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Re: Dennis Lawrence was complicit as well, he needs to ride out
« Reply #570 on: December 19, 2019, 05:31:39 AM »
I doh know whether that ends Contro's misery or starts a new bout ...  :)

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I think people forget the first person to suggest Hart as head coach was myself back in the early 2000s on the old board .... jus saying

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Re: Dennis Lawrence was complicit as well, he needs to ride out
« Reply #571 on: December 19, 2019, 06:42:40 AM »
I doh know whether that ends Contro's misery or starts a new bout ...  :)

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I think people forget the first person to suggest Hart as head coach was myself back in the early 2000s on the old board .... jus saying

I don't think anyone is capable of forgetting that.
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Re: Dennis Lawrence was complicit as well, he needs to ride out
« Reply #572 on: December 19, 2019, 07:02:26 AM »
Incompetence

You’re clueless...

Naive and easily fooled tbh

Nah, Contro. Incompetence was definitely a feature of the past directorate. That stated, no one is suggesting that it was their sole characteristic. They had a combustive cocktail of decision-making. Sabotage did occur, although there are differences of opinion as to the degree and nature of the sabotage.
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Re: Dennis Lawrence was complicit as well, he needs to ride out
« Reply #573 on: December 19, 2019, 07:20:07 AM »
Incompetence

You’re clueless...

Naive and easily fooled tbh




I will wear that as a badge of honour, Leo Marvin
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Re: Dennis Lawrence was complicit as well, he needs to ride out
« Reply #574 on: December 19, 2019, 03:44:24 PM »
Terry Fenwick will be the new National team Head Coach

So I hear anyway
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Re: Dennis Lawrence was complicit as well, he needs to ride out
« Reply #575 on: December 19, 2019, 04:12:27 PM »
Incompetence

You’re clueless...

Naive and easily fooled tbh

Nah, Contro. Incompetence was definitely a feature of the past directorate. That stated, no one is suggesting that it was their sole characteristic. They had a combustive cocktail of decision-making. Sabotage did occur, although there are differences of opinion as to the degree and nature of the sabotage.

I wish it were so seeker... but this is not the case...

The dictator has shown in the past that he can be an astute businessman and can be a consummate professional in football related matters

I liken this to the example of the summit of Americas when it was held in TT, the govt of TT shut down criminals without any incidents, yes it was a limited time, yes it was a special event but this could be done year round but they don’t

Crime and corruption is profitable, this is the same with football, which is a highly political sport, control and manipulation is also attached

Incompetence is letting corrupt individuals off the hook, when it goes much deeper than that

This was entirely sabotage as I have said...

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Re: Dennis Lawrence was complicit as well, he needs to ride out
« Reply #576 on: December 19, 2019, 04:26:28 PM »
Incompetence

You’re clueless...

Naive and easily fooled tbh

Nah, Contro. Incompetence was definitely a feature of the past directorate. That stated, no one is suggesting that it was their sole characteristic. They had a combustive cocktail of decision-making. Sabotage did occur, although there are differences of opinion as to the degree and nature of the sabotage.

I wish it were so seeker... but this is not the case...

The dictator has shown in the past that he can be an astute businessman and can be a consummate professional in football related matters

I liken this to the example of the summit of Americas when it was held in TT, the govt of TT shut down criminals without any incidents, yes it was a limited time, yes it was a special event but this could be done year round but they don’t

Crime and corruption is profitable, this is the same with football, which is a highly political sport, control and manipulation is also attached

Incompetence is letting corrupt individuals off the hook, when it goes much deeper than that

This was entirely sabotage as I have said...

I think you're giving de Man more credit for sophistication than he deserves. Not to relitigate the folly but running up one's mouth with the US embassy and verbally sparring with the chargé d'affaires is not the modus operandi of a sophisticated saboteur nor is it rooted in any beneficial calculus; it was misguided ignorance that was the fruit of incompetence. At least the predecessors had the good sense not to escalate to engaging the consular and diplomatic corps.

And don't forget the self-flagellation of W Conn not going to regional competition because of the faulty club  licensing compliance. For each act of purported sabotage there are ample parallels of garden variety screwups.
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Re: Dennis Lawrence was complicit as well, he needs to ride out
« Reply #577 on: December 19, 2019, 04:29:25 PM »
Hope we can turn a new leaf...2020 looking brighter already

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Re: Dennis Lawrence was complicit as well, he needs to ride out
« Reply #578 on: December 19, 2019, 06:50:19 PM »
Incompetence

You’re clueless...

Naive and easily fooled tbh

Nah, Contro. Incompetence was definitely a feature of the past directorate. That stated, no one is suggesting that it was their sole characteristic. They had a combustive cocktail of decision-making. Sabotage did occur, although there are differences of opinion as to the degree and nature of the sabotage.

I wish it were so seeker... but this is not the case...

The dictator has shown in the past that he can be an astute businessman and can be a consummate professional in football related matters

I liken this to the example of the summit of Americas when it was held in TT, the govt of TT shut down criminals without any incidents, yes it was a limited time, yes it was a special event but this could be done year round but they don’t

Crime and corruption is profitable, this is the same with football, which is a highly political sport, control and manipulation is also attached

Incompetence is letting corrupt individuals off the hook, when it goes much deeper than that

This was entirely sabotage as I have said...

I think you're giving de Man more credit for sophistication than he deserves. Not to relitigate the folly but running up one's mouth with the US embassy and verbally sparring with the chargé d'affaires is not the modus operandi of a sophisticated saboteur nor is it rooted in any beneficial calculus; it was misguided ignorance that was the fruit of incompetence. At least the predecessors had the good sense not to escalate to engaging the consular and diplomatic corps.

And don't forget the self-flagellation of W Conn not going to regional competition because of the faulty club  licensing compliance. For each act of purported sabotage there are ample parallels of garden variety screwups.
did he intentionally set things in motion to  get rid of SH, yes, did he intend the failure of the qualification effort nah i doh tink, he used stupid calculus, to get his way and saw our qualification effort crash and burn, but I think he was hoping for a solid run with the games left, but by then too much progress had be lost, his machinations had already undermined the rhythm of the team too much.

Over dem years all I saw was ah bull in china shop.....with a blindfold, on d up side we learn dat i95 or elements within can be bought and cheaply too....and now we know all d judas' to be aware of over d next few years so watch d ride
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Re: Dennis Lawrence Thread
« Reply #579 on: February 07, 2020, 01:42:22 PM »
TTFA fails to honour Lawrence contract.
By Keith Clement (Guardian).


30 days dead­line missed with­out any com­mu­ni­ca­tion

T&T Foot­ball As­so­ci­a­tion (TTFA), head­ed by pres­i­dent William Wal­lace, is now fac­ing its first ma­jor chal­lenge af­ter it has failed to ho­n­our its first of sev­er­al con­trac­tu­al agree­ments with se­nior men's na­tion­al coach Den­nis Lawrence.

A me­dia re­lease on De­cem­ber 15, 2019, from the TTFA stat­ed that: “The ser­vices of Lawrence as na­tion­al team coach were ter­mi­nat­ed with im­me­di­ate ef­fect fol­low­ing a ma­jor­i­ty de­ci­sion by the board."

The re­lease point­ed out that the TTFA had a nine-hour board meet­ing on Sat­ur­day 14 De­cem­ber at the Ato Boldon Sta­di­um, Cou­va with its elect­ed of­fi­cers pres­i­dent Wal­lace, vice-pres­i­dents Clynt Tay­lor, Su­san War­rick and Joseph Sam Phillip and eight of 12 mem­ber del­e­gates from Cen­tral FA, East­ern FA, North­ern FA, South­ern FA, TT Pro League, TT Ref­er­ees As­so­ci­a­tion, TT Su­per League and Women’s League Foot­ball (WoLF) in­which sev­er­al de­ci­sions in­clud­ing that of coach Den­nis Lawrence were ar­rived at.

Guardian Me­dia Sports was re­li­ably in­formed by a source who is close to the sit­u­a­tion that Lawrence's con­tract has a clause that states that once he's ter­mi­nat­ed the TTFA had 30 work­ing days (Jan­u­ary 31, 2020) in which to ho­n­our all out­stand­ing con­trac­tu­al agree­ments and fur­ther, the con­tract makes pro­vi­sions for the TTFA to meet with the coach's agent, who is Eng­lish­man Mike Berry and pro­pose a set­tle­ment of­fer, how­ev­er, that was not done.

The re­lease from the TTFA al­so stat­ed that: “The TTFA pres­i­dent and Lawrence’s rep­re­sen­ta­tive(s) will meet to dis­cuss the terms of sep­a­ra­tion.”

How­ev­er, Guardian Me­dia Sports un­der­stand that the agent has not been con­tact­ed to date with an of­fer of a set­tle­ment and that Lawrence nev­er got an of­fi­cial cor­re­spon­dence from the TTFA un­til De­cem­ber 17, 2019.

Guardian Me­dia Sports was in­formed that un­der the terms of the con­trac­tu­al arrange­ments Law­er­ance can­not take le­gal ac­tion against the TTFA be­fore the mat­ter is ad­dressed through ar­bi­tra­tion and by FI­FA.

The source said that at present the TTFA does not have an ar­bi­tra­tion com­mit­tee for coach Lawrence to get im­me­di­ate re­dress which means he has to take the mat­ter di­rect­ly to FI­FA.

The source al­so point­ed out that Lawrence has a con­tract that runs un­til 2021 and the coach has not been paid for sev­er­al months.

The me­dia re­lease stat­ed: “Im­me­di­ate­ly fol­low­ing the de­ci­sion of the board, pres­i­dent Wal­lace con­tact­ed Lawrence via tele­phone to in­form him of the de­ci­sion and wished him well in his per­son­al and pro­fes­sion­al life, while al­so thank­ing him for his ser­vices to the men’s team.

Guardian Me­dia Sports ef­forts to con­tact Pres­i­dent Wal­lace by phone, text and whats app mes­sages but all proved fu­tile.

The source re­veals that the TTFA must be mind­ful of the fact that in 2016 the or­gan­i­sa­tion was threat­ened with FI­FA sanc­tions af­ter it did not ho­n­our its debt of US$210,000 to for­mer women’s na­tion­al se­nior and youth team coach Nor­we­gian Even Pellerud, who was fired back in 2010.

Even­tu­al­ly, the “So­ca War­riors” avoid­ed be­ing blanked from par­tic­i­pat­ing in the FI­FA 2022 World Cup when it paid off coach Pellerud in three tranch­es and FI­FA al­so ap­proved the or­gan­i­sa­tion's in­ter­nal au­dit and made fund­ing avail­able to the TTFA.

The 45-year-old Lawrence, who was ap­point­ed na­tion­al coach in Jan­u­ary 2017 was grilled on the na­tion­al se­nior team per­for­mance by a com­mit­tee led by Wal­lace, who be­came TTFA pres­i­dent on No­vem­ber 24. The com­mit­tee al­so com­prised Kei­th Look Loy, the chair­man of the tech­ni­cal com­mit­tee, An­tho­ny Har­ford and Aza­ad Khan.

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TTFA short on ‘Tallest’s’ $$
By Joel Bailey (Newsday).


THE TT Football Association (TTFA) is working to resolve the unpaid debts to former men’s football team coach Dennis “Tallest” Lawrence, who was fired on December 14, 2019.

Lawrence was relieved of his duties after a poor run of form which saw TT struggle at both the 2019 Concacaf Gold Cup and the Concacaf Nations League.

The TTFA, in a media release on December 15, mentioned, “The services of Lawrence were terminated with immediate effect following a majority decision by the board.

“Immediately following the decision of the board, (TTFA president William) Wallace contacted Lawrence via telephone to inform him of the decision and wished him well in his personal and professional life, while also thanking him for his services to the men’s team. The TTFA president and Lawrence’s representative(s) will meet to discuss the terms of separation.”

A newspaper report last week said Lawrence, who was owed salaries for a few months (under the tenure of then-TTFA president David John-Williams), was yet to be contacted with an offer of a settlement.

Wallace said on Monday, “We’re working on Dennis Lawrence. We’re trying to liaise with his attorney and we’re trying to find monies to pay him off. We’re in the process of hunting that down. I think that should be settled very soon.”

The TTFA has been dealing with several legal issues which have left the local governing body in a cash-strapped position.

In terms of finding the funds required to resolve the Lawrence issue, Wallace said the TTFA will have to seek sponsorship deals to boost its coffers.

Asked if that matter will be settled in a matter of weeks or months, the TTFA boss replied, “Just after Carnival we’ll address a range of things that we met when we got into office, and what we have done so far.”

Concerning the TT Under-20 women’s team, who will be engaged in a Concacaf Under-20 Women’s World Cup qualifiers in the Dominican Republic from February 22, Wallace said, “Everything is in place. They’re leaving (on Tuesday) for an 11-day camp and then they’ll play after that. The girls who are coming from North America will join them.”

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Re: Dennis Lawrence Thread
« Reply #580 on: February 07, 2020, 05:46:20 PM »
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Re: Dennis Lawrence Thread
« Reply #581 on: February 08, 2020, 07:58:37 AM »
Has DL secured a new job? If he hasn't I wonder what stopping the job offers. hmm.. poor DL, he should have left the coaching position before he get fired. Now he finding it difficult to get a new coaching gig. Another career ruined DJW.

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« Reply #582 on: February 08, 2020, 03:25:03 PM »
If there was a legally binding agreement for compensation due to early contract termination then DL should be rightfully compensated. It would be sad to see the same lack of professionalism from this administration which was demonstrated with the last. This is pretty common for these type of events. Based on this development,  I remain a little skeptical of this new regime.

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« Reply #583 on: February 08, 2020, 03:38:25 PM »
If there was a legally binding agreement for compensation due to early contract termination then DL should be rightfully compensated. It would be sad to see the same lack of professionalism from this administration which was demonstrated with the last. This is pretty common for these type of events. Based on this development,  I remain a little skeptical of this new regime.
You mean there was a particularly new regime in TT (or anywhere else for that matter)  there was never any skepticism about ? Please tell, which one was that ?   :devil:

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« Reply #584 on: February 08, 2020, 03:42:56 PM »
Point well taken LOL. I ran into that .

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« Reply #585 on: March 30, 2020, 12:25:06 PM »
The World Cup was magic for Dennis Lawrence but so was Wrexham AFC's LDV Vans Trophy win
By Richard Williams (leaderlive.co.uk)


DENNIS LAWRENCE played on the biggest stage of all but winning the LDV Vans Trophy with Wrexham still ranks among his best achievements in football.

The former centre-back became a big fans' favourite during his five years at The Racecourse and it was a spell that was not without success.

Lawrence helped Wrexham win promotion to League One in 2002-3 and two seasons later he was in the Reds' side that beat Southend United 2-0 in the LDV Vans Trophy final at The Millennium Stadium.

During his time in north Wales, Lawrence became the first Wrexham player to play at a World Cup finals, starting all three of Trinidad and Tobago's games during the 2006 tournament in Germany.

Lawrence won 89 caps and is currently head coach of the national side but winning that cup competition with Wrexham, where he still has a house in the town, means a lot to the 45-year-old.

"The LDV Vans Trophy success will always be up there and rank amongst my best achievements in my football career," said Lawrence.

"Wrexham was the first football club I came to play for in the UK so it is a club that is very close to my heart, and it was a club I was desperate to see become a successful football club.

"The World Cup is the elite and will always remain the elite because you are amongst the world's best but what you achieve for your football club, you can't deny that was a very special occasion.

"It is one that will be memorable for me for the rest of my lifetime, and for Wrexham Football Club."

Wrexham's run to the final came amidst a turbulent League One campaign.

Off the field problems meant the club entered administration and the subsequent 10-point deduction was something that the Reds never recovered from on the pitch.

Relegation was confirmed soon after that memorable day in the capital and Lawrence admits the cup win was bittersweet.

"It was one of the most memorable days in my Wrexham career and one that Wrexham as a football club will never forget," said Lawrence.

"But at the end of it all, it was bitter-sweet because we all remember well that we won the LDV Vans Trophy but we were relegated the same season.

"People just look at it and see that you have been relegated and as a player, you have to accept the burden.

"But you can't take away from the fact that we won the cup.

"What happened with the LDV Vans Trophy was fantastic and something we will remember for the rest of our lives."

Nothing could separate Wrexham and Southend in 90 minutes so the final went to extra-time where Wrexham prevailed thanks to a goal in each half from prolific striker Juan Ugarte and captain Darren Ferguson.

"We went down two days before the game to prepare," said Lawrence. "It was a fantastic game against a good opponent because they won it the season before and we managed to get a victory.

"We had a group of players that always had belief in what we were doing.

"We had a good leader in Darren and Juan couldn't stop scoring goals.

"If you have got somebody that is putting the ball in the back of the net, normally it leads to successful things and Juan was doing that."

Although Ugarte and Ferguson got the plaudits for scoring the goals, Ben Foster produced a man-of-the-match performance which did not go un-noticed.

Sir Alex Ferguson - son of the Reds' captain - was at the stadium to see Foster, on loan from Stoke, produce a string of fine saves and he signed for Manchester United at the end of the season.

"Ben was absolutely magnificent on the day and kept us in the game on many occasions," added Lawrence.

"You need people to perform in big occasions and we managed to have the players who performed on the day.

"You talk about quality players and Ben has had a good career playing in the Premier League.

"We had players that had the quality to do magical things on the said day."
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