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South America U20
« on: January 14, 2013, 11:50:50 AM »
Not sure how many following this tournament, but you should if you like a certain type of ball.

Some of the smaller countries throwing up real individual talent and their team game is brilliant.
So much so that Brasil and Argentina on the brink of elimination.
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 02:00:31 PM »
GROUP A                                                  GROUP B

Chile                                                         Uruguay
Colombia                                                   Ecuador
Paraguay                                                   Peru
Argentina                                                   Brazil
Bolivia                                                       Venezuela


Group A action (Friday, January 11)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/KOLSRROPwqo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/KOLSRROPwqo</a>
Paraguay 2 Argentina 1

Coach of Argentina: Marcelo Trobbiani
Coach of Paraguay: Victor Genes
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 02:00:40 PM »
From Thursday, January 10 ...

Group B action (both games):
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/HHhsjAZ4tA8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/HHhsjAZ4tA8</a>
Peru 3 Uruguay 3. One of the best games of the tournament!


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/5Rm2k94w9Z4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/5Rm2k94w9Z4</a>
Brazil 1 Ecuador 1

Coach of Brazil:Emerson Avila
Coach of Ecuador: Julio Cesar Rosero

(Edit: If yuh had a look before ... I changed the link from the Argentine highlights because the Brazilian coverage is more extensive. If yuh watch nutten else watch @ 3:27)
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 02:05:31 PM »
Group A action (Wednesday, January 9):
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/mS2k-dV8Pl8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/mS2k-dV8Pl8</a>
Chile 1 Argentina 0

Coach of Chile: Mario Salas
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 02:07:50 PM »
Group A action (Friday, January 11)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/XDd4QZxnUHQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/XDd4QZxnUHQ</a>
Chile 2 Bolivia 0

Coach of Bolivia: Marco Antonio Barrero
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 02:10:52 PM »
Group A action (Sunday, January 13)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/zXuJhtGTZZM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/zXuJhtGTZZM</a>
Argentina 2 Bolivia 2

(#9 wid de rocket of the game's 3rd goal is Luciano Vietto)
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2013, 02:24:54 PM »
Group A action (Sunday, January 13)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/QBzqlxBjzx0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/QBzqlxBjzx0</a>
Chile 2 Colombia 1

Coach of Colombia: Carlos Restrepo (didn't play professional ball; has coaching experience in CONCACAF region in Costa Rica).
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2013, 02:48:09 PM »
Group A action (Wednesday, January 9)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/uC4mJt4t9J4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/uC4mJt4t9J4</a>
Colombia 1 Paraguay 0

(goalscorer is Jhon Cordoba; plays in Mexico for Jaguares; I doubt he'll stay there long ...)
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2013, 02:51:50 PM »
Chilean football on the rise boy.

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Re: South America U20
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2013, 04:12:16 PM »
Chilean football on the rise boy.

So is Uruguay & Colombia. Even Venezuela giving teams a run
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2013, 04:34:28 PM »
I was watching Brazilv Uraguay and the Celeste was leading the Canaries 2 zip. Uraguay, direct fast counter attacking. Brazil playing around, no penetration. Bebeto (USA 94 WC) son was playing. Not effective even though he is a good player. He has a hard left foot shot. I don't think Brazil might make it. But them side could beat our current local Carib Cup side with ease.

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Re: South America U20
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2013, 05:42:02 PM »
Been checkin' it out too
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2013, 06:17:37 PM »
I was watching Brazilv Uraguay and the Celeste was leading the Canaries 2 zip. Uraguay, direct fast counter attacking. Brazil playing around, no penetration. Bebeto (USA 94 WC) son was playing. Not effective even though he is a good player. He has a hard left foot shot. I don't think Brazil might make it. But them side could beat our current local Carib Cup side with ease.

Don't understand Brasil at all. Both times Rafinha came on he look a cut above the rest. Yet Brasil seems to want to prove they can do it with local based.
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 07:38:37 AM »
Group A action from Tuesday (January 15)

<a href="http://youtube.com/v/6Dovje2yBj0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://youtube.com/v/6Dovje2yBj0</a>
Colombia 6 Bolivia 0

Typical Colombian squad. I have doubts about them defensively, but Bolivia just eh have it. Places Argentina's struggles in perspective.

***Edit: forgot to add the other Chilean victory from the same day. ***

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/fWnbpFlzO3M" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/fWnbpFlzO3M</a>
Chile 3 Paraguay 2
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 12:08:44 PM »
Chilean football on the rise boy.

Rojas from Chile looking and kinda playing like de next Maradona/Messi...ah keeping meh eyes on him for rest ah de tournament.
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2013, 02:21:32 PM »
Chilean football on the rise boy.

Rojas from Chile looking and kinda playing like de next Maradona/Messi...ah keeping meh eyes on him for rest ah de tournament.

Yeah sah he sweet and jinky on the ball. Trouble eh!
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2013, 02:55:58 PM »
Chilean football on the rise boy.

Rojas from Chile looking and kinda playing like de next Maradona/Messi...ah keeping meh eyes on him for rest ah de tournament.

Yeah sah he sweet and jinky on the ball. Trouble eh!

Yeah jed, dat Chilean club he playing for right now going and eat ah big food off ah dis youth when dem big clubs come calling:)
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2013, 03:13:56 PM »
Chilean football on the rise boy.

Rojas from Chile looking and kinda playing like de next Maradona/Messi...ah keeping meh eyes on him for rest ah de tournament.

Yeah sah he sweet and jinky on the ball. Trouble eh!

Yeah jed, dat Chilean club he playing for right now going and eat ah big food off ah dis youth when dem big clubs come calling:)

Let me put it this way: in August, when the Chileans traveled to Germany for the Oberndorf tournament (a U-19 event), he was named best player of the tournament. To put that in perspective for the Eurocentric: other teams present included Sevilla, Wolfsburg, Schalke04, Man City and Grasshoppers Zurich.

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Re: South America U20
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2013, 03:47:32 PM »
From Monday (January 14)

Group A:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JNeQzeP5PT0&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/JNeQzeP5PT0&amp;feature=related</a>
Peru 1 Venezuela 0 ... Benavente again.

***EDIT***
Group B:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Y7fJ4osocRc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/Y7fJ4osocRc</a>
Uruguay 2 Ecuador 2
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2013, 07:18:15 PM »
Chilean football on the rise boy.

Rojas from Chile looking and kinda playing like de next Maradona/Messi...ah keeping meh eyes on him for rest ah de tournament.

Yeah sah he sweet and jinky on the ball. Trouble eh!

Yeah jed, dat Chilean club he playing for right now going and eat ah big food off ah dis youth when dem big clubs come calling:)

Let me put it this way: in August, when the Chileans traveled to Germany for the Oberndorf tournament (a U-19 event), he was named best player of the tournament. To put that in perspective for the Eurocentric: other teams present included Sevilla, Wolfsburg, Schalke04, Man City and Grasshoppers Zurich.
Dat eh surprise me at all, and look I just watch de last 30 minutes of de game last night and only see him make a few touches, but de little dat ah see, ah was like, "way who is he?" Ah really going back and watch all Chile games for real.
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2013, 05:02:37 PM »
Group A action (Thursday, January 17):
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/gjtbpxRR9k4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/gjtbpxRR9k4</a>
Paraguay 5 Bolivia 1
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Re: South America U20
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2013, 05:15:01 PM »
Tomorrow, Group B action : Uruguay v Venezuela ... also Brazil v Peru.

Right now in Group A action, 13 minutes into the first half Argentina and Colombia are scoreless.

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Re: South America U20
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2013, 05:31:53 PM »
Argentina 1 Colombia 0 in the 31'. Argentina playing for pride. Much damage already done.

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Re: South America U20
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2013, 05:42:22 PM »
Chilean football on the rise boy.

Rojas from Chile looking and kinda playing like de next Maradona/Messi...ah keeping meh eyes on him for rest ah de tournament.

Yeah sah he sweet and jinky on the ball. Trouble eh!

Yeah jed, dat Chilean club he playing for right now going and eat ah big food off ah dis youth when dem big clubs come calling:)

Let me put it this way: in August, when the Chileans traveled to Germany for the Oberndorf tournament (a U-19 event), he was named best player of the tournament. To put that in perspective for the Eurocentric: other teams present included Sevilla, Wolfsburg, Schalke04, Man City and Grasshoppers Zurich.
Dat eh surprise me at all, and look I just watch de last 30 minutes of de game last night and only see him make a few touches, but de little dat ah see, ah was like, "way who is he?" Ah really going back and watch all Chile games for real.


According to the commentator's comments from the victory over Paraguay (just posted game today) ... that victory marked the first time that any Chilean U20 team has won 4 matches consecutively. He din say this but I saying it ... says a lot when the 2007 group included Alexis Sanchez, Arturo Vidal,  Mauricio Isla, and Gary Medel. Ballers all!
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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2013, 06:26:06 PM »
I neglected Group B .. so here it is. Saturday action (January 12):

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/6KUJnoaV3WY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/6KUJnoaV3WY</a>
Venezuela 1 Ecuador 0   Golazo!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/HstaOgb0o_I" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/HstaOgb0o_I</a>
Uruguay 3 Brazil 2. One of the best games of the tournament.

(Marcos Junior scored a clutch goal, BUT he had a HUGE huge throw way fuh Brasil in this game) Ketch it here on the extended highlights between 8:45 and 8:50

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Re: South America U20
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2013, 07:14:53 PM »
Other game Group A action (Thursday, January 17):
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JUizyksXstk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/JUizyksXstk</a>
Argentina 3 Colombia 2

Steups. No surprises here. See comments above re: Colombia being a defensive nightmare.

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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2013, 07:41:15 PM »
Group B action (Wednesday, January 16):

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/8JDS_T5CT3c" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/8JDS_T5CT3c</a>
Brazil 1 Venezuela 0

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/qW-qByy8DZY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/qW-qByy8DZY</a>
Ecuador 2 Peru 1

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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2013, 08:45:36 PM »
Tim Vickery column: Scouts head for under-20 championship

European airports might want to put out a warning: over the next few days, passengers should be prepared for long queues at the check-in desks.

They will have to line up behind an army of scouts from local clubs, making their way to Argentina, where the South American Under-20 Championships get under way this week.

The tournament is taking place in the country's wine-producing region, near the border with Chile. The scouts, though, are more likely to become intoxicated with the quality of talent on show. The South American Under-20s offer a wonderful sneak preview of the stars of tomorrow.

I have been hooked on the tournament ever since 1999, when the likes of Ronaldinho and Roque Santa Cruz made their mark. But the highlight came in 2005, when a then unknown pigeon-toed little figure by the name of Lionel Messi, just 17 at the time, gave an early glimpse of his genius.

The case of Javier Mascherano, his team-mate for club and country, is every bit as interesting. His combination of grit and class stood out in the 2003 version of the competition. At the time he had not played a game for River Plate but Argentina were aware they had something special on their hands.

Less than six months later, still without having made a club appearance, he was given his senior international debut. Just a few months later it was impossible to imagine an Argentina side without him.


This is clearly an extreme case, but it does hint at the huge importance given to the under-20 tournament by the South American national teams. For the major European countries, club form is the overwhelming criteria for international selection.

The South Americans can often take a broader view. After all, it can be hard to compare club form when players are strewn across different leagues on both sides of the Atlantic.

The youngsters are representing their countries, fighting to be continental champions and also to qualify for the World Youth Cup, which this year will be held in Turkey.

The pressure is on and those who perform well may be fast-tracked into the senior squad. I have even seen it happen after promising displays with the under-17s. Some of the players on show in Argentina over the next few weeks could manage to force themselves into contention for next year's World Cup.

So who are the candidates? Between 1995 and 2007, Argentina were the dominant global force at under-20 level. Their last two under-20 sides, however, were poor.

Hopes of a revival are pinned on a group of sleek attacking talent: Ricardo Centurion and Luciano Vietto of Racing Club, Juan Manuel Iturbe, who showed some lovely touches in the last version of this tournament two years ago, playmakers Manuel Lanzini and Alan Ruiz; and Lucas Romero, the latest player from the Velez Sarsfield production line of interesting central midfielders.

Brazil have a wonderful left-footed centre-back in Doria of Botafogo. Fluminense's attacking right-back Wallace joins Chelsea later this year. Quick, skilful and clever, Internacional's left-footed midfielder Fred had a fine debut season in the Brazilian championship.

Santos playmaker Felipe Anderson is highly rated, and another option is Matheus, son of 1994 World Cup-winning striker Bebeto, whose team-mate Mazinho also has a son in the squad, Rafael Alcantara of Barcelona, whose brother Thiago has thrown in his lot with Spain. Talking of Brazil greats from the past, 'the new Careca' is a nickname that has already been given to Botafogo's Bruno Mendes.

Uruguay bring a young squad, much of which has been drawn from the side that reached the semi-finals of the 2011 World Under-17 Cup.

They are bolstered by some interesting more experienced names - Penarol midfielder Sebastian Cristoforo, Nacional's flying left winger Gonzalo Bueno, and Defensor's highly talented support striker Diego Rolan.

I am particularly keen to have a look at Ecuador's midfield, which is packed with players who have just completed fine domestic campaigns. They can count on the combative Eddy Corozo of Emelec, Barcelona of Guayaquil's versatile Carlos Grueso and the skilful wide play of Jonny Uchuari of Liga da Loja.

Especially interesting, though, is Jose Cevallos of LDU, whose father (of the same name) is one of Ecuador's all-time great goalkeepers. The son is an attacking midfielder of huge promise, young enough to take part in the next version of this tournament two years from now.

Colombia, too, have some promising midfielders. The wonderfully creative, left-footed Juan Fernando Quintero has already made his senior international debut and will be expected to organise the team's play, backed up by the all-round skills of Sebastian Perez. Brayan Perea, meanwhile, is a rangy, dynamic striker.

Chile look full of goals with their strike force of target man Nicolas Castillo, goal poacher Diego Rubio and support striker Felipe Mora. Central midfielder Sebastian Martinez, mature beyond his years, should be handed plenty of responsibility - and there is the added interest of Tottenham goalkeeper Lawrence Vigouroux, son of a Chilean mother and an English father.

The financial problems of Peruvian football have meant that several of their youngsters have considerable first-team experience. Dynamic Universitario striker Andy Polo is a huge hope, as is his former team-mate, left winger Edison Flores, now in Spain with Villarreal. Other starlets include Alianza Lima central midfielder Wilder Cartagena and Cesar Vallejo's left-footed attacking midfielder Victor Cedron, while Real Madrid's Cristian Benavente will want to live up to his billing.

Paraguay have two fine players trying to recover from premature moves abroad - Brian Montenegro, who had a spell with West Ham after playing in the previous version of this tournament, and the big, left-footed Rodrigo Alborno, now with Novara in Italy after an unwise move to Inter Milan.

Bolivia, meanwhile, will be built around central midfielder Pedro Azogue, already a senior international, while Venezuela's jet-heeled Josef Martinez has already made an impact in World Cup qualification. Even more than all of the other players on show, he has the right to dream of taking part in Brazil 2014.


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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2013, 01:20:22 PM »
Hear nah ah watch dat Brazil v Venezuela game last night....I end up fast-forwarding the last 10 minutes to avoid having to watch Brasil yes.

I is de biggest Brasil fan and I is ah Trini, I could imagine actual Brazilians...talk bout boom-kick from defenders, ah get flashbacks yes:)

Long story short, de Brazilian coach eh lasting long after dis tournament:(
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2013, 04:08:17 PM »
15' of 2nd half  ... Venezuela 2 Uruguay 1

 

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