April 18, 2024, 03:33:59 PM

Author Topic: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.  (Read 83698 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline davyjenny1

  • duaneoconnor-tt.com
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 2073
    • View Profile
    • http://www.duaneoconnor-tt.com
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #480 on: July 22, 2013, 07:05:49 AM »
http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/US-defeats-El-Salvador-5-1-in-Gold-Cup-quarters-4678094.php#photo-4943380

"We are trying to catch up with the big teams in the world," Klinsmann said. "It's all about speed. I'm not talking about physical speed. I'm talking about mental speed, passing speed with every player going both ways. That's what we're working to. This is a process and I think that process is coming along."

The USSF has been working on this style of play for the past 13 years or more it is just now coming to fruition. I believe brits expats coaches are working behind the scenes to achieve the growth of football/soccer in America, they highly emphasize the game shall be built on speed. Starting with applied sports science research, optimize key factors in advance athletic performance, player development nutrition and the science of Speed to the next level.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2013, 07:07:32 AM by davyjenny1 »
The difference between the possible and
the impossible lies in a person determination.

Your Knowledge is directly related to your potential income.
 http://www.duaneoconnor-tt.com

Offline Mango Chow!

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 5720
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #481 on: July 23, 2013, 07:19:15 AM »
I agree with the both of you.  The most eye opening comment was made by the Salvadorean Coach:

"Collectively, they're a very good team," El Salvador coach Agustin Castillo said through a translator. "They almost play by memory. They can find the spaces. It almost seems like every time they pass the ball into a space it's going to nobody, then somebody appears and actually meets the ball. Good work, good movement."

  ...that what he describe there has always been the way the usa play.  They play the ball into space and whoever not passing the ball running into space. Fitness, fitness, fitness! (any complaints lately about JK and his training methods?...or did he change them to the players' liking?)


Not because a man ears long and he teet' long dat it make him a Jackass!

Offline futbolfan

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1703
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #482 on: July 23, 2013, 07:45:01 AM »
I agree with the both of you.  The most eye opening comment was made by the Salvadorean Coach:

"Collectively, they're a very good team," El Salvador coach Agustin Castillo said through a translator. "They almost play by memory. They can find the spaces. It almost seems like every time they pass the ball into a space it's going to nobody, then somebody appears and actually meets the ball. Good work, good movement."

  ...that what he describe there has always been the way the usa play.  They play the ball into space and whoever not passing the ball running into space. Fitness, fitness, fitness! (any complaints lately about JK and his training methods?...or did he change them to the players' liking?)

Winning cures all ills...The US are  doing what they are supposed to do, and that is to destroy mediocre opponents. All that said, if they don't make it to the GC finals or get embarrassed as they did in the past 2 finals, Klinsmann's methods and tactics will be up for debate again.
To me there are no significant differences with how this team is playing now than they did under Bradley. All this team speed talk is a moot point until they get 1 or 2 players who are game changers. I am not here to compare both teams, but Brazil is nothing to write home about, but having Neymar and to some extent Oscar changes things quite a bit...
The darkest hour is just before the dawn.

Offline OutsideMan

  • Many bad things. *Sips Scotch*
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1015
  • SocaWarrior4Life
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #483 on: July 23, 2013, 01:26:46 PM »
I agree with the both of you.  The most eye opening comment was made by the Salvadorean Coach:

"Collectively, they're a very good team," El Salvador coach Agustin Castillo said through a translator. "They almost play by memory. They can find the spaces. It almost seems like every time they pass the ball into a space it's going to nobody, then somebody appears and actually meets the ball. Good work, good movement."

This has been the type of football that I've been advocating for over 10 years for T&T to play ---- passing the ball not necessarily directly to the man's feet, but instead passing it into the space for the man to run into and collect, in the offensive 3rd. 

This is what we saw a good sparkle of in the game against Honduras last week.   Molino was making some real devious passes into the space, though KJ muffed most of the opportunities.  We work on those plays more-often where it becomes almost 2nd-nature to us, then we could be a threat to anyone we play...ANYONE. 
The dumbest people on earth are generally located in comment sections of websites all over the world.

Offline Mango Chow!

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 5720
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #484 on: July 24, 2013, 01:22:35 AM »
I agree with the both of you.  The most eye opening comment was made by the Salvadorean Coach:

"Collectively, they're a very good team," El Salvador coach Agustin Castillo said through a translator. "They almost play by memory. They can find the spaces. It almost seems like every time they pass the ball into a space it's going to nobody, then somebody appears and actually meets the ball. Good work, good movement."

  ...that what he describe there has always been the way the usa play.  They play the ball into space and whoever not passing the ball running into space. Fitness, fitness, fitness! (any complaints lately about JK and his training methods?...or did he change them to the players' liking?)

Winning cures all ills...The US are  doing what they are supposed to do, and that is to destroy mediocre opponents. All that said, if they don't make it to the GC finals or get embarrassed as they did in the past 2 finals, Klinsmann's methods and tactics will be up for debate again.
To me there are no significant differences with how this team is playing now than they did under Bradley. All this team speed talk is a moot point until they get 1 or 2 players who are game changers.

Agreed!



Not because a man ears long and he teet' long dat it make him a Jackass!

Offline Flex

  • Administrator
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 18065
  • A Trini 4 Real.
    • View Profile
    • Soca Warriors Online
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #485 on: July 24, 2013, 02:22:26 PM »
El Salvador to probe match-fixing
July 24, 2013
By ESPN Staff


Based on comments El Salvador captain Victor Turcios made to ESPN Deportes on Sunday alleging match-fixing in his country, the El Salvador Football Federation (FESFUT, by its Spanish acronym) said it will request a meeting with Turcios.

"Our team is implicated in match-fixing, and we can't hide from it," Turcios told ESPN Deportes. "At this [Gold] Cup, there was the pressure of the match-fixing. FIFA is investigating our federation. They are watching every time a goal is scored because there is match-fixing and we can't hide from it. If FIFA is investigating our federation, it is because something is happening."

El Salvador was eliminated from Gold Cup 2013 play Sunday following a 5-1 loss to the United States. Turcios made his comments at that match. During first-round action earlier this month, two Belize players said they were offered money to fix a Gold Cup match against the United States. FIFA and CONCACAF said the man trying to fix the matches has since been identified. FIFA investigated reports of fixed matches at the 2011 Gold Cup as well.

FESFUT said via press release Tuesday that it would remain "firm in the fight against match-fixing" and that it would ask Turcios to pass along any information he might have, clarifying that it is "not a witch hunt against the players" but rather a way to solve any corruption problems that may exist.

Ernesto Gochez, a FESFUT national team coordinator, said the federation "suggested" that former coach Juan de Dios Castillo leave a player off the national team for 2012 friendlies versus Jamaica and Guatemala. The player, whom Castillo named in an ESPN Deportes "E:60" interview in November as Jose Mardoqueo Henriquez, was suspected of match-fixing, although nothing was ever proved. FESFUT allowed Henriquez to be included on the team for a July 24, 2012, match versus Roma in New Jersey, but Gochez said Tuesday that FESFUT recommended Henriquez be left off the team until the "waves subsided." Henriquez played for El Salvador in Gold Cup 2013.

"For El Salvador, we have read reports but we have no evidence. But we are investigating with FIFA and Interpol. We want any players who are offered match-fixing to do the same thing the Belize players did, report it," said CONCACAF general secretary Enrique Sainz last week. "We are asking any players who are approached to report it immediately.

"Match-fixing is not always the result. Sometimes they convince the players to have a corner kick in the first 15 minutes. Sometimes it seems innocent, but it is not. Lots of life situations start with small deceptions and then grow. But we are stressing that any situation must be stopped. We want also to have the protocol in place so people can report it. In the American continent, we have the doors closed and it is tougher to fix matches in this region."

The real measure of a man's character is what he would do if he knew he would never be found out.

Offline OutsideMan

  • Many bad things. *Sips Scotch*
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1015
  • SocaWarrior4Life
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #486 on: July 24, 2013, 05:14:02 PM »
Hoping Honduras kicks USA's OVERRATED ass in this game.
The dumbest people on earth are generally located in comment sections of websites all over the world.

Offline OutsideMan

  • Many bad things. *Sips Scotch*
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1015
  • SocaWarrior4Life
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #487 on: July 24, 2013, 05:17:10 PM »
STEUPPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The dumbest people on earth are generally located in comment sections of websites all over the world.

Offline Deeks

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 18647
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #488 on: July 24, 2013, 05:17:57 PM »
Great goal by Johnson. 1-0 US of A!

Offline Bakes

  • Promethean...
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 21980
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #489 on: July 24, 2013, 05:20:11 PM »
I can't stand Donovan... but he doing the business since his return to the team.  Nice assist, clinical finish for Johnson.

EDIT:  ...and now a goal.  Ah well, time to see what's on Discovery Channel.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2013, 05:34:06 PM by Bakes »

Offline Brownsugar

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 10179
  • Soca in mih veins, Soca in mih blood!!
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #490 on: July 24, 2013, 05:36:36 PM »
I can't stand Donovan... but he doing the business since his return to the team.  Nice assist, clinical finish for Johnson.

EDIT:  ...and now a goal.  Ah well, time to see what's on Discovery Channel.

Ent!!!  Steups!!  My alternative is last night's re-run of the Daily Show....damn Yankees!!!  :cursing: :frustrated: :puking:
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

RIP Shadow....The legend will live on in music...

Offline Banter Banton

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 634
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #491 on: July 24, 2013, 05:53:38 PM »
what USA national team do to allyuh to have you guys so angry ?

Offline OutsideMan

  • Many bad things. *Sips Scotch*
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1015
  • SocaWarrior4Life
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #492 on: July 24, 2013, 05:59:22 PM »
I can't stand Donovan... but he doing the business since his return to the team.  Nice assist, clinical finish for Johnson.

EDIT:  ...and now a goal.  Ah well, time to see what's on Discovery Channel.

I cannot stand Donovan also. 
The dumbest people on earth are generally located in comment sections of websites all over the world.

Offline Banter Banton

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 634
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #493 on: July 24, 2013, 06:02:44 PM »
I can't stand Donovan... but he doing the business since his return to the team.  Nice assist, clinical finish for Johnson.

EDIT:  ...and now a goal.  Ah well, time to see what's on Discovery Channel.

I cannot stand Donovan also.

why ? because he is a good footballer ?   or another reason ?

Offline Peong

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 7414
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #494 on: July 24, 2013, 06:09:19 PM »
what USA national team do to allyuh to have you guys so angry ?

Nov 19th

Offline OutsideMan

  • Many bad things. *Sips Scotch*
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1015
  • SocaWarrior4Life
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #495 on: July 24, 2013, 06:12:27 PM »
what USA national team do to allyuh to have you guys so angry ?

Nov 19th

November 19th, 1989.  A day that will live in INFAMY!  >:(
The dumbest people on earth are generally located in comment sections of websites all over the world.

Offline OutsideMan

  • Many bad things. *Sips Scotch*
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1015
  • SocaWarrior4Life
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #496 on: July 24, 2013, 06:13:16 PM »
Plus they overrated.
The dumbest people on earth are generally located in comment sections of websites all over the world.

Offline OutsideMan

  • Many bad things. *Sips Scotch*
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1015
  • SocaWarrior4Life
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #497 on: July 24, 2013, 06:14:13 PM »
GOAL!!!!!!! HONDURAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    ;D
The dumbest people on earth are generally located in comment sections of websites all over the world.

Offline Deeks

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 18647
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #498 on: July 24, 2013, 06:15:01 PM »
Hondo pull back one. Great header!

Offline OutsideMan

  • Many bad things. *Sips Scotch*
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1015
  • SocaWarrior4Life
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #499 on: July 24, 2013, 06:15:35 PM »
BIG STEUPPES!!!!!   JEEZ!!!!!!   :cursing:

lmao
The dumbest people on earth are generally located in comment sections of websites all over the world.

Offline Deeks

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 18647
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #500 on: July 24, 2013, 06:16:02 PM »
WTF with Hondo backline!!!?!!?

Offline Peong

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 7414
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #501 on: July 24, 2013, 06:16:35 PM »
lol Donovan not makin joke tonight.  That was a nice assist.

Offline OutsideMan

  • Many bad things. *Sips Scotch*
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1015
  • SocaWarrior4Life
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #502 on: July 24, 2013, 06:18:13 PM »
 :bs: call
The dumbest people on earth are generally located in comment sections of websites all over the world.

Offline Deeks

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 18647
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #503 on: July 24, 2013, 06:19:48 PM »
Them back 4 wuss than our back 4 ??!!??

Offline Brownsugar

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 10179
  • Soca in mih veins, Soca in mih blood!!
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #504 on: July 24, 2013, 06:23:21 PM »
Plus they overrated.

If again.....I doesn't could wait for World Cup to come around so they could get put back in dey place!!.... :cursing:
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

RIP Shadow....The legend will live on in music...

Offline OutsideMan

  • Many bad things. *Sips Scotch*
  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 1015
  • SocaWarrior4Life
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #505 on: July 24, 2013, 06:24:20 PM »
Plus they overrated.

If again.....I doesn't could wait for World Cup to come around so they could get put back in dey place!!.... :cursing:

Same here!  :rotfl:
The dumbest people on earth are generally located in comment sections of websites all over the world.

Offline Bitter

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 9689
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #506 on: July 24, 2013, 06:31:06 PM »
I can't stand Donovan... but he doing the business since his return to the team.  Nice assist, clinical finish for Johnson.

EDIT:  ...and now a goal.  Ah well, time to see what's on Discovery Channel.

Naked and Afraid.
Which describes the Honduras back line.
Bitter is a supercalifragilistic tic-tac-pro

Offline Bitter

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 9689
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #507 on: July 24, 2013, 06:35:42 PM »
The US have Honduras chasing shadows when they have the ball and not giving them a moment's rest when they don't.

One of the benefits of having such a large squad available for a tournament.

If allyuh waiting for the world cup for them to get beat, remember - this is the B squad.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2013, 06:37:25 PM by Bitter »
Bitter is a supercalifragilistic tic-tac-pro

Offline Banter Banton

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 634
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #508 on: July 24, 2013, 06:37:21 PM »
what USA national team do to allyuh to have you guys so angry ?

Nov 19th

November 19th, 1989.  A day that will live in INFAMY!  >:(


Or ok so because a football team did their job scored a goal and took 3 points away

That date gives the fans who Hate the USA football team an excuse to mask their true reason


Offline Deeks

  • Hero Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 18647
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup Thread.
« Reply #509 on: July 24, 2013, 06:39:48 PM »
what USA national team do to allyuh to have you guys so angry ?

Nov 19th

November 19th, 1989.  A day that will live in INFAMY!  >:(


Or ok so because a football team did their job scored a goal and took 3 points away

That date gives the fans who Hate the USA football team an excuse to mask their true reason



actually. Yes. Human nature!!!!!

 

1]; } ?>