Winter World Cup

[OutsideMan]

And who getting to play as the host? A unified team? Go never happen

Japan and South Korea did it for the 2002 World Cup...so why would co-hosting be a problem in the Caribbean?  Especially since the Caribbean already has experience co-hosting big tournaments in he past. 

[OutsideMan]

As Rodney mentioned, I see the issue being that Qatars bid is null and void if the WC moves to Winter. Biders were given a very strict bidding guideline including infrastructure, travel, venues accomodation etc. Every bid was based on a Summer WC. I am positive that if Qatars was based on a Winter WC, even with corruption and bribery, they would not have won. Politically, it wouldn't have been popular. Blatter has circumvented the bidding process to get his own way.

I fully expect WC boycotts from the major European leagues. It's possible that USA and Australia would support this in order to get rid of Blatter.

It will be the worse WC of modern times. Give it to Australia!! At least they have a buoyant professional league which will greatly improve if they held a WC, and isn't that the point?

Well, isn't it WINTER in Australia in June, July, August?  It might actually be too FRIGID if it's given to Australia...if it's given to them, we'll then have people complaining about the fact that it's going to be too damn cold in Australia if it's held in July.

Too HOT in Qatar in June...too COLD in Australia in June.   A no-win situation. 

[Zeppo]

Well, isn't it WINTER in Australia in June, July, August?  It might actually be too FRIGID if it's given to Australia...if it's given to them, we'll then have people complaining about the fact that it's going to be too damn cold in Australia if it's held in July.

Too HOT in Qatar in June...too COLD in Australia in June.   A no-win situation. 

Too cold? In Australia?

Certainly no colder than the last WC in South Africa.

[OutsideMan]

Well, isn't it WINTER in Australia in June, July, August?  It might actually be too FRIGID if it's given to Australia...if it's given to them, we'll then have people complaining about the fact that it's going to be too damn cold in Australia if it's held in July.

Too HOT in Qatar in June...too COLD in Australia in June.   A no-win situation. 

Too cold? In Australia?

Certainly no colder than the last WC in South Africa.

Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere --- it's actually winter there in June, July, and August.  (They even get snow-storms in during those months).

When it's Summer here in the Northern Hemisphere, it's the opposite in the Southern Hemisphere....and vice-versa.

[Zeppo]

Well, isn't it WINTER in Australia in June, July, August?  It might actually be too FRIGID if it's given to Australia...if it's given to them, we'll then have people complaining about the fact that it's going to be too damn cold in Australia if it's held in July.

Too HOT in Qatar in June...too COLD in Australia in June.   A no-win situation. 

Too cold? In Australia?

Certainly no colder than the last WC in South Africa.

Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere --- it's actually winter there in June, July, and August.  (They even get snow-storms in during those months).

When it's Summer here in the Northern Hemisphere, it's the opposite in the Southern Hemisphere....and vice-versa.

Yes, I know how the seasons work in the Southern Hemisphere, which is where the last World Cup happened to be held. Remember that one?

And you should do some research on just how often it snows in the Australian cities that would be hosting the event.

[OutsideMan]

Well, isn't it WINTER in Australia in June, July, August?  It might actually be too FRIGID if it's given to Australia...if it's given to them, we'll then have people complaining about the fact that it's going to be too damn cold in Australia if it's held in July.

Too HOT in Qatar in June...too COLD in Australia in June.   A no-win situation. 

Too cold? In Australia?

Certainly no colder than the last WC in South Africa.

Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere --- it's actually winter there in June, July, and August.  (They even get snow-storms in during those months).

When it's Summer here in the Northern Hemisphere, it's the opposite in the Southern Hemisphere....and vice-versa.

Yes, I know how the seasons work in the Southern Hemisphere, which is where the last World Cup happened to be held. Remember that one?

And you should do some research on just how often it snows in the Australian cities that would be hosting the event.

Wow...the sarcasm and Trini hot temper coming out already...lol. 

Dude, I've been there before, but I'm not looking to do 'research' right now on the topic --- it's not exactly an important thing on my to-do list.  They get snow-storms, but mostly in the higher elevations. 

Regardless, I was simply showing the irony of people complaining about the heat of Qatar in the summertime, and the fact that the same complainers might want to complain about the cold in Australia if the World Cup were to be changed to Australia.

It was meant primarily to be a light-hearted tongue-in-cheek comment and nothing more.  Some of you guys are too serious up in here.   

[lefty]

Well, isn't it WINTER in Australia in June, July, August?  It might actually be too FRIGID if it's given to Australia...if it's given to them, we'll then have people complaining about the fact that it's going to be too damn cold in Australia if it's held in July.

Too HOT in Qatar in June...too COLD in Australia in June.   A no-win situation. 

Too cold? In Australia?

Certainly no colder than the last WC in South Africa.

Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere --- it's actually winter there in June, July, and August.  (They even get snow-storms in during those months).

When it's Summer here in the Northern Hemisphere, it's the opposite in the Southern Hemisphere....and vice-versa.

Yes, I know how the seasons work in the Southern Hemisphere, which is where the last World Cup happened to be held. Remember that one?

And you should do some research on just how often it snows in the Australian cities that would be hosting the event.

Wow...the sarcasm and Trini hot temper coming out already...lol. 

Dude, I've been there before, but I'm not looking to do 'research' right now on the topic --- it's not exactly an important thing on my to-do list.  They get snow-storms, but mostly in the higher elevations. 

Regardless, I was simply showing the irony of people complaining about the heat of Qatar in the summertime, and the fact that the same complainers might want to complain about the cold in Australia if the World Cup were to be changed to Australia.

It was meant primarily to be a light-hearted tongue-in-cheek comment and nothing more.  Some of you guys are too serious up in here.   

zeppo not trini, atleast ah doh tink so, he's ah uncle Sam troll, yuh does loss dem real easy wit highfalutin ting like sarcasm  

[OutsideMan]

Well, isn't it WINTER in Australia in June, July, August?  It might actually be too FRIGID if it's given to Australia...if it's given to them, we'll then have people complaining about the fact that it's going to be too damn cold in Australia if it's held in July.

Too HOT in Qatar in June...too COLD in Australia in June.   A no-win situation. 

Too cold? In Australia?

Certainly no colder than the last WC in South Africa.

Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere --- it's actually winter there in June, July, and August.  (They even get snow-storms in during those months).

When it's Summer here in the Northern Hemisphere, it's the opposite in the Southern Hemisphere....and vice-versa.

Yes, I know how the seasons work in the Southern Hemisphere, which is where the last World Cup happened to be held. Remember that one?

And you should do some research on just how often it snows in the Australian cities that would be hosting the event.

Wow...the sarcasm and Trini hot temper coming out already...lol. 

Dude, I've been there before, but I'm not looking to do 'research' right now on the topic --- it's not exactly an important thing on my to-do list.  They get snow-storms, but mostly in the higher elevations. 

Regardless, I was simply showing the irony of people complaining about the heat of Qatar in the summertime, and the fact that the same complainers might want to complain about the cold in Australia if the World Cup were to be changed to Australia.

It was meant primarily to be a light-hearted tongue-in-cheek comment and nothing more.  Some of you guys are too serious up in here.   

zeppo not trini, atleast ah doh tink so, he's ah uncle Sam troll, yuh does loss dem real easy wit highfalutin ting like sarcasm  

lefty --- Ah begininning to realize that...

[Zeppo]

Qatar feel the heat over 2022 World Cup as pressure builds from four different parties

Qatar are in danger of having the 2022 World Cup snatched from them as a result of a four-pronged attack on their right to stage the tournament.

Pressure from Europe’s football elite — including the Premier League — as well as the concerns of powerful American TV interests, Qatar’s beaten rival bidders for 2022 and anti-corruption investigators could scupper the project to stage the world’s biggest football tournament in the small but oil-rich desert state.

It is virtually certain that football’s world governing body, FIFA, will announce early next month that the 2022 tournament cannot be staged in Qatar in the summer — as originally envisaged when the World Cup was awarded to the emirate three years ago — because of the dangerously high temperatures, which can reach 40 degrees centigrade.

(continue)

[Zeppo]

Revealed: Qatar's World Cup 'slaves'

Dozens of Nepalese migrant labourers have died in Qatar in recent weeks and thousands more are enduring appalling labour abuses, a Guardian investigation has found, raising serious questions about Qatar's preparations to host the 2022 World Cup.

This summer, Nepalese workers died at a rate of almost one a day in Qatar, many of them young men who had sudden heart attacks. The investigation found evidence to suggest that thousands of Nepalese, who make up the single largest group of labourers in Qatar, face exploitation and abuses that amount to modern-day slavery, as defined by the International Labour Organisation, during a building binge paving the way for 2022.

(continue)

[Zeppo]

'Qatar could lose 2022 World Cup'

A high-ranking FIFA employee has been quoted as telling the Welt am Sonntag newspaper that taking the 2022 World Cup away from Qatar is a “serious option.”

The employee, who was not named by the paper, said the final meeting of FIFA's Executive Committee this year would be decisive in determining whether it can take place in the Gulf state, adding: “That would allow enough time for the tournament to be reassigned.”

(continue)

[weary1969]

'Qatar could lose 2022 World Cup'

A high-ranking FIFA employee has been quoted as telling the Welt am Sonntag newspaper that taking the 2022 World Cup away from Qatar is a “serious option.”

The employee, who was not named by the paper, said the final meeting of FIFA's Executive Committee this year would be decisive in determining whether it can take place in the Gulf state, adding: “That would allow enough time for the tournament to be reassigned.”

(continue)

Enough already just change d venue or hush.

[Zeppo]

Qatar World Cup toll: ‘Hundreds’ of Indian migrant workers dead in two years

More than 450 Indian migrant workers in Qatar have died in the last two years, media revealed on Monday. Another upcoming report will show that 400 Nepalese have lost their lives scrambling to get the Gulf state ready for the 2022 World cup.

At least 237 Indian migrants lost their lives in Qatar in 2012 and another 218 in 2013 up to December 5, AFP reported on Monday, citing figures received via a Right to Information request filed at the Indian embassy in Qatar.

(continue)

[Zeppo]

And another part of the bid that Qatar fails to deliver on:

Qatar scales back 2022 plans, will host event in eight stadiums

[Zeppo]

14 reasons why the Qatar World Cup is going to be a disaster

The decision to award Qatar the 2022 World Cup was met with widespread skepticism.

Qatar's lack of infrastructure and soccer tradition, combined with questions about country's human rights record and bribery allegations, made it the most controversial World Cup host nation ever.

Nearly four years later, as the 2022 World Cup fast approaches, those initial questions haven't been answered. In fact, things seems to be getting worse.

(continue)

[elan]

Zeppo give it up, the US is not getting the WC.

[weary1969]

Zeppo give it up, the US is not getting the WC.

LOL

[Zeppo]

Blatter: awarding 2022 World Cup to Qatar was a mistake

Sepp Blatter has admitted it was "a mistake" to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar because of the extreme heat players will face in the Gulf state.

Speaking to Swiss channel RTS, the Fifa president said: "Of course, it was a mistake. You know, one makes a lot of mistakes in life.

"The technical report indicated clearly that it was too hot in summer, but despite that the executive committee decided with quite a big majority that the tournament would be in Qatar."

(continue)

[elan]

FIFA’s Sepp Blatter says awarding 2022 World Cup to Qatar was ‘a mistake’


FIFA President Sepp Blatter is finally admitting what the rest of the soccer world has known ever since the announcement was made in December 2010: Awarding the 2022 World Cup to Qatar was a terrible idea.
Blatter also said that the tournament would likely have to be held in the winter because of the 100-degree-plus summer temperatures in the Middle Eastern nation.

Here’s Reuters:
“Of course, it was a mistake. You know, one comes across a lot of mistakes in life,” he told Swiss television station RTS in an interview.
“The Qatar technical report indicated clearly that it is too hot in summer, but the executive committee with quite a big majority decided all the same that the tournament would be in Qatar,” he added.
Asked whether the World Cup was likely to be held in the European winter, the 78-year-old replied: “It’s probable, yes. In fact, it’s more than probable.”

The soccer world howled when Qatar was awarded the sport’s marquee event over a bid from the United States, decrying the climate and the lack of any sort of soccer culture and suspecting that the decision was not entirely on the level. FIFA began an investigation over the voting procedure for both the 2022 World Cup and the 2018 event, which was awarded to Russia.

“I will never say [Qatar] bought the World Cup,” Blatter told RTS, then hinting that France and German had a role in the matter.
“We know full well that big French and German companies work in Qatar, but they don’t just work for the World Cup. The World Cup is only a small part of what is going on in Qatar,” Blatter said.

[Zeppo]

Qatar World Cup: '£3m payments to officials' corruption claim

Fifa is facing fresh allegations of corruption over its controversial decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar.

The Sunday Times  has obtained millions of secret documents - emails, letters and bank transfers - which it alleges are proof that the disgraced Qatari football official Mohamed Bin Hammam made payments totalling US$5m (£3m) to football officials in return for their support for the Qatar bid.

Qatar 2022 and Bin Hammam have always strenuously denied the former Fifa vice-president actively lobbied on their behalf in the run-up to the vote in December 2010.

(continue)

[Flex]

FIFA approves winter World Cup for Qatar in 2022, sets final for Dec. 18
Soccernet.com

FIFA's executive committee has decided that the 2022 World Cup final will be held on Dec. 18, world football's organizing body confirmed on Thursday.

The climax of the winter World Cup will take place a week before Christmas. The final, set for a Sunday, is also Qatar's National Day, a celebration of independence.

The 2022 World Cup is to be played in the winter to avoid the fierce heat of June and July, and it will be a shortened tournament over 28 days instead of the usual 32.

UEFA had pushed for the final to be as late as Dec. 23, but that option attracted opposition from FIFA members who feared it would cause problems for fans and players getting home in time for Christmas, as well as affecting club football's festive programme.

The Dec. 18 decision will allow traditional Boxing Day club matches to take place in England.

UEFA president Michel Platini said the decision was acceptable -- but warned that FIFA must now re-arrange the calendar to protect up to four international dates that might be affected.

"Dec. 18 is a good date for the final -- perhaps Dec. 23 would be too late if you are trying to get all the fans back on Dec. 24," Platini told Press Association Sport. "Dec. 18 is fine for UEFA -- we can accommodate any changes to the Champions League.

"But FIFA must now protect the international dates for the national associations -- there are four international matches that could be affected and those are the lifeblood for the national associations.

"FIFA must look at the international calendar and make sure those dates are protected for the national associations."

A FIFA task force last month recommended that the 2022 tournament should take place in November and December.

The task force, led by Sheikh Salman bin Ebrahim Al-Khalifa, ruled out the possibility of playing the tournament in May and said a clash with the Winter Olympics, held in January, would be undesirable.

May had been the preferred option for European leagues, but Sheikh Salman stressed at the time: "All parties have to compromise -- not just the Europeans."

Hassan Al Thawadi, the head of the Qatar 2022 World Cup organising committee, had said the country was ready to host the event "at any point in time."

FIFA's director of communications Walter De Gregorio said: "The ExCo decided today that the World Cup as proposed by the task force will be played in November-December, with the final on the 18th of December.

"Based on the proposal of the task force, we're going to try to play in 28 days. That's the decision in principle. Now we have to see with the international match calendar how this might be possible."

He added: "This is for us, an important step. Finally, we know the end of the tournament. It's a Sunday and, by the way, it's the national day in Qatar, so it fits perfectly. You have enough time to do your Christmas shopping."

Meanwhile, FIFA's executive committee in Zurich has chosen France to host the 2019 Women's World Cup over South Korea.

[weary1969]

UEFA must be happy like pappy

[Zeppo]

Spanish football league becomes first to take legal action over Qatar World Cup dates

FIFA’s weather-related move of the 2022 World Cup from to November-December has its first legal challenge.

The Spanish league has filed an appeal against FIFA’s decision to switch the tournament’s dates due to searing summer temperatures in Qatar, saying the 8-week break midway through the season would cost the league close to $72 million.

(continue)

[royal]

With high temperate and humidity today men were falling like flies in extra time of both Gold Cup games.  won't like to think about what will happen in Qatar.

[Deeks]

With high temperate and humidity today men were falling like flies in extra time of both Gold Cup games.  won't like to think about what will happen in Qatar.

They may have  two 15 mins waterbreaks each half. That would be great for US advertisers

[Controversial]

With high temperate and humidity today men were falling like flies in extra time of both Gold Cup games.  won't like to think about what will happen in Qatar.

They may have  two 15 mins waterbreaks each half. That would be great for US advertisers

Won't help brother... Won't stop someone from getting heat stroke.. It's not safe for the players...