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Jlloyd Samuel
« on: February 16, 2013, 12:50:57 PM »
Was at a friends house and happen to see a game from Iran. Jlloyd Samuel played very well. Hopefully he is considered for the GC selection. From all indications he is playing both as a defender and in midfield.
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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2013, 08:35:24 PM »
This post will bolster his case for inclusion.

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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2013, 06:34:56 AM »
I would definitely include Samuel on the T&T team for the Gold Cup, he is still technically the best left back we have and is still a very good player. I am sure he would also help teach the younger left backs coming up in T&T a thing or two.

Samuel and Joevin will do great on that left side for T&T.

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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2013, 10:20:16 AM »
 Or the mid-fielder in front of the back 4.

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2013, 10:46:18 AM »
That has left the station.

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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2013, 03:26:49 PM »
Coache like he have it in fuh southmen.

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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2013, 07:56:27 PM »
I doh have it een fuh southmen Jlloyd from PleasantVille ..I from PleasantVille..born and raise in SanDo play football all over south, north ,east, west , deep south, country, all over ..Jlloyd time has past.

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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2013, 08:02:26 PM »
Where u getting your facts from?  He time has past?  Lol

Where in pville u from coache? Jlloyd's father was from pville.
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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2013, 08:03:57 PM »
I know.. from my same block..

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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2013, 10:18:27 AM »
Ah know he been there fuh ah while now (and it been said before) ...... but Iran ?, IRAN  ??? , that must be some serious cash passin there an with all the sanctions can't think he gettin paid in (or by) local, wonder who fundin that?

If bridges have been burn't is probable that is the reason, T&T selectors may have the same view on the standard that English coaches have on their national team players going tuh the MLS. Would be interested to know the current view.




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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2013, 03:33:07 PM »
He said the level there is equivalent to the championship division and some games have as much as 100,000 people in the stadium.  Plus the tax structure is not as harsh.

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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2013, 05:30:22 PM »
I doh have it een fuh southmen Jlloyd from PleasantVille ..I from PleasantVille..born and raise in SanDo play football all over south, north ,east, west , deep south, country, all over ..Jlloyd time has past.

I disagree with you on Jlloyd. I think he can still help our team. He could be the only "oldman" in the back with the "yutes".

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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2013, 05:34:13 PM »
I doh have it een fuh southmen Jlloyd from PleasantVille ..I from PleasantVille..born and raise in SanDo play football all over south, north ,east, west , deep south, country, all over ..Jlloyd time has past.

I disagree with you on Jlloyd. I think he can still help our team. He could be the only "oldman" in the back with the "yutes".

The question are "Can he still contribute?" Are their better players for the position? Can he add depth?
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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2013, 12:23:07 PM »
I doh have it een fuh southmen Jlloyd from PleasantVille ..I from PleasantVille..born and raise in SanDo play football all over south, north ,east, west , deep south, country, all over ..Jlloyd time has past.

I disagree with you on Jlloyd. I think he can still help our team. He could be the only "oldman" in the back with the "yutes".

The question are "Can he still contribute?" Are their better players for the position? Can he add depth?

Right now that is hard to decipher. He playing in Iran, and the TTFF can't seem to have a friendly or training session/ friendly that don't conflict with his club. So if we don't see him sweat with the NT, we really can't tel,l can't we. But my gut feeling is that he can contribute to this present team. As for 2018, I have my doubts. Age and distance is the issue.
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2015, 03:59:18 PM »
HIGHLIGHTS of Jlloyd Samuel playing in Iran with Persian Gulf Pro League clubs, Esteghlal FC and Paykan FC
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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2015, 04:13:22 PM »
How old is he?

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2015, 04:42:26 PM »
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Remember him? Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2015, 05:16:22 AM »
Remember him? Jlloyd Samuel
By Oliver Mackenzie (readonastonvilla.com)


If you’re a football fan who lives in Trinidad and Tobago you have two options for a sporting hero; you either look up to Dwight Yorke or Jlloyd Samuel. Who you look up to is determined by what you think is the main aim of football; do you score goals or stop them; in the first of a two-part Trinidad and Tobago special, we take the approach that you stop them first.

Having moved from his native Trinidad at an early age, Samuel’s football career started on the playground at St Joseph’s academy in London. The former grammar school also produced the talents of Football Manager icon Cherno Samba; Charlton and Bolton defender Anthony Burgess, and Rugby League international Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook.

Samuel’s talents on the playing fields of the Blackheath school were soon noticed by Charlton Athletic, who snapped up the player on an apprentice contract.

As a youngster, the defender was also on the books at West Ham and was released the same day as Paul Konchesky, Lee Bowyer, and Bobby Zamora; unlike the following free though Samuel’s career would take his attention away from London.

It was at the Addicks that he was noticed by John Gregory, who caused a legal dispute to sign the young player. Before the world of Bosman rulings and transfer windows, tribunals to settle legal issues surrounding transfers were quite common.

However, it was quite rare for academy players to be the center of a case, due to the fact that more often than not the purchasing team had to prove the player in question added a significant value to the club or addressed a specific need.

What made the case controversial was that John Gregory wanted the player, yet didn’t want to start him; making his transition north more unique at the time.

In the end, Gregory did put some faith in his new man early on, having started nine games in his debut season, however, was shipped back to the South East on loan at Gillingham. A spell that saw him make just eight appearances for the Gills. It was under Graham Taylor though, where the West-Indies born defender shone.

It was under Taylor were Samuel gained a strong reputation for being a good tackler and set piece defender during the noughties yo-yo years, Samuel’s defensive prowess as a full back also garnered the attention of the England selectors, who called him up for the U-21’s in 2001. However, he was only considered once for the senior side of his adopted home; in 2004 during the height of O’Leary’s time with the club.

During that time, he was credited as part of a strong chemistry with fellow Villa defender Olof Mellberg, and the two still share a good relationship to this day.

Despite not playing for England, Samuel did enjoy a short international career at Trinidad and Tobago in 2009. Although he wanted to play for his native home a lot sooner, yet a legal issue surrounding his internationally declared status meant this was blocked.

Even though he had dual nationality, Samuel couldn’t represent his home because of his England call-up in 2004; even though he never kicked a ball in anger.

The whole issue screams unfair, since if he had gone to Germany with Trinidad and Tobago he would have made a massive addition to a team that was relying on an aging Dwight Yorke; in short the full back had almost his entire international career robbed by a FIFA technicality.

The issue rubbed sorely with Samuel who after the ruling stated: “I’ve played for the England Under-21s and I’m sure some people will accuse me of jumping on the bandwagon, but I feel Trinidadian and want to play for them, I was born in Trinidad and it would make me proud to play for them.”

That World Cup was also significant for his club career, since, after the World Cup, Samuel would find chances under Martin O’Neill hard to come by. Samuel eventually revealed on his personal website (this was before the age of Twitter) that he would leave Villa to pursue first team opportunities.

Those opportunities came at Bolton, were under Gary Megson he would rekindle his form as a rock solid full-back. After a competent couple of seasons, Samuel was finally given his wish of playing for his native Trinidad and Tobago, after an impressive start, the Soca Warriors campaign had stalled.

Manager Russell Latapy hoped that Samuel and Bobby Zamora would be able to get them over the line and qualify for the World Cup, yet an injury prevented the latter from playing, and a defeat to Honduras meant the island national had no hope of qualification. The disappointments’ of 2009 didn’t end there. As under Megson’s tenure Bolton were in decline, and the defender took a share of the blame.

Samuel’s last action in the England would be teaming up with Craig Bellamy in 2011 to aid Cardiff City in their promotion charge, alas the Bluebirds failed in their first real attempt to get to the promised land causing him to seek a new challenge.

Jlloyd Samuel definitely put the “new” in new challenge when he signed for Iranian side Esteghlal F.C. The full-back has picked up a Hazfi Cup and Iranian Pro League since switching to the Persian nation. Indeed, Iran is still a place he calls home having made the move to then recently promoted Paykan in 2014. Samuel left the Crown of Asia after a dispute over unpaid wages.

Perhaps if football on and off the field was fairer, the Caribbean-born defender would have played at two World Cups. Yet with his Iranian adventure, Jlloyd represents a bit of a footballing colonist. The easier option would have been the MLS or the A-league, however, there’s no sense of discovery with a move to L.A Galaxy of Perth Glory later on in your career.

Indeed, Samuel desired deepened knowledge of the world and a new culture. He certainly got that when he witness his new team-mates sacrifice a ship for good luck. However, despite the sacrificial side to Iranian club football, he can now boast to have played for a club who, during his time at the Tehran outfit, had an average attendance of 80,000.

So if the conversation ever transpires in your local about what Jlloyd Samuel has achieved, you can say he’s played in front of almost as many people as Lionel Messi and Christiano Ronaldo.
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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2015, 05:28:37 AM »
Maybe he could arrange a cobo sweat for us in Teheran!!! I have a feeling he can still play for we, you know.
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2015, 05:49:58 AM »
The irony of it all: the texter is still around, but the textee is outside looking in.

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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2015, 06:37:53 AM »
The irony of it all: the texter is still around, but the textee is outside looking in.

You is ah ass eh?  :rotfl:
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Former Villa defender Jlloyd Samuel eyes new challenge
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2016, 01:55:19 PM »
Former Villa defender Jlloyd Samuel eyes new challenge
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Former Aston Villa and Bolton defender Jlloyd Samuel is showing no signs of slowing down on or off the pitch as he looks to fix himself with a new club.

Samuel is currently without a club and is focusing on some business ventures with Futurz London and Boost Your Mobile but looking to get back to playing after four years in Iran.

The 34-year-old believes he still has a lot to offer and is ready for a new challenge either in the UK or abroad again.

Samuel featured in 11 Premier League seasons with Villa and Bolton, making 240 appearances in the top flight and he feels he revamped himself after his spell in Iran.

“I am currently a free agent after returning from Iran and I am looking at finding myself a new club,” Samuel told TEAMtalk.com.

“Ideally I would like to find a club in the UK, but I would have no problem in going abroad again.

“I would consider the MLS or anywhere because my experience in Iran really was an eye-opener for me.

“I welcomed it [the move to Iran] and learned the language and the customs and although there were a few problems I coped with it all.”

Samuel has been working on his fitness after returning to England and he is weighing up his options as to where to continue his career.

“I have not played in the last five months, but I have been working hard on my fitness and I am just waiting on the right opportunity right now,” added Samuel.

“I still feel I could do a job in the Championship or the top end of League One.

“The standard of football in Iran was decent and you can see how well the national team has improved over the years with Carlos Queiroz the manager there now and I also played at a good level in the Asian Champions League

“I believe I am a stronger player now and I had to be strong-minded and disciplined to adapt to life in Iran.”
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Ex-Premier League players line up for non-league Egerton FC
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2017, 07:22:15 PM »
Jlloyd Samuel & Nathan Ellington: Ex-Premier League players line up for non-league Egerton FC
By Matt Davis (BBC Sport)


Imagine turning up for your Saturday football game and finding not one, but two ex-Premier League players in the opposition line-up.

That is the scenario facing opponents of Egerton FC in the 12th tier of the English game this season.

Jlloyd Samuel spent more than a decade in the Premier League with Aston Villa and Bolton, played against teams like Atletico Madrid and Bayern Munich, and received an England call-up.

Now the 36-year-old is player-manager of Cheshire League One leaders Egerton alongside ex-Barnsley, Huddersfield and Ajax midfielder Dean Gorre, and American businessman Jim Cherneski, coming up against teams such as Cheadle Town Reserves.

Samuel is using his football contacts to attract some other big names to the Knutsford side, with former Wigan striker Nathan Ellington making his debut last month.

Emile Heskey could be next, with the former England striker training at the club, followed by ex-Sheffield United and Manchester United forward Danny Webber and ex-Wigan defender Emmerson Boyce.

Former Wales midfielder Robbie Savage is the club's under-12 coach.

"The team were shocked when I said I would play," Samuel told BBC Sport. "Sometimes I think I am crazy.

"I play on pitches that I have not played on since I was 12. There was one where it was raining like crazy, a proper mudbath. I was thinking 'what am I doing here?' But I just still love playing."

'When you stop you pile on the pounds'

Former Trinidad and Tobago international Samuel took over the first XI at the start of the season after being approached by chairman Tom O'Donnell.

He had been running a development programme and training at the club for the previous year, saying: "When you finish football you pile on the pounds, I wasn't one for doing that."

Samuel has had offers from abroad, but said he would rather be near his family, adding: "I don't need to go searching for the last pay day."

Instead, he spends his time among a mixture of ex-professionals, youth and former academy players, but does not see coaching as his long-term ambition.

"It is more of a fun thing and I prefer the business side of things, but I enjoy it. I get to train daily and play at weekends."

Ellington, 36, who represented West Brom in the Premier League, has not played competitively since leaving Southport in 2013. That was followed by an unsuccessful spell in Thailand.

"When I came home I realised I had been out of the game for so long, I couldn't get back into it. I ended up having to stop at 33," the former non-league player, who now runs a soccer school and academy in Manchester, said.

"This is back to how it all began. I take it seriously because I want to win games, but there is not as much pressure on this level - I just have to get myself good enough to play 90 minutes."

Samuel and Ellington say they have been recognised by their opponents and have been singled out for some heavy treatment.

"I find it pretty funny and I can look after myself," said Samuel.

"It is more about the surfaces we play on, that is more dangerous because players are able to slide long distances and catch you.

"Some of the ex-pros wouldn't play on them, but luckily our pitch is decent so I guess I will just have to get them to play home games only."

'I looked at the sheep, the sheep looked at me'

After leaving Bolton in 2011, Samuel moved to the Iranian top flight, playing first for Esteghlal - where he won the league and cup double - and then for Paykan.

One thing he will not be bringing to Egerton's training sessions is the regular sacrifice of sheep that he experienced in Iran.

"When I first arrived at the training ground, they gave me a special welcome - I saw the sheep, the sheep looked at me, I was looking at the sheep and the next thing the neck is gone," said Samuel. who played in front of crowds of 100,000.

"People were walking through the blood, they put it on themselves and then carried on like nothing had happened.

"I soon realised that was their culture, they do it for good fortune. If they are struggling in the league, or need good luck for a big derby match, then they would do it before a game.

"In the end I would turn around, I did not want to see it, I was not against their religion, but it is something I did not want to see."
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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2017, 11:36:01 PM »
 :D  some fellas just waiting for a certain President to say "Baaaa"   :devil:

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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2017, 07:44:12 AM »
Jlloyd Samuel & Nathan Ellington: Ex-Premier League players line up for non-league Egerton FC
By Matt Davis (BBC Sport)


Imagine turning up for your Saturday football game and finding not one, but two ex-Premier League players in the opposition line-up.

That is the scenario facing opponents of Egerton FC in the 12th tier of the English game this season.

Jlloyd Samuel spent more than a decade in the Premier League with Aston Villa and Bolton, played against teams like Atletico Madrid and Bayern Munich, and received an England call-up.

Now the 36-year-old is player-manager of Cheshire League One leaders Egerton alongside ex-Barnsley, Huddersfield and Ajax midfielder Dean Gorre, and American businessman Jim Cherneski, coming up against teams such as Cheadle Town Reserves.

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They ketch ah 8-2 cut-ass over de weekend.  :devil:

"This was by far the best Pilks first team performance in a long time and after a season of frustration hopefully they have finally found some form and can push on for a promotion spot."
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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2018, 08:00:23 AM »
Whaz this I reading on the tabloids? Hopefully not true

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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2018, 08:25:54 AM »
Whaz this I reading on the tabloids? Hopefully not true

Former Aston Villa defender Jlloyd Samuel has died in a car crash at the age of 37, the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association has confirmed.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-jlloyd-samuel-dead-former-12540037?1
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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2018, 09:20:01 AM »
Jlloyd Samuel, former Trinidad and Tobago, Aston Villa and Bolton defender, dies in car crash
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The former Aston Villa and Bolton defender Jlloyd Samuel died in a car crash on Tuesday morning.

“We are deeply saddened to hear of the death of our former player Jlloyd Samuel at the age of just 37 in a car accident,” Villa said on Twitter.

“Our players will wear black armbands as a mark of respect tonight [in the Championship play-off semi-final against Middlesbrough] and our thoughts are with his friends and family at this very difficult time.”

Samuel played 169 league games during nine years at Villa from before joining Bolton in 2007, going on to make 71 league appearances over four years. He also had loan spells at Gillingham and Cardiff. Most recently he was the player-manager of non-league side Egerton.

Samuel was capped by England from under-18 to under-21 level and was an unused substitute for a senior international against Sweden in 2004. He decided to represent Trinidad and Tobago, winning two caps. He also played club football in Iran between 2011 and 2015.

The Trinidad and Tobago FA said in a statement: “We’ve received some terrible news that former national defender and ex-Aston Villa and Bolton Wanderers player Jlloyd Samuel died in a car crash this morning in England.

“According to reports, Jlloyd was returning home after dropping his kids off to school and collided with an oncoming vehicle.

“The Trinidad and Tobago FA and his former national team-mates at this time extends deepest condolences to his family members both in the UK and here in Trinidad and Tobago.”

Born in San Fernando, Trinidad and Tobago, Samuel moved to the UK as a youngster and attended school in Blackheath. He played for London Schoolboys and Charlton youth sides before signing for Villa.

Cheshire police said they were called to a serious collision involving a van and a Range Rover in High Legh, Cheshire at 7:55am.

“Sadly the driver of the car, Jlloyd Samuel, 37, from Lymm, died at the scene,” they said in a statement. “The driver of the van, a 54-year-old man, sustained serious injuries and has been taken to hospital.”

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Jlloyd Samuel: Tributes paid after former Aston Villa and Bolton defender dies in crash.
By Matt Davis (BBC SPORTS).


Former Aston Villa and Bolton defender Jlloyd Samuel has been praised as a selfless, honest and positive friend after he died aged 37 in a car crash.

Samuel, most recently player-manager of non-league side Egerton, died in an accident in Cheshire on Tuesday.

A minute's applause was held at Villa Park before the Championship play-off second leg between Villa and Middlesbrough.

The supporters sang "there's only one Jlloyd Samuel" during the tribute.

Ex-Wigan and West Brom striker Nathan Ellington, who played with him at Egerton, told BBC Sport: "It is gut-wrenching, he was an amazing guy. He did so much. He had a positive effect on people's hearts.

"I saw him all the time and would train with him. Everyone loved him, he was a great guy and always moving onto bigger and better things. He will be sadly missed.

"He loved football and giving back. That was the whole point of Egerton. He was at training every day, putting his heart and soul into it and helping the youth players coming through. It had nothing to do with money but a genuine care for people. He was selfless, willing to give back and help.

"He was also a successful businessman and a family man."

Samuel made 199 appearances for Villa after signing for the club in 1998 and played 83 times for Bolton between 2007 and 2011.

He won two caps for Trinidad and Tobago and also played club football in Iran between 2011 and 2015.

The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association said: "According to reports, Jlloyd was returning home after dropping his kids off to school and collided with an oncoming vehicle."

Whenever I was with him, you could feel the positive vibes - Nathan Ellington on Jlloyd Samuel

Ellington said his friend had spoken of his work in Africa, helping to support regeneration in The Gambia.

"He was helping to rebuild the country and financial structure. He was doing things on a big scale - meeting the president of the country," he said.

"He could not have had many regrets of how he lived his life. He did everything he could do to make a difference.

"He was always honest and good to you. He had everything you could want in a friend and many others say the same thing. It's a massive loss."

Egerton have cancelled all their games this week as a mark of respect.

"Jlloyd was a great inspiration around our club and first team this season," said the Cheshire club in a statement.

Former Bolton team-mate Kevin Davies said that Samuel was popular with fellow players and fans.

"I remember him being very smart, he was very dapper, always with a smile on his face and he just enjoyed his life," Davies told BBC Radio Manchester.

Ex-Villa boss David O'Leary, who managed Samuel between 2003 and 2006, told BBC Radio 5 live: "He was a very happy-go-lucky, smiling boy. I just remember him from day one as a refreshing young lad who wanted to do well. It was a pleasure to be his manager for three years.

"He wanted to learn, get better and do well. He wanted to play for you and I was grateful for his attitude.

"He had a personality and an easy going nature about him. He had natural ability and natural fitness. I am so deeply shocked with the news that a really nice person has been taken from us."

Championship club Villa said they were "deeply saddened" to hear of his death and the players wore back armbands in their game against Middlesbrough.

Samuel was capped by England from Under-18 to Under-21 level and was an unused substitute for a senior international against Sweden in 2004. He later played twice for Trinidad and Tobago, the country of his birth.

Cheshire Police said they were called to a serious collision involving a van and a Range Rover in High Legh, Cheshire at 07:55 BST on Tuesday, and the car driver Samuel died at the scene.

The van driver, a 54-year-old man, was taken to hospital with serious injuries.

Football pays tribute

Bolton Wanderers: "Rest in peace, Jlloyd. Our deepest condolences are with his family and friends at this difficult time."

Cardiff City: "We are deeply saddened to hear of the passing of former Cardiff City defender, Jlloyd Samuel. Our thoughts are with his friends and family at this incredibly difficult time."

Charlton Athletic: "The club are deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Jlloyd Samuel, who began his career in Charlton's youth system. The thoughts of everyone at the club are with his family and friends at this difficult time."



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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2018, 09:24:04 AM »
Sad.. rest in peace sir.

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Re: Jlloyd Samuel
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2018, 09:34:11 AM »
Truly sadden by this news. Prays goes up for Jlloyd's family and friends. Another rude example of how quickly a life can be taken away, RIP Jlloyd Samuel.

 

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