So what you saying iz, the 1970 black power movement/ coup did not produce positives that ppl of color today benfited from?
and you say king george was an oppressor, but what about the neo colonial government we had @ the time, weren't their policies one sided and oppressive as well that the ppl @ that time was forced to rise up and demand equal opportunity?
another thing while yuh @ it, what civilians did the jammat attack in 90, or NUFF attacked in 70?
You confusing things fella... you compared Shabazz to George Washington... yuh didn't compare Rex Lassalle and Raffique Shah. Yuh didn't do it because in no way yuh could even compare what them fellas do in 1970 to what them bunch of idiat criminals do in 1991. I might disagree with the means chosen by Lassalle and Shah but they were fighting for a much nobler/higher cause beyond themselves. They saw a situation where the politically powerful and the economically powerful sat down and brokered a de facto agreement that sought to disenfranchise the majority. They didn't like this, but continued to play the parts of good soldiers loyal to the government. Then Eric Williams start arresting labor unionists and Black Power leaders left and right and that send out red flags. When Williams was ready to send in the then "Regiment" to quell legitimate protests in the streets... they realized they had to do something and so they mutinied. Them fellas knew that the penalty for that was an appointment before the firing squad but they chose to do that in order to save the country from Williams' ego.
Remind mih again what was so wrong with the government in 1991 that the Muslimeen criminals and them had to try and overthrow it? NUFF and Lassalle/Shah are not looked upon as traitors because like Washington their cause was noble. Doh try and compare the Jamaat-al-Schupidees to them... please. Yuh only making yuhself seem uneducated when yuh do that and I know yuh not uneducated, yuh other comments over the years prove that. As for civilian victims of Abu Backside and them... Robinson was what... police? Military? The members of Parliament was military? Okay, leh we say they was 'government' and not "civilian" if that is the argument yuh want to make... what of the civilian workers in the Red House who they beat and shoot... Jones P. Madeira was what, not a journalist? Dred, Washington never shoot no government official or no journalist... yuh can't compare 1991 to 1776 or to 1970 and expect a favorable outcome.
Sharks, i eh expect nothing better from yuh, and i get it, yuhs ah law man and that's where byour passion lie, fair enough.
i just want to say this though, as much as ppl may hate shabbaz and yaseen for the "dastardly
" thing that they did, i still maintain that it's ah thin line between an act of terror or a noble uprising, whatever the reasoning iz, it comes down to a matter of prospective.
take forinstance, you conclude that lassale and shah's intentions were honorable, but there are ppl who lived through that experience and is still alive today in trinbago who would conclude otherwise, same way you have concluded on the jammat and their attempts.
i for one have a little more knowledge on the subject bc i happened to know quite ah few fellas who was part of the jammat and still iz, and was fully involved in the mele, and from what i gather, they were very much disgruntled with ANR robinson's policy.
did you know that there was a time during the NAR's administration that the hospitals were unable to care for the sick, and ppl were dying bc of it? there was a time when there was a shortage of emergency medicine in the hospitals and a lot of ppl lost their lives in the process, there were inadequate equipment, lack of sheets, beds, and @ one time ppl were even sleeping on the floor of the POS general like in some backawall country in the baltics or in war torn africa.
in 1989 the jammat went to the UN and got help from a few nations including libya, a container of medicine and medical supplies was send to us and robinson refused to accept it, i think it came from UNICEF, and the only reason he refused with his pompus arse was bc abu bakar was the one who brokered the deal,
so ppl were sleeping on the floor of the hospital, with no sheets and no medicine, while there was containers sitting on the port with beds sheets medicine and our "beloved" prime minister refused to accept it.
ah man talk about them shooting him in his leg, they waste ah round, they shoulda put it in his dogone head. that man undid every good thing williams did to raise the standard of living in T&T.
he went to the IMF, something williams never would have even considered, so the dollar was devalued, he cut nuff government jobs to the point that every ministry was running @ a bare minimum, ppl who worked in govt jobs for yrs was retrenched with very few yrs left before they could receive a pension, as ah matter of fact, all the social programs williams implemented for sufferers he cut.
the jammat was on his long list of agendas of things to get rid of, and he had a serious hard on for the black muslim community. as we know dr williams gave the muslims that land way back in the in the late sixties early seventies, then the indian muslims moved away and left it there for the black muslim community to control.
back in 1980ies there was a lot of hostility between the police and the black muslim community, they would harass and have even known to kill muslims, one particular case was ah brother name abdul kareem, he was stabbed to death in st james on the western main road by an undercover cop and nothing came of it.
there was many confrontations between yasseen and boroughs, and only bc yasseen was a police that knew boroughs personally, and that bakar was very much in the know and could have caused problems for the murderous commissioner, that kept boroughs @ bay.
the last straw was when the government under the auspices of mr robinson himself planned to storm the jammatt with the military and kill yaseen and his key followers, but the mission was leaked to the imam and they set up a defensive which was also leaked by an informant on the inside of the jammat which lead to a stand off.
a short time later the govt came up with another scheme, the order then was to destroy the compound utterly, and the coup which was on the back burner for a later date was pushed forward.
all who runnin their mouths about terrorist this and terrorist that, don't know what de fack was taking place in the country @ the time, but instead only going by what the media divulge.
the country was in ah mess!! under the NAR trinidad experienced ah mass exodus and a serious brain drain which still affects the quality of life in dat place uptil today!
and yes, ah still waiting for the civilian attacks, as far as i know, all the women and civilian workers in the red house was released, all the places that was attacked were either the Parliament and the CID central police station head quarters which are all non civilian targets.
yes leo divines lost his life and that was unfortunate, and maybe that journalist you referred too, but they were isolated cases, and more or less collateral damage, but i doubt they were the intended targets.
BTW TTT was occupied, not bombed, and no one died there, they were only distressed, but no one was killed as a result.