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« Reply #210 on: January 23, 2013, 10:49:37 AM »
He have a right to say that after what Sandy said...dais racist
After A politician making those kinda comments ... expect him to just smile and say "that's alright...he apologized...twice!"


when he jack talk shit about no indians in the section 34 march dat was racist too....let sat haul he fat fascist modder c**t

Sat is an extremist and ain't no politician.

Sandy could haul he racist c**t....man so dotish and ignorant, Calcutta not even used anymore since 2001, is Kolkata....
TnT is a real joke yes...go PNM!
Not overtly but clearly he has the ear of those who are.

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« Reply #211 on: January 23, 2013, 11:06:14 AM »
He have a right to say that after what Sandy said...dais racist
After A politician making those kinda comments ... expect him to just smile and say "that's alright...he apologized...twice!"


when he jack talk shit about no indians in the section 34 march dat was racist too....let sat haul he fat fascist modder c**t

Sat is an extremist and ain't no politician.

disingenuous and convenient, he  in a position of influence and his views ah are transmitted as the views of those he represents, same boat, come again!

Fair enough, but I ain't defending either...
Sandy been preaching racism behind doors like a coward, and finally his racist self get shown. 

It going to get a lot worse before things get better.  Seems T20 team is the only platform where the 2 largest ethnic groups get along and succeed.
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« Reply #212 on: January 23, 2013, 11:06:35 AM »
He have a right to say that after what Sandy said...dais racist
After A politician making those kinda comments ... expect him to just smile and say "that's alright...he apologized...twice!"


when he jack talk shit about no indians in the section 34 march dat was racist too....let sat haul he fat fascist modder c**t

Sat is an extremist and ain't no politician.

Sandy could haul he racist c**t....man so dotish and ignorant, Calcutta not even used anymore since 2001, is Kolkata....
TnT is a real joke yes...go PNM!

Come nah man!!! Think! Sandy's comments were reproduced in the press as "Calcutta". His words were delivered in spoken comments. Address that concern with the press.

That aside, I agree that an inference of racism is appropriate here. 
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« Reply #213 on: January 23, 2013, 11:18:47 AM »
A divisive campaign based on race and politics is a volatile mixture. Unifying the country has become paramount if we are to move forward in the name of progress. If either of the major parties claim victory, there will always appear to be a tainted bias and an underlying blanket of ethnic divide.

As witnessed in this last election; when strategic maneuvers is framed as promises of autonomy it only begs the question  that the old mentality of divide and conquer is still evident in our present governance.  There would have been much to gain by certain fractions if Tobago was to separate political ties from Trinidad. For one, it would reduce the potential of  number of seats for any other party other that the  ones held by our present government. With Tobago out of the picture, Trinidad would be further carved and slaughtered up with political and  ethnic divide. It is sad to witness the degree of how our nationhood has evolved in 50 years!!!!!!!!!!

George Orwell's ' Animal Farm' a minute novel  with gigantic overtones must be a mandatory read for all those in the present government. Rules change ( 34) , propaganda runs wild and  double speak  are the order of the day.  Machiavellian decree has also become the norm- shame shame  shame on the way in which  those entrusted to govern  are transforming our beloved nation.   

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« Reply #214 on: January 23, 2013, 11:30:27 AM »
It going to get a lot worse before things get better.  Seems T20 team is the only platform where the 2 largest ethnic groups get along and succeed.

THE fact of the matter is............this idea dat if yuh doh like d shit dat going on and yuh send that message some how yuh doh like indian, d pnm and manning get nuff blows right here from the people dat labelled as pnm, but when d tables turn, when shit going on.........all of ah sudden is man doh like indian.............dais madness, last I checked nigger and coolie shit does smell stink d same way........why we should accept d shit from the latter when we did vex wit d former............dat attitude jus plain wrong
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« Reply #215 on: January 23, 2013, 12:07:00 PM »
The Calcutta or whatever way it is spelt in 2013 is what u Yanks say was not politically correct but the reason he did not suffer for the statements is because a large percentage of the poulace feel that way.

1 of my yutes in church went Tbgo last week with her friends from high school they all scatter around d 3 campuses of UWI. So they wanted to go Pigeon Point approach taxi driver x he wanted 100 approach taxi driver y he offered to do the job for 70. of course they went wit taxi driver y. Taxi Driver take a turn in them how all yuh go do me that when y peeps come they does only travel wit y I woulda drop the price for all yuh. D child was stunned

So people lost no sleep over Sandy statement. So let see if Sat boycott plea will be successful.
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« Reply #216 on: January 23, 2013, 12:08:05 PM »
On the new awakening  Radio Jaagriti 102.7 FM Sat was in a complete rage and is demanding a FULL INDIAN pull out of Tobago and claims Tobagonians are Racists for Rejecting Kamla. He says Indians have no place in Tobago.

by indian he mean hindu

Until ASJA or TML come out and say is hindu he referring to I will say Indian.
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« Reply #217 on: January 23, 2013, 02:52:27 PM »
Not downplaying Sanday's statement. I think that is the general sentiment of a substantial amount of Tobagonians towards Trinidadians, ever since Eric and ANR fell out. Tobago and Trini were buddy buddy until it was alleged ANR tried to usurp the DOC. After that Robbie formed DAC and then the mutual  distrust started. Tobago going NE and TT going SW.

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« Reply #218 on: January 23, 2013, 03:31:42 PM »
Sat is an extremist and ain't no politician.

Sandy could haul he racist c**t....man so dotish and ignorant, Calcutta not even used anymore since 2001, is Kolkata....
TnT is a real joke yes...go PNM!

So Sat "have a right" to say what he say... because he's ah extremist and not a politician?  Interesting.  Clearly Sandy ent de only racist it have around.  "ProudTrinbagonian" yuh calling yuhself? lol...

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« Reply #219 on: January 23, 2013, 03:43:26 PM »
http://www.ctntworld.com/index.php/2011-12-27-04-09-23/3418-unc-statement-tha-election-results-why-tobago-lost

The results of the THA election reflect how palpable the notion of fear among the African population can be. With very little to show from a party they have supported; a party that has neglected and overlooked them, Tobagonians still chose to remain with their political abusers.


All the PNM had to do was resort to their age old tactic of instilling fear that some other group would take away the little they had and the tribal instincts did the rest. Note that the PNM did not seek nor have to seek showing Tobagonians how much they gave to Tobago for the answer to that was some 22 billion dollars and nothing to show.

The PNM didn't have to sell any vision of a better life for Tobagonians. Their theme was simply that "a Calcutta ship" was coming for them and so they needed to stand in defence of Tobago. That was it. Fear trumped a better future.

Now what? Will Tobagonians be better off with the proven failure of the PNM? It is the same reason why Laventille with so little given by past PNM administrations would yet support the party regardless. The tribe is all they have been convinced is needed to be protected.

So the task for us is large. It is about emancipation from mental slavery. How do we allay the fears of those who have been duped for so long? How can we get them to understand that the appeal to tribal instincts alone with nothing else in the offing is not in their best interest? How can we encourage them to look for more from their leaders? How can we inspire their self-determination?
 
And also, how can we improve on our own message? The time has come for introspection on how we are perceived? These are the matters which we will deliberate upon and use to get people to unite against those who do not represent them but imprison them by using fear and tribalism even in this day and age when a black man, with the name Barack Hussein Obama, has just been inaugurated as the 44th President of the United States.

It is time for us to revisit how we achieve the liberation of our people from the insularity they have been captive to for far too long. We are all in this together.

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« Reply #220 on: January 23, 2013, 03:44:26 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/notes/kamla-persad-bissessar/prime-ministers-statement-on-tobago-election-results/10151661511222846

Office of The Prime Minister

Prime Ministers statement:

 

The people have spoken.This has been a tough political battle and the choice for Tobagonians between change and a perpetuation of an administration which has been in place for twelve years. Tobagonians, in an overwhelming majority chose to stay with the Orville London led THA. And as I have always said, the voice of the people, is the voice of God.I wish to extend congratulations to Mr London and the PNM for the resounding victory secured at the THA polls.I assure Mr London and Tobagonians that the central government will work with the THA in the interest of developing Tobago for the benefit of all.

 

To our own supporters I say do not despair, in the words of poet Maya Angelou, "while one may encounter many defeats, one must not be defeated." There is much to be learnt from this and from which strong character can emerge. It is a time for introspection and resolve. A time to gather valuable insights that will serve us well in the months and years ahead.

 

To each of you who worked tirelessly, I express my heartfelt gratitude. Somewhere down the road your efforts will bring you the returns and the victory will be sweeter. But for now let us be mindful that the election is over. Let us put aside our political differences and embrace each other. All that matters now is the development of Tobago which we will work together to develop. May God bless our nation and may God bless you all.End

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« Reply #221 on: January 23, 2013, 03:52:27 PM »
http://www.southasianoutlook.com/issues/2005/may/indocarib0409.html
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Indians in T&T form a clear majority but continue to be treated like a minority! The State undertook a national census in 2000. Census Day was heavily advertised as June 8. The Maha Sabha advised all Hindus and the general population to fully co-operate with personnel conducting this important exercise.

 

To date, the data collected have not been made available to the general population. The Maha Sabha suspects that there is political interference to suppress the data because the data must direct the expenditures and other State inputs into areas that reflect growth. Population growth demands additional social facilities.

 

This census information is to see what areas of the country need what. If a town or district has more children living in it than it had ten years ago, then this will be a place that needs a school. If workers in the cities are spending too much time getting to work because they are stuck in traffic, then it will be necessary to build more roads.

 

The critical census data will also point to the ethnic composition and could force the politicians to rethink their efforts of imposing a state culture on the majority population.

 

The US conducted a nationwide census that was more complex than the T&T census. This exercise conducted on April 1, 2000, also marked 210 years since the first census was taken in that country.

 

According to US publications, its 2000 census has grown to be a sophisticated tool. It not only counted the population but also “sampled the socio-economic status of the population, providing a tool for government, educators, business owners and others to get a snapshot of the state of the nation.”

 

In T&T, the politicians in charge are deliberating about withholding publication of the 2000 census results to deny the population “a snapshot of the state of the nation.”

 

The secret numbers and other data of census 2000 are held in the Ministry of Planning and Development at its Statistical Office, National Statistical Building, 80 Independence Square, Port-of-Spain. They cannot be published because finance is not being made available.

 

The Maha Sabha, however, was able to access what has been described as “response data.” The data does not help businessmen or religious groups to make decisions, but we were able to extract the racial composition of T&T, according to age, sex and ethnic origin in the various geographical areas.

 

We now understand why the numbers are being deliberately withheld from the people of T&T. It is because they reflect the rising Indian population and the falling African population. The African population is a minority in T&T and if Tobago is excluded, its minority status becomes more pronounced.

 

According to the 2000 response census data, the total population of T&T was 1,114,772. The three major ethnic groups listed are Africans, Indians and mixed.

 

The Indian population in T&T is 40.03 per cent, while the African population fell by more than two per cent to 37.5 per cent. The mixed rose to 20.46 per cent and the other groups just around two per cent.

 

An examination of the census data from 1980, 1990 and 2000 shows that despite heavy migration to North America by Indians under the regime of ANR Robinson’s National Alliance for Reconstruction (NAR, 1986-1991), the Indian percentage of the population has held steady.

 

In 1980 it was 40.7 per cent, in 1990, 40.3 per cent and in 2000, 40.03 per cent.

 

On the other hand, the African population was 40.8 per cent in 1980, in 1990, 39.6 per cent and in 2000, 37.5 per cent.

 

The mixed population seemed to have benefited from the African drop. In 1980, it was 16.3 per cent; 1990, 18.4 per cent and in 2000, it jumped by two per cent to 20.46 per cent.

 

Dr Morgan Job has been attempting to influence the people of Tobago to seek a federal relationship with Trinidad. He even advocates outright independence. I say let the 44,190 go independent if they wish or, for that matter, let them join a federal relationship with Grenada and let Morgan Job be president.

 

The result will make the African population of Trinidad a smaller minority by another two per cent. With the Tobago figure taken out of the 2000 census figures, the Indian majority will climb to 41.85 per cent while the African will slip to 35.04 per cent.

 

These census figures that are being suppressed have serious implications for the disbursement of funds for education, culture, regional development and other State realignments.

 

Failure to respond to these new figures will surely witness appeals to the international community for economic, cultural and other interventions.



 
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« Reply #222 on: January 23, 2013, 03:53:30 PM »
http://southasianoutlook.com/issues/2007/may/call_for_mixed_communities_in_tobago.html

Prime Minister Patrick Manning exposed the naked underbelly of his ruling party’s continued affirmative action programme when the PNM political leader stated the following: “The Government has taken the decision to increase that to 18,000 lots to ensure that we have a mixed development and that no one category of person is on any parcel of land.” He was referring to part of the settlement of housing lots to sugar workers who became redundant when Caroni (1975) Ltd was closed down.

“The experts will tell you that as you do housing these days, and the Minister of Housing is here, the way you do it is you ensure that the development is mixed, and as we do our developments here in Trinidad it is a policy and philosophy to which we will continue to subscribe, ensuring that the diversity of the country is represented on those parcels of land and that the communities that emerge as a consequence will be communities that represent the national diversity, represent people from all walks of life, people of different backgrounds,” concluded Mr Manning.

Whatever the PNM spin doctors Jerry Narace or Ministers Rowley and Robinson-Regis may say via press releases or legal threats in an attempt to control the ethnic damage done by the Prime Minister, the racial agenda of the PNM has already been let out of the bag.

The assertion that the lands of Caroni will be given to the supporters of the PNM is camouflaged by the code words “mixed communities.” This is a continuation of the affirmative action policies of Cepep, Must, Hype, UTT, Swmcol, scholarships and other activities that are shaded from the public glare.

Indo-Trinidadians have always believed that there is an ethnic agenda with regards to many aspects of the Government’s distribution of the largesse of the State but none was as blatant as the distribution of the homes under the National Housing Authority (Home Development Corporation). The statement of the Prime Minister now confirms that the Government openly supports an ethnic quota system in the distribution of houses and land.

Those who pedal historical inaccuracies to advance an ethnic agenda fail to observe that Central Trinidad is already a mixed community as is much of the nation.

In Caroni (1975) Ltd, approximately 33 per cent of the employees were Afro-Trinidadian workers located in the factories and management while the Indo-Trinidadians were in the fields. Rudranath Indarsingh, president general of the Sugar Estates and Factory Workers Trade Union, confirmed the 33 per cent Afro figure is near accurate. In all pleas for the Government to distribute the Caroni lands, the call was for the former workers to benefit from such distribution. At no time has any organisation or political or social entity propagated that such distribution be based on race.

The Prime Minister should also take a close examination of his party’s track record of building communities in T&T. In its 40-year history, the governments artificially engineered several communities like Beetham Gardens, Maloney Gardens, Pleasantville and La Horquetta. These are not areas that the average citizen is willing to reside.

This unwillingness applies to current residents of these housing schemes. The PNM Government has no experience in creating communities, but it is expert at creating ghettos. In these ghettos residents from Laventille, John John, Never Dirty, small islanders and other PNM vote banks are relocated in certain constituencies for an electoral advantage.

This advantage is often to the detriment of the existing community as often crime and other anti-social activities are imported with the new residents. Arima with its mixed community was traumatised when the PNM created a housing scheme in Malabar for electoral reasons.

Citizens regularly relocate from one area to another with ease. In Chaguanas the present demographics show that Afro-Trinidadians constitute approximately 35 per cent of the total population. There was no political or racial agenda in this natural movement of our people within the nation.

Should the Manning government pursue its mixed communities agenda in Central Trinidad, the Maha Sabha will expect that the Government will declare a similar intention to create mixed communities in Tobago, Westmoorings, Port-of-Spain, Diego Martin, and other elitist areas.

Tobago has been particularly hostile to the Indo-Trinidadian community with the Tobago House of Assembly refusing to allow the Maha Sabha to construct a mandir on lands we bought on the island over five years ago. But churches are funded and allowed to flourish.

The THA also promoted a gospel concert on the island while refusing to fund a kirtan concert. This is now a court matter. It refuses to establish a cremation site or a crematorium to facilitate the disposal of the dead according to our ancestral rites.

Tobagonians migrate to Trinidad and are entitled to the best jobs to which they are qualified. They are free to move to any area and establish a home. They must understand that Tobago does not belong to them alone and the people of Central Trinidad must share in prestigious housing estates like Bon Accord.

[Devant "Parsuram" Maharaj is an Executive Member of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha Inc. [SDMS] - the largest Hindu body on the island. in 2002 Maharaj was appointed the SDMS Delegate to the Inter-Religious Organization [IRO] of Trinidad & Tobago.

In 1996 Devant along with Kamal Persad began the first Indian oriented radio talk show called "The Hindu View Point" which ran for 2 years on 91.1 FM. Recently in 2002 Maharaj has been appointed President of Global Organization for People of Indian Organization [GOPIO] Chapter.
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« Reply #223 on: January 23, 2013, 03:56:16 PM »



Knew it would get nasty. :banginghead:
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« Reply #224 on: January 23, 2013, 04:14:27 PM »
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« Reply #225 on: January 23, 2013, 04:16:18 PM »
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« Reply #226 on: January 23, 2013, 04:29:23 PM »
Lemme guess ... not a twin.

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« Reply #227 on: January 23, 2013, 09:09:16 PM »


Damn Straight. I endorse both pics. LOL

I don't have either t-shirts but went to 2 TOP and 1 PNM meeting/rally. Much of the same from either camp. One was just always fighting to keep it's message geared towards a Tobago audience.

BUT...
 Lemme ask this question. Is it possible that Mr. Ashworth Jack was set up by the PP gov't? Could they have done this in order to get rid of Ashworth so they can have even more influence on the TOP?

Thoughts?

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« Reply #228 on: January 23, 2013, 09:17:15 PM »
... Depends on who leaked the house invoices to the press.?

However, I would say "no". De PP invested in him fully and the playbook was doomed. Put it this way, PP sabotage of Jack would have meant a strategy that featured fewer prominent public associations with Jack by Kamla. Yuh could answer the question another way too, but ... even that way would feature no short to medium term political gain for the PP. Answer=no sabotage.

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« Reply #229 on: January 23, 2013, 09:40:38 PM »
It is also possible they did a risk assessment of the campaign and was handed a gift from Sandy. it's the only thing they've talked about since the election concluded. Cementing their 'base' voters while allowing the TOP to practically die a painful death. We've known politics to bring about strange theories. Just throwing it out there.
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« Reply #230 on: January 23, 2013, 10:08:02 PM »
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« Reply #231 on: January 23, 2013, 10:45:31 PM »
So people lost no sleep over Sandy statement. So let see if Sat boycott plea will be successful.

Boycott what? Black people own anything TT?

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« Reply #232 on: January 23, 2013, 11:01:07 PM »
It is also possible they did a risk assessment of the campaign and was handed a gift from Sandy. it's the only thing they've talked about since the election concluded. Cementing their 'base' voters while allowing the TOP to practically die a painful death. We've known politics to bring about strange theories. Just throwing it out there.

Practical strategy by the PP, albeit ethically wanting. However, the PNM's lack of distancing from Sandy facilitated this. I get that making Sandy step down would have opened an internal fissure, but keeping him ensured a chasm on the national stage as far as race.

(This election result need not mean that the TOP dies or is dead. It should mean that Ashworth Jack is consigned to a political graveyard for some time ... preferably permanently).

The lack of sophistication by the PP in this election makes one wonder about the game plan for the General Election.
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« Reply #233 on: January 23, 2013, 11:14:28 PM »
So people lost no sleep over Sandy statement. So let see if Sat boycott plea will be successful.

Boycott what? Black people own anything TT?

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« Reply #234 on: January 23, 2013, 11:18:56 PM »
It is also possible they did a risk assessment of the campaign and was handed a gift from Sandy. it's the only thing they've talked about since the election concluded. Cementing their 'base' voters while allowing the TOP to practically die a painful death. We've known politics to bring about strange theories. Just throwing it out there.

Practical strategy by the PP. (This election result need not mean that the TOP dies or is dead. It should mean that Ashworth Jack is consigned to a political graveyard for some time ... preferably permanently).

The lack of sophistication by the PP in this election makes one wonder about the game plan for the General Election.



They have 1 plan d statement by d Chairman sayin is race y they lost indicates it will b business as usual. I said it b4 Rowley eh hv 2 do nutten and d PM chair is his. D Central posse will vote 4 them as they usually do. Rowley just hv 2 work hard in the marginals. Jack and his croonies take clueless 2 new heights.
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« Reply #235 on: January 24, 2013, 04:18:14 AM »
Warner: 'Tribal' votes
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Warner___Tribal__votes-188143551.html

United National Congress (UNC) chairman and National Security Minister Jack Warner has said the people of Tobago voted on the basis of "tribal instincts" and the fear that a "Calcutta" ship was coming.

In a statement issued yesterday in his capacity as UNC chairman, Warner said: "The results of the THA (Tobago House of Assembly) election reflect how palpable the notion of fear among the African population can be. With very little to show from a party they have supported; a party that has neglected and overlooked them, Tobagonians still chose to remain with their political abusers."

Warner said all the People's National Movement (PNM) had to do was "resort to their age-old tactic of instilling fear that some other group would take away the little they had, and the tribal instincts did the rest".

Noting that there was nothing to show for the $22 billion spent by the PNM THA, Warner said the PNM did not seek nor did not have to seek to show Tobagonainss how much they gave to Tobago.

He said the PNM did not have to sell any vision of a better life for Tobagonians. "Their theme was simply that 'a Calcutta ship' was coming for them and so they needed to stand in defence of Tobago. That was it. Fear trumped a better future," Warner stated.

"It is the same reason why Laventille, with so little given by past PNM administrations, would yet support the party regardless. The tribe is all they have been convinced is needed to be protected," he said.

Warner said the task of "emancipation from mental slavery" is large. "How can we get them to understand that the appeal to tribal instincts alone with nothing else in the offing is not in their best interest? How can we encourage them to look for more from their leaders? How can we inspire their self-determination?" he said.

He said the time had come for introspection on "how we are perceived". He said there was a need to unite people against those "who do not represent them, but imprison them by using fear and tribalism even in this day and age when a black man, with the name Barack Hussein Obama, has just been inaugurated as the 44th President of the United States...

"It is time for us to revisit how we achieve the liberation of our people from the insularity they have been captive to, for far too long. We are all in this together. Good luck Tobago and congratulations to all the winners," he said.

Congress of the People chairman Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan, speaking in a telephone interview last night, said she did not think Tobagonians voted on the basis of race.

She said it was more an issue of the Tobago Organisation of the People maintaining a separate identity while being part of the People's Partnership coalition.

She said Tobago had always demonstrated it would vote for a party that would support its autonomy and would not compromise its interests. "I don't believe it was an issue of race. It was an issue of identity," she said
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« Reply #236 on: January 24, 2013, 04:21:47 AM »



Knew it would get nasty. :banginghead:
This is what you callin nasty?? :heehee:

breds i leave trinidad 27 yrs now, and i tellin you this iz nothing new, neither is it anything close to nasty. i worked in piarco  airport in 1983, and i swear, if you ever went into that bathroom in our airport, you would have seen somethings to make your flesh crawl.

in the main terminal building there was graffiti all the walls with all kinda nigger references, and yuh dun know piarco is indian town, most of the workers there were 75% indian, and they were very evil and dastardly!

i can't begin to tell you how hateful these folks was! there was one time in my life after that experience i never wanted to be around indian ppl ever again, but then you does come and meet some kind solid ppl to change that perception, and could bring things back into prospective.

i met quite ah few solid indian ppl who were the salt of the earth, luckily for me they came around in the nik of time and change my perception, or else i would be as dumb as the bigots them who go around viewing life on a superficial skin deep level.

this is nothing new bourbon, nor is it as nasty as it could get, i'm definitely not surprised.
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« Reply #237 on: January 24, 2013, 07:38:34 AM »



Knew it would get nasty. :banginghead:
This is what you callin nasty?? :heehee:

breds i leave trinidad 27 yrs now, and i tellin you this iz nothing new, neither is it anything close to nasty. i worked in piarco  airport in 1983, and i swear, if you ever went into that bathroom in our airport, you would have seen somethings to make your flesh crawl.

in the main terminal building there was graffiti all the walls with all kinda nigger references, and yuh dun know piarco is indian town, most of the workers there were 75% indian, and they were very evil and dastardly!

i can't begin to tell you how hateful these folks was! there was one time in my life after that experience i never wanted to be around indian ppl ever again, but then you does come and meet some kind solid ppl to change that perception, and could bring things back into prospective.

i met quite ah few solid indian ppl who were the salt of the earth, luckily for me they came around in the nik of time and change my perception, or else i would be as dumb as the bigots them who go around viewing life on a superficial skin deep level.

this is nothing new bourbon, nor is it as nasty as it could get, i'm definitely not surprised.


Nope I know it could get worse. I just saying...if this degree of emotion AFTER the election....from someone who isnt even Tobagonian (cause she said she would never visit) means people toting some heavy feelings for what ever reason. Its not to say that they would be directly affected by Tobago's decision...its not a General Election. So why all this? How come it so easy to resort to racist vitrol like that yet on the other hand condemning a statement that was branded racist yet at least could be argued was stated far more euphamistically than this? Wrong is wrong both ways.

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« Reply #238 on: January 24, 2013, 08:11:11 AM »


Maybe they're so used to getting their own way that this wasn't just a simple no thanks.

Maybe they never expected such a emphatic....PELT YUH BACKSIDE FROM HERE!!!

Maybe the lesson they learned about politics in Tobago was a lesson never learnt.

Maybe they now realize how much of the country they've lost and how hard it will be to regain our trust and belief that they want the best for the citizens of T&T.


*And for the record, as a Tobago voter, I am telling everyone here that this election was NEVER based on race. That was the PP/UNC/TOP spin. Incredibly horrific miscalculation on their part.*


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« Reply #239 on: January 24, 2013, 09:03:13 AM »
Laugh @ Rowley. Yuh cyah convincingly argue that yuh "patently and unambiguously disassociated" yuhself from Sandy's comments when Sandy contested the election under your party's umbrella.

 

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