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The tale of three coaches, the TTFF , J.W. and ah List
« on: May 26, 2007, 08:31:05 PM »
 Now is the time to  provide some scenarios involving the power, prestige, and influence of a coach's stature when working with the TTFF.  How do you think it would play out if Beenie was in this situation?  Here is my first scenario:

BSC: "Mr. JW. I need to have these players to have any success in the Gold Cup"

J.W. 'haul yur arse; and do the best with what ah give yuh"


Wim : Mr. J.W here is my list of  requested players

J.W.: Wim all dem man yuh asking for on a' black list; here leh Camps  find some other men fuh yuh. If ah pay them men what they want; ah cyar give yuh the bonus to stay  here.

Beenie: Jack, where are the players I demanded?

J.W.: Ah playing a little game of 'cat and mouse' hold on ah go pull ah last minute thing and we go see.

Beenie: Fu ..k you I am off to Poland.


Moral: local coach: TTFF will tell you what to do; Foreign 'no name coach: TTFF go play with yuh head; Big time coach  eh standing for TTFF b.s.
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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF, J.W. and ah List
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2007, 09:15:56 PM »
Ok leh meh hear or read your scenario ? same topic.

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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF, J.W. and ah List
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2007, 10:44:34 PM »
ok leh meh keep meh creative satirical pieces going:

All due respect to Sparrow: Congo man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ4V61PUS-g&mode=related&search=

Who dey who dey
This is a story of a team making it all the way to the W.C.
From the twin nations of TNT

Lyrics to Congo  man

A team of Warriors working to make it to the W.C.
Playing all kinda friendlies in last minute fix
They wuck  so hard
To make it dey
They thought that they would get big pay

Chrous:
I envy the  FIFA man
Ah wish ah coulda go and shake ‘e han
All you know how much effort ah make
reading peeping trying to make meh take
Ah want more more ;tell meh how ah go get
'cause ah never make ah TT million yet


Travelling all through Germany
Hoping at the end fuh big money
But instead they find themselves at the mercy of
Ah money dictator
Chrous

I envy the  FIFA man
Ah wish ah coulda go and shake ‘e han
All you know how much effort ah make
reading peeping trying to make meh take
Ah want more more ;tell meh how ah go get
'cause ah never make ah TT million yet


How they end up in the hands of the mighty dictator?
He did so well
They under he spell
Yuh know them players play till they almost upset big teams
But they never get their dream
Chrous

I envy the  FIFA man
Ah wish ah coulda go and shake ‘e han
All you know how much effort ah make
reading peeping trying to make meh take
Ah want more more ;tell meh how ah go get
'cause ah never make ah TT million yet



Make a black list and keep them out
The man showing what he about
Tie them down
Move them along
The dictator eh have no shame
Cause he know TTFF is he game

Chrous

I envy the  FIFA man
Ah wish ah coulda go and shake ‘e han
All you know how much effort ah make
reading peeping trying to make meh take
Ah want more more ;tell meh how ah go get
'cause ah never make ah TT million yet
« Last Edit: May 27, 2007, 09:07:18 AM by AB.Trini »

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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF, J.W. and ah List
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2007, 08:10:53 AM »
A.B.Trini. Of late I haven't taken much to the slant of your posts but these I must admit were very creative. The one about the attitude of Jackula to the 3 varieties of coaches and their reaction to him is spot-on true. Well done. Yuh putting yuh talents to good use. Ah go call it as I see it, so respec'
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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF, J.W. and ah List
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2007, 08:46:54 AM »
dreamer...why do you think those scenarios are spot on? What are the facts that you used to even draw a reasonable guess? Sure we know Wim has chosen to go ahead with what he has available. But noone really knows why. Perhaps he believes that the people of T&T need to be represented at all times, no matter what nonsense is going on and he has decided to make that sacrifice, as a former national team player himself with Holland. Maybe he enjoys the challenge. Or perhaps it's just pure inexperience. But we don't know and really shouldn't pretend to. And to guess that Beenie would have done any differently is maybe far fetched as well. Sure he may have. BUt since I have no examples of him standing up to any Federation's injustice, I have a hard time seeing what basis you have for such a conclusion. Afterall, when Beenie first joined T&T, he may have seen the T&T job as extremely important to re-igniting his reputation as a top notch coach and he might not have done anything differently from Wim..who knows? Sometimes an experienced coach will put up with more folly than an inexperienced one, because he has seen it all before and even expects it when he walks into a job like the T&T national team. maybe his experience gives him more patience, or cunning and he knows better how to navigate shark infested waters. What if Beenie is actually advising Wim. Maybe Wim is doing exactly what Beenie is telling him he should do...who knows

What is the point of this post? Noone knows anything for sure and for anyone to believe any scenario is spot on either (a) you have some serious inside info or (b) you engaging in the great Trini pastime of mistaking rank speculation with informed opinion

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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF, J.W. and ah List
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2007, 08:58:41 AM »
Filho,
With all due respect, no one knows a 100% what is really happening behind close doors and in the open. There is an apparent lack of disclosure and the 'facts'  have never been publicized.

However if people continue to speculate based on the media publication or alleged  inside information, then certain  scenarios could be  formed. I am simply illustrating a creative and satirical commentary on the happenings as I see it. From seriousness  to laughter. Satire whether be in  a 'play ' or in calypso serves to generate  commentary on the issue.You don't have to agree nor respond.

It's my humble take.

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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2007, 09:09:04 AM »
Filho,
With all due respect, no one knows a 100% what is really happening behind close doors and in the open. There is an apparent lack of disclosure and the 'facts'  have never been publicized.

However if people continue to speculate based on the media publication or alleged  inside information, then certain  scenarios could be  formed. I am simply illustrating a creative and satirical commentary on the happenings as I see it. From seriousness  to laughter. Satire whether be in  a 'play ' or in calypso serves to generate  commentary on the issue.You don't have to agree nor respond.

It's my humble take.

Scene..I see where you coming from  :beermug:
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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF, J.W. and ah List
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2007, 09:25:19 AM »
Filho, did I ever mention ah fine yuh does talk a lot of sense ? If I have, allow me to say it again.

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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF, J.W. and ah List
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2007, 09:33:31 AM »
Ok so allyuh remember the xmas song 'Santa coming to Town' ok here is the modified version:


Jack Claus is living in  TNT

You better watch out
You better not cry
You better not pout
I'm telling you why
Jack Claus is living in Trinidad
 
He's made his  list,
He’s checked it twice;
Gonna find out all  who's naughty or nice.
Jack Claus is living in Trinidad
 

He sees you when you're playing
He knows when you're with him
He knows if you've been bad or good
So  kiss his ass for goodness sake

With his UNC clan and FIFA’s plans
jump and wave jump and wave in the land
Jack Claus is living in Trinidad
 

 He sees you when you're playing
He knows when you're with him
He knows if you've been bad or good
So  kiss his ass for goodness sake

You better watch out
You better not cry
You better not pout
I'm telling you why
Jack Claus is living in Trinidad
Jack Claus is living in Trinidad
Jack Claus is living in Trinidad
Jack Claus is living in Trinidad

(Living in Trinidad)
Jack’s a busy man he has no time to play
He's got millions of dollars to fill his coffers each day
(Jack Claus is living in Trinidad)
(Jack Claus is living in Trinidad)
(Looks like Jack Claus is here to stay)


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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF , J.W. and ah List
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2007, 03:44:43 PM »
Once upon a time in a land very far away (not Nania), there was a king of football.This king (pimp)
 ruled the empire with a firm grip... he did not let the nobles in his kingdom (TTFF) to be opened to anyone but his noble men (whores).

One day he sanctioned his noble men to blacklist  his 'fiercest warriors'  as they opposed his ruling and wanted what was  promised to them. The King spend time in his parlor counting up his money. He allowed none to overrule his edicts. Even if this meant suffering all over the land.......

As the king prepared for battle he resorted to finding peasant folks to do his deeds while his Warriors fled the  land and abandoned his calling.......

crix crack the story ends WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL BECOME OF  of the king , his noble men or the mighty warriors.
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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF , J.W. and ah List
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2007, 08:42:14 PM »
mY PREDICTION: ONE DAY THE KING WILL BE OVERTHROWN; HIS NOBLEMEN REDUCED TO SHAMBLES AND THE MIGHTY WARRIORS WILL ONCE MORE REPRESENT THE LAND.

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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2007, 06:14:57 AM »
More bizarre tales from TNT.

So ah heard one politician allegedly said that 'he would sleep with the devil to attain political power'; he partner must have  met with ah serious 'obeah man' to have that kinda control over TTFF and TNT football.

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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF , J.W. and ah List
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2007, 07:13:23 AM »
 Upon Wim's return  to POS

WIM: "Mr. JW. I did my best ; I kept my mouth close about the federation and the players  performed as expected. Do I get my bonus from the savings we get by taking a low budget team?

J.W. ' Welll well Wim,  that was not a low budget team; that was an experimental squad. We had that planned right in yuh contract; Read the fine print."


Wim : Mr. J.W, you mean that was the plan from the start? I was suppose to work with the pro league and develop player skills, and all?

J.W.: Wim  ent we giving yuh a chance tuh be an international head coach? yuh think Canada would hire you or the U.S? so look nah keep things on the low side and keep doing what yuh doing.

Wim: Jack, what about  a little change for me to fly back to Holland for a holiday like you gave Beenie??

J.W.: Steupsssss yuh think yuh  ah big time coach like Beenie? Look Wim take what yuh get or leave; just keep yuh mouth close and  carry on.

Wim : Fu ..k you I am off to Jamacia.


Moral: Be prepared for the unexpected

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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF , J.W. and ah List
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2007, 07:35:29 AM »
i dont think jack would ever have d balls to play tht game on bennie, becuase he would be gone by now.
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2007, 03:09:36 PM »
Allyuh eh see that the chronology of these events of the past week is recorded in the annuls of the TTFF. It is almost predictable that our ability to have a sustainable program and a concerted build up to 2010 is still on tenable  grounds.

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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF , J.W. and ah List
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2009, 08:56:34 PM »
Look nah we still at the same place in history...... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF , J.W. and ah List
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2009, 10:56:32 PM »
stewps

now who de ass gave ab.trini ah redbull?
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since ah born or at least circa Copa Caribe

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Re: The tale of three coaches, the TTFF , J.W. and ah List
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2015, 05:49:44 AM »
And. The beat goes on
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2015, 09:29:53 AM »

Ah feeling for our present day coach-one of our own who has proven to have what it takes to get the most from the situation. Now faced with a rash of injuries to key players at this crucial time of preparations - Iwonder what's port he is getting ?meanwhile Jamacia men's team playing dey ball ancho.ding they own.

We football in tatters and  is not like when we had an inexperience Shabbazz or Latas at the helm - we have ah bonfire coach and yet the powers to be continuing to ' jumbieing' we football. Just when Mr.Harthad us on a role of winning Carribean Cup then the chuppidness start for Gold Cup playoffs-
 I doh pay credence intne jumbie talk but is likeahblight take over we football since the SA vacate- like someone making sure that we EH go ever reach the heights of 2006 again!
We need a cleansing from the top down- in the middle of all this- I believe that this coach Hart could get these players to rally around him and each other and they will rise in spite of the tata
GodBless our nation

 

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