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« on: May 31, 2013, 02:00:05 AM »
Chinese President Xi Jinping coming to T&T.
Historic visit
By Lara Pickford-Gordon
Friday, May 31 2013


In what will be an historic occasion, Chinese President Xi Jinping will arrive in Trinidad tonight for a two-day visit aimed at deepening ties with TT and the English-speaking Caribbean region. He will be accompanied by First Lady Peng Liyuan, government officials and media personnel.

Shortly after 7 pm, President Anthony Carmona, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, and Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Dookeran will welcome President Xi at the South Terminal of the Piarco International Airport on the eve of a very hectic schedule of engagements.

Also part of the ceremonial welcome will be Chief Justice Ivor Archie, members of Cabinet and Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley.

President Xi’s arrival comes just days after TT hosted US Vice-President Joe Biden and Caricom leaders for multilateral talks.

According to a media release from the Office of the Prime Minister (OPM), “both China and Trinidad and Tobago will review their existing bilateral relationship and will seek to deepen areas of trade, and investment, energy, technical cooperation, and the exchange of high level visits and cultural exchanges.”

OPM reported that TT and China were interested in strengthening the China-Caribbean cooperation and China-Latin America and Caribbean cooperation.

Persad-Bissessar and President Xi “would seek the expansion of cooperation in international affairs, including the reform of the United Nations system; reform of the international financial and trade architecture, climate change and global security.”

While in TT President Xi will meet with heads of the Caribbean Community (Caricom) who have diplomatic relations with China.

The President’s official engagements begin tomorrow at 9 am with a courtesy call on President Carmona at the National Academy for the Performing Arts (NAPA), Port-of-Spain followed by a courtesy call on Persad-Bissessar and bilateral talks. At the end of talks a media briefing will take place.

In the afternoon, President Xi meets with President of the Senate Timothy Hamel-Smith and House Speaker Wade Mark at the Parliament Building, Tower D, International Waterfront Centre. From here he proceeds to the site for the Couva Children’s Hospital, Preysal Main Road, where there will be a plaque unveiling ceremony. Persad-Bissessar and Minister of Housing and the Environment Dr Roodal Moonilal will be in attendance.

President Carmona will host a State Banquet for President Xi at the Hilton Trinidad and Conference Centre, St Ann’s.

The Chinese First Lady will have her own engagements tomorrow. After accompanying her husband for the courtesy call on President Carmona, she will attend a concert in her honour at NAPA. A few hours later she will visit the Lady Hochoy Home at Cocorite, then accompany her husband to the State banquet at the Hilton Trinidad. Newsday learnt that persons of Chinese ancestry in TT have been invited to attend.

On Sunday, Madame Peng Liyuan will visit the Yerette, Home of the Hummingbird, Maracas Valley, St Joseph, where several types of hummingbirds could be seen.

President Xi and the First Lady will depart TT around 4 pm.

China’s Ambassador to TT Huang Xingyuan said President Xi’s visit was the first to TT and the English-speaking Caribbean region since diplomatic relations were established between the two countries 39 years ago. He said the visit could be called “a visit across oceans to China’s good friends.” He said it will be a “milestone in our bilateral ties, and a major diplomatic event signifying China’s commitment to developing cooperative relations with the Caribbean countries.” China and TT established diplomatic relations in 1974 and have “wide and deep cooperation in political, economical, cultural and other fields.”

Xingyuan said China has always been “committed to friendly, sincere cooperation, mutual development and resolving difficulties together. China looked forward to TT playing a more important role regionally and internationally” when it takes over the chairmanship of Caricom. In the field of economy and trade, Xingyuan said this has improved continuously and bilateral trade had reached US$627 million in 2011, the highest ever. He said more businessmen were going to China to explore investment opportunities and a growing number of Chinese were coming to TT to establish potential business relations.

At the end of last year TT and China signed a framework agreement for a concessional loan to be used for building the children’s hospital.

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Re: Chinese President Xi Jinping coming to T&T.
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 09:05:09 PM »
let him go kamwah and eat some pow and char sui pork
soon ah go b ah lean mean bulling machine.

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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 09:40:51 PM »
let him go kamwah and eat some pow and char sui pork

So what happen to Kong Chow pow!

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Re: Chinese President Xi Jinping coming to T&T.
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2013, 01:50:29 AM »
PM PRAISES CHINA TIES
President Xi Jinping arrives for visit
By Joel Julien


Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar yesterday said Trinidad and Tobago was honoured to host President of China Xi Jinping, on his first visit to this region since being elected leader of the People’s Republic of China (PRC).

Xi arrived last night at Piarco Interna­tional Airport, accompanied by his wife, Peng Liyuan, and a number of officials and media personnel for a two-day visit.

She described the state visit as particularly historic and significant because it is the first visit of a president of the People’s Republic of China to the English-speaking Caribbean.

Persad-Bissessar said one of the aims of the visit is to set the stage for a deepening of the bilateral relationship between Trinidad and Tobago and China, in areas such as trade and investment, energy, infrastructural development, technical co-operation, tourism, and cultural and educational exchanges.

Trinidad and Tobago’s soon-to-be-established embassy in Beijing, she said, will facilitate the promotion and expansion of trade in China and further strengthen the ties that exist between the two nations.

Persad-Bissessar said she attached great importance to the relationship which Trinidad and Tobago has developed with China since the 1970s.

“The Government of Trinidad and Tobago has enjoyed over those years a truly excellent bilateral relationship that has been characterised by extensive trade in goods and services, economic and technical co-operation, and high-level visits like this one. Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs has worked closely with the Chinese Embassy in Port of Spain to foster that friendly diplomatic relationship between our two countries,” Persad-Bissessar said

She pointed out that Trinidad and Tobago has become the fifth largest import market for Chinese products.

“From China, we import everything from diesel buses, ferro-silicon manganese, iron/steel tubes and pipes, re-factory bricks, woven fabrics, and Carnival costumes.

“The value of bilateral trade between Chi­na and Trinidad and Tobago reached a histo­ric figure of US$627 million in 2011. Yes, there is an imbalance in that trade and that gap keeps getting wider. The trade deficit between our two countries was US$158.7 million in 2005 and by 2010, it jumped to US$380.9 million, both in favour of China. We would hope this gap can be reduced as our entrepreneurs in business take up the challenge of the Chinese president to increase exports to China,”Persad-Bissessar said.     


President and First Lady: Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife First Lady Peng Liyuan arrive today for a two-day State visit.

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Re: Chinese President Xi Jinping coming to T&T.
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 03:20:33 PM »


He rel get tru

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2013, 04:33:20 PM »
let him go kamwah and eat some pow and char sui pork
That sh!t restaurant??!!  stueeeepppssss

it had man selling box chinese food out of those square vans on independence sq when i was ah yuteman, which was ah trillion times better than kamwah, dem chinese ppl in T&T cyar cook like the old ones. 

back then we had the best chinese food ever!!  T&T got real fackin sorf boy, in every facet of life. the standard drop real bad in that country. it's ah damn shame.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2013, 05:21:17 PM »


He rel get tru

... and put dem together and yuh get:


Not shabby at all.

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Re: Chinese President Xi Jinping coming to T&T.
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2013, 07:43:36 PM »
well done

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2013, 09:38:13 PM »
PM PRAISES CHINA TIES
President Xi Jinping arrives for visit
By Joel Julien


Persad-Bissessar said one of the aims of the visit is to set the stage for a deepening of the bilateral relationship between Trinidad and Tobago and China, in areas such as trade and investment, energy, infrastructural development, technical co-operation, tourism, and cultural and educational exchanges.






So.....more chinese contractors?



Not shabby at all.


Dey leave she home or dey did bring she?
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2013, 10:02:16 PM »
let him go kamwah and eat some pow and char sui pork
That sh!t restaurant??!!  stueeeepppssss

it had man selling box chinese food out of those square vans on independence sq when i was ah yuteman, which was ah trillion times better than kamwah, dem chinese ppl in T&T cyar cook like the old ones. 

back then we had the best chinese food ever!!  T&T got real fackin sorf boy, in every facet of life. the standard drop real bad in that country. it's ah damn shame.
ah feel u is one ah them people that does drench they chinee food in ah tonne ah ketchup,yuh fightin prostate cancer
soon ah go b ah lean mean bulling machine.

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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2013, 10:04:03 PM »
de best food ever is shay shay tien and it had ah place bout 35years ago on one ah them streets in town....golden dragon,on like fukkin corn.
soon ah go b ah lean mean bulling machine.

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2013, 12:53:53 AM »

She pointed out that Trinidad and Tobago has become the fifth largest import market for Chinese products.

“From China, we import everything from diesel buses, ferro-silicon manganese, iron/steel tubes and pipes, re-factory bricks, woven fabrics, and Carnival costumes.


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What is wrong with this woman and her Gov't do they know about ANSI standards? am sure she do, turning a blind eye. Engineering firms don't use Chinese metal in the Petro Chemical, Power Piping and cross country Piping Industries. Chinese metal fail in several industries standards testing. TT Gov't asking for trouble. 
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2013, 03:34:59 PM »
...



Not shabby at all.

Dey leave she home or dey did bring she?

Ah doh think so.

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Re: Chinese President Xi Jinping coming to T&T.
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2013, 05:42:14 AM »
US $3b for region
No $$ for St Lucia, St Kitts, 3 others
By Juhel Browne: CCN Senior Multimedia Journalist


Caribbean Community (Caricom) countries that support the People’s Republic of China’s One China policy, including Trinidad and Tobago, are to benefit from US$3 billion in concessional loans from that country.

Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica, Suriname, Montserrat, Guyana, Barbados, The Bahamas, Grenada, Dominica, and Antigua and Barbuda support the One China policy, in which the People’s Republic of China does not recognise a separate entity called the Republic of China which administers Taiwan.

Belize, Haiti, St Vincent and the Grenadines, St Lucia, and St Kitts and Nevis maintain relations with Taiwan.

Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar informed the media of the latest financial assistance being offered by the President of the People’s Republic of China, Xi Jinping, after she attended a luncheon held at the Hilton Trinidad and Conference Centre, St Ann’s, which featured an address from Xi while he was in T&T on a three-day State visit.

“President Jinping announced at the luncheon he will be contributing US$3 billion in concessional financing for the Caricom region, so we indeed thank him for that very generous gesture. US$3 billion for infrastructure projects—US$1.5 billion, and another US$1.5 billion for other kinds of development projects in the region,” Persad-Bissessar said.

The US$3 billion parting gift from Xi comes just days after United States Vice-Presi­dent Joe Biden paid a two-day visit to Trinidad, during which he met with several Caricom Heads of Government, including Haitian President Michel Martelly, St Vincent and the Grenadines Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves and St Kitts and Nevis Prime Minis­ter Dr Denzil Douglas.

In response to a question from the media, Persad-Bissessar said the concessional financing would be limited to those Caricom States that support the One China policy.

“And that is as it should be. You would have seen that those countries that do not support the One China policy were not invited by His Excellency for the meetings, for the bi-late­rals today, and I have no difficulty with that in principle because Trinidad and Tobago has always supported the One China poli­cy, as several other countries,” Persad-Bissessar said.

Speaking through an interpreter, China’s Ambassador to Trinidad and Tobago, Huang Xingyuan, said the concessional financing may be increased in the future.

“One thing I would like to emphasise here is that the people of China will never forget their old friends, especially those friends that supported us at the crucial moments of history,” he said.

Caricom Heads of Government who attended the luncheon at the Hilton did so after Xi held bilateral meetings with each of them at the hotel.
They included Guyana’s President, Donald Ramotar; Suriname’s President, Desi Bouterse; Jamaica’s Prime Minister, Portia Simpson-Miller; Grenada’s Prime Minister, Dr Keith Mitchell; Dominica’s Prime Minister, Roosevelt Skerrit; and Prime Minister of The Bahamas Perry Christie.

Ramotar said he does see not the US$3 billion in concessional loans from People’s Republic of China to the Caricom States that support the One China policy as an attempt to gain influence internationally.

“I don’t think China has to gain influence. I think China is a powerful and influential country in the world and the question of what kind of influence to me, China has a very positive influence in the international arena and I welcome that,” Ramotar said.

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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2013, 06:46:54 AM »
Ahrm. When we go hadda pay back for that?
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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2013, 08:09:40 AM »
 I'm weary of this kind of  'generosity'.  I wonder what we signed on to. Our PM's wording makes it sound like a thinly veiled bribe. Especially since CARICOM has been saying that the US not really taking them them on at all.

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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2013, 08:34:13 AM »
I'm weary of this kind of  'generosity'.  I wonder what we signed on to. Our PM's wording makes it sound like a thinly veiled bribe. Especially since CARICOM has been saying that the US not really taking them them on at all.

Unfortunately dis de way the world does work nowadays oui....'gifts', 'investment incentives' etc
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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2013, 08:51:09 AM »
I'm weary of this kind of  'generosity'.  I wonder what we signed on to. Our PM's wording makes it sound like a thinly veiled bribe. Especially since CARICOM has been saying that the US not really taking them them on at all.

Unfortunately dis de way the world does work nowadays oui....'gifts', 'investment incentives' etc

No problem with that.

Thing is...to pay back when? How?
I dunno if my memory bad..buh I reading dis and wondering:


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“President Jinping announced at the luncheon he will be contributing US$3 billion in concessional financing for the Caricom region, so we indeed thank him for that very generous gesture. US$3 billion for infrastructure projects—US$1.5 billion, and another US$1.5 billion for other kinds of development projects in the region,” Persad-Bissessar said.

Didnt they especially have a hue and cry about chinese contractors in T&T? Who going and get dem contracts to do this infrastructural work? Other kinds of development geared towards what? Concessional financing meaning cash in hand or in services?
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Re: Chinese President Xi Jinping coming to T&T.
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2013, 09:55:26 AM »
Cant believe T&T needs a loan !!!!!

A country that is rich in oil, pitch and natural gas among other things. !!!!

Craziness !!!!

Just now the world will be in death to China, the U.S already owe them Trillions.

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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2013, 10:41:16 AM »
China breeze in, label de TnT journalist "Third World", ban dem from de sinting... and Tantie Kams jess grinning wider dan ah court jester.  Journalist dem complain to Gideon Hanoomansingh, and he take he head out chinee bamsee long enough to come back wid "maybe allyuh hear 'Third Party' instead?"

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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2013, 11:57:23 AM »
re: the loan. there wasn't an announcement of upcoming project or projects?

well, it better to be part of the new game than left on the sidelines.

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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2013, 04:05:08 PM »
I'm weary of this kind of  'generosity'.  I wonder what we signed on to. Our PM's wording makes it sound like a thinly veiled bribe. Especially since CARICOM has been saying that the US not really taking them them on at all.
Don't yuhs know that china and japan has fished out their waters to an all time low??

over fishing is ah serious issue plaguing the orient right now and the sad part about it is, their economy and life style depends heavily on sea food.

another thing that we should take into consideration is that caribbean waters is rich with plant life which in turn attracts fish, particularly T&T, which has the most fish of all the other waters in the caribbean.

i bet allyuh anything that china or japan already start trawling in our waters, and if this is the case then our leaders are a bunch of fackin knuckle heads!

there's no way that any sovereign nation should sell out the rights of their waters to allow trawling (over fishing), there's just no way!! dr williams woulda never allow that, no way!!
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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2015, 09:10:16 AM »
DOG MEAT HORROR

http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,213904.html

By Marlene Augustine Friday, July 10 2015


Go vegetarian is the advice coming from Health Minister Fuad Khan as he weighed in on the horrror of a dog being skinned by a Chinese looking man in a video which went viral on social media yesterday.

“We normally have stray dogs and one wonders if the Chinese restaurants, those which have sprung up all over the place have been serving dog meat and something else,” Khan told Newsday yesterday.

“So I think the time is right because if one becomes a vegetarian they will not end up in that position. They will lose weight. This is something we have a look at very very seriously.” Khan pointed to the number of stray dogs in this country that have disappeared, and are not seen in the dog pound. “So they have to be going somewhere,” said the Health Minister. Khan said he was very worried about what was being said about a restaurant in Diego Martin and although he felt horrified by the video, he was not surprised.

He said some of the Chinese nationals might have brought some of their culture to Trinidad and Tobago, but indicated that there is little that can be done to stop it.

“The Food and Drug Act addresses the importation of food items, but it does not cover issue like this,” Khan said. “When you mix food with MSG - vetsin that is - it softens the meat. The taste will change as well as the meat consistency, and it will look like beef, pork, or something.

So one has to be extremely careful what they are eating.” Khan went on to say, “I have been very particular because I know in China, rats, dogs and cats and other things: the Chinese public is coming down on quite a few of those people who are doing it. When I was told about the video...I was a bit worried about what is being sold.” He noted that there are no laws to protect animals at that level.

However he noted the video brought into the forefront that there have been a total wipe out of stray dogs in Trinidad and Tobago, adding, “we never had that before.” He suggested having public health inspectors going out and checking these meats.

“Now that the video has come out, people may go underground for a while, and it has to be a constant assessment,” Khan said.

Meanwhile, the Trinidad and Tobago Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (TTSPCA) is on the look out for the couple of Chinese looking men who were seen in a video on social media skinning the dog dangling from a rope.

President of the organisation, Sita Kuruvilla, revealed they are attempting to get more information about the incident depicted in the video.

“We do have some information,” Kuruvilla told Newsday yesterday.

“We are trying to verify where this incident actually occurred, and who were the people involved.” She added that when they had verification, the organisation will be going to the site to speak to whoever is in charge, basically to advise them that this is not an acceptable practice in Trinidad and Tobago, and to make sure that they stop completely.

Some reports indicate the incident occurred on the compound of a restaurant but Newsday understands the video was taken by a security guard who works on the construction site of the new Carenage Health Centre located at the corner of Constabulary Street and Western Main Road, Carenage.

Serious health concerns and questions were raised by listeners to various radio stations yesterday who called in to speak about the issue as the video went viral.

An official of the Chinese Embassy in Port-of-Spain also commented on the incident depicted in the video after viewing it yesterday. He expressed his “sincere regret for the people who did such a cruel thing.” “It is absolutely wrong to hurt animals such as dogs and cats which are our humanity’s best friend,” the official said.

The official also asked Newsday if it was possible to find out if the persons who were shown in the video are Chinese, whether the video was shot in Trinidad and Tobago, and he further questioned why the local man who shot the video did not stop the killing, asking too if he also shared the dog meat with the men who killed the animal.

“I myself personally am strongly against such a killing, because I love dogs and cats,” the Chinese official told Newsday saying he also raised a dog in his home, and not all Chinese people would do such a cruel thing.

“Actually, there are a lot of animal protection volunteers in China,” he added. “They do all their best to protect animals every day.” Explaining that there are no laws in TT to specifically deal with such an incident the TTSPCA president told Newsday, “What we do have is a Summary Offences Act which deals with animal cruelty and, as in a case like this, (where) the animal would not have been most likely treated humanely, the animal cruelty laws would apply.” Kuruvilla indicated the TTSPCA wants to take a broader approach where many different groups are doing construction in Trinidad, to ensure that it is understood on a general scale that this is not accepted practice in TT.

However, she said since they were in a difficult position as far as legislation goes, “we are going to strengthen our position by looking at whatever agencies may have some influence over an issue like this.” Kuruvilla went to say, “I know everybody is getting very workedup about it, but the only way we can prevent things like this from happening is to make it very clear where in the law states that it cannot be allowed.

They need to know that it is not a cultural practice in this country and it is not going to be tolerated by citizens of this country, and certainly not by the Animal Welfare Organisation,” Kuruvilla said.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf7mJWuXylc

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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2015, 09:59:06 AM »
What the embassy official really thinking is, "Rooks dericious!"

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2015, 10:08:13 AM »
What the embassy official really thinking is, "Rooks dericious!"

Buh Peong your name sounds Chinese. If ah din know better ... :devil:

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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2015, 10:12:10 AM »
That's how I know what he's thinking, I was thinking it too.

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Re: DOG MEAT HORROR
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2015, 02:00:05 PM »
Is it right for the writer to describe the man as "chinese" looking? Why not describe him as asian. I just nitpicking and would love to hear other views. Chinese is both a race and nationality?

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« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2015, 08:35:36 PM »
highly doubt they were skinning it to sell it...mos likely they hailed from those areas in china that consume the dogmeat and they were prepping it for themselves

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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2015, 06:41:34 AM »
Dog meat horror upsets Carenage
By Marlene Augustine Saturday, July 11 2015


Operators of Chinese restaurants went mum but Carenage residents were loud in their horror to to hear that dogs are being eaten in their community.

“No, no, no,” were the only words uttered by one Chinese restauranteur who also showed Newsday the door.

The varying moods followed the video of a dog being skinned by two Chinese looking men which went viral via social media earlier in the week, aired on national television, and reported on by Newsday yesterday, including comments and concerns on the matter made by Minister of Health, Dr Fuad Khan. The video is said to have been shot on a construction site in the Carenage area, where residents spoken to by Newsday yesterday felt that more must be done about the culture of some Chinese immigrants in Trinidad and Tobago. The incident raised concerns that dog meat may be, unknown to the public, on the menus of restaurants set up by Chinese immigrants.

A proprietor who sells food, and only gave her name as Debbie, told Newsday she felt sick when she saw the video.

“I have stopped eating their food a while, but now I am convinced that I don’t ever want to eat Chinese food again because I’m not sure what I am eating from these people. If they want to eat it fine, but don’t sell it to people who don’t want to eat it,” she said.

Another resident, who did not want to be named, said she too will never buy Chinese food again.

“I have always heard people saying that they eat that (dog meat), but now I don’t have to see any more videos or hear about it no more,” she said.

However, another said he is not surprised about the video because he knew that in their country some of the people eat the meat of various animals.

“I don’t really eat the food, but I know they eat it (dog meat) and this is not the first time,” he said. “It had a time when a dog got bounce down on the road I saw one of them came and took the dog away and the individual did not put it in the garbage,” he said.

However, Keith Mohammed yesterday visited Newsday’s head office on Chacon Street, Port-of- Spain, and noted that “It is not fair to stigmatise the Chinese people in the community of Carenage. I have been into some of the restaurants in the area, and you can see they are not happy about the incident. It is not all Chinese eat dog. People eat catfish which feeds on faeces and manicou. They also eat iguanas and for people to be saying these harsh things about Chinese people in TT, that is being cruel,” he said.

Animal rights activist Nalini Dial says “if you need to sell canine meat to the public, you need to advertise it on the menu.”

“If people wish to try it just as we see rabbit meat being sold in supermarkets, we don’t really like that but if people want to eat that (dog meat) the people must know what they are eating,” Dial said. “If they like it after they have tried it and acquired the taste, it is their choice to eat it regularly and to eat it they can order it. But it needs to be advertised on the menu just as they would advertise chicken, pork and whatever they served.”

However, Dial said as an activist she was concerned over where they were obtaining the dogs and how the dogs were being put down before preparation for eating, and if this is being sold at restaurants.

“We understand that the dogs are skinned alive,” Dial said. “This is inhumane and cruel and these people can be charged under the Summary Offences Act 1918.” Meanwhile, former president of the Supermarkets Association, Balliram Maharaj, said yesterday that there were no words to express how he felt when he saw the video.

“I felt so sick and disgust when I saw the video,” he said. “I was having dinner when I saw the video being aired on television and I just could not continue to eat. I know for a fact now I don’t want no part of any type of meat again.” When Newsday tried to get a response from various Chinese restaurants on the Western Main Road, St James, no one wanted to comment on the incident.

One effort in a Chinese Supermarket located in St James, was met with raised hands by one of the sales clerk and a terse “No, no, no” while showing Newsday the doorway of the establishment.

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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2015, 05:45:49 PM »

 :)

We don't serve dog meat

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150710/news/chinese-restaurants-we-dont-serve-dog-meat

Chinese restaurant employees are slamming Minister of Health Dr Fuad Khan for what they call his “uneducated” and “irresponsible” statements regarding Chinese food.

Khan, who was weighing in on video footage of Chinese men skinning a dog, which went viral on social media last week, was reported as suggesting there was a link between a decrease in stray dogs on the streets and an increase in Chinese restaurants all over the country.

“We normally have stray dogs and one wonders if the Chinese restaurants, those which have sprung up all over the place, have been serving dog meat and something else,” Khan told Newsday.

He further said Chinese seasonings could change the taste and texture of the dog meat.

“When you mix food with MSG—vetsin, that is—it softens the meat. The taste will change as well as the meat consistency, and it will look like beef, pork or something.”

Worried about impact

However, employees at several Chinese restaurants in Port of Spain yesterday described the comments as “ignorant, uneducated and irresponsible”.

Manco Qui, an employee at the popular Me Asia Chinese Restaurant on Ariapita Avenue, said he was disgusted by the insinuation and worried about the impact it would have on Chinese food businesses.

Qui said despite the belief that eating dogs is a part of Chinese culture, it was a misconception that all Chinese people eat dogs.

“We don't serve dogs,” he said. “It is a false belief that all Chinese people eat dogs. Killing dogs is cruel and we believe anybody who kills a dog should be punished.”

Qui said he saw the video and wanted to point out that the men in the video were Chinese construction workers and not restaurant workers, and were most likely preparing the dog for their own consumption. He was adamant Chinese restaurants would not serve dog meat to the public.

Asked if sales had been affected since the video began circulating, Qui said not at all.

At another popular restaurant on Maraval Road, a female employee who asked not to be named said Khan's comments were “uneducated”.

She added that despite the video now being circulated, it was not a recent video. “I had that video on my phone months ago,” she said.

While she too expressed concern about the impact Khan's comments would have, she said it was business as usual at the restaurant.

“Nobody has complained to us. People come in and make jokes about it, but sales have not been affected.”

The Express checked with several other Chinese restaurants in the capital city yesterday, where it was also business as usual.

Customers could be seen enjoying their meals.

Mosos Nnaji, who purchased a midday meal of rice, chow mein and chicken at a restaurant on lower Henry Street, said he would continue to buy Chinese food because it is affordable and tasty.

“I don't believe what they say about the dogs,” he said.

Another customer said he didn't care either way. “If it's dog, it tasting good,” he said, as he placed his order.

Efforts to contact Khan yesterday were unsuccessful.

TTSPCA: Respect

Trinidad culture

President of the Trinidad and Tobago Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (TTSPCA) Sita Kuruvilla yesterday said Chinese nationals in Trinidad must have respect for Trinidad culture.

Speaking with the Express via telephone, Kuruvilla said while eating dogs may be a cultural norm for the Chinese, it is unacceptable here, as dogs are considered companions.

“Culturally in Trinidad, people don't eat dogs. We view them as companions. In Trinidad, it's not acceptable in our culture. You don't go to somebody else's country and do something that flies in the face of the culture of that country. If people come into Trinidad, ideally they should try to abide by the cultural norms.”

She said while there weren't any laws to prevent the eating of dogs in this country, there is a Summary Offences Act dealing with cruelty to animals which may apply in these cases.

“We don't know the conditions under which these dogs were caught or killed, so that may actually constitute cruelty to animals,” she said.

Kuruvilla said the TTSPCA was appalled at the contents of the video and is currently trying to verify where the incident took place.

No decrease in stray dogs

She also took issue with Khan's comments, calling them “uninformed”. She said while there may have been an increase in Chinese restaurants, there has been no substantial decrease in stray dogs in Trinidad.

“People keep telling us that they have been seeing a decline in the stray dog population. We recognise that on the main highways you don't see as many dogs, but from our work we know that in communities and recreational areas, there are lots of stray dogs. The regional corporations continue to pick up stray dogs. They pick up somewhere in the region of 4,000 stray dogs a year,” she said.

Another 4,000 dogs are relinquished to the TTSPCA each year, she said, in addition to those brought into other animal welfare organisations.

“There is no shortage of stray dogs in the country at this time and those statements were not based on any facts at all,” she said.

 

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