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ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« on: June 13, 2013, 08:17:16 PM »
Rain threat looms over crucial tie
The Preview by Firdose Moonda at Cardiff
June 13, 2013
http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2013/content/current/story/641505.html

Match Facts
Friday, June 14, 2013, Cardiff
Start time 10.30am (10:30 local | 09:30 GMT | 05:30 EDT | 04:30 CDT | 02:30 PDT)


Big Picture
A glance at Cardiff's pregnant skies is enough to set the tone for the knockout clash between South Africa and West Indies and it is not a positive one. What should be a fascinating clash between a team that dominates outside of major tournaments and a team trying to recreate their glory days may not even happen. If it does, it is likely to be interrupted by rain.

Should the wet weather have the final say, South Africa will progress by virtue of a better net run-rate but they will not want to go into the real knockouts in such fortunate circumstances. Neither will West Indies want to exit the tournament in a drizzle of disappointment, although they have two poor batting performances to blame for their current standing in the group.

While South Africa showed improvement, particularly in the bowling department, in their second game, West Indies remained static. As a result, they have not managed a total of even 240 so far and against South Africa, it would be safe to assume, they may need many more to win.

But this is not a normal occasion for South Africa; this is a pressure game and that alone could scramble their minds. Even if Dale Steyn is fit and firing, their main battle will be with themselves as they try to rewrite their reputations as big-game bloopers.

West Indies will fancy themselves more than usual, especially because they have been the team that have put South Africa out of tournaments the most. On three occasions, they have been responsible for South Africa taking the next flight home and their cavalier confidence has often given them the edge over a team paranoid of failure.

Form guide
(Most recent first)
South Africa: WLWWL
West Indies: LWWWW

In the Spotlight
There hasn't been much opportunity for a finisher like David Miller to show what he is capable of. The "in the arc, out of the park" hitter has had mixed results in a tournament where run-scoring has tapered as innings go on, but team management remains confident Miller will be able to make an impact at some point. Given a firm foundation and licence to thrill, it may be his big day.

Sunil Narine has encountered South Africans at the IPL but has never played against South Africa and he may well be relishing the opportunity. Despite reams of video evidence, Narine remains difficult to pick - with both his offbreak and doosra bowled out of the front of the hand and made trickier by his pace. Although the stereotype about South Africa's batsmen being spun into submission doesn't apply anymore, he could still cause ample problems for a team under pressure.

Team news
With Dale Steyn declared fit and available, South Africa will likely go in with four seamers, one specialist spinner in Robin Peterson and JP Duminy as an allrounder. That will mean only one change for them with Colin Ingram occupying the top spot ahead of specialist opener Alviro Petersen and Farhaan Behardien missing out again.

South Africa: (probable) 1 Colin Ingram, 2 Hashim Amla, 3 Faf du Plessis, 4 AB de Villiers (capt, wk), 5 JP Duminy, 6 David Miller, 7 Ryan McLaren 8 Robin Peterson 9 Chris Morris, 10 Dale Steyn/Aaron Phangiso, 11 Lonwabo Tsotsobe

An unchanged XI is expected and with Denesh Ramdin still suspended, Johnson Charles will keep wickets again.

West Indies: (probable) 1 Chris Gayle, 2 Johnson Charles (wk), 3 Darren Bravo, 4 Marlon Samuels, 5 Ramnaresh Sarwan, 6 Dwayne Bravo (capt), 7 Kieron Pollard, 8 Darren Sammy, 9 Sunil Narine, 10 Ravi Rampaul, 11 Kemar Roach

Pitch and conditions
Rain fell consistently throughout Wednesday and Thursday and more showers are forecast for match day with a window of clear weather predicted only between 2pm and 5pm. That could be enough to squeeze in a 20-over shootout, but both teams will want more than that. Should play take place, the moisture is likely to make conditions conducive for the pacers.

The ground has seen one run-fest between India and South Africa and one low-scoring scuffle between Sri Lanka and New Zealand, but both took place before the rains. So fairly fresh conditions can be expected for this match.

Stats and Trivia
  • Chris Gayle has scored three hundreds against South Africa, two of them in losing causes.
  • Three of the 12 ODIs played at Sophia Gardens have been washed out - 25%. South Africa have been involved in two of those.

Quotes
"They know if they lose, they are going back home. They have a tag of being chokers that do well in big tournaments, so that would be added pressure on them."
West Indies captain Dwayne Bravo

"They always say batting second is easier when there is a bit of weather around. I'm not too fussed about that. Whether we play a shortened game or a normal game, it's all about focus and team intensity off the field."
South African captain AB de Villiers

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2013, 03:14:01 AM »
Rain. Leh we play a t20 and done
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2013, 04:31:53 AM »
We need to play (and win) this match otherwise we're out.

South Africa - NRR: +0.410
West Indies  - NRR: -0.086   

In the event of teams finishing on equal points in its Group, the right to play in the semi-finals will be decided in the following order of priority:

  • The team with the more wins in the Group stage will be placed in the higher position.
  • If there are teams with equal points and equal wins in the Group stage then in such case the team with the higher net run rate in the Group stage will be placed in the higher position.
  • If still equal, the team which was the winner of the head to head match played between them will be placed in the higher position.
  • In the highly unlikely event that teams cannot be separated by the above this will be done by drawing lots.
  • If all of the matches within a Group are a no result, the top two seeded teams will progress to the semi-finals.
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2013, 05:28:37 AM »
westindies (@westindies) tweeted at 7:20 AM on Fri, Jun 14, 2013:
#WIvSA: Pitch inspection planned for 1245 pm (745 East Caribbean/645 Jamaica). We will know what the real deal is. #ct13 #BigUpWindies
(https://twitter.com/westindies/status/345501069624889346)


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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2013, 05:58:07 AM »
WindiesIntl (@WindiesIntl) tweeted at 7:42 AM on Fri, Jun 14, 2013:
#WIvSA: SUN! yes, the sun is out in Cardiff! Groundstaff doing a great job and we can expect some action later today. #ct13 #BigUpWindies
(https://twitter.com/WindiesIntl/status/345506501978378241)

westindies (@westindies) tweeted at 7:51 AM on Fri, Jun 14, 2013:
RT @firdosem: Good news! All covers off. #savwi
(https://twitter.com/westindies/status/345508708391976962)

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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2013, 06:21:13 AM »
West Indies have won the toss and decided to bowl first. So South Africa can't misread the D/L table now. Kemar Roach is ill. Tino Best is in. Ramnaresh Sarwan is finally dropped, for Devon Smith.
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2013, 06:26:41 AM »
36 overs
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2013, 06:32:08 AM »
Rain again.
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2013, 07:22:34 AM »
31 overs. Play ready to start
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2013, 08:59:07 AM »
124/2.

Pollard! Ingram had to go! He already do too much damage
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2013, 10:06:54 AM »
231 to win, depending on the rain.
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2013, 10:13:12 AM »
Gayle better make over 50 today. Fedup with the bullshit
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2013, 10:56:37 AM »
We need more ones and twos. Come on fellas; then again, Gayle is lead-footed and may have an injury according to the commentators.

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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2013, 11:25:37 AM »
Gayle out 36 .lord boy
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2013, 11:27:23 AM »
75 - 2
11overs

Smith and Samuel please bat more than 12overs
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2013, 11:39:05 AM »
DRS is rel bullshit boy
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2013, 11:47:27 AM »
DRS is rel bullshit boy

To be fair, I thought Smith looked out when I saw the delivery at regular speed and that he was fortunate not to be given out. I think the rain was playing on his mind

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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2013, 12:41:49 PM »
Are we down to Sammy saving us?

190/6
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2013, 12:45:31 PM »
Uh-oh
What does this mean?
Windies are on the Par score.

If the game ends, then we're out I think.
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2013, 12:48:32 PM »
Are we down to Sammy saving us?

190/6

No need for Pollard to play that shot. The runs/balls ratio was more than manageable

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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2013, 12:51:02 PM »
As far as I can tell, It's over.
we're out on Net Run rate.
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2013, 12:58:59 PM »
It's official.
Tied match on D/L. South Africa go through
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2013, 01:04:59 PM »
Stupid f**king decision by Polly .. one shot put us out yes.. jesus christ

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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2013, 01:07:48 PM »
Cah blame Pollard alone. Plus we were playing to make the runs. The sky was clear at the time.
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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2013, 01:09:31 PM »
It's official.
Tied match on D/L. South Africa go through

Done in by the English weather and some bad shots in the end.

Oh well, it was a valiant effort, all things considered.

However, the West Indies team needs to relearn 50-over cricket

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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2013, 01:27:20 PM »
I think we coudda make the runs...S Africa was getting nervous too.  Damn Pollard!  But how was he to know that it would rain.

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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2013, 04:10:19 PM »
Pollard still want back that shot. Johnson Charles played a worst shot and de run out was a killer.

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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2013, 04:03:44 AM »
I doh care wah Pollard do ah still feel dat the DL shit be chucked out of cricket.How d f**k we should be counted as losers in a match that we were on par with.They say it's all down to resources,meaning how many batsmen out at the time.Well forgive me but didn't we have nuff resources to make 1 BLOODY RUN,the next thing when the rain started the Saffies all run off the field,I think the umpires didn't act fairly and was just waiting fuh dat.They jess couldn't stand the idea that the boys from the Caribbean wudda win this thing.f**k ALL AH DEM!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:

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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2013, 04:06:29 AM »
AND PLEASE AH DOH WAN TO HEAR NOTING BOUT NET RASS CLART FACKIN RUN RATE. :cursing:

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Re: ICC CT: South Africa v West Indies, June 14, 2013
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2013, 04:39:26 AM »
The rain was light. The umpires didn't even let the over finish.
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