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Hand of Gold: Football and politics in Argentina
« on: August 20, 2009, 04:06:52 AM »
good thing FIFA doesnt allow politics and football to mix......unless of course they making coin off it:

From the economist:

BETWEEN them, Argentina’s president, Cristina Fernández, and her husband and predecessor, Néstor Kirchner, have nationalised their country’s post office, its airline and the private pension system. Now, it seems, it is the turn of football to come under the state’s aegis. This week the Argentine Football Association was poised to accept an offer of $154m from the state television channel for the rights to transmit this season’s matches. The association’s president, Julio Grondona, unilaterally ripped up a contract lasting until 2014 under which Torneos y Competencias (TyC), a private broadcaster and partner of the Clarín media group, paid $70m a year for the lion’s share of the broadcasting rights.

Nobody disputes that Argentine football is a mess. Many of the brightest Argentine stars play for much bigger salaries in Europe, so many clubs field teams made up of youths and veterans. Despite this transfer income, mismanagement and corruption mean that many of the clubs are shouldering big debts, including $8m in unpaid wages to players and $80m in taxes. That prompted Mr Grondona, who has ruled Argentine football with an iron hand for 30 years, to threaten to suspend indefinitely the new season’s kick-off, scheduled for August 14th.

The Kirchners fared poorly in a legislative election in June. Ms Fernández’s government lost its majority in the lower house of Congress, while Mr Kirchner was humiliated by coming second in the election for deputies in Buenos Aires province. Opponents claim that the new television deal was crafted personally by Mr Kirchner to restore his political fortunes.

First, he would be seen as the saviour of the season, as well as the man who put football on free-to-air television (though cable, on which TyC is available, is widespread in Argentina). Second he would strike a blow against the Clarín group, whose newspaper has been critical of him. TyC’s president claims that Mr Kirchner persuaded Mr Grondona to switch the contract at a late-night meeting, and says he will sue the association. Officials later denied that the meeting took place.

Football and politics have rarely been far apart in Argentina. When the World Cup was held there in 1978, the country’s then military junta is alleged to have arranged to bribe an opposing team to ensure Argentina’s progress and eventual victory. To curry public favour, the junta also stooped to abolishing relegation when popular teams were threatened with demotion to a lower league.

Mauricio Macri, the mayor of Buenos Aires, built his reputation by successfully running Boca Juniors, one of the capital’s two big clubs. Such jobs are hotly contested, despite the clubs’ poor financial state. Buenos Aires is plastered with posters for rival candidates in an election for the presidency of River Plate, Boca’s big rival. Whoever wins may now command a bigger pot of television money—courtesy of the taxpayer.
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Re: Hand of Gold: Football and politics in Argentina
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2016, 05:56:45 AM »
good thing FIFA doesnt allow politics and football to mix......unless of course they making coin off it:

From the economist:

BETWEEN them, Argentina’s president, Cristina Fernández, and her husband and predecessor, Néstor Kirchner, have nationalised their country’s post office, its airline and the private pension system. Now, it seems, it is the turn of football to come under the state’s aegis. This week the Argentine Football Association was poised to accept an offer of $154m from the state television channel for the rights to transmit this season’s matches. The association’s president, Julio Grondona, unilaterally ripped up a contract lasting until 2014 under which Torneos y Competencias (TyC), a private broadcaster and partner of the Clarín media group, paid $70m a year for the lion’s share of the broadcasting rights.

Nobody disputes that Argentine football is a mess. Many of the brightest Argentine stars play for much bigger salaries in Europe, so many clubs field teams made up of youths and veterans. Despite this transfer income, mismanagement and corruption mean that many of the clubs are shouldering big debts, including $8m in unpaid wages to players and $80m in taxes. That prompted Mr Grondona, who has ruled Argentine football with an iron hand for 30 years, to threaten to suspend indefinitely the new season’s kick-off, scheduled for August 14th.

The Kirchners fared poorly in a legislative election in June. Ms Fernández’s government lost its majority in the lower house of Congress, while Mr Kirchner was humiliated by coming second in the election for deputies in Buenos Aires province. Opponents claim that the new television deal was crafted personally by Mr Kirchner to restore his political fortunes.

First, he would be seen as the saviour of the season, as well as the man who put football on free-to-air television (though cable, on which TyC is available, is widespread in Argentina). Second he would strike a blow against the Clarín group, whose newspaper has been critical of him. TyC’s president claims that Mr Kirchner persuaded Mr Grondona to switch the contract at a late-night meeting, and says he will sue the association. Officials later denied that the meeting took place.

Football and politics have rarely been far apart in Argentina. When the World Cup was held there in 1978, the country’s then military junta is alleged to have arranged to bribe an opposing team to ensure Argentina’s progress and eventual victory. To curry public favour, the junta also stooped to abolishing relegation when popular teams were threatened with demotion to a lower league.

Mauricio Macri, the mayor of Buenos Aires, built his reputation by successfully running Boca Juniors, one of the capital’s two big clubs. Such jobs are hotly contested, despite the clubs’ poor financial state. Buenos Aires is plastered with posters for rival candidates in an election for the presidency of River Plate, Boca’s big rival. Whoever wins may now command a bigger pot of television money—courtesy of the taxpayer.


Now, Macri is President of Argentina ...at a time when Tevez laments a drop-off in Boca's youth teams. Watch de ride.
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Argentine soccer in chaos -- it goes from bad to worse
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 06:00:44 AM »
Argentine soccer in chaos -- it goes from bad to worse
By Paul Kennedy, Soccer America.


Last month, there was the threat that Argentina would pull out of the Copa Centenario. It didn't happen, and the Albiceleste went on to finish second at the tournament. But now there is the threat that Argentina will pull out of the men's soccer tournament at next month's Olympics. That threat is real -- put at 50 percent by the head of Argentina's Olympic committee -- and it has led to the resignation of national team coach Gerardo Martino.

The underlining problems are the same that caused Lionel Messi to say he intended to quit the national team and they have no immediate cure: the chaos surrounding the Argentine federation, under investigation by the Argentine government for fraud and under management by a FIFA-ordered stabilization committee.

Argentine soccer is paying a steep price for the years of dictatorial control by Julio Grondona and the void his death left. Efforts to name a successor ended in a hung verdict when the 75 voting members of the AFA voted 38-38 -- yes, 38-38 -- in the presidential election pitting interim president Luis Segura against Marcelo Tinelli, a TV host and San Lorenzo executive.

New elections were ordered for June, but the Argentine government stepped in and postponed the elections, ordering investigators to audit the AFA accounts related to the payment of TV broadcasting rights from the Argentine government of former president Cristina Kirchner. Segura, six other AFA officials and three Kirchner cabinet members were charged with fraud related to TV broadcasting rights.

Segura still managed to attend the Copa Centenario final in New Jersey, but FIFA stepped in and ordered a committee to take over the AFA. It also ordered new elections -- not later than June 30, 2017. That lack of clarity is at the heart of the latest mess -- Martino's resignation and that of his coaching staff.

"The national team's technical staff have decided to hand in their resignation on this day," the AFA said in a statement on Tuesday. "Due to uncertainty over the designation of new authorities in the Argentine soccer federation and the serious problems in putting together the team that will represent the country in the Olympic Games, the staff have chosen to resign."

The problems related to the Olympic team, which was supposed to begin training on Monday, stem from the fact that clubs are not required to release players for the Olympics, which is deemed an age-group competition. With the AFA in disarray, clubs are reluctant to step forward and hand their under-23 players over.

Things are so bad that Gerardo Werthein, the president of the Argentina Olympic Committee, said there was only a 50 percent chance Argentina would send a team to the Olympics. Argentina won Olympic gold in 2004 and -- with Messi -- in 2008, but the AFA has not made the Olympic team a priority.

"What is happening has everything to do with what is going on with AFA, an entity in which there is no one who can make decisions," Werthein told Radio Mitre. "They have not spoken with us in 20 months, they are completely silent about the Olympic team despite being two-time champions and they have done absolutely nothing to call up the players."

The 2005 Under-20 World Cup and 2008 Olympics are the only championships Messi has won with Argentina. In the last three years, it finished second in the World Cup, Copa America in Chile and now Copa Centenario.

Argentines have demonstrated in the streets for Messi to change his mind about quitting and return for one last run with the Albiceleste at the 2018 World Cup. There is first the matter of qualifying for the World Cup, which brings the national team back to the current crisis.

Qualifying is by no means a sure thing in the tough South American zone, and Argentina's next qualifier at home against Uruguay is on Sept. 1. That's less than two months from now.

In the meantime, La Albiceleste don't have Messi, the world's best player. It might be without his supporting cast of stars, who have all threatened to quit. And on top of that, it now doesn't have a coach.

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Re: Hand of Gold: Football and politics in Argentina
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 01:41:30 PM »
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Re: Hand of Gold: Football and politics in Argentina
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2016, 03:37:43 PM »
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Re: Hand of Gold: Football and politics in Argentina
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2016, 05:28:56 PM »
The unofficial "official" word is that Marcelo Bielsa will be the man at the helm of Argentina's WC qualifying effort ... hence he (perhaps conveniently?) pulled a fast one on Lazio, two days into the job.

The reason provided: I didn't get the signings I want." Supportable to a degree, but reminiscent of what he pulled in France.

From what I gather, Veron is the man with hiring power (regarding the next NT manager) at the AFA.

And, Maradona has placed a target on Veron's forehead. One-sided war of words so far. Veron has responded fairly diplomatically so far, but has said: say that to meh face nah.

Argentina! Not a dull moment.
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