial role in raising the level of the Concacaf Champions League.”

The creation of a club licensing system is mandated by FIFA with the goal of advancing clubs at all levels.

The website also noted: “The Concacaf Club Licensing system is considered to be a long-term activity and the objective is to have it fully implemented for the 2015-2016 CONCACAF Champions League. Ultimately, Club Licensing will play a key role in supporting the development of football within the region and is anticipated to raise the level of professionalism in clubs, while improving their efficiency.

“We recognise that the implementation of this system will take time, but we have FIFA’s full support during this process,” Sanz said on the website.

Meanwhile, Look Loy described the development as “a disgrace for our football and our country as a whole,” while calling for the resignation of the administration.

“Since 2017 there have been repeated complaints about TTFA’s club licensing regime and they were ignored by the John-Williams administration. This is yet more evidence of this administration’s failure,” Look Loy said, adding, “Now, dozens of our players will be denied an international experience and the opportunity to place themselves in the international shop window. This entire administration should resign.”

Newsday attempted to reach Concacaf yesterday for more information but was unsuccessful.


This writer is usually a bit more tuned in.

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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #1003 on: March 15, 2019, 07:45:36 PM »
Three T&T clubs banned by Concacaf.
By Andrew Gioannetti (Newsday).


T&T football has faced another embarrassing set-back after it was revealed following a reconvened T&T Football Association (TTFA) board meeting that the three clubs, which qualified for the 2019 Concacaf Caribbean Club Championship, have been barred by Concacaf from participating in this year’s event over a supposed failure by the association to meet the confederation’s club licensing requirements.

W Connection, North East Stars FC and Police FC all qualified for the championship by virtue of their standing at the end of the last TT Pro League season.

Board member Keith Look Loy issued a report of Wednesday’s reconvened board meeting, telling stakeholders, “Concacaf has advised TTFA that it has failed to properly implement the confederation’s club licensing regulations and programme.”

He said the TTFA’s club licensing manager has since been dismissed with a replacement pending, and that a club licensing department will be created.

On Concacaf’s website the club licensing programme is said to focus on five specific functional areas of a club, namely its infrastructure, sporting, personnel and administration, legal and finance.

Concacaf president Jeffrey Webb describes it as “an ambitious project that will surely deliver benefits to all teams in the region and will elevate the standards in all the basic functional areas of a club operation and profitability,” while the confederation’s general secretary Enrique Sanz is quoted as saying, “this new project has been greatly received by all our member associations... We trust, amongst other positive aspects, that the new system will play a crucial role in raising the level of the Concacaf Champions League.”

The creation of a club licensing system is mandated by FIFA with the goal of advancing clubs at all levels.

The website also noted: “The Concacaf Club Licensing system is considered to be a long-term activity and the objective is to have it fully implemented for the 2015-2016 CONCACAF Champions League. Ultimately, Club Licensing will play a key role in supporting the development of football within the region and is anticipated to raise the level of professionalism in clubs, while improving their efficiency.

“We recognise that the implementation of this system will take time, but we have FIFA’s full support during this process,” Sanz said on the website.

Meanwhile, Look Loy described the development as “a disgrace for our football and our country as a whole,” while calling for the resignation of the administration.

“Since 2017 there have been repeated complaints about TTFA’s club licensing regime and they were ignored by the John-Williams administration. This is yet more evidence of this administration’s failure,” Look Loy said, adding, “Now, dozens of our players will be denied an international experience and the opportunity to place themselves in the international shop window. This entire administration should resign.”

Newsday attempted to reach Concacaf yesterday for more information but was unsuccessful.


This writer is usually a bit more tuned in.

I think he forgot to prefix it with something like "At the time...". Basically he didn't clarify when those statements were made.
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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #1004 on: March 16, 2019, 11:01:49 PM »
UEFA started the purchase period a few days ago. Those tickets and de Copa del Rey tickets doh have a "democratic price point" ... at least not if yuh doh want de players to look like a satellite image from space.

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« Reply #1005 on: December 21, 2020, 06:03:44 PM »
LAFC beat Club America(Mexico) to reach final.

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« Reply #1007 on: April 15, 2021, 05:38:48 AM »
If we thought the Olympic qualifying experience of Haiti's Olympic team was tragic, the experience of Arcahaie FC is worse. Covid, runaway players and a GK who didn't travel who claims his passport got soaked. The first two are what they are ... But that 3rd item tempts suspicion.

And the "drama" of that opening goal.
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« Reply #1008 on: February 16, 2022, 05:29:00 AM »
Hard luck YUL. That Rommell Qioto disallowed goal was crafted artistry. Pity it was for nought.

The other match (Santos de Guapiles vs New York FC) was pedestrian and in some respects seemed familiar. It would serve as a good template for anyone struggling to identify/distinguish the differences between 'world-class' and other categories of quality.


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« Reply #1009 on: February 16, 2022, 07:38:36 AM »
Quipales were no match for NYC even though they tried their best in the latter part of the game. I started to watch the second game with the Mexican Santos, but I was too sleepy.

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« Reply #1010 on: February 16, 2022, 11:22:06 PM »
Saw Aubrey David with Sarprissa against a Mexican side. Score was 1-1 at the half. Played very well. Probably best left back we have at this moment.

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« Reply #1011 on: February 17, 2022, 11:10:35 AM »
If we thought the Olympic qualifying experience of Haiti's Olympic team was tragic, the experience of Arcahaie FC is worse. Covid, runaway players and a GK who didn't travel who claims his passport got soaked. The first two are what they are ... But that 3rd item tempts suspicion.

And the "drama" of that opening goal.

Sadly, Cavaly de Leogane has just learnt what it means to be a caribbean club, and especially one from Haiti.

Funny how CONCACAF rewards NE Revolution for the US refusal to grant entry visas to the Cavaly players! I would believe if the host country refuses to grant visas to the players of a visiting team, CONCACAF should require the host team to seek alternative venues for the games. NE Rev should have forfaited, not Cavaly.
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« Reply #1012 on: February 17, 2022, 05:45:23 PM »
If we thought the Olympic qualifying experience of Haiti's Olympic team was tragic, the experience of Arcahaie FC is worse. Covid, runaway players and a GK who didn't travel who claims his passport got soaked. The first two are what they are ... But that 3rd item tempts suspicion.

And the "drama" of that opening goal.

Sadly, Cavaly de Leogane has just learnt what it means to be a caribbean club, and especially one from Haiti.

Funny how CONCACAF rewards NE Revolution for the US refusal to grant entry visas to the Cavaly players! I would believe if the host country refuses to grant visas to the players of a visiting team, CONCACAF should require the host team to seek alternative venues for the games. NE Rev should have forfaited, not Cavaly.
Do you know what was the reason behind the visas refusals ?

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« Reply #1013 on: February 18, 2022, 02:29:26 AM »
One of the roles of a consular officer is to determine whether the visa applicant presents the risk of turning a temporary visit into an opportunity of permanence. Moreover, there is an ample body of instances in which this has happened in the face of deteriorated economic and political circumstances. Haiti is in that magician's hat. Certainly unlikely that all failed applicants are affiliates of organized criminality.

Regardless, what has commandeered my attention is that despite the issue of visa denials holding a rich legacy of impacting regional competition, I have yet to hear Caribbean sporting authority lobby for redress, pronounce on the grievance or act meaningfully to blunt CONCACAF's lack of mitigation. Not a single voice over the years.

The Regulations as written are what actually cut the throat of participant teams. Consular policy is not going to change. See 4.3 and the relevant sections on Competition. The way it plays out is harsh, but Caribbean stakeholders need to weigh-in on the rules to which they are agreeing before declaring foul at the embassy or consulate exit.
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« Reply #1014 on: February 18, 2022, 09:34:21 AM »
I have yet to hear Caribbean sporting authority lobby for redress, pronounce on the grievance or act meaningfully to blunt CONCACAF's lack of mitigation. Not a single voice over the years.

asylum, very true!!!! CFU is a real impotent or "don't really care" football organization.


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« Reply #1015 on: February 18, 2022, 02:01:01 PM »
I have yet to hear Caribbean sporting authority lobby for redress, pronounce on the grievance or act meaningfully to blunt CONCACAF's lack of mitigation. Not a single voice over the years.

asylum, very true!!!! CFU is a real impotent or "don't really care" football organization.


Agreed with both of you. Whereas countries are not going to change their visa policies, the burden to offer an alternative venue should always be on the host team. CONCACAF could have asked NE Rev to play those games in Mexico or DR.

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« Reply #1016 on: February 18, 2022, 02:56:59 PM »
I have yet to hear Caribbean sporting authority lobby for redress, pronounce on the grievance or act meaningfully to blunt CONCACAF's lack of mitigation. Not a single voice over the years.

asylum, very true!!!! CFU is a real impotent or "don't really care" football organization.


Agreed with both of you. Whereas countries are not going to change their visa policies, the burden to offer an alternative venue should always be on the host team. CONCACAF could have asked NE Rev to play those games in Mexico or DR.


Agreed with all said. But that's not what i'm understanding. I mean, especially during these restrictive border issues due to the pandemic. Is it possible that all US home games can be automatic 3 points for the home team, why bother then. Let's say Mexico goes the same route etc.. I'm a little taken aback at the lack of proper organization since all was known long in advance, 'for many years'. You mean, a set plan,' security, monitoring, arrangements, discussion, preparation' something could not have been in place ?   :bs: All Caribbean teams should pull out if the CFU doesn't address this unfair decision. Or am I speaking from a ignorant perspective. Further explanation may be necessary for me, if y'all don't mind.

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« Reply #1017 on: February 18, 2022, 03:22:28 PM »
When a team signs on to the competition, there are Regs that apply to hosting and Regs that apply to visiting. The only "gray area" is what constitutes force majeure and that [somewhat] rests within CONCACAF's discretion. Although that's the case, the Regs are worded in a way that would NOT Include visa denials as grounds for force majeure. Indeed, a visa denial under most constructions would not constitute force majeure. Think of force majeure as being invoked by an event the scale of a pandemic or an earthquake etc. It isn't triggered by poor planning. But visa denials are not necessarily about poor planning ... the applicant could have produced documentation to his/her best and planned perfectly and be denied.

The underlying issue in CONCACAF is that there is not a bilateral imposition of a visa regime and frankly no other confederation has to deal with this issue on the same scale for intra-confederation travel. Within UEFA? No. Within CONMEBOL? No. Maybe teams that face Australia have some issues but I doh think it plays out as it does vis-à-vis the US and maybe Canada. Within CAF? No.

It's a highly distorted arrangement that frustrates the purpose of national, regional and international competition. It should be revisited. We often see it as a micro issue (a club here or a player there etc.), but it is a macro problem.
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« Reply #1018 on: February 19, 2022, 01:38:55 AM »
When a team signs on to the competition, there are Regs that apply to hosting and Regs that apply to visiting. The only "gray area" is what constitutes force majeure and that [somewhat] rests within CONCACAF's discretion. Although that's the case, the Regs are worded in a way that would NOT Include visa denials as grounds for force majeure. Indeed, a visa denial under most constructions would not constitute force majeure. Think of force majeure as being invoked by an event the scale of a pandemic or an earthquake etc. It isn't triggered by poor planning. But visa denials are not necessarily about poor planning ... the applicant could have produced documentation to his/her best and planned perfectly and be denied.

The underlying issue in CONCACAF is that there is not a bilateral imposition of a visa regime and frankly no other confederation has to deal with this issue on the same scale for intra-confederation travel. Within UEFA? No. Within CONMEBOL? No. Maybe teams that face Australia have some issues but I doh think it plays out as it does vis-à-vis the US and maybe Canada. Within CAF? No.

It's a highly distorted arrangement that frustrates the purpose of national, regional and international competition. It should be revisited. We often see it as a micro issue (a club here or a player there etc.), but it is a macro problem.
Thank you..nb: the planning I referred to was Concacaf admin, not Haiti. The US Immigration service (if even correct in their operations)should not be the decider who gets the points and moves on. Concacaf should make the necessary pre or re-arrangements as required, in conjunction with the participating countries and  member associations. The current pandemic should have prepared everyone, admin and country for such unusual eventualities. What happens when Concacaf (US/Canada) host World cup. Possibly no more Mexicans we already have enough  :devil:  Everybody can come (refugees, Syrians- room and board) but not Haitian footballers, dem carrying plague. No man, Concacf could have had this under control or inform Haiti of the possibilties from the application process. So if US immigration decides no CFU teams nor Central American teams given the current state ? I think it's only fair CFU teams get equal points. therefore , all games decided in the political arena. No football. 

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Re: Concacaf Champions League Thread.
« Reply #1019 on: February 19, 2022, 08:59:15 AM »
Very true.

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