Romania defeats Warriors.

[Flex]

Romania defeats Warriors.
By Inshan Mohammed.

Trinidad and Tobago national men's football team got a 4-0 spanking on Tuesday from a well respected Romanian side at the National Arena in Bucharest.

The Romanians got an hat-trick from Schalke 04 striker Ciprian Marica in the 31st, 33rd and 82nd minute respectively while T&T defender Daneil Cyrus added the final nail in the coffin with an own goal in the 83rd to seal the win for the Europeans.

Romania were technically superior while T&T, who started off with a surprising 4-4-2 format looked disorganized but showed fight from an individual aspect- they just could not get their acts together as they fell apart and deteriorated as the match progressed.

The Soca Warriors did however show some individual grit in the second half but noting really menacing enough to trouble the Romanian side as the Europeans ran away with a comfortable 4-0 victory in the first ever meeting between both nations.

Romania are using the game to prepare for their 2014 World Cup qualifications while Trinidad and Tobago is preparing for the 2013 Concacaf Gold Cup.

Next up T&T faces Estonia in Tallinn on Friday.

Teams

Trinidad & Tobago: - 1.Marvin Phillip, 3.Joevin Jones (Yellow 18), 4.Justin Hoyte, 5.Radanfah Abu Bakr, 6.Daneil Cyrus, 10.Kevin Molino (8.Ataullah Guerra 54th), 11.Kevon Carter, 12.Darryl Roberts (19.Shahdon Winchester 71st), 14.Andre Boucaud (Yellow 16) (13.Cornell Glen 78th), 18.Densill Theobald (capt) (7.Christopher Birchall 71st - vice-capt), 9.Devorn Jorsling (15.Jamal Gay 54th).

Coaches: - Hutson Charles and Jamaal Shabazz.

Romania: - 1.Bogdan Lobont (capt), 2.Alexandru Măţel (4.Srgian Luchin 46th), 3.Răzvan Raţ (Yellow 41), 5.Nicolae Grigore (18.Hoban Ovidiu 46th), 8.Costin Lazăr (16.Nistor Dan 66th), socawarriors.net, 9.Ciprian Marica, 11.Gabriel Torje, 15.Dorin Goian (21.Dragoș Grigore 46th), 17.Valerică Găman, 19.Bogdan Stancu (Yellow 20) (6.Adrian Stoian 83rd), 22.Aurelian Chiţu (7.Grozav Gheorghe 46th).

Coach: - Victor Piţurcă.

Goalscorers: - Ciprian Marica 31, 33, 82, Daneil Cyrus 49 own-goal.

Venue: - National Arena, Bucharest.

Referee: - Milorad Mazic (Serbia and Montenegro).

Temperature: -  23°C.

Video: - Post Match Comments - Jamaal Shabazz.


Full report to follow.

[Bakes]

...at least we score.

[Deeks]

...at least we score.

why you so!

[just cool]

Say what allyuh want about jamal, one things for sure is he doh have ah big boy fack the supporter attitude like latapy and other coaches in the past.

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he was more than willing to discuss things in great detail, something that latas never did, so hats off to shabbaz, the man trying his best, don't know if his best is good enough though.

[Preacher]

He want to put Shadon in front of Glen?   No reason to be experimenting to much.  Play your big boys..Why you jumbieing Glen so?

[just cool]

He want to put Shadon in front of Glen?   No reason to be experimenting to much.  Play your big boys..Why you jumbieing Glen so?

the man said that glenn is not fit, so he has to know since he's the coach.

did you see glenn vs peru, the man did a lousy job alone up front. glenn is also not fully fit, so why not use ah fitter in form striker, that makes plenty sense IMO, after all it's ah friendly, so why not experiment?

[Sando]

13. You are a striker so obviously you need good service and T&T isn't a team that offers too much of that. Not to mention the system the coaches use with one striker on top, makes it even more difficult for a striker to score goals. In your humble opinion what would you like to see the national team coaches do more to help make you and your teammates a better team, or a more successful one?
CG: I believe the lone striker can work. We have the players to provide service; the coaches need to find the best mix in midfield. I think this is one of the best crop of young midfielders we've had in a very long time and its going to be a very difficult selection. With the likes of Joevin Jones, Hughtun Hector, Kevin Molino, Ataullah Guerra and Khaleem Hyland just to name a few it's not going to be an easy task for the Coaches.

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=59760.msg854574#msg854574

[Tallman]

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[just cool]

all dem goals was savable, sorry marvin, but yuh eh ready yet.

i sure beenhakker take off after than abysmal first half.

[Rastaman]

First goal: Where were the rest of the defense or the team for that matter ?? even after the goal score not another TnT player in the picture. It was like 4vs2.
Second goal: maybe the keeper's at his first post.
Third Goal: Hard luck there with the deflection of of Cyrus.
Forth Goal: The number 4 (Hoyte I believe) caught ball watching and allowed a free header in the box. AND Jones on the line needed to react faster and head that out.

From the rest of the highlights it seems that we got in their half a few times, would have been interesting to see the game and the flow and ball possession.

With a made up defense like what we had I am not totally surprised at the nature of the goals conceded.
At least they playing more than one game because it hard to go so far and only get one chance to show what you can do(Hoyte)

[Deeks]

Man, TTFF should have set up 2 games at homes for next week. The friggin' football season done. Everybody, except the ones who "injured" should be available. They could have gotten Venezuela as one of the teams. They right dey. Jump in the coast guard pirog and we in Ven. But leh we see how they play against Estonia.

[soccerman]

The big Leo was in attendance

[King Deese]

I did not see the game but I beg the question. Did the team look rudderless and adrift like the last three international friendlies against Peru and Belize?
At what point in your friendlies do you come to win the game instead of just playing to learn something. It is obvious to a lot of people including myself that both the team and the coaching staff have learned very little. However, the perception is that the lesson learned indicates that the team cannot win with the current coaching staff and the coaching staff cannot win the big games with this team.
Every great coach has a philosophy about playing the game to win and yes they may go about it differently-driven by ideas and cause-tactically, social and sporting. Some see a direct correlation between the team's approach to the game and the economic crisis-the effort, the work, the planning, the concentration and the discipline-to them it all makes sense, the manner in which you play should be a demonstration of the respect you have for the people that pay to see you play, and of course the other great coaches see things differently, but one thing is constant. The will to win.
Vince Lombardi said, "Winning isn't everything, it is the only thing"
Hank Stram, KC Chiefs said, "Just win, baby"
Pat Guardiola, winner of 14 titles at Barca in 4 years, described Barca's football under him as "audacious"
Sir Alex said he just wanted his team to reflect his personality which he described as "the will to win"
Under this current coaching double header none of those qualities are easily identifiable because they don't exist.

[Deeks]

I eh no Shabazz fan, but we should give him the benefit of doubt. Our football team seem to be perpetually changing players. Because some of our players go abroad, for a multiple reason we could never get all of them together for games. Is either one  half for one game and the other half for the next.  And they playing all corners of the planet. We can't even get our US based players, farless, Euro and East Asia. How do we account for Hoyt and Boucaud. These mean have to get a tryout to be able to gel with the team. How often do Shabazz have them men together. Like I have said before, the TTFA should have arranged a home and away series with Venezuela. We would have had 4 games under belts and we would see the consistencies of all the players. But I am disappointed Hyland and the Eastern Euro bunch not in this mixup. Also JLloyd and Cato should be on this squad.

Deese, I eh trying to be picky, but is Al Davis, co-owner of the Raiders, who said, 'Just win Baby'.

Guardiola and Fergusion were club coaches. They have more time to mold players. National coaches don't have the luxury of time on their hands. So you see the predicament Shabazz in. Now if the whole team was based on AIA, that would be a different case.

[MEP]

Deeks ..what crap yuh torking give him benefit of what doubt...Shabazz is a big coach...de man have pedigree yuh eh see he leave Guyana to coach TnT.... even with 2 weeks if yuh cyah articulate and demand how you want your defense as well as the rest of yuh team to play...what good of a coach are you? is not like he coaching little boy

[Torry1]

I saw the match live in the stadium. At times our passing was clean and precise but we were not penetrating enough and more often looked like a dis-jointed side. I understand it was a friendly, but oh gawd fellers, show some enthusiasm and the winning spirit of T&NT to want to succeed. Worst of the night was Number 3 Joevin Jones. He never knew what to do with the ball and never used the space when he had the opportunity. Back in the days I saw more flowing passes and team skills at an Intercol Match

[just cool]

I saw the match live in the stadium. At times our passing was clean and precise but we were not penetrating enough and more often looked like a dis-jointed side. I understand it was a friendly, but oh gawd fellers, show some enthusiasm and the winning spirit of T&NT to want to succeed. Worst of the night was Number 3 Joevin Jones. He never knew what to do with the ball and never used the space when he had the opportunity. Back in the days I saw more flowing passes and team skills at an Intercol Match

He was playing out of position torry, actually he's a CM playing as a full back. could you give us an analysis of the players that you saw, and who impressed you the most of our players?

[MEP]

I saw the match live in the stadium. At times our passing was clean and precise but we were not penetrating enough and more often looked like a dis-jointed side. I understand it was a friendly, but oh gawd fellers, show some enthusiasm and the winning spirit of T&NT to want to succeed. Worst of the night was Number 3 Joevin Jones. He never knew what to do with the ball and never used the space when he had the opportunity. Back in the days I saw more flowing passes and team skills at an Intercol Match

I saw the match on a tiny screen on my laptop...and TnT played crap....no defensive organization no transition either way....played like a pick up side

[coache]

What is this plan Shabba goin to devise?

[Trini _2026]

2ND HALF ONLY

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[Deeks]

Deeks ..what crap yuh torking give him benefit of what doubt...Shabazz is a big coach...de man have pedigree yuh eh see he leave Guyana to coach TnT.... even with 2 weeks if yuh cyah articulate and demand how you want your defense as well as the rest of yuh team to play...what good of a coach are you? is not like he coaching little boy

Bro, I eh no apologist for Shabazz, but this is the first game for some, playing for TT. I don't think some of the guys were with the team for 2 weeks. Maybe the locals. But you right, he needs to articulate some urgency with this team. Look, when Beenie man was in charge, we played Greneda a friendly and we barely beat them. Men find we weren't doing this, doing that. But as time went on, the team improved tremendously. Why? Because Don Leo had plenty time to stamp his image on the team. How often does Shabazz and Charles have the team. How often they have a core group of players. Our best players are overseas, scattered all over the globe. Have we ever had all of them together for one game?  No

[elan]

Coaching education (not that c license thing they peddling around) is what we need badly. It seems that we lack more modern positional tactical movements and understanding. The interaction of the different lines both horizontally and vertically escapes us. This shows in our lack of support for the player on the ball, almost always numbers down in attack, not being in a positions on attack to transition defensively and vice versa, etc.

Our youth coaches (ssfl & pfl) needs to be addressed forthwith. These coaches need to be constantly supplied with coaching education from various federations. Something needs to be done as players can only be blamed for so long. At some point we have to look deeper, at the instructions these players receive at a young age, the environment that is created for them to develop in, the future that is presented to them.

What are we doing and how are we going about doing it?

[lefty]

Coaching education (not that c license thing they peddling around) is what we need badly. It seems that we lack more modern positional tactical movements and understanding. The interaction of the different lines both horizontally and vertically escapes us. This shows in our lack of support for the player on the ball, almost always numbers down in attack, not being in a positions on attack to transition defensively and vice versa, etc.

Our youth coaches (ssfl & pfl) needs to be addressed forthwith. These coaches need to be constantly supplied with coaching education from various federations. Something needs to be done as players can only be blamed for so long. At some point we have to look deeper, at the instructions these players receive at a young age, the environment that is created for them to develop in, the future that is presented to them.

What are we doing and how are we going about doing it?

endorsed

[coache]

So what is de first step? Not fire Shabazz?

[D.H.W]

So what is de first step? Not fire Shabazz?

Yes i think the whole forum agrees with you on that 

[coache]

Ok good..now  for the time being we will fire Shabazz with immediate effect before the next game, while handing Hutson Charles the reins on an interim basis .
We must not waste any more time in this endeavour. We must bear in mind that Charles was doing a fine job before Shabazz stepped in. We would have finished first place had it not been for Shabba's inclusion which brought only mayhem and confusion.
We are in a rebuilding stage, we not trying to qualify for WC 2014 so there's no need to rush and spend so much money in bringing back Beenhaaker.
The money that we would  be spent on Beenhaaker spend on the youth development that many of you just talked about.
Let us build on our past successes by learning from our  mistakes let's not keep making these same mistakes over and over.
Let's build with our locals first then if we need help to go WC 2018 then we could look at outside help .
Look  how Nigeria won the African Nations cup with a local coach. Let's build local with local ideas. Foreign ideas can be used to help accentuate our ideas and should not be used as a replacement.

[Coop's]

The reports/views i'm following here from posters on the Forum is nothing new from previous games,after every game u hear the same complaints.
I have said it before,we will continue to have these problems because T&T needs players,the players we have not ready for high level competition,our players individually does well playing on various teams but our problem is when we have to play together as a team.
We complain about our Coaches too much,these guys are not magicians,they can't make blood out of stone,coaching a T&T team isn't fun any more because u have nothing to work with,check the amount of Cocahes both foreign/local we have had in the past few years,with the exception of Benie none were successful dosn't that tell you all something,imagine we have a list of 35 players plus some who was not available and we can't produce a respectable national team,one set of crap about who fit and eh fit etc etc these are players alyu always boasting about.
Everybody on here have a formula,strategy,plan etc etc for our Football,the only ppl that don't have one are the ppl who controls the game in the country,ever since i know T&T Football our policy has always been to fly in players at the last minuit to represent us,so when we talking about long term preperation i don't know what we talking about,what pulled us out in the past was the ability of the players we had but now a days we don't have that kind of player,the blood sweat and tears type of player.
I support my country i support anything to do with Football,i hate ppl putting down the players and team because these guys don't go out there to loose,most of all i think they are trying their best is just that the mentality of Footballers in our country have to change,gone are the days when we were a force to be recommend with,nobody respects T&T any more,the players today have to regain that.   

[MEP]

The reports/views i'm following here from posters on the Forum is nothing new from previous games,after every game u hear the same complaints.
I have said it before,we will continue to have these problems because T&T needs players,the players we have not ready for high level competition, our players individually does well playing on various teams but our problem is when we have to play together as a team.
We complain about our Coaches too much,these guys are not magicians,they can't make blood out of stone,coaching a T&T team isn't fun any more because u have nothing to work with,check the amount of Cocahes both foreign/local we have had in the past few years,with the exception of Benie none were successful dosn't that tell you all something,imagine we have a list of 35 players plus some who was not available and we can't produce a respectable national team,one set of crap about who fit and eh fit etc etc these are players alyu always boasting about.
Everybody on here have a formula,strategy,plan etc etc for our Football,the only ppl that don't have one are the ppl who controls the game in the country,ever since i know T&T Football our policy has always been to fly in players at the last minuit to represent us,so when we talking about long term preperation i don't know what we talking about,what pulled us out in the past was the ability of the players we had but now a days we don't have that kind of player,the blood sweat and tears type of player.
I support my country i support anything to do with Football,i hate ppl putting down the players and team because these guys don't go out there to loose,most of all i think they are trying their best is just that the mentality of Footballers in our country have to change,gone are the days when we were a force to be recommend with,nobody respects T&T any more,the players today have to regain that.   

cosign

but these same coaches have to take it upon themselves to come up with a plan for success and it must be two prong i. they need to develop players to play at this level ii. they must find ways of educating themselves to coach at this level.

[coache]

Mr Cooper I have much respect for you and  the contributions you have made to Trinidad football, however football players mentality have changed over the years.
Long ago a coach just had to put a player in a position and that was it..the player would perform beyond your expectations..nowadays the players have the ability but they need direction and leadership...yuh literally have to read and spell for them..yuh have to motivate dem and get into their brain..that takes a special type of coach.
These players we have are the best we can get..some have better qualities than others..none have all the qualities but all have potential to be better I can see that.
Despite the result I am still proud of the players I saw out there yesterday..personally I feel they did well against such a difficult opponent..I felt that with better leadership and guidance we would have seen a better game not necessarily a better result but a better performance.

[Deeks]

Guys allyuh talking about long ago the coach could just put in a player and he perform. With the exception of about 4 or 5 pros playing in the US at the time, all our players were local. It was easier then. Now we have 2 foreign born playing for the first time. Then Abu Bakr making a return after how long. Plus men like Hector, Samuel, Hyland, Cato could not make it. Allyuh think one week of touch football is good enough. I am not an apologist for Shabazz. If we had a foreign coach, we still might have gotten 4. Let see how they do against Estonia.